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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18800 on: 28/08/2013 09:30:48 »
I would like to also put in my 5 cents worth and say could all the bickering talk please stop. We need to be open to all open to potential new findings that could help us get over this hell. I am off to the doctor tonight as I have just realized that I have been ignoring a varicose vein on my foot for far too long. I am not sure if that has been instrumental in any circulation issues that could have an impact on me in the form of POIS and my EMS but it needs to be looked at anyway. I have recently increased my zinc intake which has definitely had a positive on me. There has been a lot of progress since even a year ago.
 

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« Reply #18801 on: 28/08/2013 09:43:32 »
hum...Can't wait for the Herman's answer...not sure it will go in a scientific direction...but surely entertaining ; )

It would definitely be entertaining. But it's got to stop.  This is ruining progress in the forum and too much of this will eventually lead to reprecussions, like an instatement of strict rules or worse yet the closing of this forum (as CertainlyPOIS has warned about).

And i think most important of all is that we're all playing on the same team and should be working together.

A few points i'd like to make: Herman, slavrs didnt steal your idea. And if things he says appear similar to yours, that's a really good thing because it shows simarities between your theories. If what he's describing is dystonia then i think he'd be interested to learn that. He clearly has no profit motive here and isnt trying to feed us BS to make money (like "Dr" Lin does for a living). Lastly,  Herman, many of us love to hear your take on things. So keep doing it. But if people are phony it'll play out over time. You gotta give ppl a chance.

Slavrs:  This website had been up and running for +/- 6 yrs now.  We are the largest body of POIS members in the world and between us we track a good amount of every sexual fatigue related article or study or website that's ever come out.  We know all the top specialists as well.  If you come in and deliver a vague statement that you have organised a study of 27 individuals and have solved the riddle we've been working on for most of our lives, we have good reason to be skeptical.  It seems like every few weeks we get another nutjob that claims he can help. Please see "Dr" Lin's post above if u want a good example. This guy is the worst of the worst and is trying to sell us large doses of cadmium if u can believe it.

Yeah I totally agree...my endless POIS state put me the position to seek for any kind of stupid distraction...

As long as it's non profit and non dangerous statement, we should take into consideration any contributor of this forum...

Two remarks about Slavrs theory :

My GP told me a year ago that I had a blood vessel constriction problem due to orgasm...It's decribed and called "post migraine cephalgia"...he put me on ketoprofen and propanadol...while it helps symtomaticly, it did'nt solve the root problem...additionaly I had an angiography wich shows no dilated brain vessels and I've had my blood pressure wich is constantly normal

Slavrs, if you did a scientific research, it would very intersting to share the methodology and the results with us...We have an extensive experience and have done 5373838 blood test all together...maybe be we can validate/invalidate/modify your theory.  I think that would be a better contribution than indicate treatment/cure therapy that we have all know for years.

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18802 on: 28/08/2013 09:51:37 »
 SLAVRS

Beilive me, anyone  who has  an INVESTOR has   the monetary motive  , especially someone  who   totally imposters  the well know Syndrome. 


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Yet, the fact is that the POIS is no longer a MYSTERY ILLNESS as to the aspects of the symptomatic causes.

My friend it was not a mistery to us for a long long time,  we are looking at  a system how everyone  can fix it at once,and you send us to  doctors.  Who cares how symptom is triggered, we all knew it was histamine   acetylcholne and vasodilation problem,  Every single body knew it on this FORUM and  you act like you told us something new, which  you did not at all.    What causes it in  each individual  is the problem, and the problem that you have no answer for.  I dont  understand why you dont get it. It is like talking to a wall.



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In the end Gbolduev, if you were such a specialist, why has it never occurred to you that estrogen, progesterone and all other things you've played with affect the most important part of a human body - the vascular system?
SLAV ,  are you a joker or what, the only reason why I am talking about  VVD    and vascular desease  and the reason I knew about it, since  every single body was diagnosed with it on the RUSSIAN FORUM----- do you get this   EVERYBODY and Victor  will prove it  when he posts. They all went to doctors with this syndrome and  tried to cure it same as you suggest.   I mentioned it  6 months ago,  as I specifically  stated that most people with POIS have dystonia,  and that   IT IS NOT A CAUSE OF POIS.   

This is one of  the posts where I mentioned  Vascular  Dystonia   6 months ago.

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VIncent M,  overactive  imflammation response and  incorrect work of your glands create problems  in your body ,   high  histamine, inflammed blood vessels, prostate , semen pathways. Also your  calcium  metabolism is impaired,  which  effects   the contractions of  blood vessels.   That is why you feel like blood does not go  into your brain.  Also  this could block  adrogenic hormones from your testicles. And thus you will have lower  testosterone levels.    You can fix this  within 3 months.   You have to  go on the regimen  and at the same time do some exercises  to get the  nutrients to your  pelvic  area,   there is  a blockage there.   

And on the Russian  site, I have discussed  Vascular Dystonia  very often and   can be  proven by Victor.


You are so far behind us  , it is not even funny.  I am not playing with  hormones, I balance  the body chemistry  to precisely   perfect  condition ,  where all hormone and  most  of the systems  start working  the same.  And cardio vascular  system also.  Where do you get  cardiovascular  problem,  rookie? you get it from  mineral and chemical  balance of the body. 

As far as my knowledge is concerned,  I posted the CAUSE of POIS,   6 months  ago before your site was even born.,  So I guess I am  6 months "smarter "than you.   And it is  so easy to just  go and read all my information and then add your bs crap. 


You said you would not post here. But obviously  it  contradicts your agenda.  Your information on your site is the most useless information  ever as everyone could see.  Stop advertising your crap here.   VVD is not slavrs , stop it already. 
I have real results with people and your level of knowledge  is  kindergarden based  on the supplements and procedures you recommend on  your site.How can you  even argue about this .

Stop lying about  me  balancing thyroid already. I dont use  managanese  zinc and copper alone.  I use almost every minerals and  vitamin   in specific ratios and the results speak for themselves.

You  on the contrary  are an imposter of an existing condition  VVD and totally  clueless of the balance in the body.
One more time for you ,  VVD is not the cause of POIS  and CFS, if you dont get it   it is your problem.
I cant beilive you had a nerv to post here, imposter. 
You have no idea what I Know and stop pretending  that you do,  constantly  trying simpify things and claim thart I do this and I do that.  People here know what I do and it is not  suggeting some stupid exercises and  vitamin C  like you do.

