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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #16100 on: 17/04/2012 20:26:07 »
who thinks that can be an allergic reaction to semen?

anyone had Waldinger study?

i live with that pain for so long and i wanna try everything :/

thank's for your help
 

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« Reply #16101 on: 17/04/2012 20:26:46 »
Hey guys. Hope you are all doing well in your endeavors.

Niacin has helped me a great de over the past few months. And with the additions or spirinula, vitamin c, vma and a few minerals I have been able to grt back to work. My POIs is constant and worst within the first few days, but eith these supplements I have been able to work even the day after orgasm. I need about 400 mg niacin to feel a flush without food, I take about 1000 mg of spirulina and 1000 mg of chlorella, and 1000 of vitamin c right after orgasm and the next day.I have been capable of working and working hard for the past few months. Recently, though, I feel as though the symptoms are coming back. The supplements seem to have become less and less effective over time even though I am hardly having an orgasm once a week. The fatigue, confusion, and hot flashes are coming back and I'm not sure what to do. I don't know hownpossible it is to have built a tolerance to these medications. Really having a difficult time. I would be willing to hear any suggestions you guys may have.

Thanks,

Jon.
Hi Jon, You might need to schedule some time off and have a dumb-ass supplement-free week :)
Another thing I noticed. I'm not sure I can handle all the pyroxidine form b6 in ZMA. Too much b6 and you can't effectively convert it to p5p and the build-up can actually lead to POIS like symptoms. I've cut it out in favour of taking specific zinc, magnesium and p5p supplements every second day. Some extra manganese is useful too.
 

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« Reply #16102 on: 17/04/2012 20:46:07 »
I know that the knee pain is caused by POIS, because one time I performed an experiment in which I thought exercising immediately after I ejaculated would somehow ease my symptoms, but instead what happened is I developed a very gruesome feeling of pain in both areas of my knees that felt as if whatever tendons or ligaments in that area or I guess connective tissues were beginning to tear. It terrified me so much that ever since then I made sure I got at least 1 to 2 hrs bed rest after every ejaculation. Within a few days my knees were back to normal. This is the same feeling I get in my knees now all the time, but to a somewhat lesser degree.

Before and after that experiment, which was during a time I had no treatments available, every time I ejaculated and for some reason had to walk perhaps to do some chore I remember my knees would always hurt, but not quite as badly as they do now. When I found the treatments from this forum my knee pain went away completely.

Now not only has my knee pain returned despite continuing the same treatement regimen, but all of my POIS symptoms have gotten worse as well. It's possible that the effexor, the betaine hcl, and the klonopin had something to do with this worsening of my symptoms or it's possible that my POIS is getting worse by itself over time.

I will mention the knee pain to my doctor, but I'm sure he won't find anything even if he orders an MRI, because I have the same kind of pain in my back from POIS and it is still there despite going to doctors about it and getting an MRI and X-Ray that showed nothing. I'm pretty sure the damage to my knees is connective tissue damage like in my back, which doesn't show up on tests. I know my back pain is from POIS too, because when I was at college and accidently had an ejaculation before I had a class the pain in my upper back from sitting in a chair was excruciating. It felt like whichever muscles or ligaments that were attached to my spine were being torn away from my spine just by sitting in a chair. If I managed to go a week without an ejaculation I would have no back pain at all.

I do agree that it is a good thing to do to think carefully about whether a symptom is caused by POIS or not so as to treat it properly.

I have never had knee pain in POIS but after ejaculation I have always had a change in the way my knees feel, I notice a definite change.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #16103 on: 17/04/2012 20:48:31 »
Hi finally i got xantinol nicotinate tablet in my area. One tablet is 150mg. How many tablets i require to take. At what time . And in empty stomach or with food. Please help.
Hi Nathan,
1. I think you need 3 tablets, e.g. 450mg in total of XN (thats my dose, my dose for pure Niacin is 150mg and I think its average among the people on this forum). I recommend you to start from one tablet and see if your body reacts okay on it. After that increase dose to two and the next time to 3 tablets. When you will take 3 tablets you can try having an O.
2. You need to wait at least 1 hour after taking tablets and before O. More generally you need to feel the flush and then feel that its gone and only after that have an O.
3. You need to take tablets on empty stomach. This way tablets will be absorbed better and faster.
4. Of course you need to check with your doctor if this is okay for you to take this medications in these dozes. I'm not a doctor. I'm telling you just my experience which might be not suited for YOUR case. So, do it, consult with your doctor first.

Hope this helps,
Victor
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« Reply #16104 on: 17/04/2012 20:58:03 »
Hello All (and a Special Hello to Vincent Marcus),

I’m going out on on a limb here by weighing in on the psychiatric diagnoses made by so many doctors whom many of you have encountered – the ones who have told you that POIS is a psychiatric condition, that it's psychiatric in origin.

