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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #16900 on: 07/07/2012 09:52:26 »
I just sharing my experience expecting it may be the cause for POIS.
Hi,  Last month I have posted about my Vita B 12 deficiency and Vitamin D severe deficiency.  After that, I contacted the best doctor in my state and told about my symptoms and problems.  After a careful study and diagnosis, he concluded that what I am suffering is a  muscle weakness. 

As per his explanation, during orgasm many muscles in the body are involved and this will be contracted.  Hence, due to autoimmune reaction during orgasm, autoimmune neuromuscular disease leading to fluctuating muscle weakness and fatiguability. It is an autoimmune disorder, in which weakness is caused by circulating antibodies that block acetylcholine receptors at the postsynaptic neuromuscular junction, inhibiting the excitatory effects of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine on nicotinic receptors throughout neuromuscular junctions.

Further, he added after orgasm I will have a illness of same symptoms like mild Myasthenia gravis where there will be burning eyes, slurred speech, fatigue, shortness of breath due to muscular weakness in nose and around head region. 

Now he has prescribed me a Homeopothic medicine for 3 months and also advised to eat more and more vegetables and Finger millet as it help to strengthen our muscle and it gives a ability to face orgasm for our muscles. 

Further, he also added that during wet dreams there will be very less involvement of muscle contraction and hence, there will be no POIS symtoms for us.  Similarly, if I do more exercises, dips, this will result in muscle restlessness and due to this POIS symptoms will occur. 

Finally, to conclude as per him it is a muscle weakness due to auto immune reaction in the body. 

Also see the symptoms of Myasthenia gravis, you will see some of the symptoms face by POIS people. 

Hoping for best in this new treatment. 

For years I have had intermittent double vision (diplopia) and also ptosis of the eye (drooping of the eyelid).  The diplopia has been present now for maybe a year or so. The diagnosis is suspected Myasthenia gravis. The tests for MG have not been positive but apparently that doesn't mean that I don't have MG ( I had the Tensilon test and blood work checking for antibodies). According to my opthamologist my double vision behaves like MG. Years ago they gave me Mestanon and it seemed to help my ptosis.  I think that they will put me on it again if my condition worsens any more. Lately it has become somewhat worse, I had to bump up my corrective prism strength that I wear on my glasses ( a thin plastic with lines in it).

Here is something very interesting: years ago when I first experienced double vision it went away spoontaniously, following sex! I was drinking one night and ended up with a young lady in a parked car (this was before I became religious). I remember that I had strong feelings for her and felt great about being with her. Waking up the next day the double vision was gone! That was proof positive to me that my double vision is somehow related to my POIS. But when I told this to my eye specialists I'm sure it was one of the strangest things they ever heard on the job.

I have to say that homeopathy seems to me like a system that capitalizes on the placebo effect. But if it works for you thats great.
I have found myself on my regular travels and, unable to pick up huperzine A where I live, I got some yesterday morning. I'm currently experiencing no strabismus and the world has become a lot more "3D". Huperzine is a plant derivative which acts as a cholinesterase inhibitor. It could be used to treat myasthenia gravis and appears to improve memory in clinical trials.

I had an O last night, took my zinc, p5p , cobalamin (b12), and magnesium and some huperzine last night and this morning. It's like the O never happened. Actually, I'm feeling almost disgustingly productive :) Must experiment some more with this and I'll report back in a few weeks.

However, I can tell you what doesn't work for me. SSRI's, NaSSA and Bupropion. I've been prescribed them all now at various stages. The first 2 don't work at all for me. Psychiatrists tell you that you're anxious and want to give you them in the belief that they are the tool to fix anxiety and low level depression. Fine if that's what you have but they just make me feel flatter. Bupropion gives a bit of a lift but appears to worsen my eye problems and makes me generally fidgety.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #16901 on: 07/07/2012 10:13:37 »
Guys,

When you talk about 'Myasthenia gravis' does this include light sensitivity/itchy and burning eyes especially in the morning? Its hard to explain how much my eyes bother me in the first few days of POIS, it makes it hard to get out of bed and i cant open my eyes outside for hours. Eye problems also seem to go hand in hand with alertness.

I'd be interested to know just how many types of symptoms myasthenia gravis could produce.
 

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« Reply #16902 on: 07/07/2012 10:17:02 »
For years I have thought the eyes and cold symptoms were due to inflammation so it intruiging that there may be a new possibility for us.
 

