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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18125 on: 25/04/2013 11:57:40 »
Do you feel a light sense of psychosis after not having ejaculated in over 10 days or so.

By light psychosis I mean:

Confused
Irritated
Impulsive
Loss of compassion
Loss of spontaneity

And other feelings related to these?

Chris, I feel all of those, especially lack of compassion.
The abstinence approach only works to a degree for me.
I am currently taking codien, pseudoephidrine (cold & flu tablets) & alcohol & I feel back to my normal self (pre-pois). I have no joint or muscle pain & I feel strong with good posture. I am at least 50% more productive at work blah blah blah...the bottom line is I feel & function like a normal person. People may say drugs are bad & they destroy your body and so on & so forth, but to that I say: POIS destroys your body! My spine is mangled &  deformed with arthiritis. So any way, opiod receptor may be a worthy avenue of investigation. I had read somewhere about a theory of endorphin deficit. This might have something to do with why pois is bought on by extreme physical exertion in some. F*%ked if I know. 
 

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« Reply #18126 on: 26/04/2013 06:47:24 »
I wasn't too eager to throw out a name until I was sure the effects could be replicated again.  After my multiple orgasm I got back a lot of the POIS symptoms that day of.  However I feel I am recovering faster now.  It also has completely removed the stomach cramps and bloating I usually get.  I have not experienced any of it while on cleanser.
 

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« Reply #18127 on: 26/04/2013 13:23:52 »
I will be seeing a doctor soon, will keep you posted about what happens.

I am hoping on some support from you guys with dealing with my doctor because they just dont want to believe me; - "POIS, never heard of, cant be it"

Swedish healthcare just aint the same no longer, f*cking sh1t country nowadays.
 

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« Reply #18128 on: 26/04/2013 13:26:08 »
Could someone please update wikipedia on latest development?
 

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« Reply #18129 on: 26/04/2013 13:31:07 »
Yesterday i had a nervous time going to a job intervue, suffered very similar symptoms simular to POIS today, the intervue drained me completely and the day after the shock comes. Anyone having similar issues and experiences?
 

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« Reply #18130 on: 26/04/2013 13:43:54 »
I could need some help with my personal thoughts about POIS.
Some questions too all POIS men:

- Has anyone here not suffered a trauma in life?

- Has anyone not experienced changes in sleep pattern?

- Has anyone not suffered from porn-, sex- or any other addiction?

- Has anyone a partner that you are completely satisfied with sexually and in every other way?

- Has anyone here only suffered from flu-like symptoms and not mental, cognitive symptoms?

- Has anyone here not had any surgical procedure carried out on body or penis ever in life?

- Has anyone always had a very healthy diet during entire life?
« Last Edit: 26/04/2013 13:46:30 by johanstefansson »
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18131 on: 26/04/2013 18:44:39 »
hi sorry not able to post on 16th taking a delay of 10 days wanted to post how I am feeling after stopping the tablets.  Presently from the god's sake, I am good and fine.  There is no POIS symtoms and having an avg of 4 to 5 o in a week. 

Had appointment with my docotor on 16th.  Suggested me to stop all the medicines.  Presently, no medicines has been taken from 16th and stopped diet restriction as posed by the doctor.  Eating what I wanted and feeling good.  Happy to say that I 'am cured and POIS not bounce back for this time and final time and doctor give assurance that POIS will not come in my life again.  Hence, for my POIS there is no more treatment required and its cured. 

Further, due to the POIS I am overweighted, taken many medicines.  As a preventive medicines to cleanse body once, doctors suggested me to have panchakarma theraphy for 12 days where it would be do for preventive for future diseases and to refresh the body.  Starting the theraphy from tomorrow. 

So, I get a great relief from my POIS.  When I was in a POIS stage, I took a oath to god saying that I will help others in our society if I cured from my POIS.  I already started this exercise contributing to others at my level best. 

 

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« Reply #18132 on: 26/04/2013 20:53:27 »
... has anyone heard from Nathan123?  He was suppose to have a follow up appointment with his Ayurveda doctor about his successful treatment.

... wanted to post how I am feeling after stopping the tablets.  Presently from the god's sake, I am good and fine.

