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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18100 on: 16/04/2013 22:57:51 »
Interesting table of adrenals/thyroid symptoms:

http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-symptoms-matrix
 

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« Reply #18101 on: 17/04/2013 10:47:59 »
There is something I wanted to share :

It's been 3 times I follow the same POIS cycle.

After a POIS period(4-5days), I totally abstain from O...i'm OK for 6 to 7 days...and then POIS come back even if I don't O for about 10 days....I don't notice NE. If I wanna recover from this I need to go through a new cycle with 4 days of hell POIS.
I don't know how to explain that...It could be stress or it could be something else.

What about you guys ?

 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18102 on: 17/04/2013 15:03:05 »
 

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« Reply #18103 on: 17/04/2013 16:58:14 »
Would like to add my symptoms once again if it helps someone figure out a cure for this f*cking problem of mine...

- brain fog, blurry mental state
- speech problem, cant find the words
- bad memory
- bloated stomach
- bowl issues
- overactive saliva production
- nervous state of mind
- sometimes depressed
- always low on energy
- cant recooperate after exercise
- sometimes severe flue after orgasm, as well as bad throat and dry eyes
- constant coughin and cronical lung issues
- dry skin and poor hair
- horrible sleep pattern with falling asleep at 4 am due to fatigue
- impossible to function on normal hours, as going up at 6 am and going to work
- going from great to poor academic results, traumatic experience.

what helps me:
- mild exercise
- daily walks in sunshine, sunshine helps a lot
- some vitamins and nutritions help
- drinking tea helps stomach and bowl
- not drinking cold water helps my stomach
- going to psychiatrist for stress relief
- taking calm bath at home
- all kinds of massage does magic
- acupuncture on top of head, had amazing effect 10 years ago, as if i had an pressure in head that was released
- seeing psychiatrist on regular basis.
- not masturbating as this gives stronger orgasm than normal sex.
- remembering that most doctors (in this matter) are completely incompetent, i must push this matter to get any help from them, they wont do it for me, they always diagnose me as hypocondric or depressed.
- discussing this matter on a regular basis with my partner, who by the way is a wonderful and understanding woman, it can work with an ongoing relationship, i am living proof of it.
- regularly checking this forum to see that there is development in the subject.
- staying away from very stressful moments both at work and home since they will push me over the edge and cause trauma or deep depression.
- trying to get a regular life with daily routines and lots of sleep. good sleep helps the most.
- staying away from all kinds of pornography

always do this before sex:
- eat well and lots some days before sex; meat and sallad with garlic dressing works well for me.
- take a niacin, B-vitamin, zink, magnesium and multivitamin pill
- warm up by not going into thrusting immediately, work up the heat.

during sex:
- get under the sheets so you dont get cold.
- if you want to be symptom free, dont ejaculate.
- if you are about to ejaculate, never ever hold back the spermicide inside the penis.
- at climax, try your best to relax, dont make it too intense. Breathe naturally, most guys forget it at climax.
- make sure you empty the sack, let it all out.

after sex:
- go directly to shower, drag the penis back and forth to make sure you get everything out.
- take a really good cleansing shower with lots of soap and always directly after shower go to bathroom to urinate and "clean the pipe". Make sure to remove any spermicide from body and system.
- take yet again a niacin pill
- drink lots of warm water, like tea, but not coffee
- have a fruit, like a banana, gives quick energy.
- stay warm with lots of clothes on
- dont try to fall asleep immediately, it wont work
- listen to calm and relaxing music, avoid anything that puts a strain on body, heart or mind.
- make sure to eat lots of protein and sallad up to 7 days after sex.make sure to eat many different ingredients.
- up to 2 weeks after sex avoid all kinds of heavy duty work and strain on body and mind.
- dont have sex more then every two weeks if you are not on a treatment or have a plan for how to cope with the symptoms.

Last but for me most important:
Never ever try to get healthier by having sex if you are feeling tired, weak, depressed, confused etc. Many newspaper will tell you its good for you to have lots of sex and that it reveals you from headache, pain, bad mood etc. This is not the case for those of us suffering from POIS. Before having sex you should feel strong and healthy. Not the other way around. If you are feeling week the orgasm will turn you even weaker.

