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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17725 on: 31/01/2013 09:49:00 »
I only get allergy and it converts to cold or cough after sometime after masturbation or night fall.Also problem is sneezing continously for 20-25 times or even more , no other problem is this POIS.


i get cold that is in the form of allergy (that is running nose and sneezing) almost after masturbation or even if i get night fall.
I am 100 % sure about it , if i dont do masturbation for say 7 - 10 days then i dont get cold (allergy that is running nose and sneezing) for that period of time .
Sneezing continously for 20-25 times is too much to handle for me .
Allergy last for 2-3 days if i dont take any medicine .
so i take anti allergy drug and get relive many times. is there any cure for it that is permanent .
i do heavy weight training everyday 7 days a week and i think this way i get some relive and i am fit and i dont get tried after doing workouts .
mine age is 29 years and i never involved in sex till now .
i want to ask if i get married and do sex then also will i get same
thing, if yes that will be a problem as i cant do much in a week.
Is there name for this disease or what it is called .

Hi,
Welcome to the board.

You may have POIS or Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome. POIS, as we understand it, is a syndrome that affects some people after they have an orgasm by making them feel ill. However, different sufferers have different symptoms. Some have mainly headaches and cognitive problems. Some have more flu-like symptoms. Some feel more fatigue than others.
It may not be a single disease and therefore there may not be a single cure.

As your symptoms are mostly allergic, have you been to your doctor to discuss allergies?
Your doctor may be able to refer you to a specific allergic or immunologist who can
1) perform tests
2) prescribe medication that may help you deal with itching, sinus problems etc.

i dont get any itching , what is sinus , i get only allergy which converts into cough or cold after some days. yes i do take allergy tablet and sometimes it works but sometimes not
thanks

What allergy tablets are you taking?
Doctors sometimes prescribe ketotifen or  leukotriene receptor antagonists for allergies when anti-histamines don't work effectively. I'd give you brand names but these are now "blacklisted terms" of the forum.
Ask your doctor about it? If they don't know then perhaps they could refer you to a specialist.

i take different types of tablets as in few weeks it dont works any more,  and that tablet is difficult to get as medical store person tells we cant give as this cause sleepiness after taking but asking him again and again they give the tablet.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17726 on: 31/01/2013 20:30:08 »
I've taken a mast cell stabiliser that did not make me drowsy. Perhaps you could talk to your doctor about this. They're prescription only.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17727 on: 03/02/2013 11:04:02 »
what good news about pois??
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17728 on: 08/02/2013 20:01:05 »
I've been taking a highly bio-active B-Complex once a night for the past 24 days. 7 days into b-complex I started 500mg of acetyl-L-carnitine morning and night for 13 days. About 4 days after I started ALC I noticed an improvement in my joint pain, muscle strength, eye burning, face irritation, scalp itchiness, and perhaps cognition.

I also took 500mg methionine once a morning for 6 days starting at day 7 of B-complex/ALC, but it seemed to cause a slight worsening of symptoms.

For the past 4 days I've only been taking B-complex to determine whether it or ALC or both were improving my symptoms. I still feel improved symptoms, but it might be a residual effect of the ALC.

This is the B-complex I'm using: http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-ultra-activated-b-complex-high-bioavailability-60-caps

Thiamin (vitamin B-1)                              54.4 mg   3,627%
(as benfotiamine)                                     
Riboflavin (as riboflavin 5'-phosphate)       50 mg   2,941%
Niacin (as inositol hexanicotinate)              100 mg   500%
Vitamin B-6
(as pyridoxal 5-phosphate)                       50 mg   2,500%
Folate                                                   800 mcg   200%
(as Quatrefolic? [6S]-5-Methyltetrahydrofolic acid equivalent to 1.6 mg of [6S]-5-Methyltetrahydrofolic acid, glucosamine salt)
Vitamin B-12                                           500 mcg   8,333%
(as methylcobalamin)
Biotin                                                      50 mcg   17%
Choline                                                   50 mg   *
(as choline dihydrogen citrate)
PABA (para-aminobenzoic acid)               50 mg   *
Pantethine (coenzyme A precursor)           50 mg   *
(from Pantesin? 80% pantethine)
Inositol                                                   25 mg   *
(from inositol hexanicotinate)

After analyzing my diet I noticed it looked low in b vitamins. This is the site I used to determine this: http://nutritiondata.self.com/
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17729 on: 09/02/2013 12:04:55 »
As the body uses methylcobalamin (methylated via methyfolate) to recycle methionine from homocysteine, adding more methionine may actually reduce the body's production of its own methionine which may lead to build up of the folic acid you take. Many biological reactions are rate limited, meaning in this case that the presence of SAM-e downstream from methionine you don't make yourself could rate limit the methylation process. I suspect this is a big problem with people taking SAM-e. They feel better as their bodies aren't getting enough SAM-e but they're throwing their bodies out of whack by not giving their bodies the enzymes to make SAM-e effectively themselves.

My genetic test suggested I needed methylfolate and methylcobalamin. Perhaps some extra NADH to help recycle BH4. I gave up taking taking methionine supplements.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17730 on: 09/02/2013 13:23:57 »
Do you still take SAM-e?
 