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« Reply #16903 on: 07/07/2012 10:56:48 »
Guys,

When you talk about 'Myasthenia gravis' does this include light sensitivity/itchy and burning eyes especially in the morning? Its hard to explain how much my eyes bother me in the first few days of POIS, it makes it hard to get out of bed and i cant open my eyes outside for hours. Eye problems also seem to go hand in hand with alertness.

I'd be interested to know just how many types of symptoms myasthenia gravis could produce.

I have never heard of such sympoms being associated with MG. It is always muscle weakness that affects certain areas of the body, the eyes especially.
 

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« Reply #16904 on: 08/07/2012 09:01:54 »
Hence, due to autoimmune reaction during orgasm, autoimmune neuromuscular disease leading to fluctuating muscle weakness and fatiguability.

I do not understand. Can you describe it more?

So you your doctor will cure your muscle not your reaction to semen?
Hi,  My doctor told that he has done study for one week about my problem and after all diagnosis he suspecting muscle weakness may be the cause for My POIS.  He told that if muscles are improved automatically autoimmune reaction will be reduced.  I don't know the scientific base of his talk.  As there is no other way, I trusted him.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #16905 on: 08/07/2012 09:07:41 »
Guys,

When you talk about 'Myasthenia gravis' does this include light sensitivity/itchy and burning eyes especially in the morning? Its hard to explain how much my eyes bother me in the first few days of POIS, it makes it hard to get out of bed and i cant open my eyes outside for hours. Eye problems also seem to go hand in hand with alertness.

I'd be interested to know just how many types of symptoms myasthenia gravis could produce.

I have never heard of such sympoms being associated with MG. It is always muscle weakness that affects certain areas of the body, the eyes especially.

Hi, Please don't misunderstand my post.  What I told by my doctor is it is similar to MG and not MG.  MG is a severe muscle weakness and it has severe symptoms than POIS.  But he is suspecting my POIS symptoms is due to muscle weakness (not servere as MG) in around head region which is due to autoimmune reaction of semen.  He told that it is totally different from MG and but related to muscle.  Some of the symptoms of MG and POIS is matching such as simple speech, pain in eye muscle. 

I am not ready to wait for 3 months as told by GP to start treatment for this.  Today only after taking approval from him I want to take acetylcholine tablets.  Is there any success by god's grace.  I will update after successfull of 2 weeks.

 

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« Reply #16906 on: 08/07/2012 11:04:49 »
Good day!
I'm a new member and would like to get answers and share my thoughts.
If I abstain from masturbation for a long time say 20-30 days I get anxious and when I finally ejaculate I get
minimal symptoms of POIS.
But if I ejaculate the next day my symptoms become worse.And here is the funny thing that makes my case
probably worse than others:
When I am aroused frequently and start masturbation I get POIS just from watching hot women and eventually have to stop from severe fatigue and brain fog.
It's like something builds up tolerance in my brain after frequent masturbation and the more frequent I do it I need more arousing things to keep me up.This is hard to explain but I try.For example abstaining for 20 days makes me so aroused and motivated that I will get hard and start masturbating by watching or fantasyzing of a woman in a nice dress.But after continous days of masturbation I will need something much more arousing like porn to stay hard etc.
I would like to get answers for this "build up" tolerance thing please.

My theories: I could have MAO-A gene mutation which means I am unable to break down dopamine.I will be doing the genetic testing I don't want to promote anything but just for 300$ you can order a genetic test kit and you need to do is spit in a tube and you will get 30 genes covered.

Or brain inflammation that happens when I get excited.

The others theory is I already had low serotonine to start with and I was put on SSRI for 3 years and after feeling fatigued and zombie all day I quit it cold turkey and suffered prolonged withdrawal and 1 year 3 months after I still have soft glans syndrome.After reading about the effects of SSRI I was sure about my problem is due to low dopamine.So I have ordered L-Tyrosine,took it and suffered my first panic attack in my life.Since then I have developed panic disorder and probably severe case of adrenal fatigue.
My serotonine levels have to be very low and I have ordered the activated form of vitamin B6 (P5P) but after the Tyrosine accident I am too scared to take anything even if it could help.Messing with neurotransmitters is very dangerous as low dopamine can cause a host of diseases and illnesses I'm pretty sure serotonine can too.

My last theory is leaky gut thus being low on all vitamins and minerals.Taking niacin and B6 that makes you guys feel better really points to the thing that you are deficient in these.

