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« Reply #14500 on: 01/09/2011 06:11:47 »
Also, I'd like to see a study of normal men injected with their own semen.  Because if we can approve that 100% of normal non-pois men do not flare up after having a skin ***** test, and over 90% of us do, that is some useful information and would definitely persuade me that an allergy to semen is what can be causing all of this havoc and instability.

Yeah we all would love to see that!  Over the weekend gather up 50 guys and tell them you are going to inject them with their own semen... or if that proves difficult, an easier way would be to donate to NORD... bc that'll likey be the 1st thing the researcher does :)

To answer your question on why we can't cure ourselves through enough sexual activity although desensitization does.... it's because your body reacts allergically to the semen.  Only when your semen is very highly diluted can the body figure out how to defend against it.  The dilution is lowered each time you receive a desensitization treatment until eventually the body can fight the semen at full strength.

Lastly, you wrote that your POIS only lasts a day now, compared to 2 weeks a while back.  I must have missed your posts where you explained what you did that has helped your pois.  Can you re-explain pls?

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« Reply #14501 on: 01/09/2011 08:29:20 »
So does that just about settle the fact that this is an allergy rather than a 'Mental' thing?
 

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« Reply #14502 on: 01/09/2011 15:26:15 »
Hello Itsthatskater and Everyone,

There is just no question -- NONE!! POIS is not caused by a psychiatric problem, too much masturbating, too much porn, blah, blah, blah!! 

I know that I am not the expert -- this is certain!! But it's obvious (should be blatantly obvious!) that the psychiatric/emotional wounds that accompany POIS (including that horrible "brain fog") is a result, not the cause, of POIS.

I would list for you just a sampling of disorders, both rare and common, where awful psychiatric symptoms are part of the presentation of the REAL physical disorder. But that list would be so long that it would be a waste of space and your time.

Obviously part of the depression and despair that accompanies POIS is the direct result of the isolation and the utter need for drastic altering of life style that POIS requires.  However -- that's a normal reaction!! Humans are naturally meant to be sexual creatures -- how else would the species survive if not for sex!!??

It's possible that some with POIS also watch quite a bit of porn. Means NOTHING (unless it's getting in the way of your life, job, etc).

I hope I haven't come on too strong here or offended anyone.  POIS is a physical condition --and a GENUINE NIGHTMARE that most of the public does not yet even know about. You men have got to do what you can to change that lack of awareness.

Keep the research donations coming in!!!  That's where your answer lies -- in basic, solid research.  $5.00, or $5,000 -- every single dollar is PRECIOUS and will bring you all one step closer to the end of POIS suffering!





So does that just about settle the fact that this is an allergy rather than a 'Mental' thing?
So does that just about settle the fact that this is an allergy rather than a 'Mental' thing?
So does that just about settle the fact that this is an allergy rather than a 'Mental' thing?
 

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« Reply #14503 on: 01/09/2011 15:28:52 »
Hm, I am still asking why a previously known allergic reaction to semen in both men and women has never been connected with symptoms most of us experience, until now.

Does it mean other sufferers with reactions like itching, hives and even anaphylaxis experience different type of allergy than we do?
 

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« Reply #14504 on: 01/09/2011 16:50:50 »

So does that just about settle the fact that this is an allergy rather than a 'Mental' thing?


Allergy: not yet settled

Mental: settled! POIS is N O T 'Mental'!!!!!!!

Thank you for closing that chapter of The Book Of POIS.
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« Reply #14505 on: 01/09/2011 16:55:41 »


Hello Itsthatskater and Everyone,

There is just no question -- NONE!! POIS is not caused by a psychiatric problem, too much masturbating, too much porn, blah, blah, blah!! 

I know that I am not the expert -- this is certain!! But it's obvious (should be blatantly obvious!) that the psychiatric/emotional wounds that accompany POIS (including that horrible "brain fog") is a result, not the cause, of POIS.

I would list for you just a sampling of disorders, both rare and common, where awful psychiatric symptoms are part of the presentation of the REAL physical disorder. But that list would be so long that it would be a waste of space and your time.

