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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19375 on: 07/02/2014 08:07:18 »
I think few here are getting confused between POIS and CFS
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19376 on: 07/02/2014 08:22:30 »
So, for us confused plebes
what is your definition of POIS?

mine is major trauma after orgasm, lasting up to a week
what is your definition?

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« Reply #19377 on: 07/02/2014 09:21:53 »
fabulous links Z_two:
Pace - do not use up energy faster than your mitos can supply it.
Feed the mitochondria - supply the raw material necessary for the mitochondria to heal themselves and work efficiently. This means feeding the mitos correctly so they can heal and repair.
Address the underlying causes as to why mitochondria have been damaged. This must also be put in place to prevent ongoing damage to mitos. In order of importance this involves:
Pacing activities to avoid undue stress to mitos
Getting excellent sleep so mitos can repair
Excellent nutrition with respect to:
taking a good range of micronutrient supplements
stabilising blood sugar levels
identifying allergies to foods
Detoxifying to unload heavy metals, pesticides, drugs, social poisons (alcohol,tobacco etc) and volatile organic compounds, all of which which poison mitos.
Addressing the common problem of hyperventilation
Address the secondary damage caused by mitochondrial failure such as immune disturbances resulting in allergies and autoimmunity, poor digestive function, hormone gland failure, slow liver detoxification.
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Thank you for summarizing this nicely G. I am a stong beleiver that every human disease or illness has mitochodrial failure as a root cause,,,but that's just my opinion without claiming that's right or wrong as not to sound biased & over confident!
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19378 on: 07/02/2014 09:31:25 »
I think few here are getting confused between POIS and CFS

Dear, No one is getting confused! We're just exploring common grounds regarding common symptoms & regarding a common human body! Those links were posted to emphasize the Mitochondrial failure theory,,,If you want something related to both MF & sexual symtoms just google both key words combined and see how interesting it gets! But I am not going to spend my day doing secondary research & keep on posting links to try convincing you on anything. We're just brainstorming here,,,,None of us are savants or epic geniuses otherwise we'd be already cured long time ago!We're all sufferers and trying to help each other,,,So no need to question every proposition in a defensive attitude,,,Try to understand posters perspective first before judging them as being confused and which is quite offending by the way especialy to long time POIS sufferes who probably already have done tons of reading before posting what passes through their minds as possible key in unsolving the POIS damn puzzle!

Thank U.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19379 on: 07/02/2014 16:23:04 »
So, for us confused plebes
what is your definition of POIS?

mine is major trauma after orgasm, lasting up to a week
what is your definition?

g

Refer this wikipedia article >
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Symptoms usually appear within half an hour of orgasm and resolve after a few days.[3][4] The sufferer experiences mental symptoms, physical symptoms, or both. Common mental symptoms include cognitive dysfunction, intense discomfort, irritability, anxiety, craving for relief, susceptibility to nervous system stresses (e.g. common cold), depressed mood, and difficulty communicating, remembering words, reading and retaining information, concentrating, and socialising.[1][3][4][5] Physical symptoms include severe fatigue, mild to severe headache, and flu-like and allergy-like symptoms, such as sneezing, itchy eyes, nasal irritation, and muscle pain.[3][4] Affected individuals may also experience intense warmth or cold.[1][2]

There are as many symptoms that occur after an orgasm in POISers , not trauma. Many individuals get confused between POIS and some other syndrome / disorder. If you suffer from all the symptoms described above^ then you have POIS orelse something else. You may be suffering from few of the symptoms but that does not mean you have POIS. 'Almost' all the symptoms should match in order to suffer from POIS. For example POIS symptoms nearly match with that of MDD. POISer feels the symptoms after an ejaculation and recover within a week and MDD patient suffers for longer time ,say like 5-6 months .

There are many reasons for fatigue ( chronic ) to occur, not just mitochondria dysfunction . Getting severely vasoconstricted also causes fatigue , sleep too causes fatigue, exercise causes fatigue , low blood oxygen level causes fatigue .. and there are many more. Reason why I am focusing on triggers is that by that one can distinguish the reason behind occurrence a symptom .

POIS is not caused by mitochondrial dysfunction. Because If it was mitochondria dysfunction then it would take almost a month to recover for POISer and mitochondria enhancing drugs like ATP would help . Unfortunately these class of medicines do not help POISers . POIS-Fatigue is caused by Vasoconstriction. Vasodilating drugs like niacin helps to relieve fatigue and maintain proper bloodflow to organs.

