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Re: Science and God - Does it mix ?
« Reply #75 on: 16/04/2004 06:01:11 »
Read part of my previous post and just wanted to say sorry if i seemed to come across a bit harshly there it wasn't supposed to.

Greg loved your double blind expirement bit... gave me a good old chuckle! maybe I'm misinterpretting what you're saying but I never said the shroud wasn't real, I have no doubt it is. That just got me thinking wouldn't it be really nasty if whoever discovered it said one day, ah sorry I was just pulling ya leg it's an old cloth I use to dry my dishes! What a prat but back to it. For saying these things out of kindness in an attempt to save my soul well thanks, maybe one day or as I lie on my death bed, providing I get that luxury, I might see the light and go ooh man was I ever wrong. Then again maybe you will ;) Actually probably wouldn't say I was wrong as I don't rule out the beliefs of others, just that I could have been more acurate if i had believed it this or that. There's something with that whole comfort thing that just doesn't seem to sit right with me... if christianity is what works for you and makes you comfortable aren't you almost saying your in the same situation as that devil fella?

Christainchick thank you but you don't have to apologise to me. If you walked up smacked me in the face and screamed burn in hell you dumb arse heathen it might be a different matter but you haven't done anything to me nor should you feel responsible for the actions of others. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Dont get me wrong this sort of thing can come from any religion..main focus here just seems to be christianity. The thing that really gets me is things like jihad. What sort of religion would encourage violence and intolerance, especially on such a large scale. I'd better not go down that track too far or I'll never get back to work. Maybe I should actually come here more often outside of working hours.

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« Reply #76 on: 19/04/2004 03:57:55 »
if christianity is what works for you and makes you comfortable aren't you almost saying your in the same situation as that devil fella?
       - a quote of Oldman (how old are you?)

Okay, read this closely, please, i have your answer.

Christianchick talked about fearing the lord is the key to wisdome...jesus wants us to "love...but be wise" So, fear...love..wisdome....what is the christian's thinking?

ill tell you

Comfort is like the cancer analogy...Cancer in nature is not good.
what is good?
Good is harmony, im an artist and i know a lot about color harmony and in music there is harmony so you dont get a headaic listening to annoying noise. So, what do we need harmony with? We need harmony with our creator, which makes it a good relationship. So when i say i believe in God for comfort, and then i say the devil rejected God out of comfort...what am i saying? am I saying that me and satan have similar desires? YES YES YES YES!!!! we both desire comfort!!! ding ding ding ding... me and satan both hate pain...its a shame he will spend eternity in hell, wish pain was comfertble! actually I dont wish pain was comfortable, and there is nothing wrong with comfort. its the most important thing to life, imagine life with NO, and i mean absolutly NO comfort. So, Satan went atray for comfort yes...but a cancerous kind. And when he sends his children to hell, here will be no comfort. so essentually he whent atray, his children...i.e.YOU, are astray, and its for comfort, but thats great, God created sex, so if you just got viagra old man and are bangin up a storm in adultry, i hope you enjoy it, comfort is great....but when you pay the penatly for your sins, and your soul no longer feels one speck of comfort, you will realize, comfort isnt the villian, your flesh is, and flesh wants comfort just as much as your soul. So its not that the devil is just the same as me, seekin comfort....no...its that the devil and you seek comfort of the mind....I seek something deeper, something that at first hurts, its not comfertable to know your a sinner who should be tormented, but when my spirit is comforted, that comfort the devil and his chidlren will spend eternity regretting.

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Re: Science and God - Does it mix ?
« Reply #77 on: 13/04/2004 18:35:30 »
I see it as being an unfinished bridge between logic and experience. Logically thinking there is no proof of God existing you cannot know it, ie according to the christian Bible.

However something cannot come from nothing, neither matter nor energy, that idea is science's and universally accepted by scientists. Within the universe are matter, energies, life (Kirlian life aura is much studied now, you can even buy your own camera...)Also there are the four dimensions and dark matter and the expected other dimensions are worth mentioning. There is more, there is the appearance of design in man and nature. Advanced functions and beauty. One function in man is the "hard wired belief in God".