Bottom line:

1)  You  are an imposter of  existing condtion  Vegetative  Vascular  Dystonia, which  you can be sued  for and you will be
2) You have no awareness of the  balance in the body.( as I wrote to you  Sherlock,  I balance   NA/K(electricity ratio)  CA/MG(sugar, vasodilation ratio)  NA/MG( adrenals)  CA/K (thyroid ratio) CA/P  ( acidity ratio)
all at once. Where do you see here thyroid balancing , imposter?  AGAIN your lies are insane.
3)  Vegetative  Vascular dystonia is caused by NA/K and CA/MG  imbalance , and it is not the cause of CFS or POIS. Get real
4) You  claimed that you wont post here, yet   you do.  Another huge lie ,since  you do have an AGENDA
5)  You argue with the system  which was developed by  dr ECK who spent 40 years of researching and testing?
It balances all systems in the body at  once.  And  your research is  mismal  crap,  comparing to what I did and especially  what work dr Eck  implemented.
6) You troll with  people tests on  this site,  which you should be banned for completely. Of course you would deny it. but it is a fact.  You were  talking about this zinc and all of a sudden  Dr LIN shows up  claiming zinc  toxicity. YOU SHOULD BE BANNED, since you played with  peoples minds here, imposter.
7) You advertise your portal here,  which  you  shoudl be BANNED for.
8)  Your site  does not provide  any  usefull information and people were disappointed totally , since  you  came on as a cocky know it all . In the end,  all treatments were copied from POIS center, and you  give absolutely  no direction for people.  Absolutely none.
9)  You  spend my time and peoples time here by  engaging in these discussions, which make no sense,  since you just impostered  VVD and you know nothing and have  no real suggestions  except  go find yourself a doctor.LMAO
10)  You contantly   lie about  what I do and try to  give me characteristics and  abilities that you are not aware of , and this  is defammation , which you can be  sued for. Your site is public , and I know what you know since you posted it there,   you on the other hand have no idea of what I do and how I look at the  problem, since you did nto have  even time to read this forum.  You never posted here, nor your 27 imposter friends, and yet you claim they are feeling better,   YOU ARE ONE BIG FAT LIER.  And it is  very obvious  to people here.
11) why did you create a website , if you  cant direct people,  except  telling them to go find a   doctor.
12) The website will be created shortly   and I will link it to your website and I will  put truth on everything  your agenda is about,    What is VVD  and how you impostered it and how you   jut took  4 main  desteases and  tried to  put them all around   dystonia  which  you called your NAME.   You are an opportunistic shmuch my friend.
13)  You  dont have to BS people here anymore, they see your site,  why do you explain things,  like this site was created by this and that person,  WE dont care about that,   People that looked at  it   claimed it wothless
14) You copied all the information that I provided  on the forum  onto your site , especially in the POIS section , I  came up with it  half a year ago,  EXACTLY WHEN YOU STARTED YOUR RESEARCH.   You started and I provided, you see the difference.  How can you  even  open your mouth here. I dont get.
I hate liars and you sir   is the  biggest one of them . You  have no idea of my knowledge and yet you constantly  claim  that I do this and that,  READ the forum  at least 100 pages back and you will know what I do,  but I guess you are too busy  promoting your bogus  fake  syndrom. 
The article in the respected magazine will  be ordered soon  clarifying your imposterous attempt , I will pay for it, since I think imposters  are the  lowerst people on this planet and  should be punished.


And dont  you dare  troll with  peoples  tests anymore. 

Vasodilation is not the cause of POIS,  Fenugreek helps but does not  take off POIS symptoms. Nothing that you mentioned takes off  POIS symptoms, otherwise people would use it here.
Of course vasodialation  is important and  progesterone  estrogen  balance also,  if you read this forum you would know that  I  explained it in detail.   vascular system imbalnce  is the imbalance same as  impotentce,   premature ejaculation,  POIS, CFS   fibromalgia,  it is the symptom of the  imbalance, and it goes away  as any other imbalance... And nothing is based on  VVD, VVD is a separate symptom, I cant beilive you dont understand it.
I had a desease and I know what is true and what not,  same as people on this forum , vasodilation  is   the part of the problem and not the main  issue of  POIS or CFS..  We discussed  vasodilation  years ago here  and   tried everything for it. LMAO   and this guy comes out  in 5 years and puts us 5 year back again.

And that is not his theory ,  gazzillion people discussed it already before here and did extensive testing  on it.   Vasodialation  problem is the  side effect of the main  array of imbalances.  Which basically SLAVS  admits. So why would we concentrate on some side effect  and not on the main reason...I  created a system  where everyone can find their imbalance , their personal imbalance  which led to   Vascular dysonia,  POIS ,  CFS.   SLAVS basically says the same thing,  only  has no  solutions for it , except going to some doctors and looking for it. 
I dont get how is this  anything different from what I am saying.  The only difference that  this guy   put his name on something that already existed  like VVD and  at the same time  does not undestand that VVD is the same imbalance as POIS  and CFS and  all others  and not the cause of the latter.  Anyone with any knowledge of the biochemistry   admits it , and he admits it , since he  sends you to doctors to correct the imbalance.   Well, Slavr  , if you are  trying  to manipulate body chemistry  to correct the imbalance, then you are doing what I am doing exactly/  since NA/K ratio is  estrogen progesterone  ratio as you would know  if you read the forum. 



NA-- stimulated by aldosterone  and estrogen
K stimulated by  progesterone  and cortisol
CA and MG  are buffer systems  for  NA and K in the cell

NA/K ratio is the  ratio of  estrogen  to progestero,and aldosterone to  cortisol.
the  imbalance of this ratio leads to either infection, if the ratio is low and inflammation if the ratio is high.
CA/K ratio is the thyroid ratio
CA/P is the acidity  ratio.

So with  the imbalance of any of those  ratios come symptoms,   and every imbalance  constitute symptom.

Like as an example  Low NA/K ratio,  the person will have depression,  infections,  resentment ,  hostility , allergies,   low estrogen,  low managese low bound copper,  low  adrenal function.

Impaired  Ca/Mg  ratio  which is the main problem for vasodilation  symptom and sugar problems.
You  see SLAVRs,   mineral ratios stand much before your  stupid symptomatic syndrome,  minerals make the cell, and they are  the begining of the process...You are already explaning the  symptomatic part of it,  and you  should study  body chemistry and undestand how  interactions work before you engage in any  crazy discussions.

In the end you suggest the same minerals and vitamins,  since  all the herbs  are made out of them...And you  instead of  understanding how  fenugreek works , just post us information from the internet,   FENUGREEK this and that, and  it makes estrogen  receptors this and that.HOW does it make it?  HOW   tell us.  you clueless imposter/

Fenugreek is made out of vitamins and minreals,  sherlock,  which  component of fenugreek  helps with  with POIS for some people ?     DUH?     
the answer is choline,  you imposterous rookie.

I rest my case, since you  have a lot of nerv to argue with me,  having absolutely inferiour knowledge on the subject.