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19380 on: 07/02/2014 18:25:28 »
So, for us confused plebes
what is your definition of POIS?

mine is major trauma after orgasm, lasting up to a week
what is your definition?

g

Refer this wikipedia article >
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Symptoms usually appear within half an hour of orgasm and resolve after a few days.[3][4] The sufferer experiences mental symptoms, physical symptoms, or both. Common mental symptoms include cognitive dysfunction, intense discomfort, irritability, anxiety, craving for relief, susceptibility to nervous system stresses (e.g. common cold), depressed mood, and difficulty communicating, remembering words, reading and retaining information, concentrating, and socialising.[1][3][4][5] Physical symptoms include severe fatigue, mild to severe headache, and flu-like and allergy-like symptoms, such as sneezing, itchy eyes, nasal irritation, and muscle pain.[3][4] Affected individuals may also experience intense warmth or cold.[1][2]

There are as many symptoms that occur after an orgasm in POISers , not trauma. Many individuals get confused between POIS and some other syndrome / disorder. If you suffer from all the symptoms described above^ then you have POIS orelse something else. You may be suffering from few of the symptoms but that does not mean you have POIS. 'Almost' all the symptoms should match in order to suffer from POIS. For example POIS symptoms nearly match with that of MDD. POISer feels the symptoms after an ejaculation and recover within a week and MDD patient suffers for longer time ,say like 5-6 months .

There are many reasons for fatigue ( chronic ) to occur, not just mitochondria dysfunction . Getting severely vasoconstricted also causes fatigue , sleep too causes fatigue, exercise causes fatigue , low blood oxygen level causes fatigue .. and there are many more. Reason why I am focusing on triggers is that by that one can distinguish the reason behind occurrence a symptom .

POIS is not caused by mitochondrial dysfunction. Because If it was mitochondria dysfunction then it would take almost a month to recover for POISer and mitochondria enhancing drugs like ATP would help . Unfortunately these class of medicines do not help POISers . POIS-Fatigue is caused by Vasoconstriction. Vasodilating drugs like niacin helps to relieve fatigue and maintain proper bloodflow to organs.

MrVat7

MrVat7 how would you know that it would take almost a month to recover? There is no precise time to recover dear,,,it depends on everyone 's body predispoition & own lifestyle as well as utilized means to recover.

Vasconstriction is a symptom not a cause . Yes Niacin does help some but not everyone & especialy those who are not deficient in Niacin !

All recent researches in the last decade are pointing out to the role mitonchondrial failure as the root cause of almost every illness know to humans. Add to that, that I was diagnosed myself with MF & took me yearz to improve & still not back to normal.

So simply & respectfuly allow me to tell you that I do not converge with any of your claims. Take care.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19381 on: 07/02/2014 19:04:38 »
Z_Two
Taking your example , you are suffering from MF since years, but POISers recover within a week , Then it cannot be mitochondria failure like you are suffering . You are not suffering from POIS , Please do not diagnose yourself wrong.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19382 on: 07/02/2014 19:17:28 »
Z_Two
Taking your example , you are suffering from MF since years, but POISers recover within a week , Then it cannot be mitochondria failure like you are suffering . You are not suffering from POIS , Please do not diagnose yourself wrong.

MrVat you seem very knowledgable and apparently you possess of a very hig IQ combined with very rich wanking experience and maybe a Cristal ball in hand . So we will leave the POIS case with your highness,,,but we'll be of course expecting you to provide us with a cure,,,,thousands of POIS sufferers around the globe as well as the whole world of science awaits for your conclusions & advices. Chill I am so excited about this,,,,good luck & we'll sure be watching you  ;D
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19383 on: 07/02/2014 20:34:35 »
Hey Z_Two
Perhaps we are all on the wrong thread here. Maybe our friend is the only one who really has POIS?
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19384 on: 07/02/2014 22:00:31 »
Z_Two

Yeah , No problem .

 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19385 on: 07/02/2014 22:03:15 »
Gcrisp
There are 1000+ members here who have POIS and experience symptoms as described earlier. You may be on wrong thread but not the other 1000+ members.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19386 on: 07/02/2014 22:05:41 »
Hey Z_Two
Perhaps we are all on the wrong thread here. Maybe our friend is the only one who really has POIS?
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Hey G, I agree let's evacuate the thousands of members from the stage and let's try to locate a thread that would welcome us as talkative retarded ignorants,,,,I am sure MrVat needs to concentrate much being the only victim of POIS left with brains over here,,,so I say we leave him in peace...preferably indefinately!  ;D
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19387 on: 07/02/2014 22:07:54 »
Z_Two

Yeah , No problem .