Obviously part of the depression and despair that accompanies POIS is the direct result of the isolation and the utter need for drastic altering of life style that POIS requires.  However -- that's a normal reaction!! Humans are naturally meant to be sexual creatures -- how else would the species survive if not for sex!!??

It's possible that some with POIS also watch quite a bit of porn. Means NOTHING (unless it's getting in the way of your life, job, etc).

I hope I haven't come on too strong here or offended anyone.  POIS is a physical condition --and a GENUINE NIGHTMARE that most of the public does not yet even know about. You men have got to do what you can to change that lack of awareness.

Keep the research donations coming in!!!  That's where your answer lies -- in basic, solid research.  $5.00, or $5,000 -- every single dollar is PRECIOUS and will bring you all one step closer to the end of POIS suffering!





So does that just about settle the fact that this is an allergy rather than a 'Mental' thing?
So does that just about settle the fact that this is an allergy rather than a 'Mental' thing?
So does that just about settle the fact that this is an allergy rather than a 'Mental' thing?

ONCE AGAIN, STEFANIE, I JUST CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOUR DESPERATELY NEEDED INPUT HERE!!!



 

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« Reply #14506 on: 01/09/2011 17:44:17 »
I tried 200mg niacin and the flush was way worse than 300mg xanthinol nicotinate, but what scared me was the way it spiked my heart rate. 
I will advice people to try xanthinol nicotinate instead of niacin if they are going to try niacin start low and build up.  My heart rate level was once again scary.
 

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« Reply #14507 on: 01/09/2011 18:54:03 »



CC, many thanks for your very valuable input!


 

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« Reply #14508 on: 01/09/2011 21:03:05 »
Just a reminder...

Our new POIS Forum - architectural genius: "daveman" - for detailed subject-by-subject discussion!
http://www.POISCenter.com/forums/index.php

Our 4-year-old POIS thread here at Naked Science Forum will also always remain open for newcomers, for general unstructured discussion, and historical research of the 10,000+ postings here since 2007.


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« Reply #14509 on: 01/09/2011 21:21:14 »
Yeah we all would love to see that!  Over the weekend gather up 50 guys and tell them you are going to inject them with their own semen...

Sounds like a joke right?  But that'd make me a believer.

Lastly, you wrote that your POIS only lasts a day now, compared to 2 weeks a while back.  I must have missed your posts where you explained what you did that has helped your pois.  Can you re-explain pls?

I can say that general sexual abstinence would be the #1 culprit into healing me to only a day.  And sometimes I don't even get POIS after an orgasm.  Other times I do though and can definitely feel it.  I would say when I do get it it lasts anywhere from 12-18 hours for my brain to "adjust".  Today I O'd twice and currently have no POIS mental symptoms.  But it is so much better than living with a 2 week pois.  id say 25x better.  I test out random things also, mainly foods, no drugs.  This week I've been trying out jalapenos :o  But I can't really single it out to a single thing, because I've actually dealt with POIS for about 3 years and tried many concoctions.  I think just being as abstinent as possible for those 3 years has really helped in reducing the symptoms.  I have "O'd" on average about once every week and a half.  I also try to eat healthy have good hygiene... you know the general "health".  I try to sleep on time but lately i have not.

My theory is either hormonal or allergy.  I've said that i have had POIS ever since I had gotten acne... but others say they have no acne and still have pois  [:-'(]                [:o)]
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« Reply #14510 on: 01/09/2011 21:32:17 »
Hello Itsthatskater and Everyone,

There is just no question -- NONE!! POIS is not caused by a psychiatric problem, too much masturbating, too much porn, blah, blah, blah!! 

I know that I am not the expert -- this is certain!! But it's obvious (should be blatantly obvious!) that the psychiatric/emotional wounds that accompany POIS (including that horrible "brain fog") is a result, not the cause, of POIS.

I would list for you just a sampling of disorders, both rare and common, where awful psychiatric symptoms are part of the presentation of the REAL physical disorder. But that list would be so long that it would be a waste of space and your time.

Obviously part of the depression and despair that accompanies POIS is the direct result of the isolation and the utter need for drastic altering of life style that POIS requires.  However -- that's a normal reaction!! Humans are naturally meant to be sexual creatures -- how else would the species survive if not for sex!!??

