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« Reply #18575 on: 01/08/2013 18:31:54 »
lets do the poll...


Who says Guarav will have  POIS after his orgasm?

I am  pretty sure  he  wont have POIS... 

P.S   registered a month ago on this forum.

Smells like some kind of   BS.
 

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« Reply #18576 on: 01/08/2013 18:39:18 »
Well,  now it all makes  sense.  Gaurav person  is a front man of some kind of  setup. ID registered  a month ago, never posted pre Kumars  statements.
 Indian  conspiracy?
 

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« Reply #18577 on: 02/08/2013 03:32:13 »
gauruav did you do diet restricions/and use the same things nathan used before he started pancacharkarma.
it seems like you are only doing pancacharkarma.

 

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« Reply #18578 on: 02/08/2013 03:35:22 »
Well,  now it all makes  sense.  Gaurav person  is a front man of some kind of  setup. ID registered  a month ago, never posted pre Kumars  statements.
 Indian  conspiracy?
It is not a conspiracy, gaurav is not even in india, he is in a different country, i think malaysia. The doctor has nothing to gain monetary since we have to visit him in india inother to treat us. He is only trying to see if whatever works on nathan will work on someonelse.  At least is not claiming he has answer to pois because he helped one patient.
 

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« Reply #18579 on: 02/08/2013 12:39:34 »
This is funny how people would justify  anything  when they are desperate. 
CertainlyPOIS  you are obviously  buying tickets to India, arent you?

Lets  get the group  and all go there,  it would be fun for a vacation.)))

Kumar came out and said that  Nathan  got  POIS from  overmasturbation and  imbalance of acetylcholine.( which I agree, since I stated that  months earlier)
So the question is  how the hell did Nathan get toxic from it? ahhahah   
Did he get toxic from  all those dirty porn videos?   Did he all of a sudden  get mercury toxicity  from  2 chicks and 2 guys on the screen? 

This makes no sense whatsoever.


 

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« Reply #18580 on: 02/08/2013 12:50:35 »
Obstruction  of bile and  copper toxicity  and   fatty liver is the  possible  thing.  Since  both of  Guarav and Nathan  I bet had   fatty liver and  estrogen dominance.  That is why  any liver flush would help them.  Especially Nathan who took zinc for 25 days.   I had  some people take zinc for a week and got rid of POIS,  same as some people who posted on this  forum before.  So if you do  zinc and then do  cleanses  may be  it would work....But how would cleanse replenish  zinc ?   
 

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« Reply #18581 on: 02/08/2013 13:01:31 »
Also a huge possibility  would be  POT SMOKING.    I bet Nathan smokes a lot of POT. 

I found that many many POIS sufferers abused POT a lot.  If that guy smoked POT and masturbated,  then  it is a  double pressure on  Acetylcholine  system.
 

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« Reply #18582 on: 02/08/2013 14:10:00 »
Also a huge possibility  would be  POT SMOKING.    I bet Nathan smokes a lot of POT. 
Or maybe he doesn't take recreational drugs at all. Wow...
 

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« Reply #18583 on: 02/08/2013 14:27:27 »
Well,  now it all makes  sense.  Gaurav person  is a front man of some kind of  setup. ID registered  a month ago, never posted pre Kumars  statements.
 Indian  conspiracy?
Its not like kumardtr is selling his special blend ayurvedic cure or selling package deals to his clinic in India. People are free to make their mind up or try out of desperation whatever they want. Preferably its not the later. I personally think ayurvedic medicine is a little over rated, but its concept of body type influencing a person's health I can relate to. Panchakarma which is basically a detox I also think could be a valid approach to pois as it has been for a number people who suffer not too similar issues after taking proscar/finisteride. As Herman has pointed out there other detox methods that a person can do at home.
for me over masterbation was not the cause of pois. At the same time I developed sleeping problems, allergies, chemical sensitivities, signs of toxic condition (coated tongue, skin issues, dandruff).
 

