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« Reply #16600 on: 28/05/2012 21:06:46 »

Kurtosis, you express yourself wonderfully!!!!  :-)


Thank you Stef.
 

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« Reply #16601 on: 29/05/2012 00:54:28 »
Here is a very interesting graph with some majors comments regarding the dopamin levels after an O ->
 

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« Reply #16602 on: 29/05/2012 01:06:59 »

Here is a very interesting graph with some major comments regarding the dopamine levels after an O ->






Very interesting, Habibou!!

« Last Edit: 29/05/2012 01:42:16 by demografx »
 

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« Reply #16603 on: 29/05/2012 01:25:20 »
I was reading you about prostate inflammation and I think in one thing. I´m sorry if is stupid question but I have to ask it. After my POIS started I became adiccted in prostitutes, because I only have sex the moments I could and because it´s very difficulty to have realationships with POIS. What I want to say is that all the hookers stay impressed for how far my ejaculation go. All the hookers say that they never had seen something like this before. I think this is may a cause of POIS. I don't know, maybe my urine canal are so thin and my body have to make a lot of effort to expel sperm. Or maybe is prostate inflammation.

Dou you have something like that? Have some women told you that you ejaculate too high, far, strong?

Don't think I ever had a tape measure out for such an occurrence. :o) Sorry but I can't relate to this observation.

Today I did have some minor POIS, present but manageable. I think that it might be relevant that I didn't urinate following the NE like I normally would. I therefore did not flush out the semen. If the autoimmune theory is correct then it might be best to unrinate following ejaculation. I still feel like the prostate formula is helping but then again it might be assisting with inflammation elsewhere "down there", not necessarily in the prostate.
 

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« Reply #16604 on: 29/05/2012 01:39:14 »


Kurtosis, you express yourself wonderfully!!!!  :-)


Thank you Stef.

kurtosis, congrats! A thumbs up from an accomplished writer such as Stef is: wayyy coooool!
 

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« Reply #16605 on: 29/05/2012 02:05:00 »
Here is a very interesting graph with some majors comments regarding the dopamin levels after an O ->
'Reduction in brain androgen (testosterone) receptors for up to one week.'
That might explain why the brain fog symptom has never exceeded 7 days in my case!
 

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« Reply #16606 on: 29/05/2012 03:27:36 »
Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer?
By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.

I have had PE as long as I can remember. Even the times in my life that I do not expericnce POIS I continued to have PE.

I am once again considering that POIS is caused by an inflammation of the the prostate (for whatever reason). I had tried Saw Palmetto in the past with no benefits but I am now taking a prostate formula called "Super Prostate". I have had one NE since I began this and did not experience any POIS. Also, I am speculating that it may have reduced my PE, time will tell. I say this because I have had no NEs after taking it for a couple of weeks. For anyone struggling with unwanted NEs you could try a prostate supplement.  The idea that POIS is caused by prostate inflammation sounds logical to me as anti-inflammatory foods reduce or eliminate my symptoms.

Here are the details of the supplement I am taking:

Extra Strength Super Prostate by Webber Naturals
Ingredients:
Saw Palmetto Extract (85-95%) 320mg
Pumpkin Oil 480mg
Zinc 15mg
Tomato Extract (6% lycopene) 5mg
Seleium 55mcg

I am normally taking the recommended dose at one per day. The night after I first started taking them I had an NE and for the next few days took two per day.  No POIS (without taking anti-inflammatory foods)!

Also of note: testosterone reduces inflammation.

http://fitlode.com/2011/08/04/the-anti-inflammatory-powers-of-testosterone/

I also suffer from PE. The Trojan Extended Pleasure Condoms have REALLY helped in this respect. I highly recommend it for those who suffer from PE and for people who simply want to avoid orgasm during intercourse. Durex also makes a desensitizing condom that I've tried. The effect isn't as strong as the Trojans so I don't use them. Still, they may be a good option for those who don't suffer from PE but simply want to avoid orgasm.
 

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« Reply #16607 on: 29/05/2012 09:36:56 »

Here is a very interesting graph with some major comments regarding the dopamine levels after an O ->




Very interesting, Habibou!!
I've been looking into this too. That's what I was talking about in my previous post about a balancing reaction.  There appear to be conflicting opinions on how quickly dopamine levels balance after an O and whether that would have any noticeable cognitive effect.

