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« Reply #19775 on: 01/01/2015 15:04:57 »
Please try this stack (choline, uridine, DHA \ EPA, vitamins B)
 

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« Reply #19776 on: 05/01/2015 14:11:20 »
Folks, I think I found a cure. My symptoms are pretty much gone, after only 3 days. And you don't have to do anything. In fact, that's the whole point:

Never eat after 2pm.

How does that help? Some hours after a meal, when the food is out of the stomach and out of the small intestine, the body starts a thing called newbielink:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3400812/ [nonactive]. MMC consists of waves of peristaltic movement throughout the stomach and intestines. It is much more vigorous than the regular peristalsis that moves food.  It causes the rumbling sound that the stomach makes when you haven't eaten in a while.

During MMC, the stomach and the intestine secrete acid and enzymes (even though there is no food), and the MMC flushes these all throughout the small intestine. The purpose of this is to clean up bacteria and leftover food. In other words, MMC is your body's mechanism for preventing/curing Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO). The MMC happens every 90 to 120 minutes and it only happens in a fasted state. According to some sources, you are considered in a fasted state much later after a meal than you might think. Some sources say 8 to 12 hours after the last meal.

In any case, if you have your last meal before 2pm, then, by the time you go to bed, you have a good chance of being in a fasted state. This means that the body can do 4 or 5 cycles of MMC during the night. Otherwise, if you have dinner at 8pm, MMC cannot start until the food has been processed and absorbed. And since digestion is slower during the night, MMC may not even happen at all during the night or maybe happen only once.

Wouldn't this type of eating cause hypoglicemia? Not at all, once you enter a fasted state, the liver provides glucose from its glycogen stores. According to some sources, liver glycogen lasts for up to 24 hours. You only need it over night (remember, the fast starts several hours after your last meal, when all the food has been broken down and absorbed).

So try having your last meal before 2pm. It will be difficult on the first day (may get headaches and weakness) but it gets better quickly. And then the afternoon/evening become very productive parts of the day. For more info you can check out newbielink:http://www.amazon.com/Daylight-Divine-Eating-Superior-Digestion/dp/0967528658 [nonactive] or newbielink:http://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Eating-Ultimate-Elixir-Youth/dp/0974243450 [nonactive] which both advocate not eating after about 2pm.

In terms of what to eat, when you do eat. Try foods that increase your metabolic rate: newbielink:http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/salt.shtml [nonactive], newbielink:http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/sugar-issues.shtml [nonactive] and saturated fats like butter, ghee and newbielink:http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/coconut-oil.shtml [nonactive]. Yes, I know, those are considered the bad guys but they're really not.
 

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« Reply #19777 on: 06/01/2015 14:23:04 »
I believe that I suffer from this illness. After orgasm I experience the following symptoms for 1-4 days: foggy head, difficulty concentrating, lack of motivation, extreme fatigue, negative thoughts, irritability, social isolation, tongue tied, depersonalization, low self esteem, feelings of worthlessness, social anxiety, weak muscles, slow thinking, inability to make decisions. I am 32 and I first started experiencing this about 5 years ago. It's possible that I have experienced it for longer but had not made the connection, I am not sure. However definitely when I was younger I did not experience this.

It seems that the duration of the effects relates to the intensity of the orgasm and how many orgasms I have, and my overall level of fitness at the time. However, I am always "off" for at least a minimum of 12 hours or so. I find that masturbation without orgasm also results in some but not all of the same effects, mostly I still feel the social anxiety / isolation and depersonalization, but not so much the lack of energy.

I have been struggling for years with a porn addiction and I believed this was the source of my problem. However now I am finding even after long periods without porn, sex with a person whom I like and would like to pursue a relationship, I still get these effects and they are debilitating to my ability to build this relationship.

I am feeling at a loss and like I will never have a partner because of this. I also believe it may eventually cause me major problems in my job.

For me the socialization effects are by far the worst part. Being around others and feeling completely unable to connect with them is a private hell. The only thing that keeps me sane is knowing that it will pass eventually and I will feel normal again.

The longest I went without orgasm was 2 months. It was an amazing time, I built some core friendships and got a promotion during this period. Usually I can only last a week or two so I feel like I am in a perpetual cycle of recovery and relapse.

