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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #1150 on: 03/09/2008 00:15:04 »
Hi,

I'm new to this forum. I'm female and experiencing similar symptoms. What baffles me is the fact that these symptoms usually get called post-traumatic stress disorder, flashback or dissociation when you have them as a woman. So I'm wondering- do men and women exprience the same thing? Is it due to trauma or a physical problem, or what?
I don't know if anyone has brought up this aspect before, and I don't feel quite comfortable to adress this, but it's just too strange.

Aloha

ALOHA, back to you!  Yahoo-ee, finally ANOTHER WOMAN!   :) :) :) We are a rarity here. Only one other woman that I know of
has passed through this forum, and I'm the only one who has stuck around. It's a remarkably bright and determined group of people,
who are VERY SERIOUS about finding answers to this baffling malady. Please check out the video posting that I made for youtube.
It might answer some of the questions that you have about POIS. 

I didn't address your question about trauma in my video, because as I read through the postings on this forum to write up the script
for the youtube film, I didn't find trauma to be a consistent issue with those of us who have POIS. Some of us have been sexually
or physically traumatized/abused as children, and some of us haven't. But as a whole, we seem to be leaning towards the problem
being more of a physical one, than a psychological one, though no one is sure WHAT exactly causes it, or WHAT definitively cures it.
No one thing has worked for everyone, but some people have had results/relief/ in managing or even curing their symptoms with a
very wide variety of different remedies--all the way from garlic to Levitra.

It really is TOO STRANGE!
« Last Edit: 03/09/2008 00:17:28 by girlwind »
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #1151 on: 03/09/2008 18:02:06 »
Hello, I have started a thread about POIS, candida, hypoadrenia, and raw diet here newbielink:http://www.giveittomeraw.com/forum/topic/show?id=1407416%3ATopic%3A425675&page=2&commentId=1407416%3AComment%3A426201&x=1#1407416Comment426201 [nonactive]
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #1152 on: 03/09/2008 20:02:23 »
Thanks for your responses.  There is no huge rush to fill this out.  Taking another week or even a month shouldn't affect things too much.  I just wanted to make sure people were aware of this form, and wanted to point out that there will be opportunities to add information in the future.

You can use any e-mail you'd like in the form.  Suggestions have just been made to protect your anonymity. 

Demografx:  When you complete the form, you are given a link that allows you to see other people's responses.  Anyone who sees these responses could post them somewhere. 
You should keep in mind the information you write in the form is not private, much like what we post on this thread here.  If there is important information you don't want to disclose, perhaps explain that you feel you have a relevant response but are not comfortable disclosing it.
 

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« Reply #1153 on: 03/09/2008 21:37:12 »
Many thanks, Counterpoints, for your great service!
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #1154 on: 03/09/2008 21:39:28 »
I finally told my younger son about POIS (and that I have it).

His immediate reaction was that it is "psychosomatic". My early upbringing was with religious teachers who taught that sex is "dirty", so he has a point.

I insisted that POIS is not psychosomatic, but I was weak in defending that. To me, it really is just my best educated guess after 30 suffering years plus the wonderful journey with you all here.

ANY IDEAS TO EXPLAIN WHY POIS IS NOT PSYCHOSOMATIC?

Thanks!
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« Reply #1155 on: 03/09/2008 22:58:41 »
I finally told my younger son about POIS (and that I have it).

His immediate reaction was that it is "psychosomatic". My early upbringing was with religious teachers who taught that sex is "dirty", so he has a point.

I insisted that POIS is not psychosomatic, but I was weak in defending that. To me, it really is just my best educated guess after 30 suffering years plus the wonderful journey with you all here.

ANY IDEAS TO EXPLAIN WHY POIS IS NOT PSYCHOSOMATIC?

Thanks!

HELLO DEMOGRAFX   I've been through this kind of thing SO MANY TIMES with so many people (having CFS for 30 years,
as well as POIS), and at this point I don't think there is a way to convince skeptics that these kinds of "invisible illnesses" are not
psychosomatic. What I've seen is that people come to their conclusions based not on facts or convincing arguments, but rather
on their personal experiences. So if they have not had the misfortune to suffer symptoms of the same malady as you have, then
they will be probably just NOT GET IT. 

