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### Author Topic: What are the limitations of general and special relativity?  (Read 920 times)

#### Thebox

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##### What are the limitations of general and special relativity?
« on: 16/01/2016 15:09:22 »
''General relativity (GR, also known as the general theory of relativity or GTR) is the geometric theory of gravitation published by Albert Einstein in 1915[1] and the current description of gravitation in modern physics. General relativity generalizes special relativity and Newton's law of universal gravitation, providing a unified description of gravity as a geometric property of space and time, or spacetime. In particular, the curvature of spacetime is directly related to the energy and momentum of whatever matter and radiation are present. The relation is specified by the Einstein field equations, a system of partial differential equations.''

Wrong
''geometric property of space and time'' false

''In physics, special relativity (SR, also known as the special theory of relativity or STR) is the generally accepted and experimentally well confirmed physical theory regarding the relationship between space and time. In Einstein's original pedagogical treatment, it is based on two postulates: (1) that the laws of physics are invariant (i.e. identical) in all inertial systems (non-accelerating frames of reference); and (2) that the speed of light in a vacuum is the same for all observers, regardless of the motion of the light source. It was originally proposed in 1905 by Albert Einstein in the paper "On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies".[1] ''

and wrong

''in all inertial systems (non-accelerating frames of reference)'' no such thing

''regardless of the motion of the light source'' false

Space itself is n-dimensional, there is no geometric properties of space, time is none existent , it is always zero time. Light phase shifts with motion, motion changes speed. Objects on Earth in an inertial situation are still accelerating downwards, things are are variable and not an invariant. Entropy changes, mass changes, things change.  Time does not dilate , space does not curve, things ''curve'' space.   Science has a really strange way of looking at things backwards and putting fairy tales to it instead of defining strict definition axioms.

This is the problem, science makes things relative to us and not relative to the Universe.

added- if the sun moved away from us when the sun reached distance x you would not be able to measure any speed or even see light or even see the light source, saying motion has no effect is preposterous.

Relative to our consciousness, there is 0t and 0d to ourselves.

Space divides our consciousness's and is the cause of argument.

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« Last Edit: 16/01/2016 16:51:29 by chris »

#### alysdexia

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##### Re: What are the limitations of general and special relativity?
« Reply #1 on: 17/01/2016 16:59:21 »
''General relativity (GR, also known as the general theory of relativity or GTR) is the geometric theory of gravitation published by Albert Einstein in 1915[1] and the current description of gravitation in modern physics. General relativity generalizes special relativity and Newton's law of universal gravitation, providing a unified description of gravity as a geometric property of space and time, or spacetime. In particular, the curvature of spacetime is directly related to the energy and momentum of whatever matter and radiation are present. The relation is specified by the Einstein field equations, a system of partial differential equations.''

Rather, GR often excludes SR, thus predictant fake relations like the Schwarzschild metric.

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''geometric property of space and time'' false

''In physics, special relativity (SR, also known as the special theory of relativity or STR) is the generally accepted and experimentally well confirmed physical theory regarding the relationship between space and time. In Einstein's original pedagogical treatment, it is based on two postulates: (1) that the laws of physics are invariant (i.e. identical) in all inertial systems (non-accelerating frames of reference); and (2) that the speed of light in a vacuum is the same for all observers, regardless of the motion of the light source. It was originally proposed in 1905 by Albert Einstein in the paper "On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies".[1] ''

and wrong

''in all inertial systems (non-accelerating frames of reference)'' no such thing

''regardless of the motion of the light source'' false

No arithmètic, no argument.

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Space itself is n-dimensional, there is no geometric properties of space,

The corollary of Newton's, Coulomb's, and Yukawa's laws is that the field and body are identical, and a mote takes up the whole univers.  Rather it is matter that stretches and squeezes, whether it has mass, charge, or color (a 1-body, 2-body, or 3-body interaction).

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time is none existent , it is always zero time.

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Light phase shifts with motion, motion changes speed.

of bodies

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Objects on Earth in an inertial situation are still accelerating downwards,

No they're not.

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things are are variable and not an invariant. Entropy changes, mass changes, things change.  Time does not dilate , space does not curve, things ''curve'' space.

Matter does.

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Science has a really strange way of looking at things backwards and putting fairy tales to it instead of defining strict definition axioms.

This is the problem, science makes things relative to us and not relative to the Universe.

not defined

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added- if the sun moved away from us when the sun reached distance x you would not be able to measure any speed or even see light or even see the light source, saying motion has no effect is preposterous.

There is a temporary apparent Rindler/accelerative horizòn, but this is irrelevant to SR.

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Relative to our consciousness, there is 0t and 0d to ourselves.

There is no 0 and consciusness can't work with 0.  There are brainwaves of extent.

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Space divides our consciousness's and is the cause of argument.

https://wordpress.com/post/theoristexplains.wordpress.com/654

consciousness's what?

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##### Re: What are the limitations of general and special relativity?
« Reply #1 on: 17/01/2016 16:59:21 »