I am feeling despondent right now and at a loss. What is the point of all this effort put into life, into working to be successful etc., if there is no hope of sharing it with anyone? How could I expect to have a partner who is okay with not having sex, and would I even want that for myself? Can I handle living in a relationship with regular sex and feeling these symptoms a good percentage of the time? It feels unbearable and I don't believe such a relationship could last, let alone all the other effects.

I'm looking for advice on how to proceed. Should I see a doctor? What should I ask them? Should I have my hormone/mineral levels checked? Is there a FAQ for this? Has anyone successfully recovered from this?

Thanks!
« Last Edit: 06/01/2015 14:32:17 by Liberte »
 

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« Reply #19778 on: 08/01/2015 13:33:06 »
Liberte

Wow... it could've been me who wrote your post. It all sounds so familiar, I experience the same painful consequences after an orgasm: social withdrawal, anxiety, low self esteem, depression, you name it.
So far the two solutions that have helped me the most are obviously avoiding orgasms as much as possible but with a porn addiction history as well that has not been an easy thing to do. Second solution that works sometimes very good and sometimes not is Niacine. A lot has been written about this supplement on this forum already, you might want to look it up. Sometimes I have almost close to zero negative effects after an orgasm, and sometimes it doesn't work at all. But hey, every little thing that can help is welcome.
 

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« Reply #19779 on: 09/01/2015 00:52:32 »
Hi Tired of this, thanks for the response! I have been reading about niacin, and have ordered some online to try (could not find the flushing type in town).

I'm also trying to register for the forum on poiscenter.com but it is currently closed for registration. If anyone reading this happens to know an admin on that site, could you ask them about opening up registration? I am eager to take part in the discussions there.

Liberte
 

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« Reply #19780 on: 09/01/2015 02:08:50 »
Is anyone familiar with the drug Revatio (sildenafil)?  It's alot cheaper than Levitra, Cialis, etc...  I'm not sure it's marketed as an ED drug, but it's in the same class.   Thoughts? 
 

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« Reply #19781 on: 09/01/2015 02:12:17 »
Liberte:

Exact same thing as you..  I've been orgasm free for about 10 days now and I do notice myself feeling better.  But what a sucky way to live.  I do take an anti-depressant, and it helps in general, but not sure if it helps with POIS.  Do you get a tightness in your abdomen after orgasm?


I believe that I suffer from this illness. After orgasm I experience the following symptoms for 1-4 days: foggy head, difficulty concentrating, lack of motivation, extreme fatigue, negative thoughts, irritability, social isolation, tongue tied, depersonalization, low self esteem, feelings of worthlessness, social anxiety, weak muscles, slow thinking, inability to make decisions. I am 32 and I first started experiencing this about 5 years ago. It's possible that I have experienced it for longer but had not made the connection, I am not sure. However definitely when I was younger I did not experience this.

It seems that the duration of the effects relates to the intensity of the orgasm and how many orgasms I have, and my overall level of fitness at the time. However, I am always "off" for at least a minimum of 12 hours or so. I find that masturbation without orgasm also results in some but not all of the same effects, mostly I still feel the social anxiety / isolation and depersonalization, but not so much the lack of energy.

I have been struggling for years with a porn addiction and I believed this was the source of my problem. However now I am finding even after long periods without porn, sex with a person whom I like and would like to pursue a relationship, I still get these effects and they are debilitating to my ability to build this relationship.

I am feeling at a loss and like I will never have a partner because of this. I also believe it may eventually cause me major problems in my job.

For me the socialization effects are by far the worst part. Being around others and feeling completely unable to connect with them is a private hell. The only thing that keeps me sane is knowing that it will pass eventually and I will feel normal again.

The longest I went without orgasm was 2 months. It was an amazing time, I built some core friendships and got a promotion during this period. Usually I can only last a week or two so I feel like I am in a perpetual cycle of recovery and relapse.

I am feeling despondent right now and at a loss. What is the point of all this effort put into life, into working to be successful etc., if there is no hope of sharing it with anyone? How could I expect to have a partner who is okay with not having sex, and would I even want that for myself? Can I handle living in a relationship with regular sex and feeling these symptoms a good percentage of the time? It feels unbearable and I don't believe such a relationship could last, let alone all the other effects.

