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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19225 on: 13/12/2013 20:15:19 »
A new POLL > http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=49790.0

check what's common within POISers
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19226 on: 14/12/2013 08:15:16 »
Yeah, Cool . 8D
 

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« Reply #19227 on: 14/12/2013 12:03:47 »
I have to say that SSBT is very interesting, mrvat7 thank you for posting.

If i were to contact my doctor about this, what remedy would i ask for, surgery?

http://www.vasectomypain.org/immunologic_consequences
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19228 on: 14/12/2013 12:43:03 »
Hello johanstefansson
 Pleasure's all mine.

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If i were to contact my doctor about this, what remedy would i ask for, surgery?

Yes, a surgery to close open channel that lead semen into bloodstream. Try to convince your doctor about SSBT and how it causes POIS. Tell him this may be rare or he may not have seen such case earlier, but that doesn't mean that SSBT-POIS does not exist.

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19229 on: 17/12/2013 17:19:24 »
Hi MrVat7,

Appears to be a one person party at that link.

The autoimmune theories has been inexhaustibly discussed over 793 pages on this thread.  For a party treat I suggest you review those pages and enjoy :)

EDIT- I highly recommend reviewing my previous posts about the professional research guided hypersensitivity tests for semen and sperm (blood based).  These tests were preformed by the University of Cincinnati's Dr Bernstein.  Feel free to do a google search...
« Last Edit: 17/12/2013 17:27:07 by Limejuice »
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19230 on: 17/12/2013 17:26:23 »
Hello MrVat7,
I just will tell more my case. I am over 50 but even I had once in month ejaculation I have POIS symtoms. Three years ago I got small brain lesion left side after masturbation, same time when I lost eye sight.  This is like Multiple sclerosis (MS), but this is from POIS. I have realized that there is difference between sex with partner or masturbation. Masturbating will destroy your body faster if you are POISers. Since that I never masturbate and very hard to think about sex with partner. But now even I live like monk I am not POIS free. I have lot of chronic problems but my body again under mild POIS attack after I push stools out during defecation. Many POISers are talking about this. Is this fluid from prostate and seminal vescles? I can see like per seminal fluid in my urethra after pushing. Also I feel same mild POIS after I just have  sexless relationships. I have never tried Niacin flush or Viagra for eliminate POIS symtoms but now this is only hope to go on.  I just wondering, there are many hundreds POISers but they are almost gone. A they cured by AD as this is only offical treatment for us with "funny" symtoms.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19231 on: 17/12/2013 19:14:52 »
Hi Icefloe
Discharge of seminal fluid during defecation is common in your age group. What happens is as one passes his 50s many muscles gets weak. Passage of fluid from prostate and seminal vesicle is governed by tiny muscles which act as valves in regulating fluid flow. As those muscles get weak small pressure can make fluid release from prostate or seminal vesicle. During defecation there is majority of pressure on prostate, so maybe your fluid is getting released from there. Some of sperms get reserved in the prostate,which are mainly leftovers from previous ejaculation,or are sent from testis as daily basis(if you had thought/seen/experienced something seductive). As those few sperms get into your bloodstream you have mild POIS attack. To avoid those mild POIS attack you can avoid experiencing something seductive. I recommend you to get blood tested for presence of sperm in bloodstream. Remember only get blood tested when you are under POIS symptoms. If the results are positive then you can ask local physician to find the active leakage site and get it closed.