Unfortunately, the scientific community is full of people like this, and that's why we (with POIS) are in the predicament we're in.
You don't have to look too far back in history to see all the mis-judgements that were made by great scientific skeptics who once
reduced now "legitimate" illnesses to the back burner of the psychosomatic. Not very long ago, peptic ulcers were officially diag-
nosed as the disease of the neurotic worry-wart. Now we know that there is in fact a virus (the h. pylori virus) responsible for that
condition. And what about all the children with lead poisoning who were misdiagnosed as "slow."  Before that there was all the TB
patients who were sent off to have their "long rest" in the isolation of the sanatoriums, until they FINALLY got around to discovering
the mycobacteria that causes tuberculosis. Back a little farther there were the women with multiple sclerosis who were misdiagnosed
with the mental disease of "hysteria."  I won't even begin to rant about CFS, and how long it's taken for recognition of that to happen.
There are still so many doctors who see CFS as a psychosomatic creation.

My best argument for you would be that "not everyone who thinks that sh1t is stinky, has constipation."   :D
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« Reply #1156 on: 03/09/2008 23:03:54 »
Thinking POIS is psychosomatic is a logical conclusion for anyone who hasn't experienced it, the problem is unimaginable to them. How to explain it? Good luck!  :)

As Girlwind explained, history is full of misunderstood conditions that came to light over time....and it ain't over yet.

 

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« Reply #1157 on: 04/09/2008 00:32:05 »
It's possible that POIS is psychosomatic; "the mind is it's own place and can make a hell of heaven or a heaven of hell".  But it's annoying to be labeled with a psychosomatic illness by someone who barely understands your situation.  Many people won't even consider the possibility that something isn't psychosomatic.  There's just this aggressive insistence that it's all in your mind. 

This makes it hard to accept.  It's also possible that there are traditionally non-psychological  issues closely intertwined with psychosomatic symptoms.  This makes it difficult to diagnose and treat the problem, sometimes causing the whole thing to be labeled as psychological.

I think it's good to keep an open mind to all reasonable possibilities, and give them a fair hearing.  For some of us, POIS may be psychosomatic.  At the same time, I would like us to be given  a fair hearing.





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« Reply #1158 on: 04/09/2008 03:14:43 »
Thanks, girlwind, that was enlightening with a lightening (up) ending! (almost like a Chinese proverb). Friend of the family has CFS, and she's suffered the same for years and years, even with a family-physician GP for a father who doesn't get it!
 

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« Reply #1159 on: 04/09/2008 03:29:52 »
John21, and Counterpoints, thank you very much for shedding more light on the psychosomatic.

I'm embarrassed to say that my prejudice comes from the fact that if it were psychosomatic (which I used to believe exclusively), then I - with all my considerable willpower, strength, intelligence, etc. - can't bear to admit that I have been unable to unravel my POIS - in fact not even make a dent! -  after 30 years of strenuous effort, including psych meds, over-the-top exercise, and marathon talk therapy! In addition, I  endlessly chased numerous "spiritual" paths and practitioners...to no avail. So....if the Great Unlicensed Doctor (me) couldn't cure my own POIS with a frontal attack on anything psychological/spiritual, "how could it be psychosomatic"? Make sense?

As Counterpoints states, we should be open to any and all possibilities of POIS development and cure. At this stage, I'll even consider aliens from UFO's having conducted wild experiments on us pre-natally with a cure of Kryptonite!
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« Reply #1160 on: 04/09/2008 08:48:16 »
There was no reaction at all to the questionnaire being posted, after sooo much work. And only one person has even filled it out.  This is the key to getting help ...

Hi Counterpoints, Took a brief look at the questionaire the day after you posted the link and thought it looked very comprehensive. Great attention to detail which must have taken plenty of effort; sincere thanks for that.