I'm looking for advice on how to proceed. Should I see a doctor? What should I ask them? Should I have my hormone/mineral levels checked? Is there a FAQ for this? Has anyone successfully recovered from this?

Thanks!
 

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« Reply #19782 on: 09/01/2015 08:55:52 »
First of all my apology to the forum for not posting the 15 minute exercise, I have used. The intention behind this is I thought, whether can I able to add any add-ons to that exercise and I tried many and finally today comes to a conclusion that 15 minute of yoga mentioned in earlier version to be posed and I am posting the. The same is below as follows.
a)   For the first five minutes – pls do the body lossening exercises i.e. to legs, shoulders, hands, neck, - search in google you find many………
b)   For next five minutes – Pls do the dynamic warmup exercises.
The above two steps are the preppatroy steps for the yoga posute.
c)   Now pls do the yoga posture Ardha Matsyendrasana (Only Three rounds – Pls not do more than this, as you are not practicing under the trainer). It may take five minutes.  Pls do not this exercise in full stomach. Your stomach should be empty. Otherwise there may be some other problems. Suggested timings is morning and in the evening before food.  Also, person with knee injury, spinal cord problems should not perform this exercise as it would severe the problem.
Compare the POIS at the beginning of this exercise and now. If you find decrease in the POIS symptoms, my POIS is equal to your POIS and God has finally helped us….We won. 
Update on me:
a)   In my last post, I mentioned that presently my POIS attached reduced to 30% as I am practicing on hour yoga exercise daily. Now, I find even slight reduction can say 25% attack and this attack is tolerable and this 15 minutes.
b)   You may know, from last three years, I tried so many experiments and in yoga I tried one. That is to have Sex after that one hour exercise ( I compare taking of Nicain and have sex and accordingly I tried this).  So, out of past 15 days, 6 times I had Sex & big O immediately after the one hour yoga exercise and the results are amazing. After big O, now there is no POIS, it is 0%, further I am experiencing opposite to POIS i.e. relaxation of mind and peace can say, it is POST ORGASMIC HAPPINESS SYNDROME (not a syndrome). Yes, if I do, O after one hour exercise, I am experimenting, full of joy, happiness, its like heaven to me…. But, if I had O not after exercise, then again that 25% POIS symptoms. My yoga thereapist told this 25% would come to 0% in just two months.
Logic behind my solution:
c)   As explained earlier, it was the problem in nervous system. Now because of yoga, my nervous system is strengthening. So, presently, I am having three solutions.
a)   15 minutes exercise to recover from POIS attack if I had O in the night
b)   One hour yoga to reduce the attack from 25% to 0% in next few months
c)   Had O immediately after yoga (i.e. like niacin experiment) to enjoy 0% POIS & especially happiness.
Way forward:
a)   At presently, I shared only the macro level of the solution which I got. If any one of you find reduction is POIS symtoms, and if this theory is apply to all, then I am ready to share full one hour yoga exercise (containing many i.e. loosening exercise, dynamic exercise, pranayama, various types of breathing, yoga posture, relaxation technique). Waiting for your reply.
 
 
 

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« Reply #19783 on: 10/01/2015 22:17:19 »
Folks, I think I found a cure. My symptoms are pretty much gone, after only 3 days. And you don't have to do anything. In fact, that's the whole point:

Never eat after 2pm.

How does that help? Some hours after a meal, when the food is out of the stomach and out of the small intestine, the body starts a thing called newbielink:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3400812/ [nonactive]. MMC consists of waves of peristaltic movement throughout the stomach and intestines. It is much more vigorous than the regular peristalsis that moves food.  It causes the rumbling sound that the stomach makes when you haven't eaten in a while.

During MMC, the stomach and the intestine secrete acid and enzymes (even though there is no food), and the MMC flushes these all throughout the small intestine. The purpose of this is to clean up bacteria and leftover food. In other words, MMC is your body's mechanism for preventing/curing Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO). The MMC happens every 90 to 120 minutes and it only happens in a fasted state. According to some sources, you are considered in a fasted state much later after a meal than you might think. Some sources say 8 to 12 hours after the last meal.