It's possible that some with POIS also watch quite a bit of porn. Means NOTHING (unless it's getting in the way of your life, job, etc).

I hope I haven't come on too strong here or offended anyone.  POIS is a physical condition --and a GENUINE NIGHTMARE that most of the public does not yet even know about. You men have got to do what you can to change that lack of awareness.

Keep the research donations coming in!!!  That's where your answer lies -- in basic, solid research.  $5.00, or $5,000 -- every single dollar is PRECIOUS and will bring you all one step closer to the end of POIS suffering!





So does that just about settle the fact that this is an allergy rather than a 'Mental' thing?
So does that just about settle the fact that this is an allergy rather than a 'Mental' thing?
So does that just about settle the fact that this is an allergy rather than a 'Mental' thing?

Exactly, POIS is not in the head.  I have friends who watch porn daily and who "O" 3x daily and they do not have POIS.  Porn has nothing to do with it, only adds guilt if it does anything.  POIS is not a "guilty" feeling or a wrong way of thinking, its some sort of physical reaction within the brain that causes you to behave the way you do and feel the way you do.  Its the result that accompanies our orgasm, which is very terrible.  It's just not a "thinkable" disease.  Just like a stomach virus is not in your head, its in your stomach, literally, the same for POIS.
 

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« Reply #14511 on: 01/09/2011 21:45:34 »



Using advanced photogrammetric techniques, the CIA recently donated to this forum a composite pictograph of the POIS sufferer (in POIS)!!! A rare research find!!
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« Reply #14512 on: 01/09/2011 23:47:37 »
Here's one from Yahoo! from our very own Vincent Marcus!
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110829161941AAQBF9J

Open Question: Has anyone used chaste berry (Vitex) to reduce their sex drive?

Did it work? I have post orgasmic illness syndrome and after every orgasm (yes even including nocturnal emissions...) I am in physical/mental pain for days so I really need to find a way to reduce my frequency of orgasms.

Asked by  Vincent Marcus 3 days ago 1 day left to answer.
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« Reply #14513 on: 02/09/2011 00:14:42 »
So, today i tried again 100mg Niacin and i had an O. 1 hour later. I was afraid to try 200mg because first i want to be comfortable with 100mg. I noticed a flush in my ears.

Niacin seemed to help with my scalp tenderness and headache after the O. This time my worst symptom was my stomach area. It's in the left abdomen, and immediately after having an O. it gets bloated and hurts. It's like having an stomach migraine or "abdominal migraine". I hate it  >:(

Can anyone confirm this abdominal pain and bloating? Specially in the left area?
 

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« Reply #14514 on: 02/09/2011 04:13:25 »
Here's one from Yahoo! from our very own Vincent Marcus!
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110829161941AAQBF9J

Open Question: Has anyone used chaste berry (Vitex) to reduce their sex drive?

Did it work? I have post orgasmic illness syndrome and after every orgasm (yes even including nocturnal emissions...) I am in physical/mental pain for days so I really need to find a way to reduce my frequency of orgasms.

Asked by  Vincent Marcus 3 days ago 1 day left to answer.
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VM - before I found the POIS website, I thought my shitty feeling after orgasm was caused by too much Prolactin.  So I started taking Vitex.  I took it for about a month.  I can't recall if it had any effect on my sex drive, but it did not help my pois as far as I could tell. 

Saw Palmetto did help reduce my sex drive.  As long as I did not miss a day of taking the pill, my urges reduced SIGNIFICANTLY.  Give that a try and let us know if it helps. 
« Last Edit: 02/09/2011 04:22:53 by B_Daniel »
 

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« Reply #14515 on: 02/09/2011 04:29:38 »
Does anyone, when recovering from POIS, get a really bad migraine that feels like brain juice is going back into the head. 

Does anyone elses stool become softer/bloody at times when on POIS? 

Does anyone else get whiteheads when on POIS pretty much without fail?

Just the symptoms I get that I haven't read anyone else have.