I think that this statement by any physician regarding POIS should ALWAYS serve as a “red flag”.  High-tail it out of there and don’t look back!


POIS obviously can cause major depression and anxiety, as can any on-going, life-altering condition, rare or not. POIS may also cause other psychiatric symptoms –  OCD-type symptoms, maybe even delusions.

But emotional/psychiatric issues do not cause POIS. They also don’t cause severe and obvious eye inflammation, incapacitating knee pain, burning skin, etc.

I think you all need to firmly agree (if you don't, already) – hands down, no exceptions – that whether it’s a “top POIS expert” (there are none, FYI) or a loving, well-meaning but very worried parent –  POIS IS NOT A PSYCHIATRIC ILLNESS -- despite the horrendous psychiatric symptoms that it can cause.

It is a SAD BUT TRUE FACT that with an unusual disorder that has not been researched  -- when the “experts” can’t make a diagnosis -- the person is inevitably advised that it’s a psychiatric problem.   Psych meds frequently are prescribed, and the person frequently feels even worse from those meds! I'm basing this on what I hear from people who contact NORD, day after day.

(Psych meds can save lives – I don’t want to sound anti-psychiatric medication!)

I have an absolutely favorite story to share with you about one patient who contacted NORD around three years ago -- Robin Akbar.

(Her story has appeared on NORD's website, on television for the Mystery Diagnosis show that we referred her to, and in a few magazine articles also. So I am not breaching patient confidentiality with a story that has already gone very public.)
 
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Great points nordnurse. A friend of mine was eventually diagnosed with thyroid cancer. They had the tumour removed and had chemo. They're in remission but before they were diagnosed and successfully treated they saw 5 different specialists for fatigue related issues, each one coming to the conclusion that it was "all in their head". This took several years and the misdiagnoses of the other doctors almost killed my friend as the tumour was growing rapidly when it was removed.
The "all in your head" diagnosis might be reasonable after doctors have diagnosed and treated several possible illnesses with indicative symptoms. Other than that, it's just lazy and possibly dangerous. That's not to say that there isn't a psychological component to illnesses as many doctor's have observed that a positive attitude and disposition helps with recovery from many life threatening illnesses, with the correct treatment of course.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #16105 on: 17/04/2012 22:19:27 »
who thinks that can be an allergic reaction to semen?

anyone had Waldinger study?I

i live with that pain for so long and i wanna try everything :/

thank's for your help

I just emailed you Waldinger's published results.
 

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« Reply #16106 on: 17/04/2012 22:30:57 »
Guys,

My eyes are once again becoming light sensitive and they refuse to open fully until about halfway through the day. There is a pressure in my head that may be causing this but not sure if it's pressure or just weakness. I once again have mild groin area discomfort and I am fatigued with a few hot flashes. My slowed thinking and unalertness is also creeping back with each recent orgasm. Does anyone have a treatment regimend that covers these things? I have been taking niacin and a few months and other supplements but they have recently become less effective over the past month or two and my symptoms are creeping back in.

I appreciate your time.
 

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« Reply #16107 on: 17/04/2012 22:32:16 »
Also, I have been losing track of the time of the day, and also am forgetting things I need to do. I find myself staring blankly at times.
 

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« Reply #16108 on: 17/04/2012 23:08:46 »
Guys,

My eyes are once again becoming light sensitive and they refuse to open fully until about halfway through the day. There is a pressure in my head that may be causing this but not sure if it's pressure or just weakness. I once again have mild groin area discomfort and I am fatigued with a few hot flashes. My slowed thinking and unalertness is also creeping back with each recent orgasm. Does anyone have a treatment regimend that covers these things? I have been taking niacin and a few months and other supplements but they have recently become less effective over the past month or two and my symptoms are creeping back in.

I appreciate your time.

Anti-inflammatory diet: blueberries, sweet potatoe, garlic, etc. I recommend eating such foods before and after orgasm, it worked for me.
 

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« Reply #16109 on: 17/04/2012 23:13:25 »
Demo this must be your full time job now! Do you tell people you moderate for a living? I am in awe and appreciative of your efforts, amongst others. For all of you who step up dedicate so much time and effort to this cause thank you.
 

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« Reply #16110 on: 18/04/2012 00:27:11 »
Awww, John, tanks! <blush>
 

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« Reply #16111 on: 18/04/2012 03:12:35 »
Good Night people,
At first I want to ask sorry for my bad english... I am brasilian.

Yesterday I discover this Forum. You couldn't Know my happiness after that. I'm suffering about POIS about five years. When start I stay a lot of time in the internet looking for what could be because all the doctors said that what I have doesn't exist. And now I have the certainty that I'm not alone in the world.

