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« Reply #13650 on: 14/06/2011 01:07:00 »
this time i think i have overdone it cause its the 9th day today and still its not totally recovered....and this time my i have a new symptom..my right flickers all the time... and i fell so stressed..am planning to go for a single O tonight..i think it will solve the problem..and i will recover fully in the normal time that is around 4-5days...
Eyes that flicker could be caused by stress. If I were you: no O. First you have to recover. A few days ago I showed a picture what sperm can do to a POIS-patient. You can see a red rash and nodules. Can you imagine what happens inside the body with all that sperm? And because your body thinks it's something bad your immune system works and you get very tired.

And about not wanting to talk to anybody: there are more people who have this. Maybe on day 1 it's better not to have a lot of contact, but on day 2 you have to socialize.

Hi Vandemolen,
Can you please post that photo to the Theoretical discussion thread on the new forum? It's a very interesting image, and we're trying to collect these kinds of images in one place for an eventual "wiki". thanks, Animus
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« Reply #13651 on: 14/06/2011 01:57:46 »
Just a note on the international donation facility at NORD!

Well I have to say, they know who we are!! This facility was new, and had a few last kinks, although more than anything it was erring on the safe side. But all's well now, they say.

There should be no more problems, but IF there are, any error would be tagged with a special error log code, which helps them follow up. Should you have problems, report that number to the webmaster and they will get you straightened away. Follow up with a PM to us.

I should be posting a new total tomorrow.

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« Reply #13652 on: 14/06/2011 02:11:58 »
The new forum is registered and generating statistics for the Google crawlers.

I see there are still quite a few references from the old URL, which was an IP number. This shows as a backlink, but is not a very "powerful one". It would be better for those that have the old URL bookmarked, to re-bookmark either with http://poiscenter.com  or http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php by going to either directly and THEN bookmarking once there.

We could also use more members over there now that Google is watching us. If you haven't gone over there yet, register up, go over and have a good visit. More activity the better.

Not that we want to move away from here, but having SMF strong on Google is an extra security blanket for attracting newbies, and a move to independance and greater flexibility.

Also we'd like to begin creating that "grouped and organized information", for use in a new mini-Wiki AND as easier reference for potential NORD related searches by investigators once they see us in the NORD database.

Thanks again.




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« Reply #13653 on: 14/06/2011 02:29:38 »

Excellent, Dave!

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« Reply #13654 on: 14/06/2011 05:04:18 »
Demo and I have about 40 EMails each back and forth with people at N O R D, from the site programmer all the way up to the CEO. At 10:01, we had set a limit of 10:00, we received a message that the system was now operational.

Stefanie is sick at home (over this I might add). Didn't get to sleep until about 05:30 AM!
Demo had to go take a walk to "settle down", so meantime I send this note!

Ya'll do not mess around!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 

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« Reply #13655 on: 14/06/2011 05:26:45 »
this time i think i have overdone it cause its the 9th day today and still its not totally recovered....and this time my i have a new symptom..my right flickers all the time... and i fell so stressed..am planning to go for a single O tonight..i think it will solve the problem..and i will recover fully in the normal time that is around 4-5days...
Eyes that flicker could be caused by stress. If I were you: no O. First you have to recover. A few days ago I showed a picture what sperm can do to a POIS-patient. You can see a red rash and nodules. Can you imagine what happens inside the body with all that sperm? And because your body thinks it's something bad your immune system works and you get very tired.

And about not wanting to talk to anybody: there are more people who have this. Maybe on day 1 it's better not to have a lot of contact, but on day 2 you have to socialize.
hi vandemolen as i told u today is the 10th morning and last night i had a single O and today i am out of it...i am feeling so good...an advice to everyone who is suffering from pois that dont have more than one O at a time...i suffered for the last whole month..and atlast i am good..even my eye has stopped flickering...its a kind of a miracle...

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« Reply #13656 on: 14/06/2011 05:29:48 »
everytime i come out of pois i feel i am so lucky and i feel great...

