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« Reply #19700 on: 22/09/2014 22:54:43 »
Just read about acetylcholine and dopamine. Thought that it should help increase dopamine all along, but they seem to have an inverse relationship. I think we can all agree on that the best neurochemical issue that matches ALL of our symptoms is elevated acetylcholine. This has been mentioned on POIS boards a few hundred times. Has anyone had success with lowering ACh? What natural methods are used for lowering it and what is the cause behind it?
 

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« Reply #19701 on: 23/09/2014 02:35:20 »
hello everyone.
    has anyone tried resveratrol ? One member has very good results with resveratrol. i have not tried it. i am going to try it . tomorrow i may buy it. in the past in this forum some users reported success with blueberry juices, etc. blueberry juice contains resveratrol. i think it is worth to try resveratrol.
I am trying resveratrol now. 200mg / day. Its too early to report anything as I've only been on it less than a week, but so far this week has been pretty good for me, but then I have recently started a few other supps too like Mucuna Dopa and Sulbutiamine. Last year I took the herb Japanese Knotweed and my pois was  improved over that period, but I was still feeling pretty lousy. What is complicating things for me is that I have been diagnosed with Lyme disease. I was taking the Japanese Knotweed for this. it is very high in resveratrol. It sis supposed to be improve blood flow and be anti-microbial and anti-inflammatory. I am trialling resveratrol for the moment to see if I still get the same effect for less $.

I had reported in a past post that blue berries had helped to alleviate the impact of pois somewhat for me. They were no cure by any means but just helped with cognition + libidio bounce back + energy. For many years the effect seemed to have disappeared but when I switch to organic blueberries a few years back I noticed feeling better after eating them again, but not to the extent I did when I was younger. The brand of Japanese Knotweed tincture I used was from beneficialbotanicals, if you feel the resveratrol is helping a little and want to see if maybe JK might be better still. 
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« Reply #19702 on: 23/09/2014 06:18:05 »
hello everyone.
    has anyone tried resveratrol ? One member has very good results with resveratrol. i have not tried it. i am going to try it . tomorrow i may buy it. in the past in this forum some users reported success with blueberry juices, etc. blueberry juice contains resveratrol. i think it is worth to try resveratrol.
I am trying resveratrol now. 200mg / day. Its too early to report anything as I've only been on it less than a week, but so far this week has been pretty good for me, but then I have recently started a few other supps too like Mucuna Dopa and Sulbutiamine. Last year I took the herb Japanese Knotweed and my pois was  improved over that period, but I was still feeling pretty lousy. What is complicating things for me is that I have been diagnosed with Lyme disease. I was taking the Japanese Knotweed for this. it is very high in resveratrol. It sis supposed to be improve blood flow and be anti-microbial and anti-inflammatory. I am trialling resveratrol for the moment to see if I still get the same effect for less $.

I had reported in a past post that blue berries had helped to alleviate the impact of pois somewhat for me. They were no cure by any means but just helped with cognition + libidio bounce back + energy. For many years the effect seemed to have disappeared but when I switch to organic blueberries a few years back I noticed feeling better after eating them again, but not to the extent I did when I was younger. The brand of Japanese Knotweed tincture I used was from beneficialbotanicals, if you feel the resveratrol is helping a little and want to see if maybe JK might be better still.
Acronym sorry to hear about your lyme disease.I am going to order resveratrol today.it make a 2 or 3 days to reach my home. I will report how i feel with resveratrol. I am getting zenith nutritions resveratrol.
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« Reply #19703 on: 24/09/2014 16:09:21 »
Dear friends,

It has been ~4 years since I found this forum... I have POIS since I was 13 years old;
Now I am almost 36.

That syndrome hit me very hard over the years, the usual symptoms, brain fog, muscles pain, headaches, exhaustion, memory issues and many others... till it became chronically.

Over the years, I tried so many treatments, unfortunately - with very slight success.

Fortunately, I have found a doctor that treated me for the last 2 months and the results were unbelievable, my POIS is almost 100% gone.

Personally, I would like to connect any of you that is interested with that doctor that changed my life. I see it as a mission, as something that I must pay it forward since I know how much suffer and frustration are involved

If any of you is interested in details you are welcome to contact me in private,

Take the best care, Janiv
 

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« Reply #19704 on: 25/09/2014 12:59:43 »
Hey Janiv. That's so wonderful to hear you are now in the land of the normal after 23 yrs of suffering. You don't have to give out the doctor's details in the public forum, but you can't tease us like that with no details on the cure.
Tell us how he did it and what was the logic behind his theory?
Did the turn around happen pretty much from the start of treatment or did things only turn around in the last few weeks?
Do you need to continue with this treatment indefinitely?
 

