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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #25 on: 18/12/2006 22:38:23 »
I dont believe that the colour has anything to do with it, I assume the green breed you eat is a Granny Smith which are pretty much the most tart (tartest?) apples available on a widespread basis. However I find a Jonathan (red) apple to be very tart (almost comparable to the Granny Smith) and a Crispin or a Gala apple (both greeny in colour) to be very sweet.

Repeating, its a specific breed thing, probably due to the amount of pectin found in the type of apple (Jonathan have one of the highest concentrations, or so the sheet on apples at my gym says). Well enough of my rambling, I'm going to answer that the tartness of an apple, has little to do with colour and more to do with Pectin levels.

Oh and by the way, the only reason I know this stuff is cause the area that I grew up in is kinda famous for its orchards, and most of my friends growing up (well those with money) all had farms with orchards, so I've been growing/picking/eating/baking apples for a long while now. And my grandmother makes an excellent apple pie (her rule - only use spys [hint:spy rhymes with pie] as they dont get mushy and they retain their flavour when cooked.

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #26 on: 19/12/2006 20:25:50 »
Some green apples do seem very mild to me.
Most of them, apart from Granny Smith's of course, seem to be soft and powdery inside. The texture does not feel good when I bite into them.

I'd love to try one straight from a frosty tree !

 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #27 on: 19/12/2006 20:31:17 »
You have never had a apple off from a frost covered tree..... OH my goodness.. They crunch and are filled with sugar veins They are heavenly... My tree is a late october fruit! I pick them after the first frost.. sometimes the second.. They are wonderfull then. Cold crackling crisp and wonderfully sweet not tart at all!! YUMMMMMMMM!
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #28 on: 20/12/2006 01:29:25 »
Won't an apple from a frost cover tree be...a frozen apple ?

As a firm believer in empirical study I uprooted my Apple tree and took it to my supermarkets freezer section and whacked the beast in a pack of frozen peas and then picked an apple.

CONCLUSION: Nice Apple and a kick up the arse from security and a painful violation done to me with my tree !!..OUCH !!..Can't sit down !!!
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #29 on: 20/12/2006 03:45:06 »
You are such a dork!! LOL LOL First and second frosts usually are not that hard of a freeze.. The apples are delicios if you harvest them at that point!  I guess you won't be reaping the bounty of your labors this year... when you finally remove that trree from thr garage it was parked in you might consider a sunny bright spot for  replanting lovely Apple tree. Remember trees don't do well where the sun don't shine! LOL LOL
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #30 on: 20/12/2006 14:02:45 »
Joke:
A man enters a grocery and ask
"I would like two apples"
"Red or green?"
"Doesn't matter, 'cause I take the skin of them off!"
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #31 on: 20/12/2006 16:25:59 »
Joke:
A man enters a grocery and ask
"I would like two apples"
"Red or green?"
"Doesn't matter, 'cause I take the skin of them off!"

LOL...Hugs the Lightarrow !!
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #32 on: 21/12/2006 05:15:27 »
THats pretty good!! Have not heard that one before!
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #33 on: 21/12/2006 06:29:09 »
Pretty funny Alberto!  ;-) 
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #34 on: 21/12/2006 06:59:15 »
Was cute Huh!
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #35 on: 21/12/2006 07:12:35 »
Yes and so is the person who shared it with us...hehe
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #36 on: 21/12/2006 07:28:16 »
Yes I remember..LOL LOL I miss you LOretta! Have you eaten your apple today!
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #37 on: 21/12/2006 17:08:08 »
Yes and so is the person who shared it with us...hehe

Alberto is certainly a cutie !!...YAYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #38 on: 22/12/2006 02:48:18 »
YES he is, and Miss Loretta is a cutie too! They be cute together!!!
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #39 on: 22/12/2006 04:41:46 »
Alas, he is in Italy and I am in Texas...our arms won't reach that far...sniff, sniff...LOL
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #40 on: 22/12/2006 05:15:37 »
Your Arms don't need to as long as your heart does and it can....THERE THERE HONEY NO TEARS... ELSE YOU WILL MAKE ME CRY!!! LOL...
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #41 on: 22/12/2006 07:40:50 »
Won't an apple from a frost cover tree be...a frozen apple ?
Well, I think there is a similar practise in winemaking, well known in Germany.  Some white grapes are left on the branches, and picked only after the first frost.  Apparently this gives an extra sugar content, but has a positive effect on other flavours too of the wine.  The name they give it in German is "Eiswein".
For more details, check the article on "ice wine" in the English version of Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_wine
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #42 on: 22/12/2006 09:55:00 »
Its certainly the truth with my apples. They get these marbled like sugar trails that are actually visible after picking after 1rst or 2nd frost.. I judge by apple size if I wait to pick.. not to long as you don't want them on too long!
« Last Edit: 22/12/2006 16:40:22 by Karen W. »
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #43 on: 22/12/2006 12:41:55 »
not to long as you don't want them on too long!
And because the freezing damages the cells, they become very liable to rot !
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #44 on: 22/12/2006 16:39:38 »
Won't an apple from a frost cover tree be...a frozen apple ?
Well, I think there is a similar practise in winemaking, well known in Germany.  Some white grapes are left on the branches, and picked only after the first frost.  Apparently this gives an extra sugar content, but has a positive effect on other flavours too of the wine.  The name they give it in German is "Eiswein".
For more details, check the article on "ice wine" in the English version of Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_wine


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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #45 on: 22/12/2006 17:20:46 »
Alas, he is in Italy and I am in Texas...our arms won't reach that far...sniff, sniff...LOL
...but our souls can, they have no boundaries...
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #46 on: 22/12/2006 17:26:19 »
Alas, he is in Italy and I am in Texas...our arms won't reach that far...sniff, sniff...LOL
...but our souls can, they have no boundaries...


I agree totally ' Arse Holes ' know no boundaries.. ;).OH..sorry !!!! ..OUR SOULS !!!... DOH !!!


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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #47 on: 22/12/2006 17:34:17 »
Alas, he is in Italy and I am in Texas...our arms won't reach that far...sniff, sniff...LOL
...but our souls can, they have no boundaries...


I agree totally ' Arse Holes ' know no boundaries...
Freudian Lapsus? ;)
Hugs to you too Neil.
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #48 on: 22/12/2006 17:35:30 »
YES he is, and Miss Loretta is a cutie too! They be cute together!!!
...professional Cupid, isnt'it?
 

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Re: Why are Green Apples Crunchier Than Red Ones ! ?
« Reply #49 on: 22/12/2006 18:00:46 »
YES, ALBERTO INDEEDY!!  Merry Christmas all!! CUPID BETTER GO BEFORE SHE GETS IN TROUBLE!!!! LOL AND I AGREE THE SOULS HAVE NO BOUDRIES AND NEITHER DO THE HEARTS!! LOVE YOU GUYS!!!
 

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