I read some post in the Forum about what can be used to improve our POIS but I don't know if you are in a best ou worst position than me. My POIS start five years ago, when I was 20 years. My two first years I couldn't live. I stay all the time in my home and I always feel terrible and with the sensation I couldn't control my acts. Because the doctors said that my disease doesn't exist, I didn't explain my problem to the doctors. In some times even I think my problem must be other. So I went in a lot of throat specialistm because I have always sore throat because of POIS. And then, after I use a lot of anti-allergics, I found one that change my life. My POIS didn't over, I cotinue with a lot of sore throat, but the medicinal improve a lot my POIS. I ejaculate at the night, I use the medician, I have the symptoms of POSI, but in the next morning, after I get up, I have almost no symptoms.

The name the medicinal in Brasil is Nasonex (I don't Know if in other countries have the same name). The active substance is Mometasona.

I don't know if my improve in symptons is bigger than yours with other medicinal, but I think you must try.

Other thing: I want try other things with nasonex, because I always have sore throat, what do you think is the best you tried? I like the ideia of patches of testorene because it seem to me two tottally differents ways of improve symtoms e may be adittionals... What do you think?

Other time: Sorry for my english...
 

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« Reply #16112 on: 18/04/2012 03:56:22 »
Good Night people,
At first I want to ask sorry for my bad english... I am brasilian.

Yesterday I discover this Forum. You couldn't Know my happiness after that. I'm suffering about POIS about five years. When start I stay a lot of time in the internet looking for what could be because all the doctors said that what I have doesn't exist. And now I have the certainty that I'm not alone in the world.

I read some post in the Forum about what can be used to improve our POIS but I don't know if you are in a best ou worst position than me. My POIS start five years ago, when I was 20 years. My two first years I couldn't live. I stay all the time in my home and I always feel terrible and with the sensation I couldn't control my acts. Because the doctors said that my disease doesn't exist, I didn't explain my problem to the doctors. In some times even I think my problem must be other. So I went in a lot of throat specialistm because I have always sore throat because of POIS. And then, after I use a lot of anti-allergics, I found one that change my life. My POIS didn't over, I cotinue with a lot of sore throat, but the medicinal improve a lot my POIS. I ejaculate at the night, I use the medician, I have the symptoms of POSI, but in the next morning, after I get up, I have almost no symptoms.

The name the medicinal in Brasil is Nasonex (I don't Know if in other countries have the same name). The active substance is Mometasona.

I don't know if my improve in symptons is bigger than yours with other medicinal, but I think you must try.

Other thing: I want try other things with nasonex, because I always have sore throat, what do you think is the best you tried? I like the ideia of patches of testorene because it seem to me two tottally differents ways of improve symtoms e may be adittionals... What do you think?

Other time: Sorry for my english...


Hi, like you, I also in the initial two or three years suffered a lot from Sore throat after POIS period.  The frequency is 8 to 10 throat infections in 2 months.  I remember I have taken antibiotics continuously for 2 months.  But Throat infections was not cured completely.  It was repeating. Then I tried herbal medicines to cure throat infection.  The best one I found id Septilin tablet manufactured by Himalaya.  After taking this herbal tablet for 15 days, I no more affected to sore throat as a result of POIS.  I just checked Himalayan website, they have given that they have presence in Brazil.  By chance if you not found this product in your area, then copy down the herbals used in this product from Himalaya website for Septilin and check with other brands of similar composition in your area.  Other than this Azadirachta indica's leaf powder is a good remedy for throat infection. This Azadirachta indica is a     
     * anti-bacterial
    * anti-viral
    * anti-septic
    * anti-diabetic
    * anti-fungal
    * blood-purifying
    * spermicidal

I just checked the what you have mentioned as remedy for POIS "Nasonex".  Sore throat is one of the side effects of using Nasonex as per vendors's website.  You might need to reduce this to overcome from Sore throat.  Even though it is not solved, then use the above herbal remedies, definitely you have a solution there.
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« Reply #16113 on: 18/04/2012 04:14:37 »
Good Night people,
At first I want to ask sorry for my bad english... I am brasilian.

Yesterday I discover this Forum. You couldn't Know my happiness after that. I'm suffering about POIS about five years. When start I stay a lot of time in the internet looking for what could be because all the doctors said that what I have doesn't exist. And now I have the certainty that I'm not alone in the world.

I read some post in the Forum about what can be used to improve our POIS but I don't know if you are in a best ou worst position than me. My POIS start five years ago, when I was 20 years. My two first years I couldn't live. I stay all the time in my home and I always feel terrible and with the sensation I couldn't control my acts. Because the doctors said that my disease doesn't exist, I didn't explain my problem to the doctors. In some times even I think my problem must be other. So I went in a lot of throat specialistm because I have always sore throat because of POIS. And then, after I use a lot of anti-allergics, I found one that change my life. My POIS didn't over, I cotinue with a lot of sore throat, but the medicinal improve a lot my POIS. I ejaculate at the night, I use the medician, I have the symptoms of POSI, but in the next morning, after I get up, I have almost no symptoms.