I've started working on my answers (will cut/paste into questionaire when done) but I've had no time to really sit down and do it justice due to recent travel obligations. Is there a way to edit my responses after submission?

I wouldn't worry if the early reaction to the questionaire seems slow (this might just be consistent with the way people eventually get around to posting an extended amount of information when they are feeling up to it).

May I suggest that the link is reposted here on a regular basis (perhaps so that it appears at least once on each page of TNS posts).
I've modified the signature on my TNS account to advertise it, but I may not post frequently enough (and I suspect that new TNS accounts don't display other users signatures by default).

Thanks again for your efforts!

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #1161 on: 04/09/2008 09:07:17 »
 
   beta blockers : apart from imre1 (Emconcor / bisoprolol) and Counterpoints (Nadolol), anyone else tried or trying these?

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« Reply #1162 on: 04/09/2008 14:15:11 »
   beta blockers : apart from imre1 (Emconcor / bisoprolol) and Counterpoints (Nadolol), anyone else tried or trying these?
Atenolol. For high blood pressure. On it for a number of years.
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« Reply #1163 on: 04/09/2008 17:35:02 »
sparx: I've switched to testing bisoprolol.  5 mg/day
If Beta1 selectivity is a critical factor in helping Imre1, it might be worth testing Nebivolol. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebivolol

The beta1 selectivity of bisoprolol is about twice that of atenolol, and the beta1 selectivity of nebivolol is about 3.5 times that of bisoprolol.  (As far as I know).  Nadolol is a non-selective beta blocker.

I *do* notice a difference between Nadolol and bisoprolol.  I will explain after I have tested it for awhile longer (I have been using it for about 4 days).

Interesting comment on the nadolol wikipedia page:
"A recent study found that, in certain adults with ADHD that had not responded to traditional therapies, or were unable to tolerate them, the addition of nadolol saw increase in attention and focusing capacities, along with a decrease in anxiety, impulsiveness, and somatic discomfort."

And from the bisoprolol page:
"The drug is also used to treat other conditions, including dysautonomia, anxiety and hyperthyroidism (over active thyroid gland)"

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« Reply #1164 on: 04/09/2008 17:43:53 »

I'm embarrassed to say that my prejudice comes from the fact that if it were psychosomatic (which I used to believe exclusively), then I - with all my considerable willpower, strength, intelligence, etc. - can't bear to admit that I have been unable to unravel my POIS - in fact not even make a dent! -  after 30 years of strenuous effort, including psych meds, over-the-top exercise, and marathon talk therapy! In addition, I  endlessly chased numerous "spiritual" paths and practitioners...to no avail. So....if the Great Unlicensed Doctor (me) couldn't cure my own POIS with a frontal attack on anything psychological/spiritual, "how could it be psychosomatic"? Make sense?

As Counterpoints states, we should be open to any and all possibilities of POIS development and cure. At this stage, I'll even consider aliens from UFO's having conducted wild experiments on us pre-natally with a cure of Kryptonite!

Psychosomatic implies that the mind is the "source" of the problem.  But who's to say that the effects of abuse damage us only
psychologically. There's also the possibility that ANY kind of abuse to one as a child may cause PTSD symptomology that is NOT
ONLY psychologically, BUT ALSO physically damaging to one's brain, immune, nervous, and hormonal systems. This goes beyond
what is traditionally called psychosomatic. A brilliant acupuncturist/herbalist/medical researcher from southern CA writes about
it on his website.

"Patients with a long history of emotional, physical, and sexual abuse may find that conventional psychotherapeutic and
pharmacological treatments have limited benefit in addressing recurrent episodes of anxiety, panic, and intrusive memories.
Our clinical experience in this matter demonstrates that post traumatic stress disorder is a type of auto-immune disease that
targets the nervous and hormonal systems as a result of antibody responses to excessive levels of stress induced neurotrans-
mitters and hormones. Individualized Chinese herbal formulas that regulate the immune system, clear antibodies to neuro-
transmitters and hormones, and treat secondary infections and chemical exposures that influence immune function can assist
in reducing PTSD symptoms to improve cognitive and emotional functioning."

