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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17250 on: 09/10/2012 08:47:53 »
I think we are all facing the early signs of demetia,maybe alzeimers and post orgasm is one of the symptoms.pls check for any hereditary link,I have it.

Perhaps but
1) daveman and demo have had it for a while without actually becoming demented :)
2) it doesn't show up on MRI's. I'm in my mid 30s and have had 2 MRI's. Both neurologists couldn't find any sign of lesions or obvious reduction in brain tissue.
They said that if there was a problem it was either to do with transmission of nerve impulses (neurotransmitters etc.) or some form of chronic anxiety disorder. It didn't occur to them that you could have an anxiety problem mediated by a physiological issue (i.e. the body just producing too much stress hormones). Anyway, it's nice to know that I still have a brain and have the pictures at home to prove it :)
 

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« Reply #17251 on: 09/10/2012 17:09:38 »
Ok, the user that I found, guy26, has come over to the other forum to talk about his cure. He says he is open to answer any questions if there are any.
 

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« Reply #17252 on: 11/10/2012 10:28:42 »
After staying away from O I have noticed that even little love making with wife or a little less sleep is giving me pois, but the symptoms last less around a day.the new symptoms I have noticed are diarhea(loose motions),fungal infection in groin area.I think pois is attacking the immune system.
 

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« Reply #17253 on: 11/10/2012 11:03:02 »
After staying away from O I have noticed that even little love making with wife or a little less sleep is giving me pois, but the symptoms last less around a day.the new symptoms I have noticed are diarhea(loose motions),fungal infection in groin area.I think pois is attacking the immune system.

I absolutely think so too. Check out the new discussion on dopamine and dopac on poiscenter.com :)
 

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« Reply #17254 on: 13/10/2012 17:42:46 »
ONLY Urina test, morning 10 hours after an O:

DOPA                       91.50ug/g     (160 - 240)
34DOPAC                  0.40 mg/g   (0.70 - 4.00)
HVA                          1.90 mg/g    (2.43 - 5.20)
NORADRENALIN          10.30 ug/g  (15.70 - 34.30)
MHPG                          1.50 mg/g  (1.38 - 4.15)
VMA                            1.60 mg/g  (2.10 - 3.85)
ADRENALIN                  0.98  ug/g  (1.27 - 6.10)
SEROTONIN                62.40  ug/l   (61.50 - 116.80)
5HIAA                        2.30    mg/g (2.03 - 4.26)
HVA5HIAA                  0.83            (1.25 - 2.56)
« Last Edit: 13/10/2012 17:44:34 by Habibou »
 

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« Reply #17255 on: 13/10/2012 18:00:03 »
ONLY Urina test, morning 10 hours after an O:

DOPA                       91.50ug/g     (160 - 240)
34DOPAC                  0.40 mg/g   (0.70 - 4.00)
HVA                          1.90 mg/g    (2.43 - 5.20)
NORADRENALIN          10.30 ug/g  (15.70 - 34.30)
MHPG                          1.50 mg/g  (1.38 - 4.15)
VMA                            1.60 mg/g  (2.10 - 3.85)
ADRENALIN                  0.98  ug/g  (1.27 - 6.10)
SEROTONIN                62.40  ug/l   (61.50 - 116.80)
5HIAA                        2.30    mg/g (2.03 - 4.26)
HVA5HIAA                  0.83            (1.25 - 2.56)

Habibou,
Nice numbers!  ;)

I would love to see the same test when you're out of POIS.

Regards,
Mat
 

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« Reply #17256 on: 13/10/2012 20:33:13 »
Habibou, I recently took a similar test, and likewise, I was in POIS at the time of the test.
I attached a jpeg of the results instead of typing all of it out.  If you believe it's all accurate, then the results are pretty shocking. 
« Last Edit: 13/10/2012 20:36:10 by B_Daniel »
 

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« Reply #17257 on: 13/10/2012 23:19:58 »
Habibou, I recently took a similar test, and likewise, I was in POIS at the time of the test.
I attached a jpeg of the results instead of typing all of it out.  If you believe it's all accurate, then the results are pretty shocking.

I'm interested in knowing how you measured you'r neurotransmitters. was it a blood test? urin test? what do i ask for?
 

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« Reply #17258 on: 14/10/2012 00:11:27 »
Habibou, I recently took a similar test, and likewise, I was in POIS at the time of the test.
I attached a jpeg of the results instead of typing all of it out.  If you believe it's all accurate, then the results are pretty shocking.

I'm interested in knowing how you measured you'r neurotransmitters. was it a blood test? urin test? what do i ask for?