Getting your testicles removed may help curing POIS as then there will be no sperms to enter bloodstream. You may consider getting blood checkup, and try to convince local physician about SSBT, you may get your total urethra checked up,now-a-days Cystoscopy is used, you can possibly find a small channel somewhere there.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19232 on: 18/12/2013 11:39:32 »
Getting your testicles removed may help curing POIS as then there will be no sperms to enter bloodstream. You may consider getting blood checkup, and try to convince local physician about SSBT, you may get your total urethra checked up,now-a-days Cystoscopy is used, you can possibly find a small channel somewhere there.
^ That is a very drastic solution. It also assumes sperm is the problem. I suspect it would some other protein in the seminal fluid rather than sperm. Testosterone can be used as a contraceptive, and for a while there companies were going to market it as such with implants. Side effects for some men were such that it was decided it was not viable to market it as a contraceptive. Testosterone will inhibit spermatogenesis. I have taken high dose T (above TRT levels and got testicle shrinkage) and still suffered from pois. Pois was not as bad once I got on TRT though. As far as I can tell there is no blood test to detect sperm in blood, but more along the lines of checking for antibodies. They sometimes do this as part of fertility treatment for couples that have trouble conceiving. I read some stories of guys that had high levels of antibodies, which attached to the sperm and drastically effected quality & mobility. In these cases the guys never suffered from any adverse health consequences, beyond reduced fertility.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19233 on: 20/12/2013 21:20:18 »
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^ That is a very drastic solution. It also assumes sperm is the problem. I suspect it would some other protein in the seminal fluid rather than sperm. Testosterone can be used as a contraceptive, and for a while there companies were going to market it as such with implants. Side effects for some men were such that it was decided it was not viable to market it as a contraceptive. Testosterone will inhibit spermatogenesis. I have taken high dose T (above TRT levels and got testicle shrinkage) and still suffered from pois. Pois was not as bad once I got on TRT though. As far as I can tell there is no blood test to detect sperm in blood, but more along the lines of checking for antibodies. They sometimes do this as part of fertility treatment for couples that have trouble conceiving. I read some stories of guys that had high levels of antibodies, which attached to the sperm and drastically effected quality & mobility. In these cases the guys never suffered from any adverse health consequences, beyond reduced fertility.

Hello Acronym

Well I dont recommend anyone to get testis removed, one of member here has got both of his testis removed and feels 90% relief from POIS and that is why Ive posted it so that FEW here dont feel that what they have done is incorrect and that I am just saying about SSBT. He is taking testosterone injection/ drug to keep testosterone levels intact. Seminal fluids and prostate secretion can also bring immune system attention. I agree that increasing testosterone levels to high levels can cause FSH inhibition and so inhibiting Spermatogenesis. You might get semen checked after increasing testosterone levels to see whether your drug has really inhibited spermatogenesis. If so there would be no sperm cells in your semen. If there are sperms in your semen, then they are still entering your bloodstream to cause immunological response. You might get semen checked after increasing T levels, semen -sperm count tests are done cheaply this days, you might get it done to verify your drug. This is interesting case. I predict there are sperm cells in your semen. 
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19234 on: 21/12/2013 00:02:07 »
POIS GRANT AWARDED/ACCEPTED 5:00 PM EST THURSDAY EVENING!

Barry Komisaruk, PhD from Rutgers University in New Jersey, is the award recipient and the Principal Investigator for the first formal POIS study. He will be working in conjunction with an MD from Rutgers.

The research will focus on fMRI's in men with POIS, will include control subjects for comparison, and will examine brain function before, during and after orgasm.

The purpose of the study is to observe reactions and structural changes that may be occurring in the brains of POIS sufferers -- changes which explain the severe cognitive impairments of POIS, and also potentially explain the general physical reactions as a whole (pain, headache, severe fatigue, as examples).

If brain reactions are found, this will lead to determining the cause of POiS -- but more importantly -- may well elucidate treatments that are available now-- to counteract these changes.

Landmark study!!!!  More to follow!!!!
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« Reply #19235 on: 21/12/2013 00:29:10 »
I'm not very far from Rutgers, my mother actually graduated from there! fMRI is such a powerful technology, I'm really glad that's the method they are going to use!
 

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« Reply #19236 on: 21/12/2013 00:50:20 »
Does anyone have contact with researchers ? can anyone make them aware about SSBT , just to enlighten an idea in researchers ? and yeah Hurray guys..I wish we all be free from pois soon. 
 