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« Reply #1165 on: 04/09/2008 18:05:04 »
I think of "psychosomatic" in the broader sense.  Things that happen to us do affect the chemistry of our brains.  People with various "psychological" conditions will have unusual metabolisms in certain regions of the brain.  When treated for these problems, these areas of the brain "re-activate". 
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« Reply #1166 on: 05/09/2008 00:59:16 »
This is the Merriam-Webster definition of psychosomatic - - that I had in mind when writing my post above:

of, relating to, involving, or concerned with bodily symptoms caused by mental or emotional disturbance
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« Reply #1167 on: 06/09/2008 01:24:04 »
I am doing some amazing flip flopping on this Candida issue. It did indeed seem like sugar threw me for a loop so I began adjusting my diet as directed by some websites. After a few days I convinced myself that it is too bizarre, and treated myself to an ice cream cone type product (one of those wrapped ones in the freezer) and that night my insomnia was ferocious.  So again I am endeavoring to go veggies + meat (+eggs, nuts) for a good long while, and start taking some probiotics and anti-Candida supplements.  The apparent connection of sugar with my insomnia is one clue; the amazing disappearance of my POIS while on garlic is another clue. With this, and the fact that some people believe strongly in the reality of Candida overgrowth, it is enough to convince me to go down a road of strict eating.

I had previously been suspicious of a connection between sugar consumption and my insomnia. At the time I wondered if perhaps my blood glucose levels were abnormal at night causing me to wake up, so I bought a glucose meter and took some readings.  I followed this up with my doctor and it was ruled out by her opinion and with tests she (reluctantly) sent me to. I have also previously been suspicious of bread. For years I had made homemade whole wheat bread everyday. When I switched to bought bread (again whole wheat) I noticed that my insomnia improved a little. I could never make sense of this. Perhaps the amount of yeast or sugar consumed contributed to Candida.

If Candida is behind POIS in some cases, perhaps it is caused hormonally. Just as a pregnant woman is more susceptible to a vaginal yeast infection, perhaps some people are more susceptible to Candida internally when the sex hormones are flying. Perhaps early age engagement in sexual activity promotes a stronger hormonal response, helping to create the problem.

Again, my working hypothesis is that a pelvic area fungus growth is rejuvenated by blood flow to the sex organs, releasing fungus/toxins into the bloodstream causing our symptoms.
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« Reply #1168 on: 06/09/2008 08:23:29 »
There was no reaction at all to the questionnaire being posted, after sooo much work. And only one person has even filled it out.  This is the key to getting help ...

Hi Counterpoints, Took a brief look at the questionaire the day after you posted the link and thought it looked very comprehensive. Great attention to detail which must have taken plenty of effort; sincere thanks for that.

I've started working on my answers (will cut/paste into questionaire when done) but I've had no time to really sit down and do it justice due to recent travel obligations. Is there a way to edit my responses after submission?

I wouldn't worry if the early reaction to the questionaire seems slow (this might just be consistent with the way people eventually get around to posting an extended amount of information when they are feeling up to it).

May I suggest that the link is reposted here on a regular basis (perhaps so that it appears at least once on each page of TNS posts).
I've modified the signature on my TNS account to advertise it, but I may not post frequently enough (and I suspect that new TNS accounts don't display other users signatures by default).

Thanks again for your efforts!


Counterpoints,
I'd like to take a look at that questionnaire. I recently just joined this forum.
Where can I find it?
Thanks,
Animus.
 

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« Reply #1169 on: 06/09/2008 08:44:50 »
John21, and Counterpoints, thank you very much for shedding more light on the psychosomatic.