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« Reply #18584 on: 02/08/2013 15:00:26 »
Kurtosis,


Or may be that he does,since I know that .WOW
 

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« Reply #18585 on: 02/08/2013 17:11:16 »
Kurtosis,


Or may be that he does,since I know that .WOW

I have no idea why Nathan123 would tell you whether he uses recreational drugs or not. However, if he did, I don't think you should be bringing it up on this forum as I doubt he told you anything with the intention of you broadcasting it to the group.
 

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« Reply #18586 on: 02/08/2013 17:25:27 »
Kurtosis,

The key word was "May be" in that  sentence.  And secondly   you are very reactive to this  pot smoking statement.
Anyone who would  use word "Recreational"  for drugs,  becomes a suspect  of a drug use in my book, hence it sounds a little like justification  of their  use.

 So now we know  where you  got your POIS from?

Using drugs , or taking  medical drugs  is the number one  thing that needs to be  talked about, since  I  found  from experience that so many cases of  POIS were  based  solely on that.


Cheers,
Herman



 

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« Reply #18587 on: 02/08/2013 17:42:26 »
Kurtosis,

The key word was "May be" in that  sentence.  And secondly   you are very reactive to this  pot smoking statement.
Anyone who would  use word "Recreational"  for drugs,  becomes a suspect  of a drug use in my book, hence it sounds a little like justification  of their  use.

 So now we know  where you  got your POIS from?

Using drugs , or taking  medical drugs  is the number one  thing that needs to be  talked about, since  I  found  from experience that so many cases of  POIS were  based  solely on that.


Cheers,
Herman


Herman,
I'm reactive to someone making an allegation of drug use on this forum. There used to be rules here. You either know something about Nathan123 or you don't. I don't give a crap for silly word games.

As for me using the word "recreational" for drug use. It implies nothing more than that I use the word recreational to describe the use of a drug such as cannabis where it's possible the user is socially-functional and responsible. I don't smoke pot. I don't drink alcohol and I don't smoke anything, even cigarettes. This is not a judgement on anyone else, just a response to your insinuation.


 

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« Reply #18588 on: 02/08/2013 18:03:24 »
Kurtosis,

You started the  "word" games  and I answered.  It was perfectly  clear what I meant  with Nathan,  especially for someone  smart like you.  If there were rules on this forum,  we would not have this  pranchakarma or Nathan  conversation  in the first place, since  it has nothing to do with  science or  theoretical  views on  POIS.
It is great that  you  cleared up  that you dont use drugs, I   was worried for a second.
But it is not about  using drugs or  drinking alcohol  at present,   most people cant use them any more,   and most  want to  go back to their previous life style, which  POIS took away from them.   
 When I  was sick, I could not  drink  alchohol  at all,  although  I  have  and wanted to  again. Huge difference

The  connection that I wanted to  emphasize was pot and masturbation.   Vast majority of complulsive masturbators  are   illegal  substance users, since after a while  you need that extra  perk.





 

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« Reply #18589 on: 02/08/2013 18:12:09 »
Sanity and  social responsiblity on canabis?   you must be kidding right?

Canabis screws you up in 2 years so hard , it is not even funny,  much much worse than alcohol. Testosterone  drops are tremendous.  And you would not even know what hit you.  Tell this stuff to wives that lost their  husbands to  canabis.   I saw  many many  cases where  people lost everything on  that drug, jobs family  health  and  especially sanity .
 

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« Reply #18590 on: 02/08/2013 18:22:00 »
Hey guys,

I've been browsing this board for a year or so now but haven't had much to contribute.  I've suffered from POIS for about 15 years now and have had the usual symptoms (fatigue, brain fog, depression, soreness, etc).  I was happy to find this board and others in my situation, but became frustrated at the lack of knowledge of this disease.  I personally never believed that POIS was an allergy to semen or that a random combination of supplements I'd never heard of would cure me.  Regardless, I tried many supplements (such as niacin and olive oil leaf) with no luck.  I also finally talked to my doctor about this and I'm pretty sure he thought I was crazy.  I started to accept the fact that I would never overcome this and would deal with this horrible illness for the rest of my life.