The name the medicinal in Brasil is Nasonex (I don't Know if in other countries have the same name). The active substance is Mometasona.

I don't know if my improve in symptons is bigger than yours with other medicinal, but I think you must try.

Other thing: I want try other things with nasonex, because I always have sore throat, what do you think is the best you tried? I like the ideia of patches of testorene because it seem to me two tottally differents ways of improve symtoms e may be adittionals... What do you think?

Other time: Sorry for my english...


Hi, like you, I also in the initial two or three years suffered a lot from Sore throat after POIS period.  The frequency is 8 to 10 throat infections in 2 months.  I remember I have taken antibiotics continuously for 2 months.  But Throat infections was not cured completely.  It was repeating. Then I tried herbal medicines to cure throat infection.  The best one I found id Septilin tablet manufactured by Himalaya.  After taking this herbal tablet for 15 days, I no more affected to sore throat as a result of POIS.  I just checked Himalayan website, they have given that they have presence in Brazil.  By chance if you not found this product in your area, then copy down the herbals used in this product from Himalaya website for Septilin and check with other brands of similar composition in your area.  Other than this Azadirachta indica's leaf powder is a good remedy for throat infection. This Azadirachta indica is a     
     * anti-bacterial
    * anti-viral
    * anti-septic
    * anti-diabetic
    * anti-fungal
    * blood-purifying
    * spermicidal

I just checked the what you have mentioned as remedy for POIS "Nasonex".  Sore throat is one of the side effects of using Nasonex as per vendors's website.  You might need to reduce this to overcome from Sore throat.  Even though it is not solved, then use the above herbal remedies, definitely you have a solution there.

Yes, Nasonex have this effects but for me, because of the improve in POIS, the sore throat improve a lot too. I will try this things you indicate... If then works and I don't have more sore throats, I will have a live almost normal. Thank you...
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #16114 on: 18/04/2012 04:19:40 »
fidalgo, Vasian1980, and napkynbass, welcome to the POIS thread of The Naked Science Forum!  We believe that 2012 is POIS' Breakthrough Year! We hope to launch serious POIS Medical Research! A great time to be here!



**(If you have any technical questions, please feel free to PM (private message) Daveman or me -- or another forum member - - go towards the end of this welcome message (after the 5 available research articles are described) for instuctions on how to send PM. We'll be happy to explain!)***


If you haven't already done so, but would like to like to join the new forum,  send "daveman" a PM here at the Naked Science Forum.


Here are some POIS resources which may be helpful to you:

Click here to see Mat780's excellent YouTube POIS Channel!

Mat's YouTube videos include (1) our great new April 12 POIS TV Documentary! A must-see. And (2) The Learning Channel documentary, featuring our forum member "Animus"!

Click here to see The POIS reddit post!

Outsiders (non-POISers) spontaneously gifted NORD's POIS Research Grant $1,000+ from this reddit post. Thanks to "mellivora" and "CCconfucius"!!!

Our POIS chatroom (realtime chat). Invite or visit another member(s) there, ANY TIME. We can all get to know each other better:
Just click here first, and then look for "CHAT" button towards top of page, 4th button to your right!

Our new POIS Forum - architectural genius: "daveman" - for detailed subject-by-subject discussion!
http://www.POISCenter.com/forums/index.php
Our 5-year-old POIS thread here at Naked Science Forum will also always remain open for newcomers, for general unstructured discussion, and historical research of the 10,000+ postings here since 2007.

Our POIS Information Website, built by "mat780", is here:
http://sites.google.com/site/POISwebsite/

The POIS Information Website is home to the POIS Forum Compendium, written by "Pyropeach", and contains theories already discussed here and treatments that have both worked and failed.

Please see "B_Jim"'s POIS Summary of All Cases, here as well as others on the Web. This includes remedies that we have tested, and results.
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg149009#msg149009

"Girlwind" has created an excellent POIS Video:


Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome "POIS": Case report

Authors:
Abdalla M Attia*, Magda H Al-Ziny, Hossam A Yasien
*Corresponding author: Andrology Unit, Minoufiya University, Shibin El Kom, Eygpt

For more info, check out emi_b's  SMF POIS thread:
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=191.0;topicseen


POIS Research Studies available Upon Request:

1. and 2. POIS Research Studies, 2011

These 2 papers reveal Dr. Waldinger's POIS autoimmune hypothesis and suggest one possible avenue of treatment.

3. First POIS Research Study, 2002

We have a copy of the first formal medical investigation on POIS by Prof. dr. Marcel D. Waldinger,MD,PhD, and Dr. Dave Schweitzer, MD.