Quote from: wikipedia.org
According to a 1990 study on ayurvedic medicines in India, 41 percent of the products tested contained arsenic, and 64 percent contained lead and mercury
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda#Safety

If anyone was taking poisonous arsenic / lead / mercury but then stopped they'd feel better.

... doctors suggested me to have panchakarma theraphy for 12 days where it would be do for preventive for future diseases and to refresh the body...

No physician worthy of the name would  suggest 12 days of vomiting, enemas and bleeding ...
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panchakarma (Pancha Karma therapy, rejuvenation therapy): Ayurvedic group of five "purificatory steps" or "elimination therapies." Panchakarma comprises: (1) emesis therapy ("therapeutic vomiting"); (2) purgation therapy -- evacuation of the bowels with a laxative; (3) errhine therapy (nasal insufflation therapy) -- intranasal application of "decongestants" such as medicated oils, powdered herbs, and ghee (fat derived from butter of cow or buffalo origin); (4) oily enema therapy; and (5) decoction (watery) enema therapy. Some Ayurvedists regard the two types of enema therapy as one step and bloodletting therapy (Raktamoksha) as the fifth.
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/dictionary/mdp.html
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« Reply #18133 on: 26/04/2013 21:28:07 »
I could need some help with my personal thoughts about POIS.
Some questions too all POIS men:

- Has anyone here not suffered a trauma in life?

- Has anyone not experienced changes in sleep pattern?

- Has anyone not suffered from porn-, sex- or any other addiction?

- Has anyone a partner that you are completely satisfied with sexually and in every other way?

- Has anyone here only suffered from flu-like symptoms and not mental, cognitive symptoms?

- Has anyone here not had any surgical procedure carried out on body or penis ever in life?

- Has anyone always had a very healthy diet during entire life?

1) I had accidental electric shock just before I got pois, but I really don't think it caused the pois.
2) Sometimes it's harder for me to fall asleep and also to wake up.
3) Not sure, but I crave orgasm/sex very much when I abstain for a long time (like now).
4) I think I'm pretty satisfied, so that's okay.
5) If anything, I suffer mostly mental/cognitive symptoms and less flu-like.
6) I have never had any.
7) My diet is not the healthiest, but I have no health problems because of that (not at all overweight or anything).
 

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« Reply #18134 on: 27/04/2013 01:34:54 »
My biggest problems are that POIS gives me flare ups of the IBD disease.  My symptoms are: brain fog, sinusitis, fatigue, bad memory, diarrhea, intese pain in the small intestine(ileum), violent mood changes and sore throat .... On a side note, I never even noticed POIS while on Prednisone(which induced Cushing's syndrome), but the secondary effects made me stop.

May want to consider the possibility of systemic vasculitis caused by autoimmunity as the cause :
it could cause all of the above and would go into remission with systemic steroid treatment (Prednisone).

If your sinusitis causes nasal bleeding have an ENT doctor, who knows what vasculitis looks like, scope your nose, (more accessible than your small intestine) ...

Quote from: mayoclinic
Vasculitis Symptoms ... Fatigue , Nerve problems [CNS & PNS], inflammation of the blood vessels in your nose, sinuses, throat ...
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vasculitis/DS00513/DSECTION=symptoms

Quote from: American Journal of Physiology
The association between IBD and systemic vasculitis is well known ... Examination of the resected intestine of CD [Crohn's Disease] patients has found evidence of granulomatous microvasculitis , which suggests common pathophysiological mechanisms 
http://ajpheart.physiology.org/content/285/5/H1791.full

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Nose: the inside of the nose is often affected by vasculitis, so there can be nosebleeds.
http://www.kidney.org.uk/Medical-Info/kidney-disease/vasc.html


BTW anti-histamine medications are used to treat vasculitis ...

Quote from: merck
Vasculitis treatment ... Antihistamines and sometimes low-dose corticosteroids
http://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/musculoskeletal_and_connective_tissue_disorders/vasculitis/cutaneous_vasculitis.html
Interesting suggestion. I had a ANA test and turned out negative so that is not it. Blood tests showed I have anemia. High iron dosage has helped me to recuperate from POIS a fair bit.
 

