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Offline Wajideu

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Creation of Time
« on: 31/12/2015 16:15:00 »
While studying ai and signal processing, I figured out how to "create" time. Relativistically speaking, an unstoppable force is unchanging. As is an immovable object. When an unstoppable force meets an immovable object, the result is that some form of change has to occur, and change is fundamental aspect of time.

It's abstract and philosophical, but I think it's plausible. What's your opinion, or thoughts on how time could be generated from timeless instances?


 

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Re: Creation of Time
« Reply #1 on: 31/12/2015 17:48:52 »
Time is motion. Nothing more nothing less. The energy of motion in the universe is the present all at once.
 

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Re: Creation of Time
« Reply #2 on: 31/12/2015 19:47:15 »
Time is motion. Nothing more nothing less. The energy of motion in the universe is the present all at once.

Time is used to measure motion. Motion has the dimensions of space AND time. The energy of motion (kinetic energy) has one component of mass and another of velocity squared. The present, being a fixed instant in time, can have zero motion. Since it assumes no passage of time.
 

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Re: Creation of Time
« Reply #3 on: 31/12/2015 20:39:31 »
Time is motion. Nothing more nothing less. The energy of motion in the universe is the present all at once.

Time is used to measure motion. Motion has the dimensions of space AND time. The energy of motion (kinetic energy) has one component of mass and another of velocity squared. The present, being a fixed instant in time, can have zero motion. Since it assumes no passage of time.

If it were possible which it is not, if there is no motion in planks length of all electrons than time would not exist. Frozen in time is a oxymoron.

Frozen in motion?
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Re: Creation of Time
« Reply #4 on: 01/01/2016 03:00:05 »
Frozen in time is a oxymoron.
I always thought that was a really dumb welder... :-}
When an unstoppable force meets an immovable object, the result is that some form of change has to occur, and change is fundamental aspect of time.
Time has to already exist for something to be said to happen.
Does the unstoppable force, and the immovable object not have to be already operating within the parameters of time to be able to even approach each other, to meet?
 

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Re: Creation of Time
« Reply #5 on: 01/01/2016 05:34:20 »
Time has to already exist for something to be said to happen.
Does the unstoppable force, and the immovable object not have to be already operating within the parameters of time to be able to even approach each other, to meet?
Not necessarily. Think of it this way, an unstoppable force has a constant velocity with 0 resistance. Relativistically speaking, one could say that the unstoppable force is actually itself an immovable object, and that the universe is perpetuating the potential kinetic energy of the force; and due to it's unchanging state, it's timeless. Consider that the clock that perpetuates the flow of time is governed by the collision of raindrops, and that unstoppable force is a bunch of rain drops falling in the same direction with no wind. The raindrops fall, but the clock doesn't tick. The force has velocity, but that velocity is static; existing outside of time.
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Re: Creation of Time
« Reply #6 on: 01/01/2016 13:15:38 »
Ohh..
OK.
 

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Re: Creation of Time
« Reply #7 on: 01/01/2016 15:18:14 »
I should also mention that I've begun to question whether or not time is actually the 4th dimension.

If it is, and there are more than 4 dimensions, how would you describe a higher-dimensional velocity? distance_dim / distance_dim+1 would make sense, except that it means there is either an infinite number of dimensions, that there is some timeless dimension at the end for which there is no velocity; or like I suggested in regards to a finite universe, there is some fuzzy limit on the number of dimensions (eg. time may gradually get slower the higher each dimension goes, until there is eventually no time at all)

If time was not a dimension, or the 0th dimension, then the entire universe would run on a single clock.
 

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Re: Creation of Time
« Reply #8 on: 02/01/2016 05:12:12 »
I should also mention that I've begun to question whether or not time is actually the 4th dimension.

If it is, and there are more than 4 dimensions, how would you describe a higher-dimensional velocity? distance_dim / distance_dim+1 would make sense, except that it means there is either an infinite number of dimensions, that there is some timeless dimension at the end for which there is no velocity; or like I suggested in regards to a finite universe, there is some fuzzy limit on the number of dimensions (eg. time may gradually get slower the higher each dimension goes, until there is eventually no time at all)

If time was not a dimension, or the 0th dimension, then the entire universe would run on a single clock.
What if we actually only exist in two dimensions?
What if all there was is space and time. 
The Universe then becomes quite simple. It is simply a blend of these two dimensions.
The space dimension can be described by a cartesian coordinate system,
and the Time dimension by a one direction variable speed arrow.
The actual local blend of those two describes any point in the entire Universe.
Just these two dimensions is all that is necessary to have this Universe.
 

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