Mine was a urine test, with a company named Pharmasan Labs, Inc, which I think is the same as NeuroScience.  Honestly, I don't have a whole lot of faith in the test results.  Maybe they're accurate, but it just baffles me that none of my other psychiatrists thought to give me this if it indeed produces such accurate and telling data.  I'm not completely discounting it, but take it with a grain of salt.

All that said, I like the direction this forum is headed in, analyzing hormones and neurotransmitters more closely.  That seems to be where our problems lie.
 

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« Reply #17259 on: 14/10/2012 01:11:06 »
So I got all that testing done on my neurotransmitters, and you did too, Habibou.  Has anyone gotten a full Hormone analysis?  I had one done but results dont come back for another 2 wks
 

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« Reply #17260 on: 14/10/2012 12:45:17 »
I am very sorry guys, but I think that whatever you do is just not right! All we here is an "neverending story" of a guys that has a headache after he masturbates. Go get Your life! If you have a problem with masturbating.. fine don't do that, but I am waiting for the Roman Catholic Church to say something real about it. This just doesn't mean, that as one gets the right kind of person, the headaches are gone, but (!)..
Here's the link, where You can find the truth:
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and if You're really caucious, You'll find everything out there. That is oh so wrong to not speak about physics out here but about some dumb stuff.
I THINK! Scientist, nor the preachers should ever define sex, because it is a matter of our prime naivity to define that and every sex should be a teenagelike sex! Do the geno in gym and You won't get a brown-warm-discousting-in-your-mouth-sh-problem! You won't be saying that the Big-Bang is okay, but You will be sayin' it's a thing to believe when You got the Big-Dud problem.. and You'll splash particles on a bubble.
 

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« Reply #17261 on: 14/10/2012 13:09:47 »
Yes Daniel, we kind of have the same results...
OUT of POIS, it would be little better I guess but not a huge difference since I always have symptoms and brain fog, it because a CFS !
 

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« Reply #17262 on: 14/10/2012 15:12:55 »
I answered the questionaire and I want as many as possible of us to do it. Maybe it is a good chance to get attention to our condition from medical community.
 

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« Reply #17263 on: 15/10/2012 15:14:33 »
Yes Daniel, we kind of have the same results...
OUT of POIS, it would be little better I guess but not a huge difference since I always have symptoms and brain fog, it because a CFS !

I believe the 2 conditions may be related.
 

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« Reply #17264 on: 16/10/2012 09:16:43 »
Hi all
I woud like to ask every body if pois affect body weight???

for me it does affect my body weight, I am 65kg with 174cm.
 

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« Reply #17265 on: 17/10/2012 00:05:32 »
Hi all
I woud like to ask every body if pois affect body weight???
for me it does affect my body weight, I am 65kg with 174cm.
How do you know it accounts for your low body weight?
Do you eat a lot, to the level where you really should be putting on weight, but can't?
Have you ever gone a decent period of time without having an O, and have noticed you put on weight?
 

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« Reply #17266 on: 17/10/2012 00:31:26 »
I have not seen too many posts lately with anyone reporting any sort of success with a new protocol/supplement, which is what I get excited about when viewing new posts, apart from the guy doing well with Neem. Actually I have been having pretty good recovery lately, with some supplements, but its early days. I really want to try for a number of months more before making emphatic claim, but I just thought I'd make a post, because I suspect most here like me, really hang out for posts were guy's are saying that are having some sort of success, even if its short term experience only, as it gives us hope, in the meantime before some sort of medical explanation eventuates.

I have been taking TongKat-Ali (hormones), Vital Greens (phyto-nutrients), Phytosome Curcumins (inflammation), Lipotropene (liver detox), Ammodine (iodine/thyroid), Colloidal Minerlas+Fulvic Acid (trace elements), Kefir (fermented milk), Herbal tonic (ginseng, licorice, golden seal, calendura, ginko). I suspect the TongKat-Ali, Vital Greens and herbal tonic are the main supplements that are helping me with pois, but I am unsure yet how much the other supps contribute. That will take time. I have also been diagnosed with CFS/infection, so they could be playing a role in boosting my health that has flow on effects by lessening the impact of pois. I'll report back in time if these are still helping me. I feel pretty good now just a day later, but the brain fog while not as bad, still lingers for 3-4 days, its just not as bad on day 1.