   
4. Recent POIS Research Study, 2010

CASE REPORT
Postorgasm Illness Syndrome - A Spectrum of Illnesses
Jane Ashby, MRCP, and David Goldmeier, MRCP
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg316781#msg316781


5. British Medical Journal Case Report, 2010

Case study by Dr. Selwyn Dexter of a patient with a headache-featured POIS symptom treated with progesterone/norethisterone.
http://casereports.bmj.com/content/2010/bcr.10.2009.2359.short?rss=1


How to get any or all of the above 5 studies: send me or "daveman" a Private Message (PM) with your regular email address (use "AT" instead of "@" ) and we'll send you back the PDF(s).

To send a Private Message, click on "My Messages" at the top of this page. Then click "Send Message". From that point on, it works just like posting a message here, except that it only goes to the person(s) you designate.


New York Times article,

January 20, 2009
Mind
Sex and Depression: In the Brain, if Not the Mind
By RICHARD A. FRIEDMAN, M.D.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/health/views/20mind.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=friedman%20sexual%20January%2020&st=cse

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In addition to serving our own informational interests, the resources listed above can be useful for you to show our credibility to the medical world - which often shows little understanding and is sometimes skeptical of our condition: POIS has scientific underpinnings and POIS is not "just another psychological problem" related to sex - to be treated by the psychiatric/psychotherapeutic community. All of this information can greatly help you to fight the immediate reaction of some doctors: so just tell them, "IT'S NOT 'ALL IN YOUR HEAD'! "


It can be very  helpful to you when dealing with medical professionals to point out the
POIS' official listing, as recognized by the
National Institutes for Health (NIH), Office of Rare Diseases Research
:


And in Europe: Orphanet now lists POIS on their website! - Click here!

POIS also appears in credible medical sources such as the Journal of Sexual Medicine (Dr. Waldinger's study), British Medical Journal and wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postorgasmic_illness_syndrome

For over 5 years, our POIS forum has attracted over 200 POIS sufferers worldwide who have posted here, research on an additional 200 sufferers elsewhere on the internet, plus our pages have been read nearly 2,000,000 times! Not bad for a rare malady!

Show some of this to your doctor - with pride! Chances are, YOU know FAR more about POIS than s/he does! Don't be intimidated by fancy diplomas. It's almost impossible for ANY one doctor to know much about POIS before you walk into his/her office. Unfortunately, it's up to YOU to educate THEM! And if you happen to find yourself with a disagreeable "student"-doctor (you're the teacher!), find another doctor. Quickly!

SEARCH THE FORUM WITH GOOGLE

We have an overwhelming amount of data: more than 5 years' worth of posts (over  10,000 posts!) from 200+ Forum members, and an additional 200 POIS sufferers found elsewhere on the Internet by Member B_Jim.

In the Google search box, type
whatever-it-is-you're-interested-in-finding-out[space]POIS[space]site:http://thenakedscientists.com/

for example, I tried
nocturnal emission POIS site:http://thenakedscientists.com/

and 740 results came up for "nocturnal emission" within the Forum.

be careful with spaces (you can use them before the word "site") and no-spaces (everything after the word "site")

Google even provides you results with the Message# for each result. But Message #'s do change, so be patient and look for the approximate Message#.



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« Reply #16115 on: 18/04/2012 04:23:17 »
Fidalgo, What do you mean by you could not control your acts? Are you saying that the medication you are taking is helping with your cognitive symptoms of POIS?
 

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« Reply #16116 on: 18/04/2012 04:48:19 »
Fidalgo, What do you mean by you could not control your acts? Are you saying that the medication you are taking is helping with your cognitive symptoms of POIS?

Yes, it helped me a lot. I don't know if best than the medications that the people of the Forum use (because I didn't try them yet), but Nasonex change my life in a way... I'm not healthy, I have lot of problems (the sore throat is the most), but it helped me a lot...

I have a doubt, some of you have stomacache problems because of POIS? I can't eat at night because I feel terrible if I eat before sleep (I need more than 3 hours the space)? Other of you have this problem or this doesn't have relations with POIS?
 

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« Reply #16117 on: 18/04/2012 05:20:24 »
Fidalgo, No I haven't noticed a problem with eating before bed. Eating before bed is something I actually do often.

When do you take the Nasonex and how much?

Also, What kind of cognitive symptoms do you experience? A lot of us in here experience confusion, slowed thinking, trouble being alert, social diffulties, and even depression.
 

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« Reply #16118 on: 18/04/2012 08:31:48 »
Good Night people,
At first I want to ask sorry for my bad english... I am brasilian.

Yesterday I discover this Forum. You couldn't Know my happiness after that. I'm suffering about POIS about five years. When start I stay a lot of time in the internet looking for what could be because all the doctors said that what I have doesn't exist. And now I have the certainty that I'm not alone in the world.