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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18803 on: 28/08/2013 10:34:50 »
Haha damn.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18804 on: 28/08/2013 12:06:05 »
NOW the facts about  the false theory;

1) many people with POIS have low  blood pressure ( if not most, since  most have adrenal insufficiency from  the unavailability of copper)
2) NIACIN or fenugreek or  any other  herb mentioned did not help  even 30% of  POISERS. Many people feel worse on  fenugreek and  niacin  not better. I have no idea where did you get the info that  we got better on those. It is  ridiculous.  The connection  of Niacin and  fenugreek   is more to acetylcholine syntethis than to  anything else.  And POIS can be  present  in both conditions  high or low acetylcholine. 
3) most  POIS people have tachicardia at some  point of their desease  and   this is  Vascular Dystonia / You claimed that  there is no blood pressure  problems in  Slavrs  Fake  syndrome.
4)Exercise  helps people, since it  stimulates adrenals and makes copper and manganese more bioavailable, and has nothing to do with the thyroid as you claim.
5) Copper  and Zinc  control  NO production  , same as manganese, and  you can  see it many studies, as oppose to your  made up crap.

6) And the  most important part 

EVERY SINGLE BODY was diagnosed with VVD syndrom( which is vegetative vascular dystonia) on the Russian forum and  it was done on special  equipment  for some,  like cardio equipment and  blood vessels equipment.  Not all dystonia people have POIS at all,  although in POIS calcium metabolism  mostly impaired also.   I specifically   ordered  everyone to do ionized  calcium test   to  make assessment of their  vascular system.  POIS has nothing to do with  dystonia  and  can exist completely  separately from it. Although in majority cases they coexist.
And someone who claims  something that already exists is an IMPOSTER.   And if you dont understand this , then  you  should not even be talked to  , since you are stupid.

In russia  they have  a huge VVD (Vegetative  Vascular  Dystonia) community  and they have  their own  huge forum, which Victor can  also  confirm and  same as for  any systemic   problem , there is NO CURE  with regular  stupid doctors.


Bottom line is that   mineral balance is much more important than any  symptomatic  releases  and  anything that happens in our body depends on the mineral balance and chemical  reaction , especially things like vasodialation and acetylcholine balanace. So  why would anyone  put  some stupid  syndrom  prior to  the mineral  balance. It is  totally false.
Stress reaction is also controlled by mineral balance , and that is why  some people  are stress tolerant and some not being under exact same amount of stress.

SLAVR,  dont be pathetic and take down your website, or redo it  completely since  it is  just simply  all false.
Anybody with some knowledge in  biochemistry  would know that and you  are being laughed at as we speak. 

YOU  took some  existing  syndrome  which is  Vegetative Vascular Dystonia  which is  known all over the world and  every clinic in Russia has the   prop  cure for it  ,   then you  rename it  with your stupid NAME that makes no sense and sounds like (masturbation)  then  you  claimed it  the cause for everything else(CFS  POIS etc ), but   you failed to  provide  the  cause of your  original claim and you say it is  not known and it is  hard to find and everyone has their own cause  and  we all need to go  to doctors.  Then  if we go to the POIS part of your site,  we can see exactly the explanations of POIS that I posted here 6 months ago,  Such as acetylchoine  imbalance, estrogen dominance,  histamine realease.  The only problem : where are the explanations of the  processes,  do you even  know what estrogen dominance is?   You  write that estrogen  goes higher than it  should  during stress.  Are you  even aware  of how false this is.  You  dont understand  biochemistry.  Nothing goes  over any  higher limits,  we have no those limits,  it is the limits  on the gap  ratio betweeb other minerals  what matters . After that  statement you lost  any credibility  whatsoever and  this  is amazing that you still post here.

Amazing  that  some rookie with  total lack of knowledge in  biochemistry and  body  systems will  create a site and claim  every possibe desease to  a syndrome that he copied . What is  it for? I dont get.  Scientifically  you are  totally worthless  since  this is not even close to the level at which   those topics should be discussed at. Practically   you are also totally worthless, since you dont  recommend anything real.   What is the reason of the site then.
If you  claim I am  full of crap, it is fine with me, it s your uneducated  claim , but I explain all my points and  proved it with studies, and I offer a solution that  people can  take tommorow, since they are allready tired and broke from going  from doctor to doctor as you suggest. So I would say  even  if you dont beilive  in me scientifically( which you have no right  to, since your  level is far  below mine as far as biochemistry goes.), I dont have Nobel prize and I dont claim to  know everthing  and I am not even close to some guys who are real gurus in this, sadly for us those guys are  hired by big PHARMA  immediately  and I know many of them.. I have definete practical  use, which  you lack  also.  SO your site is not scientific nor practical,  and the reason of its creation and especially claiming  Vascular dystonia as your  discovery  is  totally  FRAUD and has  agenda underneath it, which is why you  accidently  told us about   your INVESTOR.

 

SO the conclusion from all of this  :

 YOUR CLAIM  IS   PATHETIC and outlandish  BS .
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18805 on: 28/08/2013 15:17:08 »
Good morning everyone,

My apologies for a long post, yet, the Gbolduev madness has to stop. Below is the chronological order of his posts that many will find helpful.

He opposes virtually anyone whom he does not copy. He does not oppose Lawrence Wilson where all most of his "nutritional expert" approaches are coming from (drlwilson.com). I suppose his nutricional training coming from Lawrence Wilson website, which is actually a lifetime of work!

Gbolduev is not a trained nutritional specialist and he has no full time job. His main hobby is zinc and copper ratio that he got obsessed with through the experience of zinc poisoning.  He is not an advocate to any doctors. He suffers from psychological issues caused by his wife's death. There are some other personal details about his life that should not be posted on the forums.

Gbolduev,

Addressing your statements in a polite manner:

1. vascular dystonia is similar, yet, it does not appear to be the case with POIS, since its cardiovascular in nature. Blood pressure is not an indicator of the condition therefore. Educate yourself about vascular dystonia a little bit first, then make your arguments.

2. Acetylcholine and hormones are factors influencing factors and not the causes.

3. Stop drooling on copper and manganese now that you are hiding the fact you were feeding everyone with zinc/copper ratios so aggressively just recently.

4. Thyroid is not claimed by us to be a factor in exercise.

5. Copper  and Zinc are not factors in NO biosynthesis and never claimed to be

Gbolduev, you show no knowledge in biochemistry, other than the information you copy from documents on the internet and most commonly known dietary changes people post about in a lot of articles.

You had absolutely no idea about the things you post now, even going a few months back.

Stop claiming being a "trained nutritional specialist". Who trained you that you poisoned yourself with zinc in the first place???

Gbolduev, stop calling people stupid, ignorant, and proclaim yourself some sort of nutritional specialist. Simply post the links to the info you find useful and don't rewrite it in your own words as if all of what you say is your own experience coming from a practice.

Look at the history of your posts in general, how obnoxious you were to many until someone brings up more logic explanation, then you become "so helpful and nice" before threatening leaving the boards.

Now here's the important part of Gbolduev history in becoming a "healer of POIS".

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Gbolduev: "I  tend to agree with  some people here and I  am 100% sure that  high histamine levels are the  cause of the  problem"

100% ???? Are you sure Gbolduev?

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Gbolduev: It is almost  impossible to be checked for heavy  metals. I am not guessing here, this is 100%.

