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Re: Refuting the space-time of the theory of relativity
« Reply #1 on: 21/10/2014 00:30:15 »
Einstein never said anything about beds, large and small balls. And nobody has ever said that there are holes in spacetime. If you got that from the term Black Hole then that term was coined using terms which are to be understood only by analogy. I.e. if an kind of object moves towards the event horizon then it will eventually disappear from the universe, i.e. there will be no way at all to detect it's existence. The object will never even cross the event horizon because it slows down and comes to a stop before it gets there.
Therefore the event horizon of the black hole behaves like a hole in space, but it's not physical hole.

The change in mass of your weight is due to experimental error and not due to an actual increase in mass. The attraction of objects by the earth is independent of the magnetic field of the gravitating bodies and of the objects which are in free-fall in them. I.e. in flat spacetime an object which as a super strong magnetic field will fall at the same rate as an object with the same proper mass but which carries no magnetic field. In a curved spacetime it's a bit different since the field couples to the spacetime curvature. However the effect is so small that it can't be measure with instruments that we have today.


You have ignored the fact that all objects fall at the same rate regardless of their mass or magnetic field. In fact, as explained above,  objectd with no magnetic field at all will fall at the same rate as one with a strong magnetic field. For example: Venus doesn't have a magnetic field yet it orbits the sun as describe by Newton's and Einstein's theory, the later being more accurate.
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Re: Refuting the space-time of the theory of relativity
« Reply #2 on: 21/10/2014 12:36:02 »
Einstein never said anything about beds, large and small balls. And nobody has ever said that there are holes in spacetime. If you got that from the term Black Hole then that term was coined using terms which are to be understood only by analogy. I.e. if an kind of object moves towards the event horizon then it will eventually disappear from the universe, i.e. there will be no way at all to detect it's existence. The object will never even cross the event horizon because it slows down and comes to a stop before it gets there.
Therefore the event horizon of the black hole behaves like a hole in space, but it's not physical hole.

The change in mass of your weight is due to experimental error and not due to an actual increase in mass. The attraction of objects by the earth is independent of the magnetic field of the gravitating bodies and of the objects which are in free-fall in them. I.e. in flat spacetime an object which as a super strong magnetic field will fall at the same rate as an object with the same proper mass but which carries no magnetic field. In a curved spacetime it's a bit different since the field couples to the spacetime curvature. However the effect is so small that it can't be measure with instruments that we have today.


You have ignored the fact that all objects fall at the same rate regardless of their mass or magnetic field. In fact, as explained above,  objectd with no magnetic field at all will fall at the same rate as one with a strong magnetic field. For example: Venus doesn't have a magnetic field yet it orbits the sun as describe by Newton's and Einstein's theory, the later being more accurate.

An atom has positive and negative, so one atom attracts and repels.

What is not made of atom?

The attraction of my theory is general, the energy is which attracts. For example, if you give energy to a fan, it will turn on, and if you turn it off, will not turn.

Everything has energy and the that not has energy, will not attract.

The mass is only color solidified that does nothing. But if we give energy to the mass, become magnet.

By the way, each color emits its wave.

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Re: Refuting the space-time of the theory of relativity
« Reply #3 on: 21/10/2014 17:47:27 »
This theory is really clever. The positive and negative things in atoms attract each other, while the positives repel each other and the negatives repel each other, so we can have the forces that attract causing gravity while the ones that repel cause the dark energy that accelerates the expansion of the universe. These two contradictory things can happen at the same time in whatever way you fancy so that you can have things attracting each other to any degree you like or repelling each other to any degree you like, all based on what you see things actually doing and without regard to any actual mechanisms responsible for what you're seeing. Every simpleton under the sun can understand this theory and be satisfied by it. Congratulations for coming up with a theory with the power to stop people thinking who lack the ability to think beyond the shallowest levels, because deep thinking is not for them and may be harmful. You should be nominated for an Ignobel Prise, which I suspect is your aim.

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Re: Refuting the space-time of the theory of relativity
« Reply #4 on: 22/10/2014 02:06:44 »
This theory is really clever. The positive and negative things in atoms attract each other, while the positives repel each other and the negatives repel each other, so we can have the forces that attract causing gravity while the ones that repel cause the dark energy that accelerates the expansion of the universe.
What you've just said here is not his but was published a many decades ago in the paper

Negative Mass in General Relativity, Herman Bondi, Rev. Mod. Phys, 29(3), July 1967

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Re: Refuting the space-time of the theory of relativity
« Reply #5 on: 22/10/2014 02:16:57 »
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An atom has positive and negative, so one atom attracts and repels.
Atoms contain the same amount of protons and electrons making them electrically neutral. Therefore such neutral atoms don't attract other than through Van der Wall forces where the polarization separates charges giving atoms a dipole moment and then the attract each other. This is electrical attraction though, not gravitational.

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The attraction of my theory is general, the energy is which attracts.
That's Einstein's general theory of relativity (GR), not yours. In GR is mass (i.e. energy) which generates gravitational fields. The mathematical object that acts as the source of gravity is the stress-energy-momentum tensor.

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For example, if you give energy to a fan, it will turn on, and if you turn it off, will not turn.
That's incorrect. The only way to turn on a fan is to  provide an electric current. The energy is then electromagnetic energy, not merely energy.