I read some post in the Forum about what can be used to improve our POIS but I don't know if you are in a best ou worst position than me. My POIS start five years ago, when I was 20 years. My two first years I couldn't live. I stay all the time in my home and I always feel terrible and with the sensation I couldn't control my acts. Because the doctors said that my disease doesn't exist, I didn't explain my problem to the doctors. In some times even I think my problem must be other. So I went in a lot of throat specialistm because I have always sore throat because of POIS. And then, after I use a lot of anti-allergics, I found one that change my life. My POIS didn't over, I cotinue with a lot of sore throat, but the medicinal improve a lot my POIS. I ejaculate at the night, I use the medician, I have the symptoms of POSI, but in the next morning, after I get up, I have almost no symptoms.

The name the medicinal in Brasil is Nasonex (I don't Know if in other countries have the same name). The active substance is Mometasona.

I don't know if my improve in symptons is bigger than yours with other medicinal, but I think you must try.

Other thing: I want try other things with nasonex, because I always have sore throat, what do you think is the best you tried? I like the ideia of patches of testorene because it seem to me two tottally differents ways of improve symtoms e may be adittionals... What do you think?

Other time: Sorry for my english...
Hi, Did you have chronic sinusitis? Have you had allergy testing?
I have  a lot of allergies and nasonex is just one of several sinus medications I've tried. None has brought about total relief but they do make a difference.
 

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« Reply #16119 on: 18/04/2012 09:29:50 »
Good Night people,
At first I want to ask sorry for my bad english... I am brasilian.

Yesterday I discover this Forum. You couldn't Know my happiness after that. I'm suffering about POIS about five years. When start I stay a lot of time in the internet looking for what could be because all the doctors said that what I have doesn't exist. And now I have the certainty that I'm not alone in the world.

I read some post in the Forum about what can be used to improve our POIS but I don't know if you are in a best ou worst position than me. My POIS start five years ago, when I was 20 years. My two first years I couldn't live. I stay all the time in my home and I always feel terrible and with the sensation I couldn't control my acts. Because the doctors said that my disease doesn't exist, I didn't explain my problem to the doctors. In some times even I think my problem must be other. So I went in a lot of throat specialistm because I have always sore throat because of POIS. And then, after I use a lot of anti-allergics, I found one that change my life. My POIS didn't over, I cotinue with a lot of sore throat, but the medicinal improve a lot my POIS. I ejaculate at the night, I use the medician, I have the symptoms of POSI, but in the next morning, after I get up, I have almost no symptoms.

The name the medicinal in Brasil is Nasonex (I don't Know if in other countries have the same name). The active substance is Mometasona.

I don't know if my improve in symptons is bigger than yours with other medicinal, but I think you must try.

Other thing: I want try other things with nasonex, because I always have sore throat, what do you think is the best you tried? I like the ideia of patches of testorene because it seem to me two tottally differents ways of improve symtoms e may be adittionals... What do you think?

Other time: Sorry for my english...
Hi, Did you have chronic sinusitis? Have you had allergy testing?
I have  a lot of allergies and nasonex is just one of several sinus medications I've tried. None has brought about total relief but they do make a difference.

Hi Fidalgo,

Are you sure that you are suffering from POIS?  Are you getting the symptoms immediately after ejaculation?
Why I asked this, your medications seems to be best for Sinsuits treatment and its effects i.e. allergy in nasals.
I undergone Sinus X-ray and found normal in POIS period and doctor told me that there was not problem in Sinus. 

But, I always has a doubt that there is something imbalance happening in nasal after POIS.  I noticed many times that, imbalance in Nasal will happen immediately after the ejaculation and it is a first trigger for me in POIS. Later within 2 to 3 hours, from nasal imbalance is spread to Brain, behind eyes, and sometimes in knees (very rare).

I just ordered Nasonex spray and it will reach me tomorrow morning.  My friend who is a wholesale dealer in pharma warned me that, Nasonex has severe side effects if used excessively such as Sore throat, vulnerable to attack of Viral fever, bacteria, cold, headche and other illness and he suggested me to take precautionary action to avoid these side effects.  So, I will take Himalays's septilin and Azadirachta indica.  Septilin will boost the immune system and it protects attack of other viral, bacteria and other illness. Azadirachta indica is a god of herbals and there is no end of benefit of this.  So, from tomorrow I am starting use of Nasonex along with above 2 precautionary medicine. 

If you suffer from other illness after curing of POIS in single day, I am advise you to use the above 2 as these two herbals medicine will boost the immune system and side effects to this is very rare and if so, it is very minimal. 

 

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« Reply #16120 on: 18/04/2012 13:39:49 »
Good Night people,
At first I want to ask sorry for my bad english... I am brasilian.

Yesterday I discover this Forum. You couldn't Know my happiness after that. I'm suffering about POIS about five years. When start I stay a lot of time in the internet looking for what could be because all the doctors said that what I have doesn't exist. And now I have the certainty that I'm not alone in the world.