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« Reply #13657 on: 14/06/2011 08:29:36 »
Hello everybody, i just found this wonderful forum a few days ago. I am a 39 year old male who has been suffering from POIS since i was 15. My snydrome is classic POIS, muscle ache, tiredness, fatigue, lack of concentration and motivation etc etc. I feel worst on day 2 after O.  I always thought i was the only one with this syndrome but now i know that there are a lot of people that are like me. Hope that finally we will find a cure to this dreadful illness. It is really terrible and it has nearly ruined my life. I affected my studies, i had to miss going to university because of it. At least i am lucky in having a not very demanding job .  I am posting from work, will keep in touch. 
Thanks for everybody who is posting in this forum to help finding a cure to this. 

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« Reply #13658 on: 14/06/2011 10:42:52 »
daveman,
thanks for putting a link to the forum on http://poiscenter.com,
its make things easier.

By the way, you spelt "centre" wrong.   :D
(proper English please ;D ;D)

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« Reply #13659 on: 14/06/2011 15:32:41 »
daveman,
thanks for putting a link to the forum on http://poiscenter.com,
its make things easier.

By the way, you spelt "centre" wrong.   :D
(proper English please ;D ;D)


We're unique, a rare breed. Heh-heh. I'm sure that in some part of the world "center" is spelled this way ;D ;D.

BTW POIS DOES make me dyslexic!

Edit: Excel Word is dyslexic too it seems. It accepts both spellings, but only gives synonyms for center! I use the English US dictionary. But me being a Canadian eh, it seems I remember we spelled it with "re", perhaps in England too.
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« Reply #13660 on: 14/06/2011 15:43:16 »
Hello everybody, i just found this wonderful forum a few days ago. I am a 39 year old male who has been suffering from POIS since i was 15. My snydrome is classic POIS, muscle ache, tiredness, fatigue, lack of concentration and motivation etc etc. I feel worst on day 2 after O.  I always thought i was the only one with this syndrome but now i know that there are a lot of people that are like me. Hope that finally we will find a cure to this dreadful illness. It is really terrible and it has nearly ruined my life. I affected my studies, i had to miss going to university because of it. At least i am lucky in having a not very demanding job .  I am posting from work, will keep in touch. 
Thanks for everybody who is posting in this forum to help finding a cure to this. 
Welcome theblade!  Glad you found us.  There's a great group of guys here.  A lot of action is going on at the new forum, which you were probably aware of:
http://poiscenter.com

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« Reply #13661 on: 14/06/2011 17:02:53 »

Everytime I come out of POIS I feel I am so lucky and I feel great...


This is the way we should ALWAYS feel!

365 days/year!

Sex or no sex!

Ask Animus...it  _IS_  possible!
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« Reply #13662 on: 14/06/2011 19:19:44 »
theblade, welcome to the POIS thread of The Naked Science Forum!




Here are some POIS resources which may be helpful to you:

Our new POIS Forum - architectural genius: "daveman" - for detailed subject-by-subject discussion!
http://www.POISCenter.com/forums/index.php
Our 4-year-old POIS thread here at Naked Science Forum will also always remain open for newcomers, for general unstructured discussion, and historical research of the 10,000+ postings here since 2007.

The Learning Channel's (TLC)  feature TV presentation on POIS, featuring our member here at this forum, "Animus". It was aired on May 22, 2011. Here is a link to the file for that TV documentary, "Desperate Measures", which can be downloaded and played. The segment starts at about 12:20..
http://www.fileserve.com/file/cUtJa9R/TITLE01.mp4

Our POIS Information Website, built by "mat780", is here:
http://sites.google.com/site/POISwebsite/

The POIS Information Website is home to the famous POIS Forum Compendium, written by "Pyropeach", and contains theories already discussed here and treatments that have both worked and failed.

Please see "B_Jim"'s POIS Summary of All Cases, here as well as others on the Web. This includes remedies that we have tested, and results.
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg149009#msg149009

"Girlwind" has created an excellent POIS Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWBxAUC9k1g

Our new POIS chatroom (realtime chat). Invite or visit another member(s) there, ANY TIME. We can all get to know each other better:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/POIS/chat


POIS Research Studies, 2011

These 2 papers reveal Dr. Waldinger's POIS autoimmune hypothesis and suggests one possible avenue of treatment.

First POIS Research Study, 2002

We have a copy of the first formal medical investigation on POIS by Prof. dr. Marcel D. Waldinger,MD,PhD, and Dr. Dave Schweitzer, MD.