I heard that scientist expected only simple life forms on other worlds. Some may disagree.

All that didn't mean much to me until I saw that I was in trouble, felt an ill conscience and thought I was about to die. I took my faith back to the forefront and did the thing called repentance. I thought God had rebuked me. In repentance I rejected all the known sin and had some kind of encounter with, I was sure, Jesus. It was as if He passed His hand thru my heart and cleaned it of in part or at least heaviness from an ill conscience. I was different inside, exuberent.

We would be like psychopaths without consciences. Imagine if we could clear them ourselves. The dictators would use that. I heard that Stalin tried stuff like that.

I was exuberent and had a memorable time. Forgiveness was excellent! New friends, self esteem... As I experienced difficulties and need for more of God I got my secret thoughts revealed. An aircraft design and lots of spiritual concerns. Private spiritual issues and questions answered by strangers near and far. Even a private prayer quoted exactly on TV in which the preacher quoted it before I invented it. My modification of that prayer again quoted word for word by another evangelist a little later.

So I have experienced God and the christian Old Testament is up to Him as to what it means. From logics side to experience it is, at least for me unfinished. God and science are about half mixed.

I think God revealed Himself to me and thru the Bible as well as in the other ways. The evils of the O.T. religion were because of fallen beings. Without that flood I would be a child of rape... Instead I am Noah's or I am here. Order is seemingly always good. There is unseen evil, deceiving spirits. Disorder is evil with diseases and wars... LOVE is good order, and light to the mind...

Ordinarily we use trust instead of knowing frequently.

I haven't heard of science proving mind powers or creating life.
So to me it is like an unfinished bridge, of spiritual experience across to logic and science, what about you?


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Re: Science and God - Does it mix ?
« Reply #78 on: 14/04/2004 19:29:51 »
Also we can really know God exists but then there is no more need for faith in His existence.

My spiritual experience side can also be likened to a cannon, blasting the science side. The Old Testament meaning is up to revelation from the same source, not logic.


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« Reply #79 on: 15/04/2004 00:14:23 »
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Originally posted by Titanscape

Order is seemingly always good. There is unseen evil, deceiving spirits. Disorder is evil with diseases and wars... LOVE is good order, and light to the mind...

Titanscape

Hmmmm...I see dis/order as less rigid.  "Good" combat can be orderly, but not neccesarily good.  Cancer cells have very good order, is this good?  Depends on your point of view.

Could you clarify what you mean by "good order" and "light to the mind"?  The terms seem a bit vague to be used to define love.
 

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« Reply #80 on: 15/04/2004 03:07:40 »
This is to ALL the people who say christians only believe in God for comfort. YES we do only believe in God for comfort. But, whats the comfort in changing your WHOLE life around to suffer through persecution, havent you heard of christians imprisioned and dying for their beliefs? comforting huh. Plus People who dont believe in God, they do that for the ULTIMATE comfort, the comfort that lead satan himself astray, the comfort of "doin ya own thang" the comfort of "rebel without a cause" the comfort of "i dont need anything but myself in this world" so, maybe I believe in God for comfort, this universe is huge and lifeless, and for the most part heartless, and evolution might be what you cling to, but i dont have half a brain, and i see a lot of logic in creation, plus havent you heard of miracles (my birth infact, really, was fortold 4 years before I was born) or the shroud of turin, ud have to be a half brained human to really believe the shroud of turin is fake. So, maybe i want comfort, but that comfort i wouldnt place for the world, or the worlds mindless ways to be comfortable in their own mindless way.