If you cant ejaculate without severe symptoms, then dont do it. Put your focus on giving your partner a great orgasm. Become a master of the female orgasm, its actually fun and it strengthens your self esteem during this painful period of your life. Dont forget, there will be a cure for this, for sure.
« Last Edit: 21/04/2013 12:01:02 by johanstefansson »
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18104 on: 17/04/2013 17:19:15 »
 

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« Reply #18105 on: 17/04/2013 20:45:25 »
I am new here so I am not sure what your theories are.

I was diagnosed with Crohn disease (but only a gluten free diet has helped me, meaning I could be Celiac but no one wants to authorize a capsule endoscopy), past sufferer of asthma and Cushing syndrome. My biggest problems are that POIS gives me flare ups of the IBD disease.  My symptoms are: brain fog, sinusitis, fatigue, bad memory, diarrhea, intese pain in the small intestine(ileum), violent mood changes and sore throat. Since diamine oxidase (enzyme that breaks down histamine) is produced in the small intestine (which is damaged), I theorize that I may have histamine intolerance. My other problem are nocturnal emissions that are happening in less than 5 days all the time (wich destroys me), How can I stop this nocturnal BS? I can't find anything about stopping that. On a side note, I never even noticed POIS while on Prednisone(which induced
Cushing's syndrome), but the secondary effects made me stop.

Here is some info on histamine intolerance but I suggest you all look it up by yourselves, as I am too ocupied to elaborate right now.

http://lsialab.com/gb/Histamine_Intolerance_Test

http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/275/4/R969.full

http://histamino.wordpress.com/category/histamine-intolerance/symptoms-of-histamine-intolerance/

http://www.allergyuk.org/common-food-intolerances/histamine-intolerance

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/85/5/1185.full
 

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« Reply #18106 on: 17/04/2013 21:53:23 »
My biggest problems are that POIS gives me flare ups of the IBD disease.  My symptoms are: brain fog, sinusitis, fatigue, bad memory, diarrhea, intese pain in the small intestine(ileum), violent mood changes and sore throat .... On a side note, I never even noticed POIS while on Prednisone(which induced Cushing's syndrome), but the secondary effects made me stop.

May want to consider the possibility of systemic vasculitis caused by autoimmunity as the cause :
it could cause all of the above and would go into remission with systemic steroid treatment (Prednisone).

If your sinusitis causes nasal bleeding have an ENT doctor, who knows what vasculitis looks like, scope your nose, (more accessible than your small intestine) ...

Quote from: mayoclinic
Vasculitis Symptoms ... Fatigue , Nerve problems [CNS & PNS], inflammation of the blood vessels in your nose, sinuses, throat ...
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vasculitis/DS00513/DSECTION=symptoms

Quote from: American Journal of Physiology
The association between IBD and systemic vasculitis is well known ... Examination of the resected intestine of CD [Crohn's Disease] patients has found evidence of granulomatous microvasculitis , which suggests common pathophysiological mechanisms 
http://ajpheart.physiology.org/content/285/5/H1791.full

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Nose: the inside of the nose is often affected by vasculitis, so there can be nosebleeds.
http://www.kidney.org.uk/Medical-Info/kidney-disease/vasc.html


BTW anti-histamine medications are used to treat vasculitis ...

Quote from: merck
Vasculitis treatment ... Antihistamines and sometimes low-dose corticosteroids
http://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/musculoskeletal_and_connective_tissue_disorders/vasculitis/cutaneous_vasculitis.html
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18107 on: 18/04/2013 05:48:47 »
Would like to add my symptoms once again if it helps someone figure out a cure for this f*cking problem of mine...


Haha i laughed when i read that. I feel the same way sometimes.  Im gonna tey not drinking cold water, never considered that before, thanks
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18108 on: 19/04/2013 21:28:58 »
Dear POIS sufferers,

Due to  a lof of interest  in  balancing and  me not being able to cope with all these e-mails.  I have a suggestion.  Anyone  who is interested in getting  balanced and  getting rid of  all your deceases   and POIS,  can   contact     Catherine  Richards,    her e-mail is  Kater_am@yahoo.com.  She is  ARL practitioner . You can  do your hairtest with her.  According to your  hairtest results you can  either go on nutritional balancing program  which is excellent , or  if you dont have discipline or  you cant afford it, I could help you to get  balanced  .  I recieve a lot of   letters from people who have  not done any  tests ,  sorry , but I cant just make stuff up, I  dont have  that much time to  do the guessing and leading people on  daily  basis.

