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« on: 04/02/2007 18:06:01 »
Did you know that the word luff was actually another word for auxillery oar??


 

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« Reply #1 on: 04/02/2007 18:20:24 »
Did you know that the word luff was actually another word for auxillery oar??

No...really ?..I had no idea...I thought I invented it !!..*le sigh et le sulk*...how did ewe know that ?
 

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« Reply #2 on: 04/02/2007 18:27:58 »
I was looking up a word and saw it there.. I was shocked and then tried to apply the meaning to some of your posts and laughed my tail feathers off...LOL
« Last Edit: 04/02/2007 21:14:51 by Karen W. »
 

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« Reply #3 on: 05/02/2007 03:56:14 »
Luff...listen here! This is your word and it has your meaning!  They stole it from you!  Sue them!  Hire an attorney and become rich...we have it in so many posts...I bet whoever wrote that definition has not used it as much as ewe!  LOL
 

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« Reply #4 on: 05/02/2007 04:00:22 »
LOL I agree It's Neils word! Ha has the rights possession is 9/10 of the law and I say he possesses LUFF!!!
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« Reply #5 on: 05/02/2007 04:20:21 »
LOL  amen sista!
 

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« Reply #6 on: 05/02/2007 04:23:38 »
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!

If me sues them and wins....think of all the Pradas I'll be able to buy...YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!!

I might even lend ewe a pair LO !! *cheeky giggles*


Thank you for the support Lo and Karen !!..YAYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!
 

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« Reply #7 on: 05/02/2007 04:36:31 »
Yes, or you could be kind enough and hand me mine now for extra good measure and you might win...I will testify for you...Me, a material witness...awwww yes...I see new pradas in my future!  LOL
 

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« Reply #8 on: 05/02/2007 05:16:55 »
MIght be hard to tip the scales toward the pradas, he luffs the word luff!!! He may not give up either one.. drats.. But I'll take a rather cute pair of leopard print low heeled pumps when he wins... YIPPPEEEEEE!
 

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« Reply #9 on: 05/02/2007 06:01:17 »
LOL  no doubt
 

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« Reply #10 on: 05/02/2007 10:11:41 »
 I Know just the ones...LOL I do believe they were approximately $400.00 LOL
 

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« Reply #11 on: 03/03/2007 13:10:40 »
ALright Neily have you filed in court yet and won!!! Me wants those leopard pumps, and LO needs a new pair of pradas since her's are so firmly attached to sheepy's hooves! LOL LOL
 

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« Reply #12 on: 06/03/2007 20:46:03 »
Yes i do...lol
 

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« Reply #13 on: 06/03/2007 22:32:24 »
Did you know that the word luff was actually another word for auxillery oar??

News to me - I always thought it was part of a sail - and the only meaning of the word I can find refers to the leading edge of a sail (although a related meaning also seems to refer to the manouvering of a boat, to 'luff up' being to travel upwind).

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(to creep around an obstacle or to deliberately luff up (push upwind) a weather side vessel, which might otherwise take the wind out of your sails as she overtook and masked you from the wind). The luff is the front edge of a sail, the first part of a sail which meets the wind. Loef  is a Dutch word meaning windward. A-luff (or aloof) describes a vessel which may be sailing close hauled (sails choke-a-block) along a lee shore

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luff Pronunciation (lf)
n.
1.
a. The act of sailing closer into the wind.
b. The forward side of a fore-and-aft sail.
2.Archaic The fullest part of the bow of a ship.
v. luffed, luff·ing, luffs

v.intr.
    1. To steer a sailing vessel closer into the wind, especially with the sails flapping.
    2. To flap while losing wind. Used of a sail.

v.tr.
    1. To sail (a vessel, such as a yacht) closer into the wind during a race so as to prevent an opponent's craft from passing on the windward side.
    2. To raise or lower (the boom of a crane or derrick).
 

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« Reply #14 on: 07/03/2007 00:48:07 »
Awwww, I am so amazed with this man and his knowledge.....
 

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« Reply #15 on: 07/03/2007 02:46:54 »
Mine was websters fine dictionary New world edition of the American Language.  ssecond college edition, Simon and Shuster I recieved it new in 1986 for Christmas, but the last copyright was 1984.. Funny huh!
 

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« Reply #16 on: 07/03/2007 02:52:08 »
The weather side of a ship, The auxillary oar for steering,akin to palm of the hand,IE base *lep-,*lop-,flat object, flat hand, rudder blade.

George's meanings are also listed further into the list of meanings LOL!!
 

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« Reply #17 on: 07/03/2007 03:42:43 »
OK, if we are going to get serious about this, I have armed myself with both Eric Partidge's Origins, and the Chambers Dictionary of Etymology.

Neither are willing to speculate on PIE origins, or anything before about the 13th century.

Origins does suggest an Old French word 'lof' that pertains to a steering device (it does not refer particularly to an oar).

Chambers suggests that before 1200 a 'lof' was probably a spar holding down and out the windward edge of a square sail, but it may have derived from an earlier French word that originally may have been an oar.

Chambers also refers to a Middle Dutch cognate 'loef' that refers to the side of the ship facing the wind, and a Middle Low German word 'lof' (there should be an umlaut over the 'o', which is then equivalent to the Dutch 'oe') which has a similar meaning.

There is also reference to an Old Icelandic word 'lofi' that has the meaning of the palm of the hand (this relates to the modern English word 'glove').

So, your meaning may be relevent for an Old French word from the Middle Ages, but it does not pertain to any modern meaning of the word that I am aware of, much less a modern English meaning of the word.

Interestingly, when one looks up 'glove' in 'Origins', it does suggest a linkage with 'luff', but it does not make the connection the other way.
 

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« Reply #18 on: 07/03/2007 03:52:16 »
LOL I will have to write word for word what websters says!! LOL Hugs George ... Nice Jobs but me only owns one dictionary aaand it is my websters.. I fear it needs to be updated!!
 

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« Reply #19 on: 07/03/2007 04:12:37 »
Incidentally, there is a township called Löf to the southwest of Koblenz (Germany) - must be where the winds came from.
 

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« Reply #20 on: 07/03/2007 06:10:52 »
LOL HUGS GEORGE.. How are you? Hows Gaia? Send her hugs and kisses for me..
 

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« Reply #21 on: 07/03/2007 19:30:37 »
If someone edits the wiki article about "luff" does that make it an official use of the word?
 

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« Reply #22 on: 10/12/2007 08:28:28 »
If someone edits the wiki article about "luff" does that make it an official use of the word?

I do not know..maybe depends on who alters it! LOL
 

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« Reply #23 on: 10/12/2007 08:59:20 »
Ok here is a scan of my websters version a bit slow but here it is!

 

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