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Gbolduev: balance prone to infection (low histamine) balance prone to iflammation ( high histamine)

Really? That simple?

4. =============
Gbolduev: "I  am not trying to research anymore,  I  fixed 3 out of 4  possible  cases of POIS"

What are the fixes and why there is no single case that would result in recovery?

4. =============
Gbolduev: "overactive  imflammation response and  incorrect work of your glands create problems  in your body ,   high  histamine, inflammed blood vessels, prostate , semen pathways."

This comes from someone who knows biochemistry?

5. =============
Gbolduev: "Fenugreek  inhibits prostaglandin D2 , also increases copper since it has estrogenic properties.  It slows you down. That is why you feel better."

How did you come up with this?

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Gbolduev: "To  downregulate  the  inflammation response  your  brain need to  reset."

That's a very scientific explanation. Watch for medical community to steal your secrets.

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Gbolduev: "Trust me guys I tried every thing.  I did B3 when this forum did not even exist. I  realized  that  quercetin worked by increasing copper that is why  D2 and E2 got  controlled."

This gets interesting. So you had POIS more than 6 years ago? And you fixed your inflammation with quercetin?

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Gbolduev: "One thing I dont like about  Dr. Richards and his method  is that  he feeds everybody  the same thing, lets say  multi A,  or aminos, or fish oil"

And you feed everybody with manganese, copper, zinc and some vitamins? No?

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Gbolduev: "I  am  not planning to be hanging out  on this forum and prove anything to anyone."

What are you doing now?

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Gbolduev: "Basically  the problem  of POIS is as electrical as chemical. I agree than  there are many reasons why  the  cortisol  gets     effected , but in 90% cases , it is the problem  with copper."

Really? That easy?

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Gbolduev: "so basiciallly    in    the normal POIS,   thyroid  makes your  adrenal  pump harder.  And   cortisol is usually high ,  since cortisol  is pumped to  create RT3 hormone to stop   the thryoid affect... This  the  ratio of dopamine/serotonin is   not right and also  conversion  of noradrenaline  into  adrenaline."

Why does this sound like Dr. Lin?

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Gbolduev: "What happened to me  that I was stressed  and  for some stupid reason I started to take zinc also, and took it for a while.   that is when my Pois started."

This is the time that was over 6 years ago when all of the sudden you became a professor in biochemistry.
Interestingly enough, you knew everything and started curing people only from December 2012, yet, if you look at your post, everything was 100% problem with histamine, because "Professor Waldinger" already said it was most likely the semen allergy.

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When people told you to stop harassing them on this forum, in august of 2013, you said
Gbolduev: "this will be my  last post on this forum"

It was?

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Gbolduev: "Pyroluria is  copper / zinc imbalance So is POIS."

So it is "copper / zinc imbalance". We have never found this to be a case alone in all the tests that we have, done, and this was excluded via 24 hour urine tests as well.

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Gbolduev: "Here is  a very  simplified  way to get rid of  this  once and for all/
The reason for POIS  is the weakness of your immune system or  super  reaction of it.
Why  does this  happen?      either you are born with it and got the imbalance from your mother/  Or  you have gut problems, which causes  extra  cortisol pump(   you probaby took antibiotics or had an infection of some sort) Your gut is very weak  and  adrenal gland  is trying hard to support your immune system , Let it rest   / TO do this  do  probiotic  retention enemas or  do   fecal transplant. For people who are deficient in  copper , POIS will be gone  in 1 week/   It will lower your cortisol levels,  your thyroid will start working,   your dopamine serotonin ratio wil be fixed"

Now it's an autoimmune disease caused by a gut issue?
Sounds like the 100% solution now, doesn't it? I thought you already knew it was 100% histamine problem.


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Gbolduev: "Honestly , there is not such thing as POIS. It is  one of the  many metabolic imbalances."

Oh, now it's "metabolic imbalances". I thought it was histamine problem followed by a gut problem that caused an autoimmune disease, no?


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Gbolduev: "if you  dont want to  give me tests,  go   find a practioner who will balance your body chemestry , they are 1000s of them"

I thought they are all crooks who don't know anything trying to make money of everybody?


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Gbolduev: "I tried many  Ayurvedic Medicine/Ashwagandas,  tumerics gingers , shilajit gugullu and others/  Anything for the prostate to  diminish DHT burning to stop   premature ejaculation and  also to  reboot hormones,  since the impulse   should be big to  reboot your system.  They all worked for POIS.     But the core problem did not go away"

Shooting in the dark again?


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Gbolduev: "Who cares about  zinc and copper in serum.  Those tests are crap.  Estrogen dominance is copper toxicity  inside of the cell, brain and liver."

Ouch! This hurts.

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Gbolduev: "I have a suggestion.  Anyone  who is interested in getting  balanced and  getting rid of  all your deceases   and POIS,  can   contact     Catherine  Richards,    her e-mail is  Kater_am@yahoo.com.  She is  ARL practitioner ."

So NOW you are selling hair tests? She is uses a lab where you can purchase hair tests without her sale mark up. What's your profit margin here Gbolduev?


19. =============
Gbolduev: "When I had POIS and I was   changing my  body chemistry I  would get different POISes all the time.   In one  chemistry I would get  stuffy noses,  itchy eyes,   in another chemistry  I would get   pressure in my head. Balance  adrenals and thyroid against  each other, which will balance  sodium pottasium in your cell.  That is the answer .Look at   horse owners,  how do they  balance their horses?    Take a guess,     iron  zinc copper manganese  balance."

Does this even come from Gbolduev????

20. =============
Gbolduev: "POIS happens from loss of energy . It could be  in infection state or  inflmmation state.  In both states you  lose  energy and  your testosterone  production goes down.   
Basically if you are low on  zinc  or copper , you will  lose  energy   since  zinc and copper equals  electricity ."

It gets better with zinc and copper now... doesn't it?


21. =============
Gbolduev: "Niacin same as nicotin  inhibits   the destruction of  acetylcholine.  That is why  when I quite smoking I got my POIS. ."

Good knowledge of biochemistry!

22. =============
Gbolduev: "As you know I  have informed you that  POIS depends on  the work of  your glands.   All other cures  are just  cover ups and wont  solve anything.  Adrenals and thyroid  are the  issue here.   Adrenals and thyroid  regulate  your  neurotrasmitters .  The POIS ratios are  sodium potassium  ,  electric ratio ,   dopamine serotonin, and  mainly I think   acetylcholine/  gaba  ratio."

Is it the issue now?


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Gbolduev: "SO basically  you need a certain ratio with iron zinc copper and  manganese to   get rid of POIS. It is insane that I laid  down  a cure in front you  for months and  everyone here is  still sick.   I will  be gone from this forum also,  since I dont  have time to try to  move something that is not moving. One day  you will get what I was saying. "

Here is the POIS cure and the cause of it! Hasn't anyone try this?


