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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18200 on: 22/05/2013 05:07:44 »
Nathan

 I am not talking about smoking anything/  I said   that  marijuana  inhibits acethylcholinesterase  which  increases  acethylcholine.  I also said that masturbation and excessive sex  will deplete zinc,    which  will lower your gaba  which will automatically  increase  acethylcholine  gaba balance and  make your thyroid low.  This is your case.  It is not like your replenished  zinc,  you just  induced  acethylcholine  with  your medicine, which  is not going to last,  especially  since you are having orgasms,  depleting zinc even more.  Vitamin  C  increases   iron which  decreases copper and  automatically increases zinc  relatively , but   in your case 3-4 orgasm a week is  insane. 

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« Reply #18201 on: 22/05/2013 05:12:50 »
zinc  and copper    control   gaba and  acethylcholinesterase/    There are no mutations, there is simply deficiencies.  You have to stay away from sex and  replenish   these metals,   including  iron manganese  copper and zinc , and all your enzymes will  work again.  Zinc increases gaba , lowers  acethylcholine for instance , if you have that imbalance/  POIS is caused by inflammation from  low testosterone levels, since  your horomones are not balanced. 

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« Reply #18202 on: 22/05/2013 07:22:42 »
Hi All,

I had a 12 days vacation in a tropical country ; As I was in holiday, I O everyday ; Strangely, I felt great(maybe 20% of my usual POIS symtoms)

I have had the same experience but I think the sunshine was what made me feel better.

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« Reply #18203 on: 22/05/2013 07:27:25 »
Since 1st of May I have abstrained from sex with my partner, taken niacin more often and kept a strict diet, making sure i always eat breakfast, lunch and dinner. Here´s what has has happened.

- improved sleep, quite better and more regular
- more nocturnal emissions, drastic increase
- less sex drive
- more calm and relaxed
- overall more healthy, no anxiety for quite some time.

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« Reply #18204 on: 22/05/2013 15:53:53 »
Hello guys. Is it worth trying the recipe kurtosis made? I've tried Niacin and it works for me but I still am damaged a lot from POIS. Can the "recipe" help this and what is your experience when trying it?

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« Reply #18205 on: 22/05/2013 21:49:00 »
Hello guys. Is it worth trying the recipe kurtosis made? I've tried Niacin and it works for me but I still am damaged a lot from POIS. Can the "recipe" help this and what is your experience when trying it?

A few others have seemed to have had some benefits from b-complex and the recipe. I took a highly bio-available b-complex for a while and had mild improvement in some physical pois symptoms. I think more of our members have had better improvements with fenugreek+garlic than b-complex.
« Last Edit: 22/05/2013 21:50:42 by Vincent M »

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« Reply #18206 on: 23/05/2013 01:07:07 »
Hello guys. Is it worth trying the recipe kurtosis made? I've tried Niacin and it works for me but I still am damaged a lot from POIS. Can the "recipe" help this and what is your experience when trying it?

A genetic test, e.g. 23andme.com, will help you to identify which part of your pathways (methylation etc) may be inefficient. You can then adjust Kurtosis' regimen to fit your need.

I found his regime very helpful for me, with some small tweaks.

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« Reply #18207 on: 23/05/2013 10:20:23 »
I'm going to be in Paris from June 5th - 11th.  If any POISers are out there and would like to get together for a meal and share experiences, please send me a PM

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« Reply #18208 on: 23/05/2013 10:35:03 »
Desperate, Some of the things youre saying resonate with my own experiences. For instance, i have weak adrenals. And, my blood-sugar is definitely tied to my pois. Even if im experiencing a fantastic day, and i go most the day without eating, my pois will come back, very strongly. I'll basically become a mute. And even if i eat a big meal, it's too late. My pois is there to stay. After times like these my pois will be bad another 2-4 days. Consequently, I never allow myself to get too hungry anymore.

 I'm not sure  I'm not sure whether morning Os or having an O on an empty stomach translate to worse pois, but ill try to pay attention to that in the future. Seems plausible.

Ive personally never had a negative sexual experience so i dont think ptsd plays a role w me.

My sodium is 138 within a 135 to 145 reference range, so low depending upon who u ask.