In any case, if you have your last meal before 2pm, then, by the time you go to bed, you have a good chance of being in a fasted state. This means that the body can do 4 or 5 cycles of MMC during the night. Otherwise, if you have dinner at 8pm, MMC cannot start until the food has been processed and absorbed. And since digestion is slower during the night, MMC may not even happen at all during the night or maybe happen only once.

Wouldn't this type of eating cause hypoglicemia? Not at all, once you enter a fasted state, the liver provides glucose from its glycogen stores. According to some sources, liver glycogen lasts for up to 24 hours. You only need it over night (remember, the fast starts several hours after your last meal, when all the food has been broken down and absorbed).

So try having your last meal before 2pm. It will be difficult on the first day (may get headaches and weakness) but it gets better quickly. And then the afternoon/evening become very productive parts of the day. For more info you can check out newbielink:http://www.amazon.com/Daylight-Divine-Eating-Superior-Digestion/dp/0967528658 [nonactive] or newbielink:http://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Eating-Ultimate-Elixir-Youth/dp/0974243450 [nonactive] which both advocate not eating after about 2pm.

In terms of what to eat, when you do eat. Try foods that increase your metabolic rate: newbielink:http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/salt.shtml [nonactive], newbielink:http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/sugar-issues.shtml [nonactive] and saturated fats like butter, ghee and newbielink:http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/coconut-oil.shtml [nonactive]. Yes, I know, those are considered the bad guys but they're really not.

That's a very interesting solution, goosewort. I will have to try this next time I'm in POIS. Do you think exercise during the fasting time would help speed up my metabolic rate?
 

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« Reply #19784 on: 11/01/2015 17:39:26 »
I have POIS and also a condition called Empty Sella Syndrome, which means that the pituitary gland is pressed flat in its cavity by Cranial Fluid that builds pressure due to an "incompetent diaphragm". This was revealed by a CT scan and I wonder if the compromised pituitary gland plays a role in POIS ? Has anyone else done a CT scan and found any irregularity with the pituitary gland ?
My headache gets much worse a day after orgasm or even hot sex (along with the other usual POIS symptoms).
 

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« Reply #19785 on: 11/01/2015 18:35:18 »
I should also add that my POIS episodes feel like a dramatic drop in dopamine (sharp loss of desire and joy in general and that I have compensated with prescription codeine, which is risky business since it can lead to addiction ... never to be taken for more than 3 days in a row but that tends to be my POIS episode duration).
 

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« Reply #19786 on: 17/01/2015 19:14:47 »
First of all my apology to the forum for not posting the 15 minute exercise, I have used. The intention behind this is I thought, whether can I able to add any add-ons to that exercise and I tried many and finally today comes to a conclusion that 15 minute of yoga mentioned in earlier version to be posed and I am posting the. The same is below as follows.
a)   For the first five minutes – pls do the body lossening exercises i.e. to legs, shoulders, hands, neck, - search in google you find many………
b)   For next five minutes – Pls do the dynamic warmup exercises.
The above two steps are the preppatroy steps for the yoga posute.
c)   Now pls do the yoga posture Ardha Matsyendrasana (Only Three rounds – Pls not do more than this, as you are not practicing under the trainer). It may take five minutes.  Pls do not this exercise in full stomach. Your stomach should be empty. Otherwise there may be some other problems. Suggested timings is morning and in the evening before food.  Also, person with knee injury, spinal cord problems should not perform this exercise as it would severe the problem.
Compare the POIS at the beginning of this exercise and now. If you find decrease in the POIS symptoms, my POIS is equal to your POIS and God has finally helped us….We won. 
Update on me:
a)   In my last post, I mentioned that presently my POIS attached reduced to 30% as I am practicing on hour yoga exercise daily. Now, I find even slight reduction can say 25% attack and this attack is tolerable and this 15 minutes.
b)   You may know, from last three years, I tried so many experiments and in yoga I tried one. That is to have Sex after that one hour exercise ( I compare taking of Nicain and have sex and accordingly I tried this).  So, out of past 15 days, 6 times I had Sex & big O immediately after the one hour yoga exercise and the results are amazing. After big O, now there is no POIS, it is 0%, further I am experiencing opposite to POIS i.e. relaxation of mind and peace can say, it is POST ORGASMIC HAPPINESS SYNDROME (not a syndrome). Yes, if I do, O after one hour exercise, I am experimenting, full of joy, happiness, its like heaven to me…. But, if I had O not after exercise, then again that 25% POIS symptoms. My yoga thereapist told this 25% would come to 0% in just two months.
Logic behind my solution:
c)   As explained earlier, it was the problem in nervous system. Now because of yoga, my nervous system is strengthening. So, presently, I am having three solutions.
a)   15 minutes exercise to recover from POIS attack if I had O in the night
b)   One hour yoga to reduce the attack from 25% to 0% in next few months
c)   Had O immediately after yoga (i.e. like niacin experiment) to enjoy 0% POIS & especially happiness.
Way forward:
a)   At presently, I shared only the macro level of the solution which I got. If any one of you find reduction is POIS symtoms, and if this theory is apply to all, then I am ready to share full one hour yoga exercise (containing many i.e. loosening exercise, dynamic exercise, pranayama, various types of breathing, yoga posture, relaxation technique). Waiting for your reply.
 