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« Reply #18135 on: 27/04/2013 02:39:01 »
May want to consider the possibility of systemic vasculitis caused by autoimmunity as the cause :
it could cause all of the above and would go into remission with systemic steroid treatment (Prednisone).
Interesting suggestion. I had a ANA test and turned out negative so that is not it.

Negative ANA does not rule out vasculitis, nor does a negative ANCA.
[ those with ANCA-associated vasculitis can have a negative ANCA test during remission ].

Small-vessel vasculitis (and pseudo-vasculitis) can cause distinctive diamond-shapes on skin and mucous-membrane, more obvious on mucous-membrane as diamond-shaped bleeding-ulcers. This is why I was suggesting an ENT doctor who could recognise vasculits has look up your nose if your nose bleeds. The same type of markings can occur in the bowel in IBD but inside the nose (and palate) are easier to inspect than your small-intestine.


http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=18961.msg217136#msg217136


... High iron dosage has helped me to recuperate from POIS a fair bit.
Crohns disease can cause iron-deficiency, (via malabsorption and/or occult-bleeding) ... http://www.crohnsforum.com/showthread.php?t=21546
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18136 on: 27/04/2013 04:31:57 »
Is that a picture of inside someone's nose?  I'm sorry, but this is absolutely disgusting. 
 

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« Reply #18137 on: 27/04/2013 04:40:43 »
fornicationDENIED, would you please confirm that your nose isn't bleeding so that we can rule our vasculitis and go back to discussing POIS?  Also, if your body looks anything like the above pictures, go see a doctor immediately.
 

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« Reply #18138 on: 27/04/2013 10:03:56 »
Hi all,

Anybody ever investigate the Aluminium toxicity lead ? Suposed symtoms of Al toxicity interestingly close to ours. Can you link the beginning of your POIS symtoms to an abnormal Al exposure(vaccin, utilisation of aluminum chlorure deodorant, etc) ?
 

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« Reply #18139 on: 27/04/2013 12:34:39 »
Is that a picture of inside someone's nose?  I'm sorry, but this is absolutely disgusting. 

What some people are describing as POIS could be systemic-vasculitis exacerbated by the vasodilation which occurs with orgasm. Systemic-vasculitis often, but not always, includes nose bleeds. The diamond shapes on skin and mucous-membrane are a tell-tale diagnostic sign of small-vessel vasculopathy, either vasculitis or pseudo-vasculitis.

What is being described in this monstrous thread as POIS could be different illnesses, some already known to medical science and treatable, (e.g. vasculitis). "Disgusting" pictures like the above could enable some reading this thread to be correctly diagnosed and treated.
 

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« Reply #18140 on: 27/04/2013 15:43:03 »
I never had any skin mark or nose bleeding, but I am getting a capsule endoscopy so I will keep it in mind.
My gastro intestinal issues were Abdominal pain, diarrhea, mucosa, malnutrition, and GI bleeding
I had ulcers in the large intestine and inflammation in the ileum (small intestine) and diagnosed with Crohn disease but the ulcers could have been caused by Nsaids (advil, etc.) used for muscle pain thanks to malnutrition causing poor muscle mass. Also, a gluten free diet helped significantly ( possible Celiac?). Interestingly, a Crohn disease study showed that poor blood supply causing immune deficiency
http://www.webmd.com/ibd-crohns-disease/crohns-disease/news/20060224/viagra-may-help-crohns-disease 
Could systemic vasculitis cause poor blood supply to the intestines?
 

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« Reply #18141 on: 27/04/2013 15:44:53 »
Is that a picture of inside someone's nose?  I'm sorry, but this is absolutely disgusting. 

What some people are describing as POIS could be systemic-vasculitis exacerbated by the vasodilation which occurs with orgasm. Systemic-vasculitis often, but not always, includes nose bleeds. The diamond shapes on skin and mucous-membrane are a tell-tale diagnostic sign of small-vessel vasculopathy, either vasculitis or pseudo-vasculitis.

What is being described in this monstrous thread as POIS could be different illnesses, some already known to medical science and treatable, (e.g. vasculitis). "Disgusting" pictures like the above could enable some reading this thread to be correctly diagnosed and treated.
Agreed.
 

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« Reply #18142 on: 27/04/2013 15:57:27 »
Does anyone here suffer from histamine intolerance? It has very similar symptoms to POIS.
 