We speak the same language.Went 7 days abstaining now I had my tools in place.Took the most bioavailable forms of fat soluable vitamins,B complex with activated forms (methyls),took my liquid trace minerals,had enough protein and carbs for breakfast and got everything in place.Guess what?

POIS hit me really bad.My cognitive functions are non-existant.I work in free time for a friend's webpage as an administrator and forgot how to edit text messages (html).That's how bad I feel.
I'm unable to think,all my muscles are hurting but what hurts me the most is that I need to abstain for several days again to start feeling better and I can't tell anyone about this problem because they would ridicule me so I keep lying to people I've got blood sugar problems and they are already finding it strange that I go cheerful and happy for a while then suddenly feel like this with mood swings and personality change.
I live in a lie and have suicidal thoughts because of POIS.

Wish I could have spare 200-300$ so I could test this adrenal fatigue/Addison's theory by abstaining for certain period of time,doing 4-5x cortisol saliva testing on two days.Before and after masturbation.
I know this has to be one of the culprit or if not the root cause but key player that we get to feel this bad.
I would love to see how an orgasm affects a POIS sufferer's cortisol levels compared to non-problematic people...
« Last Edit: 23/05/2013 10:39:22 by desperate man »

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« Reply #18209 on: 23/05/2013 11:36:36 »
Vincent M and Romies: Thanks for your answers!

Vincent: Those that have had a positive effect of fernugreek and garlic, do they take this everyday? I mean not just before O.

Romies: Can you tell me more about the genetic test and how I can decide through that?
« Last Edit: 23/05/2013 11:39:32 by benvil »

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« Reply #18210 on: 23/05/2013 11:54:36 »
Vincent M   Hi, what recipe fenugreek ?


thank you

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« Reply #18211 on: 23/05/2013 17:05:16 »
benvil, for fenugreek+garlic most take it every day, but it is most helpful if taken at most an hour or 2 before "o". Myself and one other found that drinking some green tea with the fenugreek or soon after worked better than garlic.

Kima, fenugreek is just crushed seeds from the plant(also known as methi seeds) - it's not a recipe. I'll copy my exact procedure from my treatment summary.
Fenugreek(crushed seeds)+Garlic/Tea: For fenugreek I take three 620mg fenugreek capsules every morning with tea to further help me reduce the POIS inflammation from the orgasm I usually have every night. Taking the fenugreek with tea or garlic seems to be the only way fenugreek really works. Drinking green or black tea right after taking the herb also gives me increased energy throughout the day. I take the fenugreek in the morning, because if I take it at night I won't be able to fall asleep due to the energy enhancement it gives me. This has been reliably improving my symptoms for over a year. I've recently ordered 1 pound of crushed fenugreek seeds to save money and have been taking about 1/4 of a teaspoon with green tea every morning. Seems to work just as well as the capsules. It has a beneficial effect on both my cognitive and physical symptoms.
« Last Edit: 23/05/2013 18:15:06 by Vincent M »

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18212 on: 23/05/2013 20:54:13 »
Thanks Vincent. Do you know of any site that can ship fenugreek to Sweden? :o I don't seem to find any.

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« Reply #18213 on: 23/05/2013 21:02:45 »
I'm going to be in Paris from June 5th - 11th.  If any POISers are out there and would like to get together for a meal and share experiences, please send me a PM
if I were going to be there during that time (won't be sadly) I'd be one of the 1st poisers to volunteer to share my experiences with you, heck yeah. beautiful city btw

speaking of the garlic remedy, I can't stand eating the raw cloves (makes me feel very sick), but I don't really mind the minced kind. garlic really seems to help a little for my cognitive problem. also drink the fenugreek tea and enjoy it very much (b4 I tried it I was skeptical that I'd like the taste, but it's not bad at all and the warmth of the tea and the cup are nice too. it's like a mini campfire in my hands).

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« Reply #18214 on: 23/05/2013 22:13:34 »
Could anyone of you who are experiencing relief from taking niacin be so kind to post your homocysteine level lab results?

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« Reply #18215 on: 24/05/2013 05:31:11 »
Thanks Vincent. Do you know of any site that can ship fenugreek to Sweden? :o I don't seem to find any.

Nope I can't help you there, my friend. Sorry. Maybe someone else here might know?