Good luck,
Herman
 

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« Reply #18109 on: 20/04/2013 18:17:42 »
... contact Catherine  Richards, ...  You can  do your hairtest with her.  According to your  hairtest results you can  either go on nutritional balancing program ...

Before you contact Ms Richards please read this first ... http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/hair.html
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18110 on: 20/04/2013 18:20:53 »
Thanks for the warning RD!

On a different topic has anyone heard from Nathan123?  He was suppose to have a follow up appointment with his Ayurveda doctor about his successful treatment.  Anyone know what happened?
 

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« Reply #18111 on: 20/04/2013 21:16:44 »
It's been two years since I discovered this forum (I was a silent reader until July last year though). It was absolutely one of the best moments in my life because that was the day my obscure illness went from being some abstract thing (that I thought I might never get rid of) to a 100% concrete illness with a cure on the horizon. And I couldn't think of any better people to be around on our journey to getting this cure, those like demografx & Daveman, and Daniel for being such a maverick and always very familiar, clear and rational, and of course kurtosis and everyone else here. We are finally all closer than ever to solving this problem and getting back our functional lives. Thanks all! :)
 

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« Reply #18112 on: 20/04/2013 22:29:20 »
You're a good dude Prancer.  This month marks my two-year anniversary as well. 

I've PM'd Nathan twice over the last 5 days and haven't heard back.  It's not like him not to respond, hopefully he's alright.
 

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« Reply #18113 on: 21/04/2013 10:08:55 »
Has anyone actualy tried Dr. K. L*n's tonics, potions & sanke oils from www.act [nofollow]**nl*ve.com?
I'm thinking about ordering some just to know if it's b.s or not (it's pricey!)
I have seen his theories being mentioned - seemingly independantly - on other websites, e.g,  excess dopamine being converted into epiniphrine & norepinephrine & excess prolactin causing vascular constriction, all due to taxation on HPA axis.
Where the heck has Nathan gone anyway?
Thoughts?
 

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« Reply #18114 on: 21/04/2013 10:28:50 »
Has anyone actualy tried Dr. K. L*n's tonics, potions & sanke oils from www.act**nl*ve.com?
I'm thinking about ordering some just to know if it's b.s or not (it's pricey!)
I have seen his theories being mentioned - seemingly independantly - on other websites, e.g,  excess dopamine being converted into epiniphrine & norepinephrine & excess prolactin causing vascular constriction, all due to taxation on HPA axis.
Where the heck has Nathan gone anyway?
Thoughts?
dont waste your time and money, that was the first thing i tried. It didnt work. It is all crap.
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« Reply #18115 on: 21/04/2013 19:34:32 »
dr. lin's stuff is hocus pocus.  please search the forum for his name and you'll find an account of many members who were swindled by him in the past. 
 

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« Reply #18116 on: 22/04/2013 12:48:58 »
Hi all...

Just wanna give you an optimistic update in my POIS case ; I had the worst 6 month in my life(sept2012-March2013) ; I was about 75% of the time in POIS ; SSRI discontinuation syndrome(after 2 years of paxil) probably had an important influence...My advice : never use SSRI's

I've been feeling much better for a month ; 5/6 days of POIS for the month wich is definitly a life change for me(I was about 20/month the past 3 years)...What I do/take :
-Exercise every day or every two days(about 30' jogging) - very difficult at the beginning but it has become essential after a month...and i've much more energy in the day.
-Eat as healthy as possible - minimum junk food and sugar
-Sun exposure
-1mg vit B12
-Krill oil
-1g niaciniamide/day...Niacin flush sometimes before sleep(I think it helps me the day after)
-magnesium
-vitamine C

When I'm symptomatic, I take Ketoprophen + propanolol(block epinephrine/norepinephrine - no more than once a week)...It reduce symtoms by 50%
I've also been taking piracetam...to soon to conclude anything but it has so far an amazing effect in my cognition..i just take 1,6g when I'm symtomatic and it works great...almost no cognitive symtoms.

One month is probably to soon to say alleluia but I restart considering my future and I'm relatively optimistic...I know it's not a cure, but this protocol help me to leave close to normal.

I wanna add that I'm not the kind of guy who find a cure avery month...nothing that that I tried before really helped...I spent about 500 since I discovered the forum.
When I O...i try to keep the sexual arousal as long as possible...it's apparently stimulates Oxytocin release wich could help to regulates the other Neurotransmitors/hormone and avoid spikes.