 

Hi nathan123. thanks for sharing the 15 minute yoga posture. i'm beginning to apply this Ardha Matsyendrasana. though I felt awkward doing this but by the 3rd day i begin to appreciate this exercise. i felt something good inside me. it makes me relax. i think yoga is a good form of exercise since it's not impact exercise. it is soft and gentle to the body. by now im in my first day after O. i'll try to feel the difference by doing this 15 minute exercise but i know it will take a month before i feel the big difference. the way you write your post about your new found cure there is a lot of enthusiasm and that's enough for me to believe. i prefer natural cures or remedies over taking prescription drugs. i'll update you with my developments. thanks a lot. God bless you more. :)
 

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« Reply #19787 on: 17/01/2015 21:32:23 »
Update: It seems that my symptoms were caused by poisoning! I have been poisoning myself regularly by eating raw honey. For some reason, raw honey gives me terrible neurological symptoms, which are compounded by orgasm. Lack of coordination, brain fog, social anxiety, depression. Raw honey also caused hot flushes all over the body and involuntary orgasms during the night. I found this after a strict elimination diet when I noticed that adding a bit of honey to my regular meals caused hell on earth. I still don't eat after 2 pm which I find has many health benefits and was the propeller of going on an elimination diet and finding the offending ingredient.

So my advice to everyone here is to go on a strict diet (e.g. only fruit, morning and lunch, skip dinner) and pay attention to how you feel after introducing every other ingredient.
 

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« Reply #19788 on: 18/01/2015 10:46:44 »
Finally begin medical research January 27. Komissaruk professor told me.
 

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« Reply #19789 on: 21/01/2015 07:20:12 »
Hi,

I have been facing the POIS symptoms for past 7 years or so. I am 31 years old and have been reading this naked scientists forum and POIScenter forums from past 2 months and they have been very helpful to me. I was trying niacin after an O (NE), but it made my symptoms worse (I have almost all the POIS symptoms listed on these forums and probably a few additional  :( ). I know I should use it before 'O', I will try that next time . I tried claritin and advil after an O, they had very good effect on me, my POIS was about 75% reduced.  only tried it once, i will see if the effect continues. But i was feeling good after many years after an 'O'. My symptoms will usually last for 2 to 3 weeks. As time is passing more symptoms are arising and I really hope that professor Komissaruk will find an answer for this beast.
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« Reply #19790 on: 22/01/2015 02:59:47 »
I have POIS and also a condition called Empty Sella Syndrome, which means that the pituitary gland is pressed flat in its cavity by Cranial Fluid that builds pressure due to an "incompetent diaphragm". This was revealed by a CT scan and I wonder if the compromised pituitary gland plays a role in POIS ? Has anyone else done a CT scan and found any irregularity with the pituitary gland ?
My headache gets much worse a day after orgasm or even hot sex (along with the other usual POIS symptoms).

