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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #19975 on: 01/01/2016 16:39:19 »
Can you give detail on this? How might one feel while taking the ALA if it is chelating mercury?

It can be anything actually. In general look for subtle changes in how you feel. Most common are:

little euphoria, brain fog, more/less energy, tiredness, better/worse sleep, rashes, gastrointestinal problems etc.

Some may show up in the later rounds

Personally I was close to resign from chelation in the beginning cause the changes were very subtle. I'm glad I didn't. I just had the regular blood test done and I have the best results since 3 years. It matches the way I feel. It gives me more motivation to chelate regularly in 2016.

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« Reply #19976 on: 01/01/2016 18:03:04 »

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« Reply #19977 on: 01/01/2016 20:23:15 »
Hello people

I have this problem for years now and it is ruining my life. I went to many kind of doctors but none of them could help me. I have tried many medicines but it didn't help. The problem is sexuality. Whenever I get an orgasm my brain becomes chaotic. I get brain fog, depression, anxiety and other mental problems. The brain fog is the worst part of it: I can't concentrate, focus, think clear and my short term memory becomes bad. This lasts for a couple of days. Then when it's good again I get another orgasm and there we go again: brain fog, depression, anxiety, ... . This is pure madness. And I'm not even talking about masturbation, I'm talking about 1 orgasm. Does anyone know how you can cure this? I have tried almost anything and this is driving me insane.
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« Reply #19978 on: 02/01/2016 09:52:14 »
FROM Ahmed Maher ON FACEBOOK:
"Hello Guys . good evening . whoever suffering from depression i would like to tell him the cure for depression "only depression '' is by running exercises or aerobics it is the best antidepressant for pois . i walked and ran 6 kilos i have no depression for 2 days since then. but there is sideffect of exercise : the racing mind increase and tennitus also increase . u might get headache after this type of exercise so u might try central acting antihistamine and paracetamol . gaba or antianxiety meds after this type of exercise it helped me a lot to decrease depression symptoms so go ahead with exercise . i felt like there is detoxification happening in my body after running
 there is a hope 😊"

Exercise does help a lot. Especially running. Although when your in POIS its hard to get motivated to do it.

Anyway everyone please join the Facebook group. Its simply called: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome. The more people join the better. Its a closed group so any posts you put up will only be seen by the group.

All the best for new year. Lets hope this year we get a step closer to some sort of effective treatment/cure.
 

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« Reply #19979 on: 04/01/2016 15:00:25 »
Hello people

I have this problem for years now and it is ruining my life. I went to many kind of doctors but none of them could help me. I have tried many medicines but it didn't help. The problem is sexuality. Whenever I get an orgasm my brain becomes chaotic. I get brain fog, depression, anxiety and other mental problems. The brain fog is the worst part of it: I can't concentrate, focus, think clear and my short term memory becomes bad. This lasts for a couple of days. Then when it's good again I get another orgasm and there we go again: brain fog, depression, anxiety, ... . This is pure madness. And I'm not even talking about masturbation, I'm talking about 1 orgasm. Does anyone know how you can cure this? I have tried almost anything and this is driving me insane.




Hi dcdx95

Try to orgasm just before sleeping at night,never masturbate,'' masturbation is the only reason of pois"then most of pois symptoms start and end when you are sleeping,
 

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« Reply #19980 on: 25/01/2016 03:59:44 »
My symptom improvement from removing wheat from my diet remains true. Due to the shift in diet I developed a flatulence problem, which I was able to correct by eating wheat once again, at the cost of my symptoms returning to their previous intensity. I then determined that if I cut out dairy, meat, and eggs while cutting out wheat I was able to eliminate the flatulence while maintaining the symptom improvement. I've been eating a lot of rice, beans, potatoes, and oatmeal.

My hope is that eventually my digestive system may heal enough to allow me to eat animal products again without the embarrassing flatulence. As it stands now I seem to be able to eat them about once a week without it being a problem. I've also purchased activated charcoal and peppermint leaf capsules, which may serve as temporary fixes for when my will is weak.
 