I hope it helps
 

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« Reply #18117 on: 22/04/2013 22:41:27 »
Hi all...

Just wanna give you an optimistic update in my POIS case ; I had the worst 6 month in my life(sept2012-March2013) ; I was about 75% of the time in POIS ; SSRI discontinuation syndrome(after 2 years of paxil) probably had an important influence...My advice : never use SSRI's

how does your training effect your sleep pattern? better or worse?

when i train extensively my sleep disappears totally, can be awake for days.
 

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« Reply #18118 on: 23/04/2013 07:56:04 »
Hello all, it has been a while since I have been here.  It might be a bit early for me to claim anything but I am a bit excited with a new recovery solution I discovered.  So I don't think I can state the exact product I am using because that is advertising.  But what I have been doing is drinking about 2 fl oz bottle of it after I ejaculate and use one niacin pill.  I found even if I orgasm without preparation I can reduce the symptoms drastically by taking this "dietary supplement" within the hour and then again the next day.  The is a detox product that claims to cleanse at the cellular level and protect against oxidative stress.  It has tumeric to helf the body with efficient detoxification.  It also has burdock for cleansing the circulatory system.  I don't buy this product so I cant really recommend you do the same but I work at a beverage processing plant that has a lot of dietary supplements.  So I have free access to these products and I think this particular one has given me the strongest effect.     I wish someone else could try it too but I don't want to post the name out lol.  I guess I could say some of the ingredients though it is a long list.  IT has Vitamin B3 B6 B12,  Ionic alfalfa, Ashwagandha, Aloe Vera, Fulvic Acid.  The product is also known to work as some kind of digestive aid so I don't get the stomach cramps and bloating like usual. 
I am exicited because I feel like this product gives me some energy back and reduces my crazy headaches by a lot.

I also have used a cactus anti inflammatory wellness drink that worked pretty good too, but not as well as the current one I am trying.
 

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« Reply #18119 on: 23/04/2013 11:14:54 »
Hi all...

Just wanna give you an optimistic update in my POIS case ; I had the worst 6 month in my life(sept2012-March2013) ; I was about 75% of the time in POIS ; SSRI discontinuation syndrome(after 2 years of paxil) probably had an important influence...My advice : never use SSRI's

how does your training effect your sleep pattern? better or worse?

when i train extensively my sleep disappears totally, can be awake for days.

If I do it too late and at the beginning it affected my sleep patterns ; I guess your problem is just transitory
 

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« Reply #18120 on: 23/04/2013 15:10:58 »

when i train extensively my sleep disappears totally, can be awake for days.

This many not apply, but you could have difficulty falling asleep if your body is detoxing from heavy metal exposure.  it can cause your mind to race.  perhaps that explains it?  i don't know if this is medically sound advice, but i think working out is good for you, and if you can't sleep after just take a benadryl.  I think after a week or so of working out your sleep will return to normal. 

Are you sitting in a sauna after your workouts by any chance?  that would speed up a detox as well
 

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« Reply #18121 on: 23/04/2013 20:04:14 »
Ok I orgasmed like twice today and took some of the detox cleanse after, let's see if it can stand up against consecutive orgasms.  I think I do still feel very tired in the morning but the cognitive problems are almost gone I believe.
 

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« Reply #18122 on: 24/04/2013 05:44:43 »
Isagenix - Cleanse for Life.  I don't see the problem naming products if you or nobody you know gets a financial benefit from it. If we're moderating ourselves, I think we should allow it when there's clearly no conflict of interest.   
 

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« Reply #18123 on: 24/04/2013 17:26:47 »
... contact Catherine  Richards, ...  You can  do your hairtest with her.  According to your  hairtest results you can  either go on nutritional balancing program ...

Before you contact Ms Richards please read this first ... http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/hair.html

Quackwatch has helped many people to steer clear of questionable treatments. Especially "candida".

Thanks for the alert.
 

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« Reply #18124 on: 25/04/2013 04:23:34 »
Hey guys,

Do you feel a light sense of psychosis after not having ejaculated in over 10 days or so.

By light psychosis I mean:

Confused
Irritated
Impulsive
Loss of compassion
Loss of spontaneity

And other feelings related to these?

I am curious to hear your answers, thank you.

Chris.
 

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