This is my first post here, but I have read much of this thread carefully.   Yes, many others, including myself, have pituitary abnormalities.  The best scan to detect these is a contrast enhanced dedicated pituitary MRI. I have a pituitary microadenoma.  I have read about other POIS sufferers with pituitary adenomas and partially empty sellas.  My microadenoma was not picked up on a standard MRI brain scan, only a contrast enhanced scan, with an emphasis on the pituitary. 

It seems everyone with POIS who has the contrast enhanced MRI pituitary scan discovers an abnormality.  Since about 20% of the population has a pituitary abnormality of some kind, these results, in isolation, are not seen as significant and are dismissed.  However, if 5 POIS sufferers are scanned, and each has a pituitary abnormality (none does not), then this result is highly statistically significant, when considered as a group.  This result is suggested by postings on this and other forums.

I really hope the pituitary is investigated, including contrast pituitary MRIs, in Dr. Komisaruk's upcoming research study, and other future research on POIS.
« Last Edit: 22/01/2015 03:07:21 by dolphinenergy »
 

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« Reply #19791 on: 24/01/2015 12:28:33 »
Hello,

I am a 32-year old girl from Ukraine, living in Germany. I have the symptoms described throughout this thread for about 10 years, although I understand you are focusing on men here. Until very recently I was not aware that other people also suffer from this and there is actually a name for it.

Years ago I underwent some tests and analysis related to my symptoms in Ukraine, but nothing helpful was found.

I was wondering if anybody knows about research or doctors focusing on women suffering from POIS?

Specifically I also wanted to ask if there is any information available on whether POIS is likely to be inherited? My husband and I are planning to have children and this causes great concern to me.

Many thanks to everybody who has contributed to this thread so far and provided valuable information. I would appreciate any advice concerning my situation.

Tatyana
 

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« Reply #19792 on: 24/01/2015 19:19:09 »
Hello,

I am a 32-year old girl from Ukraine, living in Germany. I have the symptoms described throughout this thread for about 10 years, although I understand you are focusing on men here. Until very recently I was not aware that other people also suffer from this and there is actually a name for it.

Years ago I underwent some tests and analysis related to my symptoms in Ukraine, but nothing helpful was found.

I was wondering if anybody knows about research or doctors focusing on women suffering from POIS?

Specifically I also wanted to ask if there is any information available on whether POIS is likely to be inherited? My husband and I are planning to have children and this causes great concern to me.

Many thanks to everybody who has contributed to this thread so far and provided valuable information. I would appreciate any advice concerning my situation.

Tatyana


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« Reply #19793 on: 25/01/2015 01:05:31 »
Dear Folks,

First of all it is great this forum exists and good to see how people tries to help each other, sharing their experiences.

The experiences I have are almost 7 years old now, as my POAS started around in 2007. Since then the sickness became worse so I tried lot of things, some of the treatments were the same like you had. Now, I'll summarize all I know about it, maybe it will help for some of you.

Symptoms after ejaculation (doesn't matter the form):
- breathing difficulties
- pale skin
- change of the heart rythm
- dizziness
- extreme tiredness, especially the next 2 days
- feeling cold
- feeling weak
- fearing from death
- whispering or avoiding the speaking
- loss of hair
- back pain, especially middle back and lower
- kidney pain
- stitch in the side
- pain under the nipples
- changing colour of the urine
- long sleeping, but still fatigue

If more than 3 of these symptoms you feel after sex or masturbation, probably you suffer a kind of POAS.

The symptoms will be stronger and longer so it is not recommended to wait with the treatment for long time. First, I recovered in 1 day, later I needed 3-4 days.

Western treatment
You can go with this problem to GP or urology. Probably they will make a blood test and in case of urology, an ultrasound/ ultrasonic test. If they not find any major, like tumor or blood cell disease, they will send you home to have rest, or they make hormon test. In my case, testosteron level was low, so I got hormon theraphy. But for me it didn't help ( maybe in other cases, it helps). Then they told they cannot do anything with it and sent me to alternative therapist.