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« Reply #17731 on: 09/02/2013 16:50:51 »
Vincent M: No, for the same reason. The methionine cycle is explained here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Adenosyl_methionine

I think that depending on someone's genetics, they may feel better when they take methionine or SAM-e. If so I believe a better way to achieve the same improvement is to look a few steps prior to this in the methylation cycle and to supplement methylfolate and methylcobalamin.
It may be better to give the body more control over the amount of SAM-e it produces rather than force feeding exogenous SAM-e. I haven't seen studies to prove this but I wonder if those who benefit from SAM-e for depression relief may be the same group as those who benefit from methylfolate or methylcobalamin.
The key may be methyl-donation and its role in the management of inflammation and creation of neurotransmitters.
Just some thoughts...
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17732 on: 09/02/2013 17:34:24 »
Hello, I am looking for a P.O.I.S. sufferer the lives in Montreal, Canada; please message me :)

Mod:  Please don't repeat identical (unsolicited) posts in the thread.
I realize you're looking for contacts, but two identical posts in a week won't help
« Last Edit: 09/02/2013 22:51:48 by CliffordK »
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17733 on: 10/02/2013 07:19:27 »
Hello, I am looking for a P.O.I.S. sufferer the lives in Montreal, Canada; please message me :)

You just looking to speak with someone in your same city?  (I'm not from montreal btw)
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17734 on: 10/02/2013 07:47:04 »
which medcine should i take for inujry testicles .i got hit and i have pain and i think blood is clotted there.generally what medicine should i take?
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17735 on: 10/02/2013 07:49:36 »
I'm currently following in the old footsteps of girlwind, michael8028 and a few others on the track of an adrenal and thyroid hypothesis.  Herman helped show me, from the labs I sent him, that my Cortisol is low and that I'm Hypothyroid.  I also sent my labs to Valerie Taylor, the creator of this website: http://adrenalsweb.org/   She went through my labs and said that she also believes that I'm hypothyroid and have adrenal insufficiency. 

From my numbers, there's a lot of information online to support that this may be true, but no scientific studies to confirm it.  I'm currently sending my labs around to a couple endocrinologists to see if any agree with this hypothesis.  Unfortunately, most of my metrics are still within their respective ranges, so despite what seems like a lot of evidence to me, the avg Endo is sure to dismiss there's anything wrong.   

That's all I've got, but I thought it was worthwhile to let ya'll know what I'm up to.  If you have a thyroid panel completed, i recommend contacting Valerie at the website above and getting her thoughts.  She read my labs within just a few minutes over the phone and recommended that i start taking hormone supplements - namely hydrocortisone for the cortisol and T3 for the thyroid.  It's worth noting that these medications aren't to be taken experimentally, because once you start taking them your body will reduce its own production and you may need them for life.  Thus, I'm actively seeking more information now.

Besides Herman's recent suggestions, this forum hasn't discussed Adrenals and Thyroid in a long, long time.  Perhaps someone like B_Jim, Ccconfucius, or another member that's been here a while can chime in with an explanation of why not. 
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17736 on: 10/02/2013 08:16:49 »
somebody please help.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17737 on: 10/02/2013 10:54:40 »
which medcine should i take for inujry testicles .i got hit and i have pain and i think blood is clotted there.generally what medicine should i take?
You NEED to go to your doctor. This forum cannot tell you what medicines to take for injury to your testicles. Particularly if you are in pain there could be many reasons including bruising and torsion. Please go to your doctor.
 

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« Reply #17738 on: 10/02/2013 16:53:13 »
in pak docttors dont undersatnd anything,when i got injury on left one many years ago i keep visiting them and all they did ...nothing
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17739 on: 10/02/2013 17:45:02 »
Correction to my post about my b-vitamin trial. I had actually been taking the b-complex 7 days before I started ALC and for 24 days total. I think that was a bit too long to be taking that much once a night since it seemed I was starting to get odd tiny pain flashes in my joints that I previously didn't have. The past 2 days I stopped taking it and this sensation disappeared but my POIS symptoms still are generally improved.
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« Reply #17740 on: 11/02/2013 07:22:01 »
Correction to my post about my b-vitamin trial. I had actually been taking the b-complex 7 days before I started ALC and for 24 days total. I think that was a bit too long to be taking that much once a night since it seemed I was starting to get odd tiny pain flashes in my joints that I previously didn't have. The past 2 days I stopped taking it and this sensation disappeared but my POIS symptoms still are generally improved.

That's odd. You seem to be well within safe levels of b6. Just check again how much you're taking? Methyl-b12 can cause some nerve tingling but that may not be a bad thing in all circumstances as methylcobalamin / methyl-b12 is often used to treat diabetic neuropathy (nerve damage). It seems that neuropathy itself resembles a tingling sensation (initially) while the repair of nerves that were damaged may also trigger an initial "tingling" sensation.