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« Reply #19705 on: 26/09/2014 03:07:53 »
hi I'm new to this forum and like other poisers who discovered this site I too am very happy to find people with the same condition as I have. my symptoms include extreme fatigue, mental dysfunction( lost concentration and sense of reality), deppression, headache, irritability, and muscle weakness. the pain would last for 5 days with the first 2 days the most agonizing. i've been written up in my job for missing a lot of days in a month when this affliction strikes at me. im scared to drive my car and am always worried when im at the longest days of my abstinence. niacin helps me for my 1st day by saving 80% of my mental condition. the 2nd day i always have headaches. my doctor gave me vitamin d with calcium but it doesnt help. last week he gave me tramadol and cialis which i havent yet tested because i wanted to wait for my next ne. like a ticking bomb i would loose my job anytime and am desperate what to do. then again reading some of the pages of this inspiring site gave me another hope.
 

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« Reply #19706 on: 26/09/2014 06:06:25 »
Dear friends,

It has been ~4 years since I found this forum... I have POIS since I was 13 years old;
Now I am almost 36.

That syndrome hit me very hard over the years, the usual symptoms, brain fog, muscles pain, headaches, exhaustion, memory issues and many others... till it became chronically.

Over the years, I tried so many treatments, unfortunately - with very slight success.

Fortunately, I have found a doctor that treated me for the last 2 months and the results were unbelievable, my POIS is almost 100% gone.

Personally, I would like to connect any of you that is interested with that doctor that changed my life. I see it as a mission, as something that I must pay it forward since I know how much suffer and frustration are involved

If any of you is interested in details you are welcome to contact me in private,

Take the best care, Janiv

Your doctor asks 3000 euros for the full treatment Pois.
 

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« Reply #19707 on: 27/09/2014 10:02:57 »
Dear friends,

It has been ~4 years since I found this forum... I have POIS since I was 13 years old;
Now I am almost 36.

That syndrome hit me very hard over the years, the usual symptoms, brain fog, muscles pain, headaches, exhaustion, memory issues and many others... till it became chronically.

Over the years, I tried so many treatments, unfortunately - with very slight success.

Fortunately, I have found a doctor that treated me for the last 2 months and the results were unbelievable, my POIS is almost 100% gone.

Personally, I would like to connect any of you that is interested with that doctor that changed my life. I see it as a mission, as something that I must pay it forward since I know how much suffer and frustration are involved

If any of you is interested in details you are welcome to contact me in private,

Take the best care, Janiv


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« Reply #19708 on: 27/09/2014 14:56:33 »
hello everyone.
    has anyone tried resveratrol ? One member has very good results with resveratrol. i have not tried it. i am going to try it . tomorrow i may buy it. in the past in this forum some users reported success with blueberry juices, etc. blueberry juice contains resveratrol. i think it is worth to try resveratrol.
I am trying resveratrol now. 200mg / day. Its too early to report anything as I've only been on it less than a week, but so far this week has been pretty good for me, but then I have recently started a few other supps too like Mucuna Dopa and Sulbutiamine. Last year I took the herb Japanese Knotweed and my pois was  improved over that period, but I was still feeling pretty lousy. What is complicating things for me is that I have been diagnosed with Lyme disease. I was taking the Japanese Knotweed for this. it is very high in resveratrol. It sis supposed to be improve blood flow and be anti-microbial and anti-inflammatory. I am trialling resveratrol for the moment to see if I still get the same effect for less $.

I had reported in a past post that blue berries had helped to alleviate the impact of pois somewhat for me. They were no cure by any means but just helped with cognition + libidio bounce back + energy. For many years the effect seemed to have disappeared but when I switch to organic blueberries a few years back I noticed feeling better after eating them again, but not to the extent I did when I was younger. The brand of Japanese Knotweed tincture I used was from beneficialbotanicals, if you feel the resveratrol is helping a little and want to see if maybe JK might be better still. 


Ideally, combine a whole food multivitamin with blueberries AND resveratrol.
Martin Pall wrote quite a bit about the benefits of polyphenols such as quercetin, curcumin, resveratrol and pterostilbene towards treating fatigue diseases that he thought were caused by decreased Nitric Oxide and increased peroxynitrite. Given the importance of NO towards dilating blood vessels in orgasm, it's possible the 2 are related. I believe they are but I could never prove it.

I found this http://townsendletter.com/FebMarch2010/cureNO0210.html
very interesting when I read it early last year.

Pall believes chronic fatigue is one of a number of inflammatory illnesses caused by NO/ONOO imbalance producing dizziness, brain fog, fatigue, weakness etc.. I've always been a bit wary by the number of supplements he recommended and I think there's a missing link of mitochondrial dysfunction.
Still, his treatment can be summarised as multivitamin (make sure you have adequate vitamin D), antioxidants & polyphenols.