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« Reply #19981 on: 11/02/2016 02:50:33 »
Hello everyone
     I am very happy to tell you guys how well eggs are helping me against POIS. I started eating eggs after reading Gcrisp post in the naked scientists forum. Gcrisp got POIS in his 40s or 50s after he was put on statin drugs for cholesterol control. Later Gcrisp realised that the cause was the statins, he then stopped the statins and started to eat eggs daily for POIS. He claims that he got cured of POIS eventually.
     But i am in my 20s and dont take statins.But  i started eating eggs for POIS. I ate 2 eggs daily. My POIS was of a type where my mind never clears , everyday i had brain fog. Only after starting the eggs i realised my POIS duration lasts for 5 or 6 days. It will 5 days if stimulation was for more than half an hour, and the duration was 6 days if stimulation was very less. After the 5th or 6th day my brain fog cleared. it was the first time in my life, after my childhood, i was able to think clearly, but brain fog used to set in after mild stimulation.
     So i ate 2 eggs daily. By 5th month of starting eggs, i had a strange experience. On a normal day without POIS, i woke up to the brain fog of POIS, i was so desperate and thought that eggs are failing, this brain fog lasted for 6 days. then on the 7th day the brain fog cleared. In that week i realised that my POIS duration has reduced from 5 or 6 days (depending upon stimulation) to 4 or 5 days (depending upon stimulation). I was so happy, at last something has started to work for me.
     Then by 9 months and 10 days of eating eggs my pois duration reduced from 4 or 5 days to 3 or 4 days. Before the POIS duration reduced i did experience brain fog for 6 days which was not due to POIS.
     Today after 12 months and 29 days my POIS duration reduced from 3 or 4 days to 2 or 3 days.Before the POIS duration reduced i did experience brain fog for 6 days which was not due to POIS.
     I am so happy.
     I once tried increasing the no. of eggs to three a day so that POIS duration reduction may be hastened, but it didnt work out. i think my body takes this much time to make changes.
 

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« Reply #19982 on: 12/02/2016 21:10:10 »
Congratulation and thanks to give your progress 1 year later.
Do you have hormones bloodtest ?
If it is slow, it might be the balance of hormones.
 

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« Reply #19983 on: 12/02/2016 22:22:56 »
Hello everyone,
I am happy2.  I found the cure for POIS at Christmas time.  I am now 100% POIS free.  B Jim, Daveman, or whoever, e-mail me, and I will let you know how I did it.  I posted years ago with a severe case of POIS.  I suffered for almost 20 years.  3 1/2 years ago I went to a urologist.  He said he had never heard of this before.  However, he told me to get on an anti-histamine, which I did.  30 days later, after being on Claritin daily I orgasmed.  I immediately got out of bed and popped 2 benadryls and as I reported 3 1/2 years back, this reduced POIS symptoms by 95%.  I went back to same urologist 3 years later, this last July.  He told me to get on Zyrtec because this was more powerful of an anti-histamine than Claritin.  I experimented with Zyrtec next POIS session on days 1, 2, and 3.  Usually with physical or mental exertion on any POIS day for me has caused fatigue, or crash days, the following days after POIS, days 4 and 5.  This time was different, however.  I had no crash days on 4 and 5.  So, I started taking both Claritin and Zyrtec together, daily.  Two months later, I orgasmed, popped the usual 2 benadryls, and waited, 30 seconds, 1 minute, and nothing.  Mind did not fog over for the first time in 20 years following an orgasm.  This occurred at Christmas time, 2015.  I experimented for the next 4 weeks, orgasming 12 times.  Every time was the same result, NO POIS.  Thank God I found this cure.  I tried one benadryl instead of two, and it did not give the same result.  So, to recap, one Claritin and one Zyrtec daily, and exactly 2 benadryls immediately, within 20 seconds or so following orgasm.  NO POIS.  Thanks to the people on this site that gave me so much information about POIS.  I would have never known what it was except for this site.  Like I said, moderators, feel free to contact me.  Thanks to all.
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« Reply #19984 on: 13/02/2016 15:43:10 »
Congratulation and thanks to give your progress 1 year later.
Do you have hormones bloodtest ?
If it is slow, it might be the balance of hormones.
Hello B_Jim
I didnt do a hormone blood test..... I will do it soon
 

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« Reply #19985 on: 15/02/2016 09:40:54 »
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Congratulations for your succes.
It proves once again that Pois has an inflammatory/histaminic component.
It could be good to know why benardyl works better than claritine.
I had a bad experience with claritine and I'm not motivated to try benadryl :)
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« Reply #19986 on: 16/02/2016 12:55:54 »
I just finished a two week of absistance. My life has been going in a good direction. I gave up porn over a month ago and don't even miss it. I know that this evil addiction has passed because, what gives, you face naughty pictures on the internet once in a while even if you don't want to and it doesn't trigger anything in me anymore. I just acknowledge it, and move on. I beat the devil..... BUT I did felt the need to ejaculate today to my own fantasies.

There is this guy on the other board called Sameer. He's been dealing with the same sh1t I am; that is elevated blood sugar levels. My sugars have been fine the past week, as normal as a healthy