Eastern treatment
 I went to acupuncture doctor who told me my chi level is low and my kidney function has been damaged and suffering underperformance. It means this causing many symptoms I already wrote above. He started to treat me which made faster the recivery process, but it didn't help to stop the disease, so I had to visit him regularly. He also advised to take the following stuff often:
- licium (goji berry)
- cranberry
- drink lot of liquid, especially hot (tea, soup)
- ginzeng
- ginger

Actually, all of these stuff helped me a lot, and made quicker the recovery process.
However the disease was still with me. Since then, I found many things which were helpful. One of them was the nail bed. It may sounds strange, but I can confirm, it really helps to energetize you and makes you sleep better. You can find them as acupressure matrasses too. This only helps if you use regularly. Sometimes it stopped all the symptoms, but after I got up, they came back, until I "recovered".

I would add couple of things, which were helpful to reduce the strength of POAS:
- avoid sugar and sweets
- avoid citrus, like lime, lemon or orange and such juices, they all cools you
- avoid alcohol
- avoid spicy food
- avoid being awaken during night time
- taking food and drinks hot, so you body will not use energy to heat them up
- put on enough clothes, keep your legs and waist all time warm
- have hot shower, but not stay long time in hot water
- do physical activity, which not makes you too tired - for me the thai-chi and chi-kung were helpful, but yoga is great too or something which energetize you
- try not ejaculate in sex (I know it is not easy)
- eat vegetables which help your kidney staying healthy (like beans, cinamon, etc).
- learn some acupuncture point you can press if your chi is low - the first kidney point, which is at the middle of sole of the feet you could press it by your finger.

Most of the POAS symptoms connected to kidney problems and the weakness of nerves and kidney. You can strengthen them and it may helps you to recover better and faster. But - as I mentioned - it will not stop completely the POAS. If I manage to find the root of this sickness, I will add here for sure.

Take care guys and keep warm your waist all the time
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19794 on: 27/01/2015 22:35:16 »
Hello,

I am a 32-year old girl from Ukraine, living in Germany. I have the symptoms described throughout this thread for about 10 years, although I understand you are focusing on men here. Until very recently I was not aware that other people also suffer from this and there is actually a name for it.

Years ago I underwent some tests and analysis related to my symptoms in Ukraine, but nothing helpful was found.

I was wondering if anybody knows about research or doctors focusing on women suffering from POIS?

Specifically I also wanted to ask if there is any information available on whether POIS is likely to be inherited? My husband and I are planning to have children and this causes great concern to me.

Many thanks to everybody who has contributed to this thread so far and provided valuable information. I would appreciate any advice concerning my situation.

Tatyana

Hi Tatyana. I see you seem to have acquired POIS around age 22. A bit later than puberty. Can you remember anything that happened to your life around that time that you suspect may have triggered it?
Does it make any difference for you if its sex or masturbation? I assume it doesn't. For many here it is worse with the latter. I thought there have been a few stories of women being allergic to their husbands semen.
How many days does it take for you to recover?
Has it got worse or better for you over the decade?

From the posts I have read on and off over the last 3 years, I have not seen any mention of a hereditary factor. I suspect many guys here are embarrassed by the condition and have keep quiet about it with their friends let alone discussed the condition (which did not have a name until a few yrs ago) with their parents. Mine thought I ended up with chronic fatigue syndrome (which I probably did at one stage) but early on they thought I was just lazy. Personally I suspect there is a hereditary element,,,not that any offspring will necessarily acquire it for sure, but just that there is a genetic weakness in the dna that makes us susceptible. (just my theory)
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« Reply #19795 on: 29/01/2015 00:57:58 »
Hi,
A guy named Scott sent me a PM through an email, and I have no idea how to respond to it (I got an error message back when I replied to the email address). So I figured I'd post the response here in hopes that he sees it.
Regards,
Dan

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Hi Scott,
Thanks for getting in touch! It's so cool to get an email from a message board I rarely visit anymore. My approach to POIS has changed so many times over the years, and even within the past couple months, it has changed drastically.

The way I see POIS now is this: It is not an affliction caused by orgasm. It is depression, anxiety, lethargy, etc., from deeper issues... and orgasm is just a trigger. More specifically, sexual abstinence allows a build-up of energy--hormones, neurotransmitters, what have you--that help with coping with these issues; abstinence provides a surplus of energy with which we use to cope, and perhaps feed into egoic structures that help us feel safe and secure. And then, when we release this energy, these structures fall apart, and we are left with our emotional pain and fear again.