 
 

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« Reply #14516 on: 02/09/2011 08:16:12 »
Does anyone, when recovering from POIS, get a really bad migraine that feels like brain juice is going back into the head.  

When I do get POIS, that's sort of how it is.  I become all hot/irritable, feels like my brain is filtering something from the back of my head than towards the front.
 

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« Reply #14517 on: 02/09/2011 13:29:19 »
I've taken ginkgo biloba pills three times recently and I've noticed mild improvement in concentration and mental energy the hours following taking the pills. Each time I was about ready to take a nap to fend off my mental exhaustion, but after taking the pills I was able to stay awake for the remaining hours and fall asleep with no trouble at my usual bed time. I feel it may have had a slight anxiety-reducing effect as well.

The first time I took a single 120mg pill around late noon and the only thing I noticed was that I didn't feel tired anymore. The second time I took three 120mg pills and 2 hrs later I easily noticed an improvement in my ability to focus as well as slightly reduced anxiety, however I also noticed a faint swelling feeling in my head as if I had a small headache although it was painless. The third time I took two pills and noticed the same effects, but with less of the odd swelling feeling. There were a few days in between each trial. Also I'm still taking fenugreek + garlic every morning.

Next I'll try a single pill again to see if I missed the other positive effects the first time. I'll report back to let you guys know if repeated trials yield the same results for me.
How much time does niacin work before you got back to your POIS state ?
And you're taking niacin during your constant POIS state (far from O), isn't it ?
Good luck.
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« Reply #14518 on: 02/09/2011 16:01:42 »
Saw Palmetto did help reduce my sex drive.  As long as I did not miss a day of taking the pill, my urges reduced SIGNIFICANTLY.  Give that a try and let us know if it helps. 

I've been taking one 540mg saw palmetto capsule the last three days. I've noticed that my testicles are larger and less tender also having bowel movements is much less painful (since usually my anus is very sore, may have hemorrhoids) and my urethra isn't sore after taking the pill in the morning.

I can't tell yet if it has reduced my sex drive, but I'll keep my eye out for it.
 

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« Reply #14519 on: 02/09/2011 17:12:34 »
@apostate801 & Quasar:
I recognise the swelling in abdominal area in pois. Also creation of gas.
Also softer stools & itching, eczema and psoriasis in the an*s area, which has in the past lead to (little) bleeding as well. So, the blood is actually from the skin at the a*us area and then hits the stool. Please check this. Blood in the stool can mean big trouble like cancer, so if you feel uncomfortable see a doctor about this. Also when your skin is bleeding you can see a dermatologist, Mine gave me hydrocortisone cream to heal the skin at the a*us area (it didn't heal out of pois, so needed the medication).

I've had migraines in the past on day 4 /5, but very rare (very minor symptom). I think this was caused by dehydration (I also get dry skin and increased thirst in pois).
Thankfully no whiteheads (just looked up a pic on the internet), but I've seen very small red spots in POIS (very minor symptom).
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« Reply #14520 on: 02/09/2011 17:40:11 »
People,

please don't forget there is another pois-forum (supported and created by this community), where we can discuss in topics (instead of in one long thread).

http://www.poiscenter.com/forums/index.php

Please have a look.

Rocky
 

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« Reply #14521 on: 02/09/2011 19:45:11 »

People,

please don't forget there is another pois-forum (supported and created by this community), where we can discuss in topics (instead of in one long thread).

http://www.poiscenter.com/forums/index.php

Please have a look.

Rocky



Thanks, Rocky!!
 

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« Reply #14522 on: 02/09/2011 19:59:41 »
Is Vandemolen still around? I haven't read any posts from him in a while... especially interesting are his updates on the desensitization he was getting at Dr Waldinger's!
 

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« Reply #14523 on: 02/09/2011 20:01:44 »
A question to the veterans on this forum:

can we dismiss POIS as not being a sort of candida/yeast infection??
 

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« Reply #14524 on: 02/09/2011 20:16:32 »
"Niacin-induced “Flush” Involves Release of Prostaglandin D2
from Mast Cells and Serotonin from Platelets: Evidence
from Human Cells in Vitro and an Animal Model"

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/327/3/665.full.pdf

Seems interesting !
 

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