Things that I've tried:
-went gluten free
-started taking 3000 ui of vitamin D + sunbathing daily 20-25 minutes
-stopped eating chocolate,potato chips,bread and all kinds of sugary things
-started eating more vegetables
-quit smoking
-stopped watching porn (2 months and counting)
-started doing exercises

My overall health have improved by ~10% but my POIS has worsened due to the restrictions giving me anxiety.

One last thing I'd like to add is that immediately before and after ejaculation my fingers start shaking like an 80 years old Parkinson diseased man.It gets better after 1-2 hours but I still can't hold my fingers straight.
I noticed after long absistence (at least 2 weeks) from any "self-abusing" activity this symptom diminishes by 95% but returns after orgasms.It's a never ending cycle.Thought about blood sugar problems hypoglycemia and I drank a whole glass of orange juice,waited 10 minutes and finished the act.Got the same POIS as I used to get.I'm 23 years old by the way and don't remember having this problem before starting SSRI-s.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #16907 on: 08/07/2012 14:16:58 »
Guys,

When you talk about 'Myasthenia gravis' does this include light sensitivity/itchy and burning eyes especially in the morning? Its hard to explain how much my eyes bother me in the first few days of POIS, it makes it hard to get out of bed and i cant open my eyes outside for hours. Eye problems also seem to go hand in hand with alertness.

I'd be interested to know just how many types of symptoms myasthenia gravis could produce.

I have never heard of such sympoms being associated with MG. It is always muscle weakness that affects certain areas of the body, the eyes especially.

Hi, Please don't misunderstand my post.  What I told by my doctor is it is similar to MG and not MG.  MG is a severe muscle weakness and it has severe symptoms than POIS.  But he is suspecting my POIS symptoms is due to muscle weakness (not servere as MG) in around head region which is due to autoimmune reaction of semen.  He told that it is totally different from MG and but related to muscle.  Some of the symptoms of MG and POIS is matching such as simple speech, pain in eye muscle. 

I am not ready to wait for 3 months as told by GP to start treatment for this.  Today only after taking approval from him I want to take acetylcholine tablets.  Is there any success by god's grace.  I will update after successfull of 2 weeks.


Nathan123, exactly what are the "acetylcholine tablets" that you mention? It seems like drugs like Mestanon can work but then you can build up tolerance and have to take an increased dose. But such a drug might shed light on your doctor's theory. If you want to try a non-drug way it might be helpful to eat more of the acetylcholine precurser foods. I don't really know if this is helpful but it can't hurt. You can try increasing eggs or soy for choline, wheat bran for Vit E and a B vit source such as brewers yeast.
 

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« Reply #16908 on: 08/07/2012 15:54:49 »
Sorry for not posting for a long time, but I'm always trying to follow the thread.
At the moment I have extreme POIS symptoms which seems to be constant and only get more severe for several days after sexual activity. Let alone how much it affects quality of my life. I have constant pain, burning behind my eyes, burning is more intensive after ejaculation. The theory which involves muscle weakness above sound quite reasonable. Also I have made ultrasonography of blood vessels and there seems to be some problems with venous outflow. As one physician told me, these symptoms may be caused by intracranial pressure increase, but I don't believe cognitive symptoms I have are caused by it. Also, I was said, there can be some kind of infection, and currently I started taking Benzylpenicillin.
 

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« Reply #16909 on: 08/07/2012 20:56:59 »
Female reply:  You might want to read EO Wilson's new book:  Social Contract
He replaces kin altruism with eusocial groups.  I infered from what he said he believes in genetic memory, and if we are moving toward group behavior, then individual sexual expression is not desired and Mother Nature could be in the process of removing it.  Science has known for decades slightly more than half of women experience orgasm.  And seems to have no information as to the other half don't except to claim it is a state of mind. 
 

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« Reply #16910 on: 08/07/2012 21:18:33 »

I have found myself on my regular travels and, unable to pick up huperzine A where I live, I got some yesterday morning. I'm currently experiencing no strabismus and the world has become a lot more "3D". Huperzine is a plant derivative which acts as a cholinesterase inhibitor. It could be used to treat myasthenia gravis and appears to improve memory in clinical trials.

I had an O last night, took my zinc, p5p , cobalamin (b12), and magnesium and some huperzine last night and this morning. It's like the O never happened. Actually, I'm feeling almost disgustingly productive :) Must experiment some more with this and I'll report back in a few weeks.