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Gbolduev: "Free copper irritates adrenals,  since it increases  cortiosl secretion obviously  this way  there is a steal taking place  and your aldosterone falls and cortisol goes up.  In this setup  your ceruloplasmin will go down ,  and histamine will go up.. This is  your mechanism for POIS."

And finally here is the mechanism of POIS.

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Gbolduev: "POIS is basically  cancer.  And the cure for  POIS is the same as for cancer. "

Oh that hurts to listen to!!!

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Gbolduev: August 29, 2013: "I have  10s of people who  I cured from  POIS."

I thought you had thousands of patients?

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Gbolduev: "In the body niacin picks up an ammonia molecule and becomes niacinamide that is eliminated mostly in the urine. If we take niacinamide the reaction runs backward and we become tired with excessive ammonia. I hope this is not what SLAVRS going to post on his portal...))))   KNOWN for years."

Good guess??? I thought you new it was vascular dystonia all this time, before we even started talking about
SLAVRS  project?

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Gbolduev: "As far as fasting , I did it since my POIS got  so far that I had lymph nodes enlarged and  I suspected  lymphoma.  So I did not really  care about weight , I was trying to burn anything  that is  foriegn in me. 25 day fast was a  hard fast, but  it is amazing how it cleared out my head. After which  I lost  20 kg in 25 days,  my overall health improved  dramatically after the fast. POIS improved  about 40% or so "

I thought you had a cure already before than?

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Gbolduev: "Zinc increases  progesterone , progesterone increases zinc."
"CIAO  people and dont  waste your time , start balancing now. Find practitioners since I  wont do it  anymore. "

How interesting!


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ENOUGH IS ENOUGH Gbolduev.

If Gbolduev continues with his attacks and does not immediately ceases the nonsense, we will be posting all of this information on the pages of slavrsyndrome.com for public to review.












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« Reply #18806 on: 28/08/2013 15:42:15 »
SLAVRS

You came here and you are strethening me?  are you insane?

1)I  proved every point of what I  posted with  scientific  evidence as opposed to you , since all the posts that I  posted were challenged. And you dont  have to post   this to people,  since WE were here  and you  were not and everyone saw my posts.

2)And  I started to help people here since NEW YEARS of 2013 , which is half a year ago.
The posts that you posted   described what I experienced when I was sick, which was much earlier than that.

You said  you wont post here anymore, what happened?   

Public  review on your site?  NO one even looks at it , imposter. Dont make me laugh.

If you want a small review of my system, you can go   to DR WILSON site   http://www.drlwilson.com/and   read ,  since he desribed   a small part  of what doctor ECKs  system was, and I specified  it for POIS.  since I did extensive testing of the imbalances. I always claimed that I   took over  dr Eck work and never lied about it . Not like you  impostering   existing  syndrome. I am here only for help , I dont create sites and dont call  crap with my name.

And stop this nonsense about  copper zinc balance, it is  1/100s of the problem.

As far as practitioners,   you can go  to any  practitioner who does hairtests and  get it  yourself.  It is a vast choice  of them.  YOu can  go to another company like Trace elements also,  or   any other  companies that you know who will try to balance you  and then you will  see the results of that balancing. 

It is public info  and  you can discuss  any part of it and challenge it .
GO read and learn , imposter. 

And dont post here anymore,  we dont like  liars.



BOTTOM  LINE YOUR PROJECT IS  GARBAGE ,since    you just IMPOSTERED    VEGETATIVE  VASCULAR DYSTONIA.( and no it is not  caused  by cardiovascular problem,  stop your nonsense,  since every one was  diagnosed with it in Russia and we know exacrtly what it is)  And you   just claimed couple of posts ago, that   with your syndrom  people have no  problems with blood pressure fluctuations, which is ridiculous and  completly FALSE.  As everyone here knows. 

HOW LOW can you go   mentioning my wife?   or claiming   me physcotic. 


I am  not the ONE  who IMPOSTERS  the  existed Syndrom and renames it.,  comes  to this forum  out  of nowhere and then presents the information that I posted here and then selectively   posts my POSTs  ommitting the ones that are of real value.

There are people  on this forum and  on the russian forum that claimed RECOVERY ...WHAT ABOUT YOU?  NONE?

And if you  ever mention  my wife again, ,  You will see the outcome of that.   МУДИЛА

I spend 24 hours here , helping people,  taking    tests from people  , I  spend my time and energy for no money and then some  rookie  going to call me stuff.   WHO ARE YOU?  go to your site and stay there

Never mind me, I dont  call  anything my own name. 

If this  does not prove your agenda  then I dont  know what  does.   

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« Reply #18807 on: 28/08/2013 15:53:57 »
30. =============
Gbolduev: "BOTTOM  LINE YOUR PROJECT IS  GARBAGE ,since    you just IMPOSTERED    VEGETATIVE  VASCULAR DYSTONIA."

Vegetative Vascular Dystonia affects a cardiovascular system, mostly the heart. POIS is not one of them.




 

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« Reply #18808 on: 28/08/2013 16:13:42 »
You know, this all looks too funny. Gbolduev pushes through his zinc/copper/manganese cure and slavrsyndrome project have found the issue to be vascular in nature.

slavrsyndrome.com does not propose a particular treatment based on a single element, yet provides the applicable tests to narrow down the diagnosis to resolve the issue.

Both are radically different things, no?

Gbolduev is a healer to fix the balance by simple set of ceruloplasmin, ferritin, copper, thyroid, hair tests, yet, he does not understand why his balancing may or may not be helpful. People keep chewing the vitamins, spinach, mineral supplements without knowing what hit them in the first place. Some of them get their adrenaline glands going that reduces inflammation and POIS symptoms, yet not realizing that something is wrong somewhere other than their ceruloplasmin or ferritindomain.

We found that ceruloplasmin, copper, thyroid, and all mentioned tests were not of a significance alone and simply reflected an underlying condition. The same applies to thyroid disease for example. You can supplement with hormones and nutrients, but the original cause of it remains unknown.

Why is there an argument at all here between Gbolduev feeding vitamins according to his tests and slavrsyndrome making a statement that POIS is an expression of vascular nature, that can also be caused by other types of vascular diseases? Finding the cause of a vascular disease is not easy, and no ceruloplasmin, ferritin, copper, thyroid and hair tests are not going to bring the answers, other than a very mild symptomatic relief.

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« Reply #18809 on: 28/08/2013 16:21:42 »
SLAVRS

AMAZING nerv of someone who does not know what I do.
Person gets tested first, with blood test and hairtests, after which  I know exacrtly where the problem is and we narrow it down, since you see your metabolism as an open book with absolutely all systems in the body.