Here's a paper http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0022510X94902909
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Ultra-high dose methylcobalamin promotes nerve regeneration in experimental acrylamide neuropathy. Tetsuya Watanabe, Ryuji Kaji , Nobuyuki Oka, William Bara and Jun Kimura Department of Neurology, Kyoto University Hospital, Shogoin, Sakyoku, Kyoto 606-01, Journal of Neurological Sciences, Vol 122, Issue 2, April 1994, Pages 140143
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17741 on: 11/02/2013 07:28:53 »
in pak docttors dont undersatnd anything,when i got injury on left one many years ago i keep visiting them and all they did ...nothing
Hi,
I don't believe there are no doctors in Pakistan who can treat an injury to the groin.
It doesn't make sense. In any case, we are not licensed to treat you and cannot recommend a medicine.
When you see people discussing medicines and supplements here they're discussing things that worked for them. Nobody is offering treatment (at least they shouldn't be).

If you just want information about such injuries surely you can google "testicular injuries". Some are very serious and require medical treatment by a doctor.
So far, nobody here has suggested a connection between testicular injuries and POIS so it doesn't appear a relevant discussion fr this forum.

Thanks. 
 

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« Reply #17742 on: 11/02/2013 07:34:24 »
Correction to my post about my b-vitamin trial. I had actually been taking the b-complex 7 days before I started ALC and for 24 days total. I think that was a bit too long to be taking that much once a night since it seemed I was starting to get odd tiny pain flashes in my joints that I previously didn't have. The past 2 days I stopped taking it and this sensation disappeared but my POIS symptoms still are generally improved.

That's odd. You seem to be well within safe levels of b6. Just check again how much you're taking? Methyl-b12 can cause some nerve tingling but that may not be a bad thing in all circumstances as methylcobalamin / methyl-b12 is often used to treat diabetic neuropathy (nerve damage). It seems that neuropathy itself resembles a tingling sensation (initially) while the repair of nerves that were damaged may also trigger an initial "tingling" sensation.

Here's a paper http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0022510X94902909
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Ultra-high dose methylcobalamin promotes nerve regeneration in experimental acrylamide neuropathy. Tetsuya Watanabe, Ryuji Kaji , Nobuyuki Oka, William Bara and Jun Kimura Department of Neurology, Kyoto University Hospital, Shogoin, Sakyoku, Kyoto 606-01, Journal of Neurological Sciences, Vol 122, Issue 2, April 1994, Pages 140143
And you're also taking ALCAR which seems to also stimulate nerve growth. Did the tingling persist?
I haven't experienced it myself but I did experience a bizarre desire to chew things (pens mostly) when I took some larger doses of methylb12.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17743 on: 11/02/2013 17:52:43 »
Interesting. It's possible that the sensation was nerve repair, but since it felt like it would be painful if it intensified I didn't want to risk it. Especially considering I've already gotten an improvement in my symptoms. You're right that I wasn't taking an overdose according to the available data, but I know my body often reacts to substances differently than most. I haven't gotten the sensation today either.

I took 500mg acetyl-L-carnitine this morning and will be taking it morning and night for the next ~ two weeks to see if that was part of my symptom improvement.

I'm used to trying herbs that take effect immediately so I'm still getting used to these longer trials.
 

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« Reply #17744 on: 11/02/2013 22:23:56 »
I measure progress over a longer timeframe now. I don't expect overnight results.
 

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« Reply #17745 on: 13/02/2013 07:00:56 »
http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1687495 [nofollow] here is an interesting article revealing properties of B3/niacin to fight candida.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #17746 on: 13/02/2013 09:49:28 »
http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1687495 here is an interesting article revealing properties of B3/niacin to fight candida.

Thanks. Interesting link.
 

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« Reply #17747 on: 13/02/2013 11:41:48 »
Yeap. It's also mentioned that such supplements as olive leaf oil, garlik also contribute to treating candida.
And here is the list of typical candida symptoms:
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What are some systemic symptoms of candida overgrowth?

Symptoms that can be caused by yeast (but may also have other causes) are:
Chronic fatigue, or fatigue in mid-afternoon or after meals
Food cravings, especially for sweets
Depression, brain fog, poor concentration, irritability
Hyperactivity and learning disabilities in children
Loss of sexual desire, dry vaginal area
A reaction or aversion to perfumes, dust, cut grass, tobacco smoke
Allergies or hypersensitivity to foods, chemicals, molds, pollen, perfume, tobacco smoke
Immune impairment, autoimmune disorders
Headaches, stiff neck and back, joint pains
Alternating constipation and diarrhea, or either one
Bladder infections, vaginitis
Sunlight sensitivity, light hurts eyes
An overall feeling of not being well
Bloat and gas. Yeast produces gas and thus bloat, like the gas bubbles that cause the rising of bread.
 

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« Reply #17748 on: 13/02/2013 21:21:40 »
For anyone who hasn't visited poiscenter lately there has been some good news. There will almost definitely be a research study relatively soon(not sure how soon, but I'm guessing about a year).

It might make it easier for the researchers if we gather more data on our individual locations and abilities to travel. If you haven't yet you can post your country at this thread: http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=299.msg3783#msg3783
 

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« Reply #17749 on: 16/02/2013 00:36:54 »
According to Stef, the researcher will be determined around mid-late November this year.
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