However, I can tell you what doesn't work for me. SSRI's, NaSSA and Bupropion. I've been prescribed them all now at various stages. The first 2 don't work at all for me. Psychiatrists tell you that you're anxious and want to give you them in the belief that they are the tool to fix anxiety and low level depression. Fine if that's what you have but they just make me feel flatter. Bupropion gives a bit of a lift but appears to worsen my eye problems and makes me generally fidgety.
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Kurtosis, how long after orgasm and how much of these things are you taking? (zinc, p5p , cobalamin (b12), magnesium, and huperzine)
 

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« Reply #16911 on: 08/07/2012 21:48:11 »
Yep.Thought I will be the first one to tell you about this but I've read back few pages and saw some words about it.I think POIS is caused by Pyrrole disorder which is a severe deficiency in B6 and zinc.
B6 is necessery for serotonine levels which is necessery for optimal dopamine.B6 is also important for adrenal health.
Zinc is needed for over 200 enzyme activity in the body.
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« Reply #16912 on: 08/07/2012 22:21:32 »


I have found myself on my regular travels and, unable to pick up huperzine A where I live, I got some yesterday morning. I'm currently experiencing no strabismus and the world has become a lot more "3D". Huperzine is a plant derivative which acts as a cholinesterase inhibitor. It could be used to treat myasthenia gravis and appears to improve memory in clinical trials.

I had an O last night, took my zinc, p5p , cobalamin (b12), and magnesium and some huperzine last night and this morning. It's like the O never happened. Actually, I'm feeling almost disgustingly productive :) Must experiment some more with this and I'll report back in a few weeks.

However, I can tell you what doesn't work for me. SSRI's, NaSSA and Bupropion. I've been prescribed them all now at various stages. The first 2 don't work at all for me. Psychiatrists tell you that you're anxious and want to give you them in the belief that they are the tool to fix anxiety and low level depression. Fine if that's what you have but they just make me feel flatter. Bupropion gives a bit of a lift but appears to worsen my eye problems and makes me generally fidgety.

Kurtosis, how long after orgasm and how much of these things are you taking? (zinc, p5p , cobalamin (b12), magnesium, and huperzine)

zinc, p5p, magnesium taken every might. Just one tablet each of the solgar brand tablets. Can't remember the precise amounts but I'd guess
- chelated zinc 22mg
- chelated magnesium 100mg
- p5p 50mg.

Or sometimes I'd skip that and take a b coenzyme complex. The key ingredient seems to be p5p.

Every 2nd morning I take b12. I've taken huperzine since Friday morning. It's great and requires just one a day. I've also found that gingko biloba helps with cognitive symptoms. I take krill oil every morning and spirulina during the day if I have a really tough day and don't have the time to get enough protein. If I have an O I'll take spirulina at night also.
 

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« Reply #16913 on: 09/07/2012 03:42:01 »
Just had 2 orgasms lately without POIS.  I'm trying to do a "two every two weeks" schedule.  That's 2 O's at the same time for one day out of every two weeks.  Another thing I changed from my latest vitamin intake is I upped the vitamin C dosage to 1,000 mg per day.  I do not think 500 is enough.  I had these 2 O's just a moment ago, and I believe I can tell if I will have POIS or not just by how I am feeling now.  And I am feeling good now.
 

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« Reply #16914 on: 09/07/2012 09:18:08 »
Yep.Thought I will be the first one to tell you about this but I've read back few pages and saw some words about it.I think POIS is caused by Pyrrole disorder which is a severe deficiency in B6 and zinc.
B6 is necessery for serotonine levels which is necessery for optimal dopamine.B6 is also important for adrenal health.
Zinc is needed for over 200 enzyme activity in the body.

It's possible that it's some kind of deficiency of these vitamins and minerals but I don't think that's the whole story. Given the supplementation most of us are taking, it seems very unlikely we'd still be deficient. So our deficiencies must be caused by some underlying condition (possibly an auto-immune disorder). Perhaps there's more than one. I never linked the eye problem with POIS but it appears fixed for the past few days thanks to huperzine, indicating an acetylcholineesterase problem also. Is that part of POIS or something that's coincidental, I don't know...
 