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« Reply #18143 on: 27/04/2013 22:12:30 »
Hey everyone. It has been a while since I was on the forum, I now have better internet access so I can participate again. Currently I am still chaste as usual, and I have had infrequent NEs to contend with for quite a while. I have been working on improving my insomnia for the longest time as it has been the biggest dragon to fight (Insomnia caused by years and years of POIS thrashings).

Recently I began taking protein powder and have had beneficial mental results. My thinking is clearer and anxiety is reduced as a result. My sleeping has definitely improved, it is not "normal" yet but much improved such that I feel better the next day. The protein power is made from vegetable sources, I chose this opposed to whey protein as milk seemed to make my POIS worse years ago. The brand is "Vegan Proteins+", "a complete protein with a balance of all essential amino acids, easy to digest protein from pea, cranberry, brown rice, alfalfa, and hemp".

Last weekend I had the first NE in a long time, and I was curious to see what would happen. Initially I had the mental sensation that something had changed, like my brain was wired and my sleep was poor that night. The next day I had back pain in the shoulder blade area that reminded me of the POIS I initially experienced when I was very young. The good news is that it has been over a week and I haven't experienced any of the serious POIS symptoms: short term memory loss, swollen glands, burnout. So did the protein shield me from POIS? Is it building up my neurotransmitters? Perhaps...

I should also mention the other things I did following the NE. I ate anti-inflammatory foods which always diminished my POIS (garlic, sweet potatoes, blueberries, etc). But, even though these foods would reduce the initial symptoms I would always get a "Phase B" of my POIS: burnout, deadheadedness. I didn't get any of that this time.

I am not claiming any cure, but I thought I'd post my experience because the result of taking the protein is at least a definite improvement for me apart from POIS. I am convinced enough to suggest that protein power ought to be standard protocol for anyone that suffers cognitively: anxiety, depression, insomnia. If my future NEs continue to produce no horrible symptoms (or if they do) I will report.

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« Reply #18144 on: 28/04/2013 11:51:08 »
hi every body
 all pios symptoms refer to cardiac illnes  ,trouble with heart

please try this check  ( Echocardiography) it is an echo test shown your heart cleary

all symptoms refer to that you may have a trouble with your heat valves

it happen if you have got a rhumatic fever in your childhood whitch directly affect your heart valves

that makes your heart work with nogood

The heart? Can you explain why you make this suggestion?
 

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« Reply #18145 on: 28/04/2013 22:36:43 »
boha90, thanks for the reply. We all see the problems of others through the lens of our own experience. I have never had any heart related symptoms that I know of...quite sure POIS is something else, at least for me.
 

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« Reply #18146 on: 29/04/2013 00:25:15 »
hi every body
 all pios symptoms refer to cardiac illnes  ,trouble with heart

please try this check  ( Echocardiography) it is an echo test shown your heart cleary

all symptoms refer to that you may have a trouble with your heat valves

it happen if you have got a rhumatic fever in your childhood whitch directly affect your heart valves

that makes your heart work with nogood

The heart? Can you explain why you make this suggestion?

Yeah there's really no need for vague statements like that one.  If you have a good explanation for why it could be heart i'm all ears.

Not sure who it was that mentioned about protein powder but i find that quite interesting. Not long ago i realized how little protein i was taking and decided to try and have more fish(sardines, tuna), chicken, steak(which i rarely ate before), and so on. I can safely say that for me it makes a significant difference in terms of brain fog being much less.





 

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« Reply #18147 on: 29/04/2013 04:46:55 »
Protein powder definitely helps me too.  There are very few supplements i can take which have near-immediate positive effects, but protein is one of them.  Im glad others have noticed the same.
 

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« Reply #18148 on: 29/04/2013 23:45:59 »
John21 i Will try proteins. Thanks for the heads up.
 

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« Reply #18149 on: 30/04/2013 00:19:46 »
Yeah, I'm helped by protein powder too. I bought some a few months ago. The brand I got is called optimum nutrition. I picked that one because it has lots of good reviews and a high rating & also because there are many different flavors to choose from (the one I got is cookies and cream). Helps a lot and tastes good too.
 

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