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« Reply #19237 on: 21/12/2013 00:55:23 »
I'm not very far from Rutgers, my mother actually graduated from there! fMRI is such a powerful technology, I'm really glad that's the method they are going to use!

Thanks, Nightingale ! We'll need you!



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« Reply #19238 on: 21/12/2013 03:06:31 »
Does anyone have contact with researchers ? can anyone make them aware about SSBT , just to enlighten an idea in researchers ? and yeah Hurray guys..I wish we all be free from pois soon. 

I'm sure they read your posts, MrVat7.

 

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« Reply #19239 on: 21/12/2013 12:21:16 »
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I'm sure they read your posts, MrVat7.

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« Reply #19240 on: 21/12/2013 14:18:23 »
demografx

Thanks for the news,I think that doctors will find a cure for us

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« Reply #19242 on: 21/12/2013 23:53:51 »
demografx

Thanks for the news,I think that doctors will find a cure for us



I think so too, Kima! :)
 

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« Reply #19243 on: 22/12/2013 16:38:04 »
This doctor will explore our syndrome.

http://nwkpsych.rutgers.edu/~brk/
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« Reply #19244 on: 23/12/2013 04:59:56 »
I am exited!! want to a life without POIS. Just cant wait . want to get cured asap!!
 

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« Reply #19245 on: 23/12/2013 12:58:23 »
Please ask them to read my posts too in which  i have mentioned my condition,life been a mess with these conditions :-'(.Thanks
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19246 on: 23/12/2013 13:23:12 »
I have the same problem for last few years.
 I am married with 3 kids and 33 yrs old. i had a omitting tendancy r& thowing up feeling right after orgasm. But not omitting. just feels tired. So i am not feeling much interest in sex. but my partner is very active.
it  happens even we do ORal sex also. can u please advise?
 

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« Reply #19247 on: 23/12/2013 17:20:29 »
I have the same problem for last few years.
 I am married with 3 kids and 33 yrs old. i had a omitting tendancy r& thowing up feeling right after orgasm. But not omitting. just feels tired. So i am not feeling much interest in sex. but my partner is very active.
it  happens even we do ORal sex also. can u please advise?

Does not sound like POIS, contact your doctor instead.
 

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« Reply #19248 on: 23/12/2013 20:40:27 »
I have the same problem for last few years.
 I am married with 3 kids and 33 yrs old. i had a omitting tendancy r& thowing up feeling right after orgasm. But not omitting. just feels tired. So i am not feeling much interest in sex. but my partner is very active.
it  happens even we do ORal sex also. can u please advise?
It does not quite sound like POIS to me either. So you only have 2 symptoms.
Feeling nauseous + feeling tired.
How long do you feel tired for after having an orgasm (how long does it take to get back to normal)?
When did this change in health related to orgasm occur (right after having your third child)?
When it comes to sex, if you do not have an orgasm does it make any difference to your tiredness?

 

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« Reply #19249 on: 24/12/2013 06:06:11 »

As you asked answers are given below :

It does not quite sound like POIS to me either. So you only have 2 symptoms.
Feeling nauseous + feeling tired.

YES you are right, myself also think so..

How long do you feel tired for after having an orgasm (how long does it take to get back to normal)?

it took may be 5minuts to 10 mints ( but first 2 to 3 minuts is severe. some times i bend by a a throw-up feeling. if my partner is doing oral, even i push him away during orgasm.

When did this change in health related to orgasm occur (right after having your third child)?

no i didn't remember exactly, but not after my 3d child. even before also. now for last few months may be last year itself, it happens in every orgasm, it will increase while i get a intense or heavy orgasm.

When it comes to sex, if you do not have an orgasm does it make any difference to your tiredness?
If there is no orgasm- then there no issue, no tirednes, no nauseous

is there any solution? or similar cases..

 

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