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« Reply #17267 on: 17/10/2012 10:03:35 »
I think I eat enough food to get the normal body weight ,so I thing pois is the problem!!
I wanted to know if any one have the same..
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« Reply #17268 on: 17/10/2012 11:17:43 »
I have not seen too many posts lately with anyone reporting any sort of success with a new protocol/supplement, which is what I get excited about when viewing new posts, apart from the guy doing well with Neem. Actually I have been having pretty good recovery lately, with some supplements, but its early days. I really want to try for a number of months more before making emphatic claim, but I just thought I'd make a post, because I suspect most here like me, really hang out for posts were guy's are saying that are having some sort of success, even if its short term experience only, as it gives us hope, in the meantime before some sort of medical explanation eventuates.

I have been taking TongKat-Ali (hormones), Vital Greens (phyto-nutrients), Phytosome Curcumins (inflammation), Lipotropene (liver detox), Ammodine (iodine/thyroid), Colloidal Minerlas+Fulvic Acid (trace elements), Kefir (fermented milk), Herbal tonic (ginseng, licorice, golden seal, calendura, ginko). I suspect the TongKat-Ali, Vital Greens and herbal tonic are the main supplements that are helping me with pois, but I am unsure yet how much the other supps contribute. That will take time. I have also been diagnosed with CFS/infection, so they could be playing a role in boosting my health that has flow on effects by lessening the impact of pois. I'll report back in time if these are still helping me. I feel pretty good now just a day later, but the brain fog while not as bad, still lingers for 3-4 days, its just not as bad on day 1.



Who diagnosed the infection and what was diagnosed?
 

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« Reply #17269 on: 17/10/2012 13:28:14 »
I have not seen too many posts lately with anyone reporting any sort of success with a new protocol/supplement, which is what I get excited about when viewing new posts, apart from the guy doing well with Neem. Actually I have been having pretty good recovery lately, with some supplements, but its early days. I really want to try for a number of months more before making emphatic claim, but I just thought I'd make a post, because I suspect most here like me, really hang out for posts were guy's are saying that are having some sort of success, even if its short term experience only, as it gives us hope, in the meantime before some sort of medical explanation eventuates.

I have been taking TongKat-Ali (hormones), Vital Greens (phyto-nutrients), Phytosome Curcumins (inflammation), Lipotropene (liver detox), Ammodine (iodine/thyroid), Colloidal Minerlas+Fulvic Acid (trace elements), Kefir (fermented milk), Herbal tonic (ginseng, licorice, golden seal, calendura, ginko). I suspect the TongKat-Ali, Vital Greens and herbal tonic are the main supplements that are helping me with pois, but I am unsure yet how much the other supps contribute. That will take time. I have also been diagnosed with CFS/infection, so they could be playing a role in boosting my health that has flow on effects by lessening the impact of pois. I'll report back in time if these are still helping me. I feel pretty good now just a day later, but the brain fog while not as bad, still lingers for 3-4 days, its just not as bad on day 1.



Who diagnosed the infection and what was diagnosed?

An infectious diseases specialist and also a doctor who specializes in chronic conditions/CFS. Basically infection of unknown origin, based on certain immunity markers having irregular readings. Pathology blood tests for the common infections come back with negative alas.
 

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« Reply #17270 on: 17/10/2012 18:53:16 »

Hi, there is an interesting and good news for all the POIS suffers.  After my failure of Neem, I started searching for the product which contain Amino acids, Proteins and complete set of nutrients.   then I found Herbal life products.  After using this products for 20 days, now in POIS reduced by 80% and brain congnitive symptoms, difficulty in speaking, heaviness in head has reduced severely and started having a  normal life like every men.  I think I am near to find a solution for POIS.  I am taking following products of Herbal life.

a) Nutritional Shake : Formula 1:
Contents: Whey protein, soy Protein, Corn bran, stabilizer, INS 412, calcium, vitamins, potassium chloride, minerals, and other powders.

2) Protein powder containing  Soy & Whey Protein.

Please try this and provide your comments.

Do you still having sucess with herbalife?
 

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« Reply #17271 on: 17/10/2012 23:16:51 »
I have not seen too many posts lately with anyone reporting any sort of success with a new protocol/supplement, which is what I get excited about when viewing new posts, apart from the guy doing well with Neem. Actually I have been having pretty good recovery lately, with some supplements, but its early days. I really want to try for a number of months more before making emphatic claim, but I just thought I'd make a post, because I suspect most here like me, really hang out for posts were guy's are saying that are having some sort of success, even if its short term experience only, as it gives us hope, in the meantime before some sort of medical explanation eventuates.