  
Recent POIS Research Study, 2010

CASE REPORT
Postorgasm Illness Syndrome - A Spectrum of Illnesses
Jane Ashby, MRCP, and David Goldmeier, MRCP
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg316781#msg316781


British Medical Journal Case Report, 2010

Case study by Dr. Selwyn Dexter of a patient with a headache-featured POIS symptom treated with progesterone/norethisterone.
http://casereports.bmj.com/content/2010/bcr.10.2009.2359.short?rss=1


How to get any or all of the above 5 studies: send me or "daveman" a Private Message (PM) with your regular email address (use "AT" instead of "@" ) and we'll send you back the PDF(s).

To send a Private Message, click on "Messages" at the top of this page. At the Messages page, click on "New Message". From that point on, it works just like posting a message here, except that it only goes to the person(s) you designate.

Remember to put a quote around the recipient's name, i.e., "demografx", or "daveman".


New York Times article,

January 20, 2009
Mind
Sex and Depression: In the Brain, if Not the Mind
By RICHARD A. FRIEDMAN, M.D.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/health/views/20mind.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=friedman%20sexual%20January%2020&st=cse

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In addition to serving our own informational interests, the resources listed above can be useful for you to show our credibility to the medical world - which often shows little understanding and is sometimes skeptical of our condition: POIS has scientific underpinnings and POIS is not "just another psychological problem" related to sex - to be treated by the psychiatric/psychotherapeutic community. All of this information can greatly help you to fight the immediate reaction of some doctors: so just tell them, "IT'S NOT 'ALL IN OUR HEADS'! "

Also, it can be helpful when dealing with medical professionals to point out the successful existence of our rapidly growing forum, which has already been referenced in respectable sources such as the Journal of Sexual Medicine (Dr. Waldinger's study), British Medical Journal and wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postorgasmic_illness_syndrome

For over 4 years, our POIS forum has attracted over 200 POIS sufferers worldwide who have posted here, research on an additional 200 sufferers elsewhere on the internet, plus over 1,000,000 page visits. Not bad for a rare malady!



SEARCH THE FORUM WITH GOOGLE

We have an overwhelming amount of data: more than 4 years' worth of posts (over  10,000 posts!) from 200+ Forum members, and an additional 200 POIS sufferers found elsewhere on the Internet by Member B_Jim.

In the Google search box, type
whatever-it-is-you're-interested-in-finding-out[space]POIS[space]site:http://thenakedscientists.com/

for example, I tried
nocturnal emission POIS site:http://thenakedscientists.com/

and 740 results came up for "nocturnal emission" within the Forum.

be careful with spaces (you can use them before the word "site") and no-spaces (everything after the word "site")

Google even provides you results with the Message# for each result. But Message #'s do change, so be patient and look for the approximate Message#.




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« Reply #13663 on: 14/06/2011 19:50:19 »

This time i think i have overdone it cause its the 9th day today and still its not totally recovered....and this time my i have a new symptom..my right flickers all the time... and i fell so stressed..am planning to go for a single O tonight..i think it will solve the problem..and i will recover fully in the normal time that is around 4-5days...


Eyes that flicker could be caused by stress.


Yes, Van, I currently have that same problem. My ophthalmologist says it's stress-related and can go on for months. He said it happened to him for a year and a half when he was going through his own divorce. So I'm trying to stay married, but it's still flickering!
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« Reply #13664 on: 15/06/2011 01:04:53 »
hi vandemolen as i told u today is the 10th morning and last night i had a single O and today i am out of it...i am feeling so good...

Bitu8489 - I don't get it.  I've NEVER relieved myself of POIS by having an O.  Did I understand that correctly - You had multiple Os in a night, which caused a terrible bout.  So 9 days later you had a single O which made you feel better - Is that right?  Anyone else ever experience something similar?  If that's true perhaps that lends credence to the regeneration theory - as maybe with 1 O you're re-dialing some biofeedback mechanism on how the regeneration process takes place.  Just a craaaazy off the wall thought.  Might make no sense.
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« Reply #13665 on: 15/06/2011 01:47:08 »
Hmm, interesting observation here.  So I really did not want to go into pois, but I felt really stimulated from some porn so i tried to masturbate as long as I could without ejaculating.  When I eventually did, very little sperm came out even though I have been abstaining for like a week.  This was because I tried to squeeze my muscles when I climaxed, trying to stop it.  I repeated this same technique two more times throughout the day.  What's interesting, is the next day my pois symptoms were dramatically reduced.  I never learned anything about ejaculating spermless, but it seems like I might have achieved it partially.  I on my day 2 and definitely notice less pois symptoms, maybe about 30% left.  I'm not sure if I can replicate this technique, but it seem spermless ejaculation may be a solution.  I know my pois is not just placebo because I am a gamer and can easily notice changes in my performance.