I would check this board every so often to see if anyone was having any luck and came across some posts by Gbolduev regarding copper and zinc.  I looked into copper toxicity and found similar symptoms to what I was experiencing.  I decided to give zinc supplements a chance and went out and bought a bottle.  This week I have had an orgasm four days in a row with zinc supplements afterwards.  My POIS symptoms have been greatly reduced.  I have been able to function normally for the most part with only some minor fatigue (could easily be unrelated to POIS).

I'm trying to not get ahead of myself, but I have more hope now than ever.  I also plan to speak with my doctor about this when I go back in a few weeks.

Anyway, I just wanted to share a little about my POIS experience and thank everyone for their insight and especially Gbolduev for his knowledge and help.
 

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« Reply #18591 on: 02/08/2013 18:33:39 »
Well,  now it all makes  sense.  Gaurav person  is a front man of some kind of  setup. ID registered  a month ago, never posted pre Kumars  statements.
 Indian  conspiracy?

I was observing this forum from the past 3 years when Demo was the overall admin of the forum and also contributed to the Fund raised for POIS research.  But never registered and never posted my views. However, last one month back, I found one new result, i.e. after undergoing Abdoment CT Scan found few abnormal results i.e. Fatty Liver. I posted in the forum whether any body has the result of this.  But no one has replied / expressed any point for this.  In the mean time, Nathan has contacted me and explained his theory and cure.  Further, his doctor had conversation with my doctor in malayasia over skype. 

On this, I started Panncakarma treatment in my local area.  Let's see how it works.  Don't worry, I will update the fare results.
 

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« Reply #18592 on: 02/08/2013 18:44:56 »
Thanks Guarav,


just as I said,  fatty liver.
 

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« Reply #18593 on: 02/08/2013 18:57:06 »
ZincW,

Glad you listened. It is  crazy that people  dont  dig with 2 hands into zinc copper balance .  Nathan was taking  zinc for 25 days,  and his blood test showed  estradiol  55 , which is high .  Zinc  increased progesterone and   suppressed  estradiol for him... Then he did pranchakarma which  cleaned out  bile  flow. Copper is being excreted thru  bile. 
I doubt without  zinc he would have any  results from  pranchakarma alone...  I cant beileve people dont get it..)))
 

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« Reply #18594 on: 03/08/2013 10:18:27 »
Hello to all of you,
 
I'm tracking the forum for a few years. I'm pois sufferer as well, my muscles are weak, mind is dimmed so much, I hear schreeches in my eares, my nose is clogged, my skin is itchy etc. every time I have an O.  It lasts at least 3 days.
I'm happy for everyone who is cured and I have to say that most of what Gbolduev says sound very reasonable and promising. I did enemas , took 500 Ca , 700Mg and 30 mg Zn and kelp for two weeks and did not see any improvement.
So I'm now convinced to try liver flush with supplements. I would really undergo the same procedures as Nathan, despite the fact that Gbolduev's contrarguments are comprehensible. Because the most crucial is that he is cured. But I don't have acces to patchkarma or ayurvedic doctor so I will try this by myself. But I have some questions, especially for you Gbolduev: what diet should I go by ( the same as Nathan? ) How long should I do liver flushes and should I take coffee enemas simultaneously? And what dose of which supplements should I take ( I don't really understand how you count the all ratios and dosages of supplements)?
 