Great,,I'll even vote for you for the Nobel prize,,,but if you don't succeed Iam affraid that some angry mob might decide to chop off your balls. So again we'll be watching & good luck!  G, I am done!  ;D
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19388 on: 08/02/2014 02:16:03 »
Z_two

lol , okay cool . Btw I'll take care .
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19389 on: 08/02/2014 02:50:46 »
A wise man once said

'tis the folly of all lesser men
to believe they are chosen
then there's those who do dare
to think outside the square!

I guess he was a scientist as well as a poet
I'm off too, cheers, g
 

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« Reply #19390 on: 08/02/2014 13:55:52 »
This is not a joking forum
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19391 on: 08/02/2014 16:59:58 »
 

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« Reply #19392 on: 08/02/2014 17:06:49 »
Please keep posting your symptoms in the google spreadsheet, its a good start.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj7uLiV51rQbdDhFWlZ2NkpHNEExYVlka2MtTmYtRUE&usp=sharing
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19393 on: 08/02/2014 18:38:31 »
This madness will never end . Only a single medical study decides our fate.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19394 on: 08/02/2014 21:33:20 »
This is not a joking forum

Damn it seems the Fapping Cops were watching us all that time,,,,GUys quick get lost!  ;D
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19395 on: 09/02/2014 19:24:02 »
I think that the foggy brain which we POISers experience is due to shortage of blood supply to brain because of vasoconstriction .  We POISers undergo cerebral hypoxia. Is my thinking correct  ? Please Post your views .

Here's some detail about cerebral hypoxia > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_hypoxia

Symptoms of cerebral Hypoxia are.,

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The brain requires approximately 3.3 ml of oxygen per 100 g of brain tissue per minute. Initially the body responds to lowered blood oxygen by redirecting blood to the brain and increasing cerebral blood flow. Blood flow may increase up to twice the normal flow but no more. If the increased blood flow is sufficient to supply the brain’s oxygen needs then no symptoms will result. [19]
However, if blood flow cannot be increased or if doubled blood flow does not correct the problem, symptoms of cerebral hypoxia will begin to appear. Mild symptoms include difficulties with complex learning tasks and reductions in short-term memory. If oxygen deprivation continues, cognitive disturbances and decreased motor control will result.[19] The skin may also appear bluish (cyanosis) and heart rate increases. Continued oxygen deprivation results in fainting, long term loss of consciousness, coma, seizures, cessation of brain stem reflexes, and brain death.[20]
Objective measurements of the severity of cerebral hypoxia depend on the cause. Blood oxygen saturation may be used for hypoxic hypoxia, but is generally meaningless in other forms of hypoxia. In hypoxic hypoxia 95-100% saturation is considered normal. 91-94% is considered mild. 86-90% is considered moderate. Anything below 86% is considered severe.[21]
It should be noted that cerebral hypoxia refers to oxygen levels in brain tissue, not blood. Blood oxygenation will usually appear normal in cases of hypemic, ischemic and hystoxic cerebral hypoxia. Even in hypoxic hypoxia blood measures are only an approximate guide – the oxygen level in the brain tissue will depend on how the body deals with the reduced oxygen content of the blood.

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19396 on: 10/02/2014 08:10:29 »
I think that the foggy brain is due to the increase of blood pressure in the brain ..
 

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« Reply #19397 on: 10/02/2014 11:58:52 »
This madness will never end . Only a single medical study decides our fate.

true indeed
 

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« Reply #19398 on: 10/02/2014 12:11:45 »
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Sex is a form of exercise, and like exercise in general, it can cause your blood glucose levels to fall. If you use insulin, monitor your blood glucose level after sex.

has anyone really investigated diabetes, it seems many here are people who dont exercise enough
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19399 on: 10/02/2014 14:35:56 »
 Hello Doctor please ask you to tell me why you want to explore the vagus
nerve?


We hypothesize that some of the symptoms of POIS are indicative of
visceral sensory problems, such as digestive disorders, so we want to see
if there is a possible disruption of vagus nerve activity and if so,
whether modulating vagus nerve activity will help the symptoms.

Barry R. Komisaruk, Ph.D.
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