I read some post in the Forum about what can be used to improve our POIS but I don't know if you are in a best ou worst position than me. My POIS start five years ago, when I was 20 years. My two first years I couldn't live. I stay all the time in my home and I always feel terrible and with the sensation I couldn't control my acts. Because the doctors said that my disease doesn't exist, I didn't explain my problem to the doctors. In some times even I think my problem must be other. So I went in a lot of throat specialistm because I have always sore throat because of POIS. And then, after I use a lot of anti-allergics, I found one that change my life. My POIS didn't over, I cotinue with a lot of sore throat, but the medicinal improve a lot my POIS. I ejaculate at the night, I use the medician, I have the symptoms of POSI, but in the next morning, after I get up, I have almost no symptoms.

The name the medicinal in Brasil is Nasonex (I don't Know if in other countries have the same name). The active substance is Mometasona.

I don't know if my improve in symptons is bigger than yours with other medicinal, but I think you must try.

Other thing: I want try other things with nasonex, because I always have sore throat, what do you think is the best you tried? I like the ideia of patches of testorene because it seem to me two tottally differents ways of improve symtoms e may be adittionals... What do you think?

Other time: Sorry for my english...
Hi, Did you have chronic sinusitis? Have you had allergy testing?
I have  a lot of allergies and nasonex is just one of several sinus medications I've tried. None has brought about total relief but they do make a difference.

Hi Fidalgo,

Are you sure that you are suffering from POIS?  Are you getting the symptoms immediately after ejaculation?
Why I asked this, your medications seems to be best for Sinsuits treatment and its effects i.e. allergy in nasals.
I undergone Sinus X-ray and found normal in POIS period and doctor told me that there was not problem in Sinus. 

But, I always has a doubt that there is something imbalance happening in nasal after POIS.  I noticed many times that, imbalance in Nasal will happen immediately after the ejaculation and it is a first trigger for me in POIS. Later within 2 to 3 hours, from nasal imbalance is spread to Brain, behind eyes, and sometimes in knees (very rare).

I just ordered Nasonex spray and it will reach me tomorrow morning.  My friend who is a wholesale dealer in pharma warned me that, Nasonex has severe side effects if used excessively such as Sore throat, vulnerable to attack of Viral fever, bacteria, cold, headche and other illness and he suggested me to take precautionary action to avoid these side effects.  So, I will take Himalays's septilin and Azadirachta indica.  Septilin will boost the immune system and it protects attack of other viral, bacteria and other illness. Azadirachta indica is a god of herbals and there is no end of benefit of this.  So, from tomorrow I am starting use of Nasonex along with above 2 precautionary medicine. 

If you suffer from other illness after curing of POIS in single day, I am advise you to use the above 2 as these two herbals medicine will boost the immune system and side effects to this is very rare and if so, it is very minimal.

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, I had writed 1 paged and lost all the information.... So, let's start again...

I couldn't say that I have POIS because I don't have a diagnostic, but all the symptoms you have are too similar from mine. I have flu symptoms constantly, with no intervals, for 2 years. The symptons get better if I not ejaculated but I never feel me absolutaly normal because of my sore throat. It always bed me. All the symptoms of mental confusion, diarrheia, light sensitive, are too equal and are all relationed with the ejaculated. So, I think we have the same problem or very similar problems.

I said that Nasones changed my life. My symptoms are too relationed with respiration, like sore throats, flu symptons and even the mental confusion is too similar of the mental confusion we have when we are with flu. The only difference is that this flu never get better because I can't stop of ejaculation.

Here, I'm not saying that Nasonex will work of you. I know how bad are our symptoms and what make with us so I don't want to give false hopes. But work with me and I think you should try. Nasonex costs 50 reais in Brazil. If you have the sabe reaction than I, in the first week you will realize. If not, stop to take it. But try.

Other thing helped me a lot with my sore throat is gargling a mix of sault and water. Helped me a lot.

People, how start your POIS? I always had strange sensations after ejaculate bur my POIS start in a strange way. It a cold day in Sao Paulo and I was using clothes for hot, so I get sick. But after that I never be the same and always have problems with ejaculation... Some of you have too this strange start?


Ahhh, Himalaya don't have stores in Brasil. It worth imported the products?
 

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« Reply #16121 on: 18/04/2012 15:15:01 »
fidalgo, I cannot remember when my POIS started!

But it's like since you start to ejaculate?
 

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« Reply #16122 on: 18/04/2012 15:19:08 »
Hi finally i got xantinol nicotinate tablet in my area. One tablet is 150mg. How many tablets i require to take. At what time . And in empty stomach or with food. Please help.
Hi Nathan,
1. I think you need 3 tablets, e.g. 450mg in total of XN (thats my dose, my dose for pure Niacin is 150mg and I think its average among the people on this forum). I recommend you to start from one tablet and see if your body reacts okay on it. After that increase dose to two and the next time to 3 tablets. When you will take 3 tablets you can try having an O.
2. You need to wait at least 1 hour after taking tablets and before O. More generally you need to feel the flush and then feel that its gone and only after that have an O.
3. You need to take tablets on empty stomach. This way tablets will be absorbed better and faster.
4. Of course you need to check with your doctor if this is okay for you to take this medications in these dozes. I'm not a doctor. I'm telling you just my experience which might be not suited for YOUR case. So, do it, consult with your doctor first.