Therefore, I have resolved to be sexually active (within reason), and deal with my issues at the base level. Abstinence was a very effective band-aid for me until I gave in to sexual activity.

Anyway, I use this maca: http://www.amazon.com/HealthWorks-Wild-Organic-Peruvian-Wildcrafted-Superfood/dp/B0015P54R8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422403755&sr=8-1&keywords=maca+powder

which is a HUGE improvement from the maca I was using previously. They were both raw maca flour, but for some reason this one is so much better. Richer taste, texture, and effects. The previous one just made me horny. This one makes me feel physically stronger, among other positive mental effects. I find that, if I take it liberally, it reduces my recovery time from about 1-2 months to 3-7 days.

Chuchuhuasi is interesting--some people don't feel anything from it. And most people don't know about it.

Syrian rue is quite psychoactive. It is quite relaxing, relaxes the ego and the thinking mind and allows for a kind of trance if you take enough. It reduces cravings for unnecessary foods, and ... yeah, it actually has a lot of positive benefits. I use it for the aforementioned reasons as well as reducing inflammatory arthritis pain and inflammation. It's even been shown to induce bone cell and cartilage growth, and I swear, it's having that effect on me, too. As for addressing POIS symptoms, I find it just allows me to be more grounded and in-touch with my emotions.

There's no mistake, syrian rue is a powerful psychoactive and therapeutic tool if used with intention. Some people combine it with other plants to make an Ayahuasca analog. If you haven't heard of that, I recommend looking it up.

The bottom line is, I have found it much more worthwhile to seek the reasons for which I'm experiencing depression, anxiety, etc., and resolve them, rather than seek to cover up symptoms and chalk POIS up to an unlucky roll of the biological dice.

Hope this helped,
Dan / RS
 

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« Reply #19796 on: 12/02/2015 09:13:56 »
Quote
Hi Tatyana. I see you seem to have acquired POIS around age 22. A bit later than puberty. Can you remember anything that happened to your life around that time that you suspect may have triggered it?
Does it make any difference for you if its sex or masturbation? I assume it doesn't. For many here it is worse with the latter. I thought there have been a few stories of women being allergic to their husbands semen.
How many days does it take for you to recover?
Has it got worse or better for you over the decade?

From the posts I have read on and off over the last 3 years, I have not seen any mention of a hereditary factor. I suspect many guys here are embarrassed by the condition and have keep quiet about it with their friends let alone discussed the condition (which did not have a name until a few yrs ago) with their parents. Mine thought I ended up with chronic fatigue syndrome (which I probably did at one stage) but early on they thought I was just lazy. Personally I suspect there is a hereditary element,,,not that any offspring will necessarily acquire it for sure, but just that there is a genetic weakness in the dna that makes us susceptible. (just my theory)


Dear acronym,

thank you very much for your reply, which I really appreciate!

My assumption is, that my problems started because I was too stressed back then (I graduated from the University and after that I was looking for the job).

I try to think positive and hope for the best regarding my future children. Thank you for sharing with me your ideas on that topic, this helped me a lot.

Best regards,
Tatyana

 



 

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« Reply #19797 on: 14/02/2015 14:16:01 »
Does this get the record for the greatest number of posts on one topic?
If so it must have hit the sweet spot!  ;)
 

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Yeah this is great. Nearly 4million views. I live in hope for some sort of treatment soon. :D :)
 

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« Reply #19799 on: 23/02/2015 15:56:32 »
Hi there,

I don't know if anyone is using this forum anymore but I hope they are.
I am a researcher who happens to have pois and I'm incredibly frustrated and scared by the chronic immune issue/extreme fatigue/cognitive issues (not being able to find the right word, short-term and long-term memory issues, facial recognition issues)/social issues and weird reactions to anxiety I've never had before/raynauds syndrome, skin reactions etc. I've experienced...I have found something that has helped me regain my cognition. Abstinence and The Wahls Protocol. The cornerstone of this approach is coconut oil, around 5tbsp/day. It will give your brain cells enough energy to do their daily tasks and repair the damage that has been done. Hugely improved energy. When I follow the diet religiously + coconut oil - my memory and cognition improves significantly. Still don't know how to prevent the immune reaction but it's giving me my life back.

Good luck everyone
 

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