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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12775 on: 13/04/2011 21:40:34 »

If we take into consideration what Lauracostis says, perhaps we can STILL expect an improvement!!


Yes! And my endo confirms that possibility in his letter above!

I haven't been so excited since losing my virginity.

Whoops...or do my lab reports confirm that I might not have lost my virginity?? What do I tell my 2 grown sons?? The plot, er..thickens (no pun intended).
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12776 on: 13/04/2011 21:46:03 »
Hey guys... haven't been on this site in a couple weeks as I've said I'd update on my next "O".

Here's what happened, I started taking apple cider vinegar, for about 3 weeks.  Than I bought some Excedrin Pm.  On that night that I took the Excedrin Pm I experienced an NE, no symptoms the day afterwards.  This was about 5 days ago.  Than today I just decided to "O" considerably, about 5-6 times.  All of that built up frustration you know...As I've repeated in the past when I abstain from "O" I get a "brain foggy" feeling in the front of my head, and when I "O" this feeling usually goes away but leaves me with the worst mood.  So after "O'ing" a considerable amount last night and today I feel significantly better, the brain fog is not there and my mood is actually pretty good.  But I did remember feeling a little P-O-I-Sy after one "O", but then I "O'd" again it it dissappeared.  I feel good right now.

Still don't really know if it was the ACV or the excedrin pm.  the acv is good for infections, viruses, allergies, and the excedrin pm has some anti-histamine affect to it.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12777 on: 13/04/2011 21:55:58 »

The P/T contraceptive treatment, if it works may have the potential for working by alternate actions than just removing the sperm from our bodies(this is an alternate hypothesis to just the regular sperm allergy theory, and was the primary reason I thought of using P/T as a treatment).  It will stop a myriad of hormones that are associated with the production of sperm.  I believe that there is a possibility that these hormones are causing the reaction in our bodies; possibly something like "gonadotropin releasing hormone". these hormones are released after ejaculation to replace the sperm, I also believe that some of these hormones are preemptively released in response to arousal and stimulation in preparation of what the body believes will end in sperm loss to jump start the process of sperm production before ejaculation happens. 
Don't worry, if the P/T contraceptive works, there are a number of different possibilities why it is working besides just removing the sperm for sperm allergies. 
Another possible theory is based on the fact that both progesterone and testosterone can suppress the immune system.  Progesterone is one of the possible hormones in pregnancy that some believe is responsible for the immune system not attacking the fetus as a foreign invader in the body during gestation.  I am doing an obstetrics rotation right now and I have been told that autoimmune disease usually significantly improve during pregnancy and then return to normal afterward.
The P/T contraceptive is going to cover a bunch of bases at once.



Worth repeating!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12778 on: 13/04/2011 22:13:40 »

Daveman - Is it possible for you to add another topic on the other site? labeled something along the lines of "case profile or POIS personal log" etc... I would post there regularly, I would be interested in seeing what other people do on a day to day basis with POIS, the aim of the being to update regularly.
 

The new format adapts to that quite well, Good point, the space is yours! ;)


Where can we find this?

Why at the following of course!!
Once the new format is in place!

I might even call it Green's corner!!



The new POIS forum is open! The link below  gets you there.

Click here!
http://72.52.181.21/POIS/index.php



 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12779 on: 13/04/2011 22:25:06 »

I might even call it Green's Korner!!


So THAT'S what Green looks like!!!

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12780 on: 14/04/2011 02:18:49 »
guys check this out.

If you are afraid like me to go and talk to your doctor about a potential semen allergy and don't want to get injections.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergen_immunotherapy

"Allergen immunotherapy can either reduce the need for medication, severity of symptoms or eliminate hypersensitivity altogether. Therapy can be administered under the tongue (sublingually) or by injections under the skin (subcutaneous)"

Maybe we can try semen "under the tongue" ? ? No need for injections

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublingual_immunotherapy
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12781 on: 14/04/2011 02:52:56 »
GC, interesting. Sometimes I take medications sublingually for a speedier effect.

Not sure I'd want to try semen that way, though  :)
 

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« Reply #12782 on: 14/04/2011 03:26:30 »
GC, interesting. Sometimes I take medications sublingually for a speedier effect.

Not sure I'd want to try semen that way, though  :)
Demo, even though your doctor said you have no sperm, try and see if you can get an actual count(number).  No sperm may just mean you barley have any sperm compared to a regular male.  If you have low sperm, the P/T treatment has the possibility of producing absolutely zero sperm, or real close to.  For example, if someone has less than 15-20 million sperm per a milliliter, the doctor would say your sterile. That would still give you quite a few sperm to get rid of with the P/T combo, not to mention any immune reducing properties of P/T(possibly synergistic effect).  tell your doctor you are looking for an absolute zero sperm count.

aren't you glad you did that pre P/T treatment sperm count.  we would have had no idea about your T treatment sperm count, as a result would have not been able to distinguish between the exact effectivness of the two.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12783 on: 14/04/2011 03:30:48 »
You are probably going to really get it when that one guy who's balls shrank finds out that you really do have no sperm.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12784 on: 14/04/2011 07:58:46 »

Demo, even though your doctor said you have no sperm, try and see if you can get an actual count(number).  No sperm may just mean you barely have any sperm compared to a regular male.