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« Reply #81 on: 15/04/2004 04:57:15 »
Essentially I have nothing wrong with christians and their religion. I think it is good they can find such strong faith and that it brings them happiness. What I can't stand is the narrow mindedness that I come across is so many of them. To suggest that people are half-wits because they don't have the same beliefs as you seems so ignorant to me that it is beyond comprehension. It is a matter of finding what feels right for yourself whether that is you are atheist, christian, jewish or don't classify your beliefs into any particular religion. It's like food what tastes good to me may make you feel sick, that isn't hard to accept so why do people have such a hard time accepting other peoples beliefs?

To say someone is half brained to not believe in the shroud of turin.. I'm sorry that makes no sense to me. Sure it exists but does that mean it is what people are telling you it is? They are stating that because it is what they want to believe. I have to ask why you need something as physical as that to backup your beliefs? Last time I checked faith was more based on what you can't see, touch etc.

I'm just going to steal something Mayo said not that long ago...
>I always have to laugh when people complain about being frustrated when trying to "argue" or "debate" issuses of faith. It is such an ignorant act on the part of both parties in the "agruement" if either had a brain they'd realize that by definition "faith" is something that you CAN'T debate, argue, or prove. If it was it wouldn't be called faith, we'd have to make up some other word for it. Or, even more scary..... it would be called science! But its not its faith. Its someting that you believe in without proof or even evidence. It is this defining property of faith that gives it so much power to those who have it, and causes so much confusion to those who don't. So the person that tells you taht they can prove to you what they believe in is being just as ignorant as the person who gets frustrated because the other person is not using logical agruements.
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Thought he made some good points. I could ramble all day but should get back to some work I guess.
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« Reply #82 on: 15/04/2004 05:46:33 »
well tim...I told you i believe in God for comfort...didnt I? I admit, i do. And when i say you would have to be half brained to not be believe the shroud is cuz its here...to be examined...to be researched...its visible...its tangible...its authentic...so i wasnt saying you would have to be half brained to be mean...its just that with a full brain, and the ability to look at evidence...its real. But faith...so elusive huh. Well, I believe that our brain has to halves...:) one which is intellectual, the other which is spiritual...and faith isnt about proof only cuz its the absense of our intellectual side...so its not proof vs no proof...your wrong..its the analytical side of our brains...the side that is held accountable to the ten commandments, and the spiritual side...the one that is heroic and capable of love. And what is love? its a gift...who gave it to us? God

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« Reply #83 on: 15/04/2004 05:54:24 »
what feels good to me huh...i guess everybody has their own tastes in food. you make a point there. but ya know, lets do a double blind expirement...give half partipants deadly anthrax, and the other half placebo...and ya know, we can see what works for some ppl, and ya know, what works for others...! !! ! remember what i said the devils problem was? he wanted comfort... comfort in what? Comfort in "whatever works for me..." which is "whatever makes...um..hphm...hmmm...COMFORTABLE!" So, im a nice good christian bible thumpin boy...and i love all people, but half a brain as bad as i may be, as rude as I may be, half a brain might seed you full brained into eternal torment and fire....so i say this out of kindness. really.

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« Reply #84 on: 15/04/2004 14:14:03 »
sorry mayofly, my computer messed up and i could never see my message

Hi senseless, i like your ideas

now, cannonboid, if christians do not like the idea of oblivion then why do we believe in hell?  in hell everyone is forsaken by God, God forgets about them others forget about them,and God says do not worry about being remembered after you die by others, but by God, in heaven your sins are forgotten,hmmm, actually christianity is very oblivious :)

next, what are all these evidences of evolution,the only ones i know of are a pile of bones manipulated by the human imagination, and a guy named Darwin who changed his mind at his deathbead, and i sincerely want to know where this evidence is

alright now, if our feelings are mearley chemical then those same chemicals by themselves can hate or love someone? sure

and you know God talks about people like you who fall away from grace if you want to know ask and i'll give yout the verses, if you don't care then i guess it doesn't matter

and oldman i don't consider non christians to be stupid i apologize if you have ever had that expressed to you,alot of my unbelieving friends are very intellegent, and a few are geniuses,but i will tell you that i do not consider them very wise because proverbs 1:7 says that fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, but i love them alot and pray for them every day, and i really want to apologize for anyone who was rude to you, its not proper christian behavior


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« Reply #85 on: 15/04/2004 17:21:38 »
quote:
Originally posted by Donnah

quote:
Originally posted by Titanscape

Order is seemingly always good. There is unseen evil, deceiving spirits. Disorder is evil with diseases and wars... LOVE is good order, and light to the mind...