I'm embarrassed to say that my prejudice comes from the fact that if it were psychosomatic (which I used to believe exclusively), then I - with all my considerable willpower, strength, intelligence, etc. - can't bear to admit that I have been unable to unravel my POIS - in fact not even make a dent! -  after 30 years of strenuous effort, including psych meds, over-the-top exercise, and marathon talk therapy! In addition, I  endlessly chased numerous "spiritual" paths and practitioners...to no avail. So....if the Great Unlicensed Doctor (me) couldn't cure my own POIS with a frontal attack on anything psychological/spiritual, "how could it be psychosomatic"? Make sense?

As Counterpoints states, we should be open to any and all possibilities of POIS development and cure. At this stage, I'll even consider aliens from UFO's having conducted wild experiments on us pre-natally with a cure of Kryptonite!

demographx,
My POIS is definitely not psychosomatic.
And I doubt yours is too- after 30-some odd years. 
I put forth my theory on the cause in my first (very long) email.  But I'll tell you, it really makes sense to me.  I've had a very acute case of POIS, which was greatly alleviated after I had surgery to remove my testicles.  I still have some POIS, but it is much abated.  My plan is to have my seminal vesicles surgically removed and my prostate shrunk, to finish off POIS.
I'll let you all know if it works.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #1170 on: 06/09/2008 14:14:48 »
Hi,

3 concepts in this post:

1.- information gathering: I read about many topics, ideas and diets and I think that it should be centralized in some place. For a newcomer and a longterm visitor we don`t have a place to skim through and a reference of terms on which we/you operate (I dont know many of them - and have to look them up in a dict ... repeatedly ;).
If there is an interest in this Idea - we could set up some place or make a research on tools to gather the knowledge in an accessible way (like wiki or wikia for example). Please tell me what you think about that.

2.- garlic: yesterday I had an orgasm unshielded by garlic diet. Results are as follows: lighter brain fog (due to a better diet probably), stiffnes in neck as always and usual symptoms like backpains and bowel pains. I work in IT and feel the effects of pois overwhelmingly at my daily job. since the garlic diet its much lighter. there is a real change in the attitude actually, I feel much more hopeful after that garlic invention and wanted to share it with you :)

3.- diet: I have to tell you that I recently added fresh citruses to my diet - I feel much much better after eating them, I have much more energy! (they dont react with POIS directly thou)

good luck.
James
 

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« Reply #1171 on: 06/09/2008 14:45:08 »
Important terms and clues:

  • newbielink:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibromyalgia [nonactive]
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    Physical treatments
    Studies have found exercise improves fitness and sleep and may reduce pain and fatigue in some people with fibromyalgia.[143] Many patients find temporary relief by applying heat to painful areas. Those with access to physical therapy, massage, or acupuncture may find them beneficial.[144] Most patients find exercise, even low intensity exercise to be extremely helpful.[145] Osteopathic manipulative therapy can also temporarily relieve pain due to fibromyalgia.[146]
    Whirlpool therapy is very beneficial. It's important that the water temperature be at least 95 degrees. This therapy was recommended by the Fibromyalgia Clinic at Mayo.
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    NEW RESEARCH undertaken at the Human Performance Laboratory at Karlstad University by Swedish PHD, Sven-Åke Bood [142]concludes that regular floatation tank sessions can drastically relieve chronic stress related ailments. Studies involving 140 people with long-term conditions such as anxiety, stress, depression and fibromyalgia found that more than three quarters experienced noticeable improvements.

    check out also:
    • newbielink:http://livingwithcfs.wordpress.com/ [nonactive]
    • newbielink:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17872383?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=1&log [nonactive]$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed

  • newbielink:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_system#Disorders_of_human_immunity [nonactive]
  • newbielink:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlamydia_trachomatis [nonactive]
  • newbielink:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sj [nonactive]ögren%27s_syndrome
  • newbielink:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome [nonactive]






 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #1172 on: 06/09/2008 18:32:57 »
Hi,

3 concepts in this post:

1.- information gathering: I read about many topics, ideas and diets and I think that it should be centralized in some place. For a newcomer and a longterm visitor we don`t have a place to skim through and a reference of terms on which we/you operate (I dont know many of them - and have to look them up in a dict ... repeatedly ;).
If there is an interest in this Idea - we could set up some place or make a research on tools to gather the knowledge in an accessible way (like wiki or wikia for example). Please tell me what you think about that.