Edit- I assume you've tried Amazon, right? I found this site that says they'll help ship items from the U.S. to other countries, but idk if it's legit or not: http://www.shipito.com/usa-address-mail-forwarding
« Last Edit: 24/05/2013 06:22:40 by Vincent M »

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« Reply #18216 on: 24/05/2013 05:42:23 »

speaking of the garlic remedy, I can't stand eating the raw cloves (makes me feel very sick), but I don't really mind the minced kind. garlic really seems to help a little for my cognitive problem. also drink the fenugreek tea and enjoy it very much (b4 I tried it I was skeptical that I'd like the taste, but it's not bad at all and the warmth of the tea and the cup are nice too. it's like a mini campfire in my hands).

Just to be clear the fenugreek tea decreases your pois symptoms, right? I made a sort of summary today of all of our fenugreek trials so I want to be extra sure. Also you're welcome for giving you the idea lol, although it was hurray who initially thought to try fenugreek so I'd have to give the credit to him.

The summary I made is at this link if anyone wants to take a look. So far it seems we have at least 11 to 14 members who had definite beneficial effects from fenugreek:

http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=1057.msg9548#msg9548
« Last Edit: 24/05/2013 05:58:09 by Vincent M »

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« Reply #18217 on: 24/05/2013 06:32:07 »
very good summary! and yes, the fenugreek tea decreases my symptoms. I think the visceral experience (so relaxing/warm) plays a big role, but it's probably also from the fenugreek itself (ps: I also have the fenugreek 610mg capsules and I take them once in a while too). I did get the idea from you a while back while I was a silent reader, thanks a lot! :D

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« Reply #18218 on: 24/05/2013 06:52:42 »
Thanks Prancer. Glad my constant advertisement of fenugreek paid off.

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« Reply #18219 on: 24/05/2013 10:34:01 »
zinc  and copper    control   gaba and  acethylcholinesterase/    There are no mutations, there is simply deficiencies.  You have to stay away from sex and  replenish   these metals,   including  iron manganese  copper and zinc , and all your enzymes will  work again.  Zinc increases gaba , lowers  acethylcholine for instance , if you have that imbalance/  POIS is caused by inflammation from  low testosterone levels, since  your horomones are not balanced.

Any ideas how to stop nocturnal emissions? I am having NE 4 times every week, even after quiting masturbation, no porn, no sex, it is impossible to stay POIS free for more than a couple of days.

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« Reply #18220 on: 24/05/2013 15:28:59 »
zinc  and copper    control   gaba and  acethylcholinesterase/    There are no mutations, there is simply deficiencies.  You have to stay away from sex and  replenish   these metals,   including  iron manganese  copper and zinc , and all your enzymes will  work again.  Zinc increases gaba , lowers  acethylcholine for instance , if you have that imbalance/  POIS is caused by inflammation from  low testosterone levels, since  your horomones are not balanced.

Any ideas how to stop nocturnal emissions? I am having NE 4 times every week, even after quiting masturbation, no porn, no sex, it is impossible to stay POIS free for more than a couple of days.

Doing sports usually helps...

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« Reply #18221 on: 24/05/2013 15:52:24 »
Fronicationdenied - try cutting out alcohol, at least near bedtime...that's the only thing I can think of.

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« Reply #18222 on: 25/05/2013 13:10:20 »
Desperate, per your suggestion, I've eaten a full balanced meal, either just before or just after my last 3 Os.  The result is that my pois didn't hit me as hard as usual.  Perhaps you've identified another small piece to the puzzle? 

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« Reply #18223 on: 25/05/2013 15:08:16 »
Any ideas how to stop nocturnal emissions? I am having NE 4 times every week, even after quiting masturbation, no porn, no sex, it is impossible to stay POIS free for more than a couple of days.

I would say that my thoughts right before I go to sleep does a lot. If I think about sex, pretty ladies etc then odds are quite higher i get a NE.

This week I have had two NE. I keep a record of my NE to do my own little statistics, every one here should do it too. I keep record of: NE,breakfast,lunch,dinner,relax,exercise,sleeping hours and its quality among other things.

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« Reply #18224 on: 25/05/2013 15:14:06 »
I have only tried Niacin (250 mg) 5 different times, should I take it on a regular basis?

Earlier I tried Nicotinamid, does not give the flush effect.
« Last Edit: 25/05/2013 15:17:38 by johanstefansson »

 

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