I have been taking TongKat-Ali (hormones), Vital Greens (phyto-nutrients), Phytosome Curcumins (inflammation), Lipotropene (liver detox), Ammodine (iodine/thyroid), Colloidal Minerlas+Fulvic Acid (trace elements), Kefir (fermented milk), Herbal tonic (ginseng, licorice, golden seal, calendura, ginko). I suspect the TongKat-Ali, Vital Greens and herbal tonic are the main supplements that are helping me with pois, but I am unsure yet how much the other supps contribute. That will take time. I have also been diagnosed with CFS/infection, so they could be playing a role in boosting my health that has flow on effects by lessening the impact of pois. I'll report back in time if these are still helping me. I feel pretty good now just a day later, but the brain fog while not as bad, still lingers for 3-4 days, its just not as bad on day 1.



Who diagnosed the infection and what was diagnosed?

An infectious diseases specialist and also a doctor who specializes in chronic conditions/CFS. Basically infection of unknown origin, based on certain immunity markers having irregular readings. Pathology blood tests for the common infections come back with negative alas.

Interesting. I suspect that most of our symptoms are caused by an inability to metabolise dopamine effectively, which leads to severe symptoms when catecholamines spike during an O or during a stressful situation.
I suspect either poisoning or inability to process acetaldehyde effectively such that POIS sufferers have low or normal dopamine but consistently low DOPAC.
Whether this is brought on by genetic disorder (mutation of ALDH genes) or poisoning environment or by parasites that increase acetaldehyde levels in the body, I don't know. Could be any of all of these. It's a rare disease so more than one causative factor is possible.

I have 2 confirmed fungal infections by my doctor. A yeast infection, you can guess where, and a fungal rash on my skin.

I'm currently taking niacinamide, methionine and a collection of anti-fungal and anti-parasitic agents. I felt ok the first few days, I've felt terrible for the past 2 days (constant POIS symptoms without an orgasm for a week) and I believe it will clear soon.
I'm also taking some piracetam today which takes the edge of the worst feelings of dizziness and confusion. So I'm still quite lucid but I developed the same headache, eye pain, dizziness and fatigue I get after an O, just by taking anti-fungals.

Just to reiterate that, I'm feeling all the symptoms of POIS without an orgasm. I've done this deliberately, I guess to test my hypothesis. I'm taking neem, doctor-prescribed nystatin and some garlic.
 

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« Reply #17272 on: 19/10/2012 16:35:05 »

Hi, there is an interesting and good news for all the POIS suffers.  After my failure of Neem, I started searching for the product which contain Amino acids, Proteins and complete set of nutrients.   then I found Herbal life products.  After using this products for 20 days, now in POIS reduced by 80% and brain congnitive symptoms, difficulty in speaking, heaviness in head has reduced severely and started having a  normal life like every men.  I think I am near to find a solution for POIS.  I am taking following products of Herbal life.

a) Nutritional Shake : Formula 1:
Contents: Whey protein, soy Protein, Corn bran, stabilizer, INS 412, calcium, vitamins, potassium chloride, minerals, and other powders.

2) Protein powder containing  Soy & Whey Protein.

Please try this and provide your comments.

Do you still having sucess with herbalife?

Hi, fidalgo, from last two or three week, I had 7 orgasm and I did not noticed any POIS symptoms.  But one night, I got disturbed sleep and next morning I got POIS symptoms.  But within one day, it disappeared. Presently feeling well and not as normal man.   I also had complete thyroid profile and all symtoms are normal.

I enquired with doctor and herbal life people, (nutrientist) what is my problem.  Another interesting is I browsed for symtoms of testerone deficiency and shocking to know that I had all the symtoms of testerone deficiency such as low muscle growth, breast enlargement, lack of hair on the body, not having deepen voice, high body mass index, disturbed sleep, low concentraion, memory problem.  Please see this link.  http://www.medscape.org/viewarticle/746602

So, I am thinking how herbal life product is helping in increase in testerone levels.  Can any one help what test I require to do for testing testerone levels.  At what time?
 

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« Reply #17273 on: 19/10/2012 16:54:52 »
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« Reply #17274 on: 19/10/2012 19:41:06 »
 Have we tracked how many of us have either been labeled(or actually have) bipolar or some other mood-related disorder?
I've been searching the forum but not coming up with much discussion on the topic. If it's definitely 'out there,' will someone please direct me to it?

Also, is there a summary of ideas from this forum that's been collected and put in some sort of abstract that's easy to access and review over time? (i think this used to be sent out with every new member's Welcome package). My (and several others) participation here can be sporadic, spanning months at a time, and having such a link would be nice. -thanks!
 

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