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« Reply #13666 on: 15/06/2011 03:06:49 »
Been dying for 2 weeks.  Strong strong allergies from yard work and too much ejaculation.  Can't resist, can't sleep, can't think, can't breathe, I'm doomed.  POIS + asthma like systems is the worst thing ever.

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« Reply #13667 on: 15/06/2011 03:26:35 »
What is this uncomfortable feeling in head while having POIS? How to get rid of it?

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« Reply #13668 on: 15/06/2011 03:56:46 »
It's brain fog mer, near impossible to get rid off other then napping or sleeping.

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« Reply #13669 on: 15/06/2011 04:17:34 »
What is this uncomfortable feeling in head while having POIS? How to get rid of it?
I've found that an intense workout helps me get rid of some of my brain fog.

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« Reply #13670 on: 15/06/2011 06:57:31 »
What is this uncomfortable feeling in head while having POIS? How to get rid of it?
I've found that an intense workout helps me get rid of some of my brain fog.

true, sometimes it backfires though and I am even more tired then before.  But yeh, the extra oxygen to the brain can give a couple hours of relief for sure.

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« Reply #13671 on: 15/06/2011 11:33:43 »
Bitu8489 - I don't get it.  I've NEVER relieved myself of POIS by having an O.  Did I understand that correctly - You had multiple Os in a night, which caused a terrible bout.  So 9 days later you had a single O which made you feel better - Is that right?  Anyone else ever experience something similar?  If that's true perhaps that lends credence to the regeneration theory - as maybe with 1 O you're re-dialing some biofeedback mechanism on how the regeneration process takes place.  Just a craaaazy off the wall thought.  Might make no sense.
Maybe his POIS is not so worse as mine. When I have moren then 1 O. in a day I know that I will be sick for 1 or 2 weeks. So I don't. For me counts: the more O.'s I have in a week the more POIS. So I try not to have an O. when I am in POIS. So my body can heal from the allergy. By this strategy my POIS normally stays for 4 days.

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« Reply #13672 on: 15/06/2011 13:43:48 »
I think a lot of us have muscle and joint pain. But I think that's only partially to blame to POIS. I think the muscle and joint pain is also caused because of mast. too long. When you stay in 1 position for a long time that's not good for your muscles and joints.

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« Reply #13673 on: 15/06/2011 14:58:39 »




BIG THANKS to Martin88 for completing the extraction of 325 usernames from this forum today!

All names will be mailed a plea to donate to our NORD-POIS Research Fund!


I think it's also important that all the members of TNS forum who have POIS know about the new website. With more members we can find sponsors to help us in the POIS-fund. So I think it's good to send them an email and invite them to the new forum. A lot of members don't post anymore, but the probably still have POIS.

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« Reply #13674 on: 15/06/2011 15:33:33 »
hi vandemolen as i told u today is the 10th morning and last night i had a single O and today i am out of it...i am feeling so good...

Bitu8489 - I don't get it.  I've NEVER relieved myself of POIS by having an O.  Did I understand that correctly - You had multiple Os in a night, which caused a terrible bout.  So 9 days later you had a single O which made you feel better - Is that right?  Anyone else ever experience something similar?  If that's true perhaps that lends credence to the regeneration theory - as maybe with 1 O you're re-dialing some biofeedback mechanism on how the regeneration process takes place.  Just a craaaazy off the wall thought.  Might make no sense.
hi b daniel it had happened to me before also twice i had these multiple O's in a single day and my POis will stay on as if its for ever and then i feeling irritated i just had a single O after almost 8-10 days when i was sure that my testes are fully filled and the ejaculation should be powerful which makes you feel ya something just was released with force from your testes that O made me feel better and i was normal again...

 

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