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« Reply #18595 on: 03/08/2013 11:45:59 »
Hi All,

Even though I dont really care finding what is the cause of this, maybe to think about it can help to find a solution ; For the record, I kinda abuse with pot for years and I have to say POIS state is quite similar to post pots usage state ; I also abuse with masturbation ; Both are apparently related to cholinergic system ; My inch is by making Ach going up and down for years we kinda used the system and its ability to autoregulate itself. It the same thing with SSRI's(wich I also take for two years) ; there is today very high scientific probability that they screw up brain homeostasy...psychiatrist call it "tardive dysphoria"..Funny bastard...SSRI's did'nt cause the problem but they definitly make it worse.
I think metal imbalance is very plausible but the question is why we got that in the first place...and why like anyone else, the body did'nt compensate itself(I've ton of friends that did abuse masturbation and pots and they are perfectly fine)....How many of you guy have tested ceruloplasmin ?...Every person who I talked with about that have low CP meaning high free(toxic) copper in the blood...I also did felf great on Zinc for 2 weeks...And then recrash...It's a pity that there is no better information source about copper/zinc imbalance than 2 or 3 guys that are not really considered by medecine maintstream.

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« Reply #18596 on: 03/08/2013 12:05:15 »
I'm pois sufferer as well, my muscles are weak, mind is dimmed so much, I hear schreeches in my eares, my nose is clogged, my skin is itchy etc

I hear schreeches in my eares, =>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinnitus

Vasculitis affecting cranial nerves can produce tinnitus https://www.google.com/search?q=vasculitis++tinnitus ,
Vasculitis affecting nose can cause excessive mucus (which can be blood-streaked) ,  vasculitis affecting brain (unsurprisingly) can case cognitive dysfunction. Cutaneous vasculitis can be itchy (pruritic).

I have to say that most of what Gbolduev says sound very reasonable and promising.

Your syndrome has definitely affected your brain Maciej :)


NB: for vasculitis you should also read pseudovasculitis, some of the latter are hormone-mediated.
Hormones which increase after orgasm could be the trigger (Prolactin ?).
« Last Edit: 03/08/2013 12:13:28 by RD »
 

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« Reply #18597 on: 03/08/2013 13:29:45 »
Dear RD,

The joke about my brain? Leave it without a comment. MOre important is the fact that you (and also some other people here) approach to pois without noticing one very importnant fact. All     symptoms       are      triggered       by     ejaculation and probably most of us here seem to be in good shape in the time between the ones. So it's a bit naive to claim that some vasculitis is troubling me and, in the process, every other person here. Try to measure inflammatory indicator like i.e. CRP, leukocytes. Immunoglobulines which are often linked with vasculitis. You can have alterations in kidneys (i.e. haematuria), in liver (aminotrasferases are high) lungs and so one, Raynaud syndrome, cyanosis, necrosis. They occur because vessels are blocked by immunoglobuline complex or granulomas and they don't just disappear after a few days of abstaining sex. You can list tons of them. They're different than pois, there are many kinds of vasculitis and some of them are much more severe than pois and the symtomps don't aggravate after sex. So please don't support your medical, biochemistrical knowledge with wikipedia and try not to match at all costs the symptoms of other diseases just because they merely fit with pois'.
 

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« Reply #18598 on: 03/08/2013 14:17:44 »
RD,

I dont recall you suffering from POIS at all.   You have never tried hair analysis, you have never been tested. You did not conduct any studies.. You just sit here and post some  articles from  sites.. I see the dynamics  in real life  on blood test hair tests not on some papers written by idiots.
I cured my POIS.  You never had  it.  So how can you even  recommend anything to these people? 
Or  argue with anything.  It is  simply  not ethical.

It is wierd  when  someone  who never had a desease argues with someone  who cured it, and  notice not only  for myself anymore.
One day  when the light would be  shed on this POIS  by  Medical community  , you will be digging yourself inside of your soul, everytime you remember about me and about hairtests)))

Good luck,
Herman
 

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« Reply #18599 on: 03/08/2013 14:35:16 »
RD,

2 posts earlier  the guy came out and said he is almost POIS free after taking zinc  for a week... Previosly  another person  got rid of  POIS  with treatment from Pyrouria..    Do you understand that  most people are pyroluric.  MOST.
It is a matter of a degree and stress.

If this  is not copper and zinc balance problem , then I am  russian ballet dancer.)))
 

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