This is what is on your site:

E Lactose intolerance C-reactive protein Liver, pancreatic, kidney and thyroid functions Serum calcium, magnesium, potassium, sodium, creatinine, ferritin (in children), electrolytes, glucose and insulin Urine protein and glucose Vitamin B group, while paying particular attention to pantothenic and nicotinic acids Infectious diseases work-up to help to minimize additional oxidative stress. Most common evaluations should include but not limited to parasitology, CMV, HSV, EB, HCV, lyme disease,pathogenic bacterial and streptococcal species -


How is this different , I dont get.  Do you  realize that  your problem that you dont know body chemistry and you dont know which one of those tests is based on  what  minreal and metal interactions. 
Now I understand your problem.   I  got tested like that also ,  it cost my  fortune,   that is why  I  created simplified  system where I test blood and hair at the same time, but   I know exact body chemistry , and I know  every value of what you will be testing   spending  gazillion of dollars.  DO YOU GET THIS?

Something that you are planning on workng on.Since you mentioned it , how pathetic is it  to diminish work of someone who is arleady doing what   you are  only   thinking about?

If  what you just posted  is true, then  why the hell are you  posting here at ALL.
YOU just clearly  stated that you  dont know what it is. And anyone  can claim something stupid, since  it cant be  proven .

Every process  in the body  is done biochemically,  I dont  look at ceruloplasmin . I look at the balance of the body , and then I find what   causes   the balance to be impaired. 

HAHAH,   your cell is  created from minerals .  Vascular  problem is the imbalance problem. As I mentioned  CA/MG and NA/K  problem,   where do you see  any  zinc copper manganese in this?

You  just imposter VVD   that is all.
If you read my posts you will know that I just  dont balance  thyroid , I am sick of you   keep telling me about this. 

The problem is that you  found the syndrom that is common in    POIS suffers which is  VVD.

And I  already found  how to get rid of it and  not drool on it like you.


Where did VVD come from?      you have no answer and I do, so    why dont you  just keep mute.
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« Reply #18810 on: 28/08/2013 16:28:31 »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetative-vascular_dystonia

THIS IS TO STOP YOUR GARBAGE



http://knowledge-storage.com/medicine/37-medicine/111-vegetative-vascular-dystonia

DO you  people see yourself   here?   read the symptoms..

Syndrome Vegetative-vascular dystonia can arise at an organic lesion of a brain. Any form of a cerebral pathology is accompanied by vegetative disturbances. They are most expressed at a lesion of deep structures: a fulcrum, a hypothalamus and a limbic brain.
 
There are types of  VVD  and   it effects all tissues.  Not just  heart
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« Reply #18811 on: 28/08/2013 16:43:04 »
Keep making fun of yourself gbolbuev now with VVD. Because of course you knew everything before and you cured everybody before they were even sick!

Now you are going to be "the one" to treat vegetative vascular dystonia, after our findings of vascular nature. Yet, vegetative-vascular-dystonia's core is its effect on the heart. Do you even realize that giving people the idea that they have vegetative vascular dystonia, which is not even recognized in the US as treatable condition, will cause such a spike in profound depression, confusion, and feeling of helplessness because it's simply overwhelming? POIS is vascular in nature, but until it's scientifically proven, it NOT vegetative vascular dystonia.

Have you heard of plagiarism? Aren't you the imposter of Dr. Wilson and all studies you could find on internet that you keep posting as your own explanation of "how things work?".

Liver flushes, diets, detox, balancing - there is ENOUGH of it on the web and they all address common dietary imbalances observed in modern dietary intake, which you keep posting here.

Now you are going to be a leading expert and  "trained professional" to treat cardiovascular diseases. And all other doctors are bullshit and no nothing about what you already new. You will be screaming through the entire Internet about your findings and diagnose people with vegetative vascular dystonia. This is SO dangerous. Vegetative vascular dystonia is manifestations of the symptoms, don't scare people as there is NO definite treatment.

Just look at the progress of your posts as I just posted above in chronological order! You contradict yourself with every single post you make. You show your ignorance, failure to understand basic concepts, you confuse people, and among all these posts they cannot find information they are looking for. An most importantly, if you have no understanding of what you deal with, the involvement of process, can't communicate and have mental issues, address those first before keeping accusing someone in wrongdoing.

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« Reply #18812 on: 28/08/2013 16:43:48 »
Slavrs,

Again, could you present the result of your research in the most scientific and methodic way possible ? (subject/symtoms/test protocol/results/possible cause/feed back result after cure...)
Additionnaly it would be interesting that you present yourself and your friends ; who guys are you to go into a research with personnal fund and as I understand with no medical knowledge ?

So far I can't find anything usefull in your site...I'm sorry but most of the statements are very common sense or suplements we have all tried with no result ; what the point in discovering the mecanism if it does'nt help ?

I believe it's better that we put all the ressources in commun, share,  learn for each other and possibly give the best feed back possible to scientist who I hope will conduct research later
 

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« Reply #18813 on: 28/08/2013 16:59:04 »
SLAVR
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Just look at the progress of your posts as I just posted above in chronological order! You contradict yourself with every single post you make. You show your ignorance, failure to understand basic concepts, you confuse people, and among all these posts they cannot find information they are looking for. An most importantly, if you have no understanding of what you deal with, the involvement of process, can't communicate and have mental issues, address those first before keeping accusing someone in wrongdoing.


Every aspect of what I was saying was  discussed on the forum,  so far   you came here with claims  that have absolutely  no  basis underneath,  no research.  I posted the cause of POIS  here and everyone knows  it and  you dont have to  go thru my post selectively   
I helped ., people  proving my theory . WHo did you help?   NOBODY.  COMPLETE ZERO...    Since you  claim there is no cure for this.


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Now you are going to be "the one" to treat vegetative vascular dystonia, after our findings of vascular nature. Yet, vegetative-vascular-dystonia's core is its effect on the heart. Do you even realize that giving people the idea that they have vegetative vascular dystonia, which is not even recognized in the US as treatable condition, will cause such a spike in profound depression, confusion, and feeling of helplessness because it's simply overwhelming? POIS is vascular in nature, but until it's scientifically proven, it NOT vegetative vascular dystonia.

First of all, it is  you who are claiming that all these people  have the syndrom that you made up  from VVD and that  there is no cure for it, and   YOU  put them into  depression and agony. I  provide solution as oppose to  you.
Secondly  VVD has many effects and  POIS suffers  almost everyone has  core affect on the heart,  as on many other systems, since   blood vessels and  capillars are everywhere
Read it again, if you  are still in denial
http://knowledge-storage.com/medicine/37-medicine/111-vegetative-vascular-dystonia

DO YOU UNDESTAND THAT   EVERY SINGLE BODY WAS TOLD THAT THEIR POIS IS  BECAUSE OF DYSTONIA by  doctors in Russia.   Everybody knows that they have dystonia, rookie.  Dystonia is the imbalance and POIS is also an imbalance and one is not the cause of the other.


I am going to treat vascular  dystonia?  I already  cured it and   I was treating it  before even  you  came here,  what is your findings?   I dont get , there are no findings.  If I knew arleady about  dystonia and its causes why would I care about  your findings ,I dont undestand, since your findings   just  desribe dystonia... And there is no cure for dystonia   in Russia,  most of it the same bs as you suggest,  some excersies ,anti stress and looking  for a cause    amongst  million  diiferent blood tests.   SAME EXACT THING...    Go post  this crap on  VVD forum  in russian, they will laugh in your face..)))   