Titanscape

Hmmmm...I see dis/order as less rigid.  "Good" combat can be orderly, but not neccesarily good.  Cancer cells have very good order, is this good?  Depends on your point of view.

Could you clarify what you mean by "good order" and "light to the mind"?  The terms seem a bit vague to be used to define love.

Well I have heard of "as diligent as the devil" a saying.

Cancer is disorder in the body, cells behaving wrong. I am talking about the created order, the pristine and things close to it. Also our just order, so an aeroplane once hijacked is not in good order any longer. But the work done becomes an orderly design and a capable vehicle on side with a hateful person with a dark conscience, a despot. Unlove, darkness, deceit is there. It becomes part of evil and creates chaos.

The christian God is by His apostle John is said to be "Light" and "Love" which are two separate concepts. Love is written on in 1Cor 13 in the N.T. His creation apart from Satan was without war or disease and lusts... Light is for the conscience and activates moral strengths... It drives out darkness and gives us sight of things. Satan is in chains of darkness. God loves even the people in hell, in the horrid darkness. Darkness is a state and spirit.

To be loved is part of God's good order and to love Him and others is good too, even tho below heaven it may mean for a few suffering and death because of satan. All loving people suffer. A compassionate person suffers not only for themselves but for others too.

Love and light source good order it is organized and extensive. But satan is jealous and wanted to steal it... If a lovely women is not loving and is in darkness she can use sex, a good thing from Light and Love for evil. As in Soviet spies of some time ago. And then also all the order of Grand old Germany was seized and used by the Nazis. Weapons of defence and medicines, universities, brilliant minds, the land...

Cancer cells have lost some of their order in the DNA. Radiation mutations or some carcinogens have damaged the molecules. When did disease and illness start?

Love in a family for eachother keeps good order I'd say. It builds confidence and little bodies and minds. Love in love out, and order in life. Whereas love for money sources evils like child prostitution and organ sales on the black market... As in the former Soviet union. Satan has his own order but since he lacks creativity perhaps it is just chaos.

Light and darkness fight. Satan is poor at creativity but otherwise brilliant!

How is that?


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« Reply #86 on: 15/04/2004 17:50:33 »
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Originally posted by christianchick

now, cannonboid, if christians do not like the idea of oblivion then why do we believe in hell?  in hell everyone is forsaken by God, God forgets about them others forget about them,and God says do not worry about being remembered after you die by others, but by God, in heaven your sins are forgotten,hmmm, actually christianity is very oblivious :)


God is love!! He is love, His dimensions and His nature are love. He never changes and so He is the same love for us all and the people in hell that He was on Calvary. He lays down His life for us all constantly. If there was anything more the people in hell needed so to come up, He would grant it to them, but their rejection of God is dynamic and satan holds them.

Our chemistry is for the expression of love in the physical realm. There is more to life than mere animation but spirit too. Consider Trekky style teleportation, at the other end would your body be animated? Your life is more than material. Kirlian science touches on that.


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« Reply #87 on: 16/04/2004 01:34:08 »
Well Titanscape, that's specific enough to give me a good view of your beliefs.  Thanks.
 

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« Reply #88 on: 16/04/2004 06:01:11 »
Read part of my previous post and just wanted to say sorry if i seemed to come across a bit harshly there it wasn't supposed to.