Good luck!
 

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« Reply #19709 on: 27/09/2014 18:04:34 »
In short, your doctor wants to help us, but for the money
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« Reply #19710 on: 27/09/2014 18:50:46 »
Skype name: mbzisrael
The doctor says that someone wants to let him add Skype

The doctor says to add it skayp.I he explained to the cause of this syndrome.
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« Reply #19711 on: 27/09/2014 20:23:27 »
Hey fellas
I had a new experience. Felt much lesser of POIS. Normally i ejaculate within 5-10 mins of sex( masturbation). Now this time I had ejaculated after half an hour. And wolla .. very less POIS. This time POIS didnt disturb much of my daily life.. very less brain fog, very low fatigue, and no flu like symptoms.

I think POIS can be a problem that is caused when body is unable to switch off from sex. When ejaculate quickly, POISer's body does not switch off sex like normal men and making one feel POIS symptoms. But when ejaculate taking longer time,POISer's body almost switch off from sex.

This is just a theory. It may not be the absolute truth behind POIS. Please share your views. Also if possible share your experinece if this works for you.

MrVat7
 

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« Reply #19712 on: 28/09/2014 08:27:09 »
It is an interesting idia.
 

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« Reply #19713 on: 30/09/2014 14:57:21 »
My pois is receding, now I feel the same after ejaculation except for poor erections for 10 to 24 hours after and like 3 hours of some extra difficulty concentrating. I do still have the general lack of motivation and to a degree some concentration issues independent of ejaculation, my memory has never been very good either for a long time now that I think about it, sometimes I feel I have a mini alzheimers. Also,  ejaculating at night gives me terrible insomnia and I feel somewhat energised after a couple of hours but this only happens at night. I can't ejaculate mlre than once a day without crashing. It is a bit frustrating that my neurotranssmiter issues are taking so long to recover from because my performance is diminished. Everyone that knows me in real life thinks it is an attitude issue, it is all in your head BS.Why cant they understand that I am not in control and not everything is my fault pisses me off.
 

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« Reply #19714 on: 01/10/2014 00:54:14 »
I learned a new trick, after months of doing kegels (rather inconsistenly Im ashamed to admit) I have learned to orgasm without ejaculation, its very hard though. You basically have to contract your pelvic floor muscles VERY HARD when you reach the point of no return and hold the contraction for a long time, 5 minutes approx., I used to let go quicker of the contraction at first and failed, it is great, no POIS, just hard as hell to achieve.
 

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« Reply #19715 on: 01/10/2014 21:26:33 »
I tried an anticholinergic,and it works for me.,i'll give more informations later.
PS : i tried "PRIFINIUM BROMIDE"
and i don't eat CHOLINE rich food anymore
 

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« Reply #19716 on: 02/10/2014 03:49:54 »
Hello everyone!

Here is what cures my POIS in 1-2 days:

I noticed that whenever I eat a few beef wraps with jalapeņo peppers (either fresh or pickled), my brain fog reduces more rapidly. It has worked for me every time.

I noticed this about last year that whenever I ate the Subway steak & cheese with "lots" (7-12 slices) of jalapeņo and banana peppers and some veggies on it, my POIS would go away in a day or two. Taking a nap after few hours helps a lot too. So I decided to see if it has to do anything with beef and jalapeņo, and I tested it with just beef and jalapeņo wraps. It has worked in the same way.

Jalapeņo seems to increase blood flow in brain... and beef has lots of... anyways, give it a try and let me know if it works for you too.

So far my ultimate remedy is: 3 wraps/meal & 3 meals/day & (1 or 2 naps/day) & do it for 2 days. (avoid sugar!)
 

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« Reply #19717 on: 03/10/2014 10:24:18 »
Donate 100 dollars to me someday,i am very ill and poor
 

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« Reply #19718 on: 03/10/2014 19:20:53 »
Hello everyone!

Here is what cures my POIS in 1-2 days:

I noticed that whenever I eat a few beef wraps with jalapeņo peppers (either fresh or pickled), my brain fog reduces more rapidly. It has worked for me every time.

I noticed this about last year that whenever I ate the Subway steak & cheese with "lots" (7-12 slices) of jalapeņo and banana peppers and some veggies on it, my POIS would go away in a day or two. Taking a nap after few hours helps a lot too. So I decided to see if it has to do anything with beef and jalapeņo, and I tested it with just beef and jalapeņo wraps. It has worked in the same way.

Jalapeņo seems to increase blood flow in brain... and beef has lots of... anyways, give it a try and let me know if it works for you too.

So far my ultimate remedy is: 3 wraps/meal & 3 meals/day & (1 or 2 naps/day) & do it for 2 days. (avoid sugar!)