I hope Victor come out and  will tell this imposter than  I was working with many people with   VVD on the russian  forum , specifically and posting many many posts about it...   VICTOR could you please help  me here.  This imposter is geting  HOT.AHAH
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Have you heard of plagiarism? Aren't you the imposter of Dr. Wilson and all studies you could find on internet that you keep posting as your own explanation of "how things work?".





WOW, and as far as doctor Wilsons and plagarism are concerned...Imposter is  the one who   take something and claims it  authentic  just like you  did with VVD.


I  used the work of DR eck and I always say it and  I dont put my name on   POIS and  Vascular dystonia   where do you see any plagarism?  Now I see your agenda  clearly,   you see I am  not taking  an exam here in college  where I cant copy someone elses work and claim it is  mine,  I am just helping people with absolutely  no  agenda as oppose to you and I clearly state that I am using   the work  of dr ECK which was reseach for the life time.

If you dont  understand the difference between 2  , then  how can you research anything you  are just simply dumb/
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« Reply #18814 on: 28/08/2013 17:24:36 »
AMAZINGLY enough ,  this guy keeps posting,  even after saying he would not .
I guess it sucks  when  someone is  on to you...

YOu see I dont have an investor and I dont really care if I am banned from this forum as I stated before.  You obviously   cant afford that,  since you need to keep  advertising your bs here, even after I totally proven that  you are FRAUD,
 

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« Reply #18815 on: 28/08/2013 17:52:11 »
Dear  Slavrs

For your information we have been discussing  Vascular  Dystonia  for more than half a year already on the Rusian  forum.  Most of  the guys  on  the forum  were diagonosed with  it  by  our medical community.  After saying that,  it seems that your research  is very  outdated.

Herman specifically  discussed  dystonia and  the effects of it on POIS.  Unfortunately  even after our diagonsis it is almost impossible to get rid of dystonia Many hospitals  offer to do it with IVs , extensive  testing  with no results.
 

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« Reply #18816 on: 28/08/2013 19:15:24 »
Dear Slavrs,

I appreciate your work on doing POIS research and making results publicly available. I don't feel having enough level of competence at the moment to make assessment of your work or work of Herman. I feel pain about you both arguing so emotionally. But arguing give the birth of truth, so it's generally a good thing in the end.

I appreciate efforts of Herman very much. He does help people and the results are visible. I can confirm that many with Vascular Dystonia reported serious improvement on Russian forum. I remember Vsevolod and Gringo who had outstanding results and have almost freed from VVD symptoms and feel themselves the best in their life. I think slon_ik and possibly others reported relieve in VVD symptoms, I don't remember now, need to check. Gringo and Sorbe reported that they have zero POIS symptoms now.

Most members on the Russian Forum were diagnosed with VVD and undergone different Vascular treatments from different doctors many times and had zero results. So I'm not sure how insisting on the Vascular nature of the syndrome and recommending to go visit doctor might help us practically?

Victor
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« Reply #18817 on: 28/08/2013 19:59:36 »
While I can not assess what they say from scientific point of view, it's clear to me that Slavrs has some kind of agenda behind his activity. All this story about 27 people looks suspicious. How could someone find 27 POIS-affected people without addressing thematic forums like this one?

And why someone would keep all his research in secret until his website is ready and not discuss the results with community here.

If a person doesn't plan to monetize his research he would not bother with making up new named syndromes, creating website and so on. It's simple as that.

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« Reply #18818 on: 28/08/2013 20:06:24 »
I'm hoping this is going to be finalizing with Gbolduev.

I will no longer reply or read his posts for the sake of the community here. It's not fair to discuss arguments pertaining personal goals of one individual such as Gbolduev that pursues the recognition of his carrier through posting on the forums like thenakedscientists.com while taking advantage of information brought by other people experiences and studies produced collectively by others.

Gbolduev. As a self-proclaimed healer of POIS and DYSTONIA that no one in the world could treat until now but you, with zinc and copper, you should first understand the simple concepts in terminology, which hopefully will alleviate your anxiety that leads you to become manic. Some lithium supplementation at 3-5mg a day before bed may help you as well. And I'm very sorry to put it in these terms, but I have no explanation for such social, I mean anti-social behavior.

Now, back to accusations. There are no imposters, which is an improper word to use anyway.

A syndrome is not a disease. A syndrome is a description of a pattern and association of underlying diseases that can cause an illness. Just like POIS is a syndrome that can have MANY underlying causes and diseases associated with it, and it can describe cardiovascular diseases as a part of the syndrome.

Identifying a pattern and how it affects the capillaries where an endothelium compromise in an underlying issue, is our finding. And it is MAJOR. This condition can have many underlying conditions, including the diseases that cumulatively produce the effect on endothelium function.

Now WHICH vascular disease that causes POIS vascular failure, would be the question of each individual case. It's not going to be treated alone with nutritional balancing. It may only be alleviated with nutritional balancing.

Dystonia can only be ONE of the potential causes but it’s not particularly a candidate because most people who report being affected by POIS do not have a cardiovascular condition, which is the primary manifestation of the type of Dystonia being referred to. POIS affected individuals will have the blood pressure generally in the normal range. Out of all people we conducted personalized studies with, only about 35% had lower-normal blood pressure throughout all the symptomatic stages. All others were either in normal or a little elevated range.

So no, you can not blame anyone identifying a pattern and the cause of a condition regardless of the name given. An "Imposter", would take a DISEASE and rename it under a different name OF A DISEASE. For example we take a cardiovascular disease and name it cardio-intra-vascular disease. Now this would be the case. Do you understand the meaning of the syndrome definition now? If a disease or more associated conditions are a contributing factor to invoke a particular condition, it becomes a syndrome.

Understand this Gbolduev before you copy elements interactions and paste them on the forums.

At least you all know at this point, what the nature of POIS is, and that mineral imbalance, toxicity or infections alone may not be the only cause of it. And it's the most important development of POIS awareness, which can be attributed to the unique function of thenakedscientists.com forums.

We have listed all major lab findings of the POIS and provided detailed lists of tests, which identified the issues within 85% of all studies we have performed. Now this is significant, because providing that someone who wants a resolution of POIS will follow this specific testing protocol, can achieve a so called “cure” with the rate of 85%, unlike juggling with zinc, copper and manganese and some vitamins, which is a “Russian roulette” type of thing. It may hit something or it may not. If the cause is identified this translates to a recovery of 8.5 people out of 10.

Thank you and accept my apologies for long posts. We should leave this subject alone and let people decide what they need to get better instead. There are many diseases, and many protocols to treat them. Each protocol has its plus and minuses, and there is no perfect protocol that treats chronic diseases with 100% success.