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« Reply #16915 on: 09/07/2012 20:16:54 »
You know this muscle weakness theory sounds very reasonable to me! Even when I went for a long period of absistence when (for example) I flex my biceps and then release my arms the muscle jerks and twitches like crazy.
In this horrible state I still can do 20-30 push ups at once but everytime my body shakes like if I'm having a seizure.I have never seen any person having this during a workout.Ofcourse I'm not stupid and have knowledge about overtraining but that's not the case here.
Right now I'm on the 4th day of taking magnesium citrate supplement.I feel better than I'm used to.
Ejaculated yesterday with no POIS,ejaculated today with some brain fog that has dissappeared after a few hours.
Must read more about muscle weakness and causes.
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« Reply #16916 on: 10/07/2012 03:53:39 »
Another update.  This time I "O'd" 4-5 times yesterday and I did feel POIS.  I also put some under my tongue just to see if I could get a reaction and I did.  I woke up last night and my whole body was sweating.  And I got my typical POIS reaction which was a headache from the back to the front of my head.  I think I would like to freeze my semen so when I am not in POIS and can see if this will create a reaction, that way I would know if it was semen or not...
GoingCrazy, this is a great idea! Freezing your semen and testing to see if you have a reaction while not in POIS may be a great way to test the allergy hypothesis. Maybe put the undiluted sample under your tongue? Kinda makes me squeamish, but I'm willing to try anything at this point. Please keep us updated.
 

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« Reply #16917 on: 10/07/2012 09:27:00 »
You know this muscle weakness theory sounds very reasonable to me! Even when I went for a long period of absistence when (for example) I flex my biceps and then release my arms the muscle jerks and twitches like crazy.
In this horrible state I still can do 20-30 push ups at once but everytime my body shakes like if I'm having a seizure.I have never seen any person having this during a workout.Ofcourse I'm not stupid and have knowledge about overtraining but that's not the case here.
Right now I'm on the 4th day of taking magnesium citrate supplement.I feel better than I'm used to.
Ejaculated yesterday with no POIS,ejaculated today with some brain fog that has dissappeared after a few hours.
Must read more about muscle weakness and causes.

See interesting discussion on magnesium and its effects on ADHD at http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/37603-paradox-magnesium-adhd-cfs
"Ex Dubio"'s responses are fascinating. You can check the papers and he appears to be correct in his assertions. If you're going to supplement with huperzine it appears that magnesium is useful too as it will help manage the levels of striatal acetylcholine which _may_ cause some of the brain fog symptoms (fidgetiness, inability to concentrate on just one thing). While hup-A will increase acetylcholine levels i the hippocampal and posterior parietal cortex regions of the brain which should have a positive effect on memory and focus.
 

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« Reply #16918 on: 10/07/2012 09:38:29 »
Yep.Thought I will be the first one to tell you about this but I've read back few pages and saw some words about it.I think POIS is caused by Pyrrole disorder which is a severe deficiency in B6 and zinc.
B6 is necessery for serotonine levels which is necessery for optimal dopamine.B6 is also important for adrenal health.
Zinc is needed for over 200 enzyme activity in the body.


I have taken Zinc supplements (about 15mg per day) for a few years now and this has halved the recovery time and severity of POIS. Recent experiments with Niacin (taken an hour or so before O with a flush) have improved things still further. I have this forum to thank for the Niacin info. I will post my recent experience with Dr Goldmeier in London when i can coherently do so!
 

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« Reply #16919 on: 10/07/2012 14:01:16 »
First I want to apologize that i will not donate this year to NORD to seek the cure. Today I decided to GET THE CURE. I started to search Urologists here in Poland which will help me in the realization of the plan:
-banking my semen
-doing a close-ended vasectomy (cost about 200 US Dollars and no problem in my country with doing this)
-removal of the seminal vescicles
-eventually TURP, but perhaps I wont need them if I will take finasteride

As you can see its a little bit modificated Animus Solution, because no one in Poland is willing to do a orchiectomy on demand and as Animus says it does not help a lot. The two other parts of the plan, I think I must do aborad: I hope I will find someone in Romania or Hungary (you can have there even Kidney transplants from a living donor).

Please help me and say what do you think about it?
 

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« Reply #16920 on: 10/07/2012 15:18:30 »
First I want to apologize that i will not donate this year to NORD to seek the cure. Today I decided to GET THE CURE. I started to search Urologists here in Poland which will help me in the realization of the plan:
-banking my semen
-doing a close-ended vasectomy (cost about 200 US Dollars and no problem in my country with doing this)
-removal of the seminal vescicles
-eventually TURP, but perhaps I wont need them if I will take finasteride

As you can see its a little bit modificated Animus Solution, because no one in Poland is willing to do a orchiectomy on demand and as Animus says it does not help a lot. The two other parts of the plan, I think I must do aborad: I hope I will find someone in Romania or Hungary (you can have there even Kidney transplants from a living donor).

Please help me and say what do you think about it?