OK, Laurac, you asked for it! :) Directly from The Lab:

Sperm Concentration         0.00000  mill/mL
         Total Sperm                    million
Total motile sperm             0.0000   million
Total progressive                       million

Ejaculate volume                 4.80    mL


I have more data if you want (seminal pH, sperm motility, etc.)
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12785 on: 14/04/2011 08:01:51 »

Aren't you glad you did that pre P/T treatment sperm count. 


Absolutely! Thank you!
 

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« Reply #12786 on: 14/04/2011 08:03:27 »

You are probably going to really get it when that one guy who's balls shrank finds out that you really do have no sperm.


As my endo said, it could've been easily that way PRIOR to testosterone!
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12787 on: 14/04/2011 09:02:41 »
I have another UTI. Today I went to my GP. There was a small amount of protein in the semen. So he gave me antibiotics. Had an UTI 2 months ago. Now again.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12788 on: 14/04/2011 12:30:23 »
guys check this out.

If you are afraid like me to go and talk to your doctor about a potential semen allergy and don't want to get injections.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergen_immunotherapy

"Allergen immunotherapy can either reduce the need for medication, severity of symptoms or eliminate hypersensitivity altogether. Therapy can be administered under the tongue (sublingually) or by injections under the skin (subcutaneous)"

Maybe we can try semen "under the tongue" ? ? No need for injections

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublingual_immunotherapy

And that would be better??!! LOL
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12789 on: 14/04/2011 15:48:19 »
guys check this out.

If you are afraid like me to go and talk to your doctor about a potential semen allergy and don't want to get injections.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergen_immunotherapy

"Allergen immunotherapy can either reduce the need for medication, severity of symptoms or eliminate hypersensitivity altogether. Therapy can be administered under the tongue (sublingually) or by injections under the skin (subcutaneous)"

Maybe we can try semen "under the tongue" ? ? No need for injections

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublingual_immunotherapy

And that would be better??!! LOL

haha, at this point I really don't care.  I would eat my own excrement if it meant for a pois cure  :P
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12790 on: 14/04/2011 15:56:19 »
GC, interesting. Sometimes I take medications sublingually for a speedier effect.

Not sure I'd want to try semen that way, though  :)

Demo, we all know that you've done it before.  :o

haha, I'll stop right there.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12791 on: 14/04/2011 18:45:58 »
GC, interesting. Sometimes I take medications sublingually for a speedier effect.

Not sure I'd want to try semen that way, though  :)

Demo, we all know that you've done it before.  :o

haha, I'll stop right there.

There is also chance that saliva neutralizes substances present in the ejaculate thus biasing the result hoped for
 

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« Reply #12792 on: 14/04/2011 19:06:35 »

GC, interesting. Sometimes I take medications sublingually for a speedier effect.

Not sure I'd want to try semen that way, though  :)


Demo, we all know that you've done it before.  :o

haha, I'll stop right there.


Hmm, this sounds more like your Voice Of Recognition, rather than any knowledge of me. ;D
 

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« Reply #12793 on: 14/04/2011 19:09:50 »

GC, interesting. Sometimes I take medications sublingually for a speedier effect.

Not sure I'd want to try semen that way, though  :)


Demo, we all know that you've done it before.  :o

haha, I'll stop right there.


There is also chance that saliva neutralizes substances present in the ejaculate thus biasing the result hoped for


Carlitto, excellent point.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12794 on: 14/04/2011 19:25:36 »

GC, interesting. Sometimes I take medications sublingually for a speedier effect.

Not sure I'd want to try semen that way, though  :)


Demo, we all know that you've done it before.  :o

haha, I'll stop right there.


There is also chance that saliva neutralizes substances present in the ejaculate thus biasing the result hoped for


Carlitto, excellent point.

Uh-oohh

Would that mean that the test done by the nurses here might be skewed?

 

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« Reply #12795 on: 14/04/2011 21:29:16 »

GC, interesting. Sometimes I take medications sublingually for a speedier effect.

Not sure I'd want to try semen that way, though  :)


Demo, we all know that you've done it before.  :o

haha, I'll stop right there.


There is also chance that saliva neutralizes substances present in the ejaculate thus biasing the result hoped for


Carlitto, excellent point.


Uh-oohh

Would that mean that the test done by the nurses here might be skewed?



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« Reply #12796 on: 14/04/2011 21:37:17 »

I would eat my own excrement if it meant for a pois cure  :P


haha, I'll stop right there.


GoingCrazy, we all thank you for doing so!  ;D
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12797 on: 14/04/2011 21:44:15 »
Hi all.
With all this no sperm talk with people with pois im
really worried about my future chances of having children.
Can anyone ease my fear about this?
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12798 on: 14/04/2011 22:11:13 »
scooby, I have 2 grown sons, two of the most incredible, brilliant, and well adjusted people I know on the planet.

I have also had very intense POIS for well over 30 years of my life. My no-sperm count could be a result of aging, testosterone treatment, or a number of other factors.

With increasing POIS treatment options, such as desentisization, plus monitoring of your own sperm count, I think you can be very optimistic!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #12799 on: 14/04/2011 22:19:09 »


Demo T/P Update


This morning, Day 3 of my T/P treatment, I woke up with a very significant increase in my libido. I wrote to my endocrinologist, wondering if it was just a coincidence or a placebo effect.

He replied that he is speculating  but it is possible that I am experiencing a side effect of the T/P treatment!
 

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