As time goes by and there is time, we'll put more info on slavrsyndrome.com, including some case studies and aggregate test reports to show the mean averages from the test batches. The only suggestion would be due to the complexity of nature, hire a doctor that can perform the labs suggested. Finding a cause over the internet with basic blood test and noted hair analysis results may be a major waste of one's lifetime.

Marc.
 

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« Reply #18819 on: 28/08/2013 20:25:57 »
While I can not assess what they say from scientific point of view, it's clear to me that Slavrs has some kind of agenda behind his activity. All this story about 27 people looks suspicious. How could someone find 27 POIS-affected people without addressing thematic forums like this one?

And why someone would keep all his research in secret until his website is ready and not discuss the results with community here.

If a person don't plan to monetize his research he would not bother with making up new named syndromes, creating website and so on. It's simple as that.



Ah, so the P.O.I.S name for this syndrome was invented by people who wanted to make money? The poiscenter website was setup to profit from POIS? Nope, wrong on all counts.
 

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« Reply #18820 on: 28/08/2013 20:34:59 »
Kurtosis,

1)POIS was created as   that name was obvious from the illness , as oppose to this   bs syndrome  totally copied from  VVD or vegetative  vascular  dystonia,   If you read  about dystonia you will see that if affect capillar same as anything else.

2)This is a forum, and  not the presentation  of the syndrome,  claiming that  owners of  POIS forum  created it and now they found this  syndrome.And it does not  have copyright sign on POIS syndrome name.

POIS forum is discussing POIS.   POIS is not owned by POIS  forum or  POIS center,  and they never claimed it.

those  clowns  presented their syndrome, which is totally   copied from  VVD and they copyrighted it.. SO   there is definetely  a HUGE AGENDA undernearth all of this.


So he is not wrong on  all counts , as a matter of fact you are.


Also , I suspect that  this SLAV  guy  got tested    with me, since he  slips up sometimes  about things, that I tell  people  personally.  This makes this guy even  more creepy.

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« Reply #18821 on: 28/08/2013 20:49:18 »
SLAVRS

Yet another promise from  SLAVRS not to post here.  LMAO

If syndrome is not a desease,  then WHAT ARE DOING HERE... CALL IN FOR NOBLE PRIZE AND PROVE IT  AMONGST SCIENTISTS and stop brainswashing people here.
   
People barely  have  2 cents to their name ,,  since they are sick with POIS and  you   suggest them to  do extensive testing   which will cost  thousands of dollars?   are you INSANE.
I developed the system to read metabolism  by the minimal number of test,  which is the whole idea of my system.
Of course the perfect scenario would be to  do  total testing, in which  every parameter that you mentioned on your site  would be  included.  And I Ask people can they affrod extensive testing or not, or  they would like to go short way, since they have no money.
   
and no insurance will cover those test that you suggested  and peopel will pay a fortune  for the visits to the doctors,

YOu are not practical,  imposter. Since you did not work with people, you have your INVESTOR.



You seems to completely  disregard what people just posted for you .  Hit or miss,  85%    cure rate?
 
If I have 85% cure rate as  you claim I would have with my system  I will  win NOBEL PRIZE,  you  imposter.
I am not self proclaimed, people just posted for you the results  of my work..
Of course  it is easier  for you to attack me.  Attack those peopel now,  you smuck

HAHA  this is  CRAZY    there is no difference between capillaries and blood vessels ,  and  this CLOWN already  ADDED    VVD on  his   site.. as of today... ( that was very fast)


Quote from  SLAV on his site:
"Syndrom  identifies the root cause of symptomatic expressions in the chronic inflammatory diseases without a pathological diagnosis.
 It does not identify the cause of the underlying conditions that lead to a compromised function of the capillary endothelium since the spectrum of causes appears to be greater than could be feasibly accessed by a the studies involved."

This  is  totally  Vegetative  Vascular  Dystonia, and   it shouldnt be separated in  some other bs.   This is  the part of  VVD.. Now every clown  will come out and will try to  separate VVD into    nail VVD Capilar  VVD , what is next    penis  VVD and the rest.   ALL blood vessels are affected  here at once, not just capillars.

If you  dont know how to cure this,  you dont know what  leads to it. And all your research is total crap.  And you are in  no  way   an authority on POIS or CFS or anything... You just stated that you dont know what  the syndrom is caused by and you dont know the solutions for it...   SO your  rate of  cure will be much less than my 85%.
How can someone talk about  rate of cure,  if you dont even know how to approach this  problem... I am  doing  extensive testing for people and find their causes, same as would do  any  normal doctor who knows  his stuff.

I posted  POIS to be  systematic problem, and the cure  is different for  everyone.  Same as you  say,  what ways do you  have to solve systematic problem,  what?    you cant post any solutions, since   nutritional   balancing    will   balance the body chemitry and  that is the only  way I know how... 

You have completely no arguement here,    you  offer nothing and I offer something..What is there to argue about?
IF you ever try to fix people , you will be offering them supplements?  NO?     of course yes.
How is this different from what I am doing now?   or you are planning to cure  people  with AIR , or  may be  some  prayer?

The only difference is that you  dont have the system right now, and it takes a lot of knowledge to develop it, which you completely lack.

 

Same as  many doctors,   they would rather spend  time  on researching what  causes  your HAIRS to   go up and  what is the exact mechanism  of  a wink,  then  to try  to research what  causes the thing,  we know how it affects us., we can  feel it.

You have absolutely no   solutions and  no real studies , since if you did , they would have been on the site.
Now I guess you will be   fabricating  those also.  WHAT IS YOUR AGENDA,   imposterous  friend of ours.

First you claimed that since  time limitations you wont have the site up in 6 weeks,  boom in less in a week it is up...Now    you have been posting here all day long...  How about those time limitations? HUH

Read what  people   write to you, and  stop attacking me.
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« Reply #18822 on: 28/08/2013 20:56:02 »
Slavrs aka Marc,

So from the posts above many people here would like to know how did you 27 guys from different countries find each other and was able to coordinate and do some research and didn't participate in our forums? We are extremely curious to know this.

Victor
 

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« Reply #18823 on: 28/08/2013 21:06:55 »
Victor,

Ahahah,  they were too busy copying my stuff.)))))   These fraudsters are amazing.
 

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« Reply #18824 on: 28/08/2013 21:15:12 »
I have some feeling of Deja Vu.

I had the situation in this forum that resembles me this one very much. When I found out about Niacin from Olga Bruslenko and started to recommend a form of Niacin called Xanthionl-Nicotinate to POIS people in Russia to relieve the symptoms. One of those people - Dmitriy who had 100% relief from Xanthionl-Nicotinate and whom I have consulted in the ICQ every day posted on this forum a big lie (without letting me know) that there was a solid research in Russia and that after this research the cure was found - Xanthinol-Nicotinate:
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.14305
My reply to Dmitriy's insinuations:
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.14374#msg_361431

Do you remember this story?

Don't you have a feeling of Deja Vu about the research on a group of people that have arosen out from nowhere?

Victor
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