See http://www.genesmart.com/pages/high_polyphenols_foods/161.php
 

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« Reply #19719 on: 04/10/2014 17:33:16 »
The million dollar question remains the same...
Why do we have such elevated prolactin levels after orgasm? Is it really an allergic reaction? Is it a faulty gene (which is BS, since we didn't have POIS the very beginning we started to ejaculate in our youth) or is it an epigenomic process that we could turn OFF? Is it psychological and the feeling of guilt that we are not aware of, but happens subconsciously? How many more years do we need to suffer and how many relationships, marriages and stable jobs have to be ruined?

 

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« Reply #19720 on: 06/10/2014 16:26:19 »
How do you think people, Professor Barry Komissaruk find the cause of this syndrome? I doubt that the psychologist can help us.

I'm afraid I don't know how to help you. I am just becoming familiar with the POIS problem. Research is required to understand what causes it. I am doing research on it, but I do not have any answers yet.

Barry R. Komisaruk, Ph.D.
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« Reply #19721 on: 06/10/2014 21:04:55 »
Kima, we have to believe! Nobody except Dr. Barry is trying to understand the cause of pois. I hope he can to find the cause and on the next step he will find treatment.
 

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« Reply #19722 on: 07/10/2014 08:42:17 »
Hi ..

I think that no one can find a cure for pois, but Dr. infected with the same disease
Because the problem of how to explain the symptoms to Dr. perfectly ..
An example of this, brain fog can not be understand by Dr. completely, but if he felt
 

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« Reply #19723 on: 07/10/2014 15:17:33 »
How do you think people, Professor Barry Komissaruk find the cause of this syndrome? I doubt that the psychologist can help us. I'm afraid I don't know how to help you. I am just becoming familiar with the POIS problem. Research is required to understand what causes it. I am doing research on it, but I do not have any answers yet. Barry R. Komisaruk, Ph.D.

Kima, I have been watching your fraudulent posts about Dr. Barry Komisaruk.
It is a criminal offense to publicly impersonate someone, and it is also a criminal offense to defame someone's reputation by making false, detrimental statements on his behalf.
I am letting you know that Dr. Komisaruk will be advised of your activities, should he wish to take action.  Further, I have just reported you to this forum's authorities.


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« Reply #19724 on: 08/10/2014 06:37:25 »
Hello everyone!

Here is what cures my POIS in 1-2 days:

I noticed that whenever I eat a few beef wraps with jalapeņo peppers (either fresh or pickled), my brain fog reduces more rapidly. It has worked for me every time.

I noticed this about last year that whenever I ate the Subway steak & cheese with "lots" (7-12 slices) of jalapeņo and banana peppers and some veggies on it, my POIS would go away in a day or two. Taking a nap after few hours helps a lot too. So I decided to see if it has to do anything with beef and jalapeņo, and I tested it with just beef and jalapeņo wraps. It has worked in the same way.

Jalapeņo seems to increase blood flow in brain... and beef has lots of... anyways, give it a try and let me know if it works for you too.

So far my ultimate remedy is: 3 wraps/meal & 3 meals/day & (1 or 2 naps/day) & do it for 2 days. (avoid sugar!)

Mer - I'd say its less the beef or the wraps and more to do with the jalapeņo peppers. Why don't you try out a bottle of Blair's Jersey Death (cayenne pepper sauce). Okay, that stuff is extreme, but maybe try some extra hot chilli pepper sauce. Supposedly cayenne which is probably not that different from jalapeņo pepper, reduces Substance P, a known inflammation agent. I thought it was also supposed to boost GH and some other immunity markers too and increase endorphins. There was a fairly well known CFS/chronic health doctor who recommended very hot cayenne pepper, and I remember reading a story of a guy who tried the cayenne pepper therapy (plus with one other supplement that I cant remember) who claimed to cure himself of CFS after being sick for quite a number of years.

I tried it for a while a number of years back in the morning then a cold shower to kick start me out of pois hangover and it helped with cognition and energy a bit but it was no sure shot pois cure for me. I used to mix 3 drops in a glass of water. It was tough going when you are dealing with stuff that's a friggin million scoville heat units when a regular supermarket pepper is like 300. Your mouth is burning but its gets the blood pumping and you jumping.  (you have to be careful with the super hot stuff) I ended up dropping it as my health went down hill a bunch of months afterwards but I was on other treatment from my CFS/lyme doctor so I am not saying it was the cayenne pepper.


Also I don't know what the policy here is on mentioning specific brand names, but want to mention another product that might help some people deal with energy depletion from pois. Its a pre workout supplement - Mesomorph Ver.2. Another one I like is Black Bombs.  I first came upon these when checking out gym supplements. They certainly help power me gym routine after work, but they can substitute for energy drinks such as red bull which some here might take to get through the afternoons on the first couple of pois days (much better imo)
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