2.- garlic: yesterday I had an orgasm unshielded by garlic diet. Results are as follows: lighter brain fog (due to a better diet probably), stiffnes in neck as always and usual symptoms like backpains and bowel pains. I work in IT and feel the effects of pois overwhelmingly at my daily job. since the garlic diet its much lighter. there is a real change in the attitude actually, I feel much more hopeful after that garlic invention and wanted to share it with you :)

3.- diet: I have to tell you that I recently added fresh citruses to my diet - I feel much much better after eating them, I have much more energy! (they dont react with POIS directly thou)

good luck.
James
Hi,

3 concepts in this post:

1.- information gathering: I read about many topics, ideas and diets and I think that it should be centralized in some place. For a newcomer and a longterm visitor we don`t have a place to skim through and a reference of terms on which we/you operate (I dont know many of them - and have to look them up in a dict ... repeatedly ;).
If there is an interest in this Idea - we could set up some place or make a research on tools to gather the knowledge in an accessible way (like wiki or wikia for example). Please tell me what you think about that.

2.- garlic: yesterday I had an orgasm unshielded by garlic diet. Results are as follows: lighter brain fog (due to a better diet probably), stiffnes in neck as always and usual symptoms like backpains and bowel pains. I work in IT and feel the effects of pois overwhelmingly at my daily job. since the garlic diet its much lighter. there is a real change in the attitude actually, I feel much more hopeful after that garlic invention and wanted to share it with you :)

3.- diet: I have to tell you that I recently added fresh citruses to my diet - I feel much much better after eating them, I have much more energy! (they dont react with POIS directly thou)

good luck.
James

Hello James,
Welcome. I'm a newbie as well.
1. I think it's a great idea to establish a precis, and a central webpage for info, background, theories, etc.  I was thinking the same thing yesterday. There we could summarize everything without having to go through the 50+ pages of communication.
We could start a Wikipedia entry for POIS, each add to it and contribute to shaping it.  It would be like a clearinghouse of information for all of us.
I've never made a Wiki entry before, but I have some time to figure it out. We should also include that interesting introductory video by girlwind.
 
2. I'm interested in trying that Garlic remedy myself to test it.
Sincerely,
Animus
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #1173 on: 06/09/2008 19:45:12 »
Dear Animus,
The questionnaire can be found at http://pois.olympe-network.com
Your input would be of great value.

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #1174 on: 07/09/2008 01:38:01 »
Thanks again Counterpoints for all your wonderful work, and also to Marnia and the other unknown "many people" who have also contributed.

And thanks to Imre who came back to us to give a feedback on his own success. It's a valuable action.

At least this is not psychosomatic and not so far than pois i think :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractory_period#Sexual_refractory_period

Demografx, in your religious teaching, was it mentionned that sex is dirty/bad or orgasm is. (I don't have pois if I have sex without orgasm, or just a 10% of very short pois, which is not pois because it's not post orgasmic  ;D). If the idea of general sexuality is the problem you should have pois symptoms every time you have sex without orgasm which is not the case i'm sure. Was there other teaching of prohibition causing p?is ?

Sorry for the next one again ! When you're drunk after a glass of wine how can you know it's not psychosomatic ?
-Special effect, you'll never reproduce it without orgasm.
-Strong and very noticeable effect. (as Hjkl said, i'm at 20% of my normal energy level)
-Everytime i have an orgasm i'm 100% sure i'll have pois.

I strongly believe that pois is not psychological for me, but even if it is, some people are less able to deal with psychological problems because of a weak nervous system, brain or whatever. So it's psychological but not only.

It's not so important to know if pois is psychological. What is important is, can it be cured with a psychotherapy ? Maybe some people will be able to cure it like that and i encourage this, but personally i couldn't after years of therapy including psychoanalysis, hypnosis and psychotherapy. That's why i need a physical treatment (true for me).
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
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