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Everything has energy and the that not has energy, will not attract.
Due to the mass-energy equivalence E = mc anything that has energy has mass and anything that has mass has energy.

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But if we give energy to the mass, become magnet.
That's not true at all. You can't give objects a magnetic field merely by giving them energy. You have to generate electrical currents in them so as to generate the magnetic field.

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By the way, each color emits its wave.
That's meaningless as stated. If you are referring to light, which is an electromagnetic wave, then every wave length of light, in the visible spectrum, is associated with a different color. Electromagnetic waves outside the visible light spectrum are things like gamma rays, microwaves, UV rays, X-rays, etc.

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Re: Refuting the space-time of the theory of relativity
« Reply #6 on: 22/10/2014 04:27:46 »
According to my experiment, the planet Earth has a magnetic field and the planet Earth not has gravity neither spacetime.

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Re: Refuting the space-time of the theory of relativity
« Reply #7 on: 22/10/2014 05:14:52 »
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According to my experiment, Ö
I donít understand why youíre ignoring the comments in my responses. If youíre going to ignore what we say in response to your assertions then why bother starting a thread about this? Are you simply advertising your so-called theory and ignoring everything we find wrong with it?

I already explained to you that your claim is wrong and why. The weight, and hence the passive gravitational mass, of any body is not a function of its magnetization. This is an experimental fact. When you made those measurements you neglected to do it in a scientific manner. One doesnít just put something on a scale and weight it and claim thatís the weight. Physicists, like all scientists, repeat these experiments multiple times and change the variables in different series of experiments. You also have to take into account experimental error. Since you got the wrong answer there was something wrong with the experiment. Itís not proof that general relativity is wrong. You canít seriously believe that professional physicists are as bad as that and as lame as that to bungle simple experiments like that, can you? There has never been any instance of an objects mass changing because it was magnetized.

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Öthe planet Earth has a magnetic field and the planet Earth not has gravity neither spacetime.
That too is wrong. Itís an empirical fact that Earth and all the planets including the sun has a gravitational field. Thatís what keeps us from flying off the earth as it rotates. Itís also what keeps the moon in orbit.

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Re: Refuting the space-time of the theory of relativity
« Reply #8 on: 22/10/2014 06:29:47 »
I will perform experiments with water.

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Re: Refuting the space-time of the theory of relativity
« Reply #9 on: 22/10/2014 08:47:38 »
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I will perform experiments with water.
What are you using for equipment? Do you know how to determine the experimental error introduced with the various experiment apparatus that you'll be using?

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Re: Refuting the space-time of the theory of relativity
« Reply #10 on: 24/10/2014 21:07:53 »
My conclusion is: planet Earth attracts by magnetism.

Why placing a magnet on iron, iron acquire more weight?

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Re: Refuting the space-time of the theory of relativity
« Reply #11 on: 26/10/2014 02:50:36 »
My conclusion is: planet Earth attracts by magnetism.

Why placing a magnet on iron, iron acquire more weight?
Your conclusion is absolutely wrong. Worse than that you've ignored everything I've said to you demonstrating otherwise. That kind of behavior goes against the very foundations of what science is. I.e. from

What is Science by Panel on Public Affairs of the American Physical Society, Am. J. Phys., 67(8), Aug. (1999)
http://link.aip.org/link/ajpias/v67/i8/p659/s1

I uploaded it onto my personal website at
http://home.comcast.net/~peter.m.brown/ef/what_is_science.pdf
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Science is the systematic enterprise of gathering knowledge about the world and organizing and condensing that knowledge into testable laws and theories.

The success and credibility of science is anchored in the willingness of scientists to:

1) expose their ideas and results to independent testing and replication by other scientists: this requires the complete and open exchange of data, procedures and materials

2) abandon or modify accepted conclusions when confronted with more complete or reliable experimental evidence.

Adherence to these principles provides a mechanism for self-correction that is the foundation of the credibility of science.
Everything you've said so far is contrary to what science is.

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Re: Refuting the space-time of the theory of relativity
« Reply #12 on: 28/10/2014 01:01:11 »
My conclusion is: planet Earth attracts by magnetism.

Why placing a magnet on iron, iron acquire more weight?
Your conclusion is absolutely wrong. Worse than that you've ignored everything I've said to you demonstrating otherwise. That kind of behavior goes against the very foundations of what science is. I.e. from

What is Science by Panel on Public Affairs of the American Physical Society, Am. J. Phys., 67(8), Aug. (1999)
http://link.aip.org/link/ajpias/v67/i8/p659/s1

I uploaded it onto my personal website at
http://home.comcast.net/~peter.m.brown/ef/what_is_science.pdf
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Science is the systematic enterprise of gathering knowledge about the world and organizing and condensing that knowledge into testable laws and theories.

The success and credibility of science is anchored in the willingness of scientists to:

1) expose their ideas and results to independent testing and replication by other scientists: this requires the complete and open exchange of data, procedures and materials

2) abandon or modify accepted conclusions when confronted with more complete or reliable experimental evidence.

Adherence to these principles provides a mechanism for self-correction that is the foundation of the credibility of science.
Everything you've said so far is contrary to what science is.

The science is wrong

 

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