Greg loved your double blind expirement bit... gave me a good old chuckle! maybe I'm misinterpretting what you're saying but I never said the shroud wasn't real, I have no doubt it is. That just got me thinking wouldn't it be really nasty if whoever discovered it said one day, ah sorry I was just pulling ya leg it's an old cloth I use to dry my dishes! What a prat but back to it. For saying these things out of kindness in an attempt to save my soul well thanks, maybe one day or as I lie on my death bed, providing I get that luxury, I might see the light and go ooh man was I ever wrong. Then again maybe you will ;) Actually probably wouldn't say I was wrong as I don't rule out the beliefs of others, just that I could have been more acurate if i had believed it this or that. There's something with that whole comfort thing that just doesn't seem to sit right with me... if christianity is what works for you and makes you comfortable aren't you almost saying your in the same situation as that devil fella?

Christainchick thank you but you don't have to apologise to me. If you walked up smacked me in the face and screamed burn in hell you dumb arse heathen it might be a different matter but you haven't done anything to me nor should you feel responsible for the actions of others. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Dont get me wrong this sort of thing can come from any religion..main focus here just seems to be christianity. The thing that really gets me is things like jihad. What sort of religion would encourage violence and intolerance, especially on such a large scale. I'd better not go down that track too far or I'll never get back to work. Maybe I should actually come here more often outside of working hours.

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« Reply #89 on: 19/04/2004 03:57:55 »
if christianity is what works for you and makes you comfortable aren't you almost saying your in the same situation as that devil fella?
       - a quote of Oldman (how old are you?)

Okay, read this closely, please, i have your answer.

Christianchick talked about fearing the lord is the key to wisdome...jesus wants us to "love...but be wise" So, fear...love..wisdome....what is the christian's thinking?

ill tell you

Comfort is like the cancer analogy...Cancer in nature is not good.
what is good?
Good is harmony, im an artist and i know a lot about color harmony and in music there is harmony so you dont get a headaic listening to annoying noise. So, what do we need harmony with? We need harmony with our creator, which makes it a good relationship. So when i say i believe in God for comfort, and then i say the devil rejected God out of comfort...what am i saying? am I saying that me and satan have similar desires? YES YES YES YES!!!! we both desire comfort!!! ding ding ding ding... me and satan both hate pain...its a shame he will spend eternity in hell, wish pain was comfertble! actually I dont wish pain was comfortable, and there is nothing wrong with comfort. its the most important thing to life, imagine life with NO, and i mean absolutly NO comfort. So, Satan went atray for comfort yes...but a cancerous kind. And when he sends his children to hell, here will be no comfort. so essentually he whent atray, his children...i.e.YOU, are astray, and its for comfort, but thats great, God created sex, so if you just got viagra old man and are bangin up a storm in adultry, i hope you enjoy it, comfort is great....but when you pay the penatly for your sins, and your soul no longer feels one speck of comfort, you will realize, comfort isnt the villian, your flesh is, and flesh wants comfort just as much as your soul. So its not that the devil is just the same as me, seekin comfort....no...its that the devil and you seek comfort of the mind....I seek something deeper, something that at first hurts, its not comfertable to know your a sinner who should be tormented, but when my spirit is comforted, that comfort the devil and his chidlren will spend eternity regretting.

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« Reply #90 on: 20/04/2004 13:36:01 »
well, that is true senseless, the devil did leave God for comfort, but it was a false comfort, that is how sin works, you think it looks good but once you get involved you realize its not as much fun as you thought it was, and see its not that the devil enjoys what he is doing, it is that he keeps thinking that what he is GOING to do will make him happy, he has this dillusion that he can over power God yet he knows he must ask God for permission to do things....................
ok my point is that the devil does not find comfort in what he does, we focus to much on what is coming(penalties or pleasure) when the sin itself is death and suffering, and whatever he does have comfort in doing if-he has any-its only temporary...uh-oh i seem to have lost myself

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« Reply #91 on: 20/04/2004 21:49:32 »
I thought that Lucifer lusted for independant greatness on God's scale. He and the other rebels suffer pains of fear(of God)and conflict with holy angels and the knowledge of their destiny, altho they may think they can beat God.

My God says "I AM"... What do the deviants say?