Wow, that's a bold move Starsky!  Can you explain the thought process behind each procedure?

You'd have the procedure done one step at a time, too, so if just one of them "cures" you we'd be able to pinpoint which one, right?

Does insurance cover any of this?  How much does each part cost? 

What side effects are there for each procedure?  If your doctors think the risks are on the low side, then i'd be inclined to think favorably about it.  If we're talking strictly benefits here and not looking at the risks, I'd guess (completely unknowingly) that these 3 procedures would capture the problem. 

People have these procedures done for a whole variety of reasons... cancer, enlarged prostate, not wanting kids, etc.  I think this is as good a reason as any.  The only difference, and the only reason this is scary in my opinion, is that the cure isn't guaranteed. 

I'd actually be willing to donate towards helping you get this done.  The knowledge we'd gain from your procedures would be helpful to any future research and might teach us a great deal.
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« Reply #16921 on: 10/07/2012 15:20:49 »
First I want to apologize that i will not donate this year to NORD to seek the cure. Today I decided to GET THE CURE. I started to search Urologists here in Poland which will help me in the realization of the plan:
-banking my semen
-doing a close-ended vasectomy (cost about 200 US Dollars and no problem in my country with doing this)
-removal of the seminal vescicles
-eventually TURP, but perhaps I wont need them if I will take finasteride

As you can see its a little bit modificated Animus Solution, because no one in Poland is willing to do a orchiectomy on demand and as Animus says it does not help a lot. The two other parts of the plan, I think I must do aborad: I hope I will find someone in Romania or Hungary (you can have there even Kidney transplants from a living donor).

Please help me and say what do you think about it?

Don't be crazy man!!! There are so many possibilities left.I think food definetly influence the severity of POIS.
And wtf Hungary? I am from Hungary.This is the most sad country in the world.Doctors won't even get your vitamin levels checked unless you go there with the rarest genetic disorder ever exists or falling of limbs!
They would laugh you in the face if you tell them about POIS and send you to the psychiatrist!
I will have to leave this damn country to get proper treatment.

There are so many possibilities left for you.Does your liver function properly? Do you know what is methylation or gut dysbiosis? Do you have high histamine levels or low dopamine? Can you get a stool analysis test done to check for parasites? Did they check HPTA function? Are your adrenals healthy?

I know how desperate are you.
I had to quit high school because of sudden POIS leading me to non-stop brian fog.Back then I didn't know what is POIS.
It also made me break up with the first and only girlfriend I managed to have.Also made me go against my family.The constant low dopamine cycle that POIS put me in lead me to not become a succesful person in life.
If I google POIS in my country there are 0 results showing up.I have never met another person in this country having POIS.But I'm here and won't give up.Never!
Don't be crazy and forget that vasectomy please!  Please spend that 200 $ on genetic testing instead and trust me you will be thankful one day!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #16922 on: 10/07/2012 16:16:11 »
I've had a lot of tests done and still haven't found a cure.  In fact, desperate man, if you want to put a list of tests together, or anyone else does, I can effort to get myself tested.  I've basically reached my healthcare max this year already.
 

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« Reply #16923 on: 10/07/2012 16:30:07 »
I want to see all the tests and results that you have done so far.If it's a long post then PM me please!
 

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« Reply #16924 on: 10/07/2012 16:31:16 »
First I want to apologize that i will not donate this year to NORD to seek the cure. Today I decided to GET THE CURE. I started to search Urologists here in Poland which will help me in the realization of the plan:
-banking my semen
-doing a close-ended vasectomy (cost about 200 US Dollars and no problem in my country with doing this)
-removal of the seminal vescicles
-eventually TURP, but perhaps I wont need them if I will take finasteride

As you can see its a little bit modificated Animus Solution, because no one in Poland is willing to do a orchiectomy on demand and as Animus says it does not help a lot. The two other parts of the plan, I think I must do aborad: I hope I will find someone in Romania or Hungary (you can have there even Kidney transplants from a living donor).

Please help me and say what do you think about it?

Wow, Starsky, I fully support you with this idea! I've always been curious about the Animus solution, and also whether it would work for someone else. I think it would, but since we only see one person who has done it, it makes it very tough to confirm. I also agree that, if you can, to do it one operation at a time so we will all know for sure the minimum amount of surgery needed. Also, it would be great to know if one can leave his testicles there and still be cured with just the removal of the vesicles.

(All this is something that I have thought about occasionally, even though I'm young, as a last resort to get my POIS-free life back.)

Good luck and let us know!
 

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