Hope this helps,
Victor

Victor, THANK YOU for posting the caveats!

Anyone seeking to treat POIS with ideas from this forum should PLEASE do so under a physician's care.

Some of what we discuss here can be dangerous if not done with medical supervision!

SAFETY FIRST, PLEASE
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« Reply #16123 on: 18/04/2012 15:26:03 »
Good Night people,
At first I want to ask sorry for my bad english... I am brasilian.

Yesterday I discover this Forum. You couldn't Know my happiness after that. I'm suffering about POIS about five years. When start I stay a lot of time in the internet looking for what could be because all the doctors said that what I have doesn't exist. And now I have the certainty that I'm not alone in the world.

I read some post in the Forum about what can be used to improve our POIS but I don't know if you are in a best ou worst position than me. My POIS start five years ago, when I was 20 years. My two first years I couldn't live. I stay all the time in my home and I always feel terrible and with the sensation I couldn't control my acts. Because the doctors said that my disease doesn't exist, I didn't explain my problem to the doctors. In some times even I think my problem must be other. So I went in a lot of throat specialistm because I have always sore throat because of POIS. And then, after I use a lot of anti-allergics, I found one that change my life. My POIS didn't over, I cotinue with a lot of sore throat, but the medicinal improve a lot my POIS. I ejaculate at the night, I use the medician, I have the symptoms of POSI, but in the next morning, after I get up, I have almost no symptoms.

The name the medicinal in Brasil is Nasonex (I don't Know if in other countries have the same name). The active substance is Mometasona.

I don't know if my improve in symptons is bigger than yours with other medicinal, but I think you must try.

Other thing: I want try other things with nasonex, because I always have sore throat, what do you think is the best you tried? I like the ideia of patches of testorene because it seem to me two tottally differents ways of improve symtoms e may be adittionals... What do you think?

Other time: Sorry for my english...
Hi, Did you have chronic sinusitis? Have you had allergy testing?
I have  a lot of allergies and nasonex is just one of several sinus medications I've tried. None has brought about total relief but they do make a difference.

Hi Fidalgo,

Are you sure that you are suffering from POIS?  Are you getting the symptoms immediately after ejaculation?
Why I asked this, your medications seems to be best for Sinsuits treatment and its effects i.e. allergy in nasals.
I undergone Sinus X-ray and found normal in POIS period and doctor told me that there was not problem in Sinus. 

But, I always has a doubt that there is something imbalance happening in nasal after POIS.  I noticed many times that, imbalance in Nasal will happen immediately after the ejaculation and it is a first trigger for me in POIS. Later within 2 to 3 hours, from nasal imbalance is spread to Brain, behind eyes, and sometimes in knees (very rare).

I just ordered Nasonex spray and it will reach me tomorrow morning.  My friend who is a wholesale dealer in pharma warned me that, Nasonex has severe side effects if used excessively such as Sore throat, vulnerable to attack of Viral fever, bacteria, cold, headche and other illness and he suggested me to take precautionary action to avoid these side effects.  So, I will take Himalays's septilin and Azadirachta indica.  Septilin will boost the immune system and it protects attack of other viral, bacteria and other illness. Azadirachta indica is a god of herbals and there is no end of benefit of this.  So, from tomorrow I am starting use of Nasonex along with above 2 precautionary medicine. 

If you suffer from other illness after curing of POIS in single day, I am advise you to use the above 2 as these two herbals medicine will boost the immune system and side ee diffffects to this is very rare and if so, it is very minimal.

Nathan, starts using Nasonex one time per day, tow aplications in each nostrils. Always use after ejaculate. I think that, if works with you, you going to see the improve in the first week...  I hope that works...

I going try something like the Himalaya too...
 

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« Reply #16124 on: 18/04/2012 15:33:37 »

fidalgo, I cannot remember when my POIS started!


But it's like since you start to ejaculate?


I remember POIS symptoms 30 years ago. But my POIS could have started as far back as 50 years ago! (Sorry to disappoint all of you who thought I was a teenager : - )

I - like so smany others here - simply could not 'connect the dots' from sex-to-POIS-symptoms.

This is very common with POISers. Sometimes the day(s) after sex feels horrible and we just DO NOT know why!!

It often takes years - since there are no "warnings" about POIS from your doctors, teachers, the media, friends, family, etc. It is often difficult to see that we are extremely fatigued, brain fogged, etc., the morning after.........sex!

« Last Edit: 20/04/2012 07:55:20 by demografx »
 

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