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« Reply #92 on: 24/04/2004 21:07:48 »
THIS IS GOD. I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT I DO NOT EXIST. THE ATHEISTS ARE RIGHT ALL ALONG. SO THERE !!
 

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« Reply #93 on: 26/04/2004 15:55:00 »
Thank you, GOD, for clearing that up!

But, if you don't exist, who is posting to this site?

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« Reply #94 on: 26/04/2004 20:12:31 »
I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T EXIST TO ANSWER IT !!![}:)]:D

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« Reply #95 on: 27/04/2004 18:29:14 »
I think therefore I am, you post but you are...?

Deity or devi, demi-god or nymph?


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« Reply #96 on: 27/04/2004 19:13:42 »
I'm doing as i'm told... god (who doesnt actually exisr) has spoken...

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« Reply #97 on: 29/04/2004 18:57:47 »
Just think for a moment, where do astro-physicists say the universe comes from? They speak of the forming of dimensions... some of the big bang. Some novelists play with the idea of aliens from another dimension. What then of the idea that something cannot come from nowhere? But all the astro-physicists say there was simply something that was always there!

The christian God is named of Himself YAH or I AM. Not I WAS or I WILL BE. He describes Himself as being above time. Above the fourth dimension, which is linear like the first dimension of space. He is in the 'ever present' and reaches into our dimensions.

Why not then consider that an alien exists in that primordial place above time. And without time there can be no evolution merely existence without origin.

The idea of an ancient beach on earth where the amino acid rich mineral clay lay for thousands of years, wet, than for a quake to happen and the ground shift and then the sea washes over and washes away some clay revealing a fully formed man who then breathes... is extremely improbable. But probablity is not an issue with a being in the ever present since He would have created maths and probablity!

It is not improbable for Him to be there.

Sure alot of Hydrogen is simpler than a God but simplicity is not an issue. Looking at an ultimate origin before which there was nothing, that therefore always was, need not involve ideas of simplicity or probability but moreso creativity.

A great being forming in another dimension is not unlikely for 1:There is no formING, and 2: It is not a matter of likeliness, probablity or any such expectation.

You have a choice, Hydrogen from nowhere or eternal alien, which is your choice and why?

I go for YAH revealed in history with real viable historicity.

What do you say?


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Re: Science and God - Does it mix ?
« Reply #98 on: 29/04/2004 19:57:13 »
I've never heard such a load of coddswallop......this is a scientific forum...it's called the Naked Scientists...not the Naked Deities !!.....you are trying to rationalise through intellectual arguement and it's almost pathetic !!!!...I do not recognise your choice of Hydrogen or eternal Alien !!!..who are you to decide the definition of just two choices for a start ?......and I can see no viable historicity at all. And why should I have to consider that an alien exists in that primordial place above time ?...show me a burning bush !!..show me Noahs Ark !!..honestly...I have read some of your posts and you are clearly an educated academic....but... and I think I'm quite sure I speak for a lot (and most certainly the majority ) of people here that we are non believers, the bible is a great work of fiction and that is all it is.......this site is not for preaching.....I respect your right to believe in what you want but please...do it on a churchy site !!!  The bottom line is that you are so inherently filled with the belief that there has to be a supernatural being behind the creation of the universe that there is no compromise in your thought process whatsoever....why do you have this indelible mindset ?..Just tell us all WHY there has to be a creator..why why why ?

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Re: Science and God - Does it mix ?
« Reply #99 on: 29/04/2004 23:56:17 »
who are you to say the the majority of people in here do not believe in a higher power??!!  Has there ever been a poll done??  You assume just as much as titanscape, that just because we are interested in science we share your atheiestic views.  I (as a member of this forum, am offended by your assumption)  
If you don't want to hear about issues of spirituality, don't go into the thread TITLED "science and God, does it mix?" If I were offended by nudity, I wouldn't open a magazinde TITLED "Big wonderful Jugs"  Thats what TITLES are for!

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Re: Science and God - Does it mix ?
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