It does seem, however, that many men suffer from a form of mini-POIS that's offset by a rise in serotonin levels. What could make it worse? One possibility is a prolactinoma which sounds terrifying but is a benign prolactin-producing tumour on the pituitary gland. I found a few articles about this and you may never know you had one as the symptoms are those of excess prolactin that are not obvious like fatigue, visual disturbance and ED. Symptoms vary with tumour size. 
 
So an obvious question here is, has anyone had their prolactin levels measured?
 

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« Reply #16608 on: 29/05/2012 11:07:50 »
I got my prolactin level checked after an O and it was normal !
I also got a brain MRI... and neither pituitary tumour nor adenoma for me !
« Last Edit: 29/05/2012 13:35:24 by Habibou »
 

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« Reply #16609 on: 29/05/2012 11:48:24 »
Habibou, and kurtosis: excellent.

I did exactly the same (FULL HORMONAL BLOODTESTING WITH A POIS-COMPASSIONATE  ENDOCRINOLOGIST) soon after I joined this forum. It was a wonderful thing because it led to my POIS cure. With daily testosterone patches.

However, my prolactin was abnormal: 1,000% higher than average.

I was informed (2008-2009) that endocrinology schools do not really teach or understand the dynamics of "prolactin in men". Only in women.

So I asked my endo if I could do *my own* prolactin research, he said yes, and I cured my own hyperprolactinemia by quitting the Rx called Reglan, which I was taking at the time.

All this I learned from Wikipedia! On my own.

They also did an MRI of my pituitary: A-OK thankfully!

« Last Edit: 29/05/2012 15:42:38 by demografx »
 

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« Reply #16610 on: 29/05/2012 14:15:40 »

Hoping, John, thanks for enlightening us about PE!
 

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« Reply #16611 on: 29/05/2012 14:45:26 »
Here is a very interesting graph with some majors comments regarding the dopamin levels after an O ->
'Reduction in brain androgen (testosterone) receptors for up to one week.'
That might explain why the brain fog symptom has never exceeded 7 days in my case!

Maybe explains why my daily testosterone treatment cures my POIS???
 

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« Reply #16612 on: 29/05/2012 14:49:35 »

So an obvious question here is, has anyone had their prolactin levels measured?
Yep I wondered if prolaction was the problem numerous years ago and pestered my doctor for a test. It came back normal (I saw the result and it was in the middle of the normal band and I had an O 1 day prior from memory).
As for balancing dopamine levels, there are a couple of ADs out there that focus on keeping levels up and I thought a few here had tried them without reporting a cure. I tried the velvet bean herb a few times and had mixed results.
 

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« Reply #16613 on: 29/05/2012 14:51:03 »
Habibou, and kurtosis: excellent.

I did exactly the same (FULL HORMONAL BLOODTESTING WITH A POIS-COMPASSIONATE  ENDOCRINOLOGIST) soon after I joined this forum. It was a wonderful thing because it led to my POIS cure.

My prolactin was abnormal: 1,000% higher than average.

I was informed (2008-2009) that endocrinology schools do not really teach or understand the dynamics of "prolactin in men". Only in women.

So I asked my endo if I could do *my own* prolactin research, he said yes, and I cured my own hyperprolactinemia by quitting the Rx called Reglan, which I was taking at the time.

All this I learned from Wikipedia! On my own.

They also did an MRI of my pituitary: A-OK thankfully!
But you are POIS wasn´t cured in a testetorone threatment?

I need to go to a endocrinologist. I never went in one and it may be the answer.
 

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« Reply #16614 on: 29/05/2012 15:44:55 »
fidalgo, yes you are correct. I modified my post above to explain my cure with testosterone.

My hyperprolactinemia was discovered en route to my successful POIS treatment with my daily testosterone patches.

« Last Edit: 29/05/2012 15:52:27 by demografx »
 

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« Reply #16615 on: 29/05/2012 15:47:14 »
Habibou, and kurtosis: excellent.

I did exactly the same (FULL HORMONAL BLOODTESTING WITH A POIS-COMPASSIONATE  ENDOCRINOLOGIST) soon after I joined this forum. It was a wonderful thing because it led to my POIS cure.

My prolactin was abnormal: 1,000% higher than average.

I was informed (2008-2009) that endocrinology schools do not really teach or understand the dynamics of "prolactin in men". Only in women.

So I asked my endo if I could do *my own* prolactin research, he said yes, and I cured my own hyperprolactinemia by quitting the Rx called Reglan, which I was taking at the time.

All this I learned from Wikipedia! On my own.

They also did an MRI of my pituitary: A-OK thankfully!
But you are POIS wasn´t cured in a testetorone threatment?

I need to go to a endocrinologist. I never went in one and it may be the answer.

acronym, fidalgo, Habibou: I did not want to see an endocrinologist at first, but that was the POIS forum wisdom at the time, so I went.

It saved my life. (figuratively)

« Last Edit: 30/05/2012 05:33:03 by demografx »
 

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« Reply #16616 on: 29/05/2012 16:27:01 »
Even if you only read the forum, it is important you register so that we can know who have POIS symptoms and so that we have more weight on the opinion !

Amijgoro, I am exactly on the same situation as you concerning the state of POIS : I am in a constant one POIS now 2 years. I just started to take pills to increase my level of dopamin (under the controle of doctors as alaways) since I found out my level was very low. It was one of the only standard that failed so much...

I  encourage all the silent readers - i was one of them during several months - to register and share their case. You´ll feel very good after doing it!!


To the silent readers: we greatly appreciate you. And you help our "stats" (hits) - and thus our popularity and appeal to more suffering POISers -  enormously...thank you!

Either way, silent readers (the majority of POIS thread) are WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME.


I agree with Observer. But if you CAN'T register, you are 105% welcome by us!!!

Best wishes,
Demo
Hello from SPAIN dear friends.
We are very surprised when an article has appeared in dily press entitled " Nightmare Orgasm"
newbielink:http://www.elmundo.es/elmundosalud/2012/05/18/noticias/1337359570.html [nonactive]
I am very excited with the idea i am not the only person have similar simptoms.
Thank you very much for your coments and investigations!


 
 

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« Reply #16617 on: 29/05/2012 17:01:22 »
Hey Friends .. I have been digging into this problem ... for quite sometime... I had Pois effects very
hard on me... brainfog,burning eye, couldnt speak fluently,lack of will power and confidence and cleared not until 4-5 days after o.... untill six months back. I have been trying
different stuff( niacin,xanithol...) but nothing worked. Finally by Gods grace, I found this Lady in florida, who worked on me and cleared over the phone for last six months .. symptoms would last only for one day( max) sometimes I used to get cleared immediately when I called her twice. I am not sure about indepth
what she does... but she is alternative medicine and intuitive energy healer, where she works with eav(electro acupuncture screening )  and
electro dermal screening ...I finally visited her yesterday ( I am from chicago) ... she said there was some
poison from pesticides that was causing all these hormonal and pois effects..She screened and removed that poison thru EAV ( I guess , didnt want to ask anything ) .... I was feeling very good since last two days. Today I ejaculated and noticed there is lot of difference in reduced(almost nothing ..except slight red eyes) degree of pois effects..

I wanted to share ... so that you guys can try and see .. she is not really expensive ( charges 3-5 dollars for a minute..which should be enough for most cases).. It worked and works for me ... am not guaranteeing anything here ... just trying to pass on my experience and information..
 

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« Reply #16618 on: 29/05/2012 18:33:58 »
I got hcv and hbv test results, were both negative.
hcv was antibody to see if i had it in the past.
hbv test was to see if i have it right now.
 

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« Reply #16619 on: 29/05/2012 20:03:39 »

So an obvious question here is, has anyone had their prolactin levels measured?
Yep I wondered if prolaction was the problem numerous years ago and pestered my doctor for a test. It came back normal (I saw the result and it was in the middle of the normal band and I had an O 1 day prior from memory).
As for balancing dopamine levels, there are a couple of ADs out there that focus on keeping levels up and I thought a few here had tried them without reporting a cure. I tried the velvet bean herb a few times and had mixed results.


Foods high in tyrosine and taking L-tyrosine by itself help me with POIS symptoms. Compared to this time last year I spend a lot less time in the unproductive POIS fugue. That's why I believe that catecholamine levels are unbalanced in POIS. I've never tried velvet bean herb. It seems like it might work except that it contains 5-HT which will actually inhibit dopamine reception in some parts of the brain.
 

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« Reply #16620 on: 29/05/2012 22:56:26 »
Hey Friends .. I have been digging into this problem ... for quite sometime... I had Pois effects very
hard on me... brainfog,burning eye, couldnt speak fluently,lack of will power and confidence and cleared not until 4-5 days after o.... untill six months back. I have been trying
different stuff( niacin,xanithol...) but nothing worked. Finally by Gods grace, I found this Lady in florida, who worked on me and cleared over the phone for last six months .. symptoms would last only for one day( max) sometimes I used to get cleared immediately when I called her twice. I am not sure about indepth
what she does... but she is alternative medicine and intuitive energy healer, where she works with eav(electro acupuncture screening )  and
electro dermal screening ...I finally visited her yesterday ( I am from chicago) ... she said there was some
poison from pesticides that was causing all these hormonal and pois effects..She screened and removed that poison thru EAV ( I guess , didnt want to ask anything ) .... I was feeling very good since last two days. Today I ejaculated and noticed there is lot of difference in reduced(almost nothing ..except slight red eyes) degree of pois effects..

I wanted to share ... so that you guys can try and see .. she is not really expensive ( charges 3-5 dollars for a minute..which should be enough for most cases).. It worked and works for me ... am not guaranteeing anything here ... just trying to pass on my experience and information..
It is great for you that you found some relief ! BUT According to me, If we have to spend money somewhere, it is not in magic things "to try" but into real researches ! We could save lot of money if we stop trying things individually while we have the opportunity to have a scientific research.
THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING WRONG IS : NORD RESEARCH
« Last Edit: 29/05/2012 22:58:17 by Habibou »
 

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« Reply #16621 on: 29/05/2012 23:57:00 »
Even if you only read the forum, it is important you register so that we can know who have POIS symptoms and so that we have more weight on the opinion !

Amijgoro, I am exactly on the same situation as you concerning the state of POIS : I am in a constant one POIS now 2 years. I just started to take pills to increase my level of dopamin (under the controle of doctors as alaways) since I found out my level was very low. It was one of the only standard that failed so much...

I  encourage all the silent readers - i was one of them during several months - to register and share their case. You´ll feel very good after doing it!!


To the silent readers: we greatly appreciate you. And you help our "stats" (hits) - and thus our popularity and appeal to more suffering POISers -  enormously...thank you!

Either way, silent readers (the majority of POIS thread) are WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME.


I agree with Observer. But if you CAN'T register, you are 105% welcome by us!!!

Best wishes,
Demo
Hello from SPAIN dear friends.
We are very surprised when an article has appeared in dily press entitled " Nightmare Orgasm"
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundosalud/2012/05/18/noticias/1337359570.html
I am very excited with the idea i am not the only person have similar simptoms.
Thank you very much for your coments and investigations!


Wow! Hola!
I am very happy that you´ve found that you´re not alone, that only means that the news article has been worth it. We welcome you (and to the rest of silent readers: it´s good to know that we are useful to you!)
 

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« Reply #16622 on: 30/05/2012 00:34:22 »
Dou you have something like that? Have some women told you that you ejaculate too high, far, strong?

I notice if I go 2, 3, or more days without ejaculating then my orgasm will be more powerful and my ejaculate will go much farther. I think that's how it works for most people though.
 

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« Reply #16623 on: 30/05/2012 02:21:09 »
macclosed, welcome to the POIS thread of The Naked Science Forum!  We believe that 2012 is POIS' Breakthrough Year. We hope to launch serious POIS Medical Research. A great time to be here!
   


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« Reply #16624 on: 30/05/2012 02:32:52 »
Hey Friends .. I have been digging into this problem ... for quite sometime... I had Pois effects very
hard on me... brainfog,burning eye, couldnt speak fluently,lack of will power and confidence and cleared not until 4-5 days after o.... untill six months back. I have been trying
different stuff( niacin,xanithol...) but nothing worked. Finally by Gods grace, I found this Lady in florida, who worked on me and cleared over the phone for last six months .. symptoms would last only for one day( max) sometimes I used to get cleared immediately when I called her twice. I am not sure about indepth
what she does... but she is alternative medicine and intuitive energy healer, where she works with eav(electro acupuncture screening )  and
electro dermal screening ...I finally visited her yesterday ( I am from chicago) ... she said there was some
poison from pesticides that was causing all these hormonal and pois effects..She screened and removed that poison thru EAV ( I guess , didnt want to ask anything ) .... I was feeling very good since last two days. Today I ejaculated and noticed there is lot of difference in reduced(almost nothing ..except slight red eyes) degree of pois effects..

I wanted to share ... so that you guys can try and see .. she is not really expensive ( charges 3-5 dollars for a minute..which should be enough for most cases).. It worked and works for me ... am not guaranteeing anything here ... just trying to pass on my experience and information..
It is great for you that you found some relief ! BUT According to me, If we have to spend money somewhere, it is not in magic things "to try" but into real researches ! We could save lot of money if we stop trying things individually while we have the opportunity to have a scientific research.
THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING WRONG IS : NORD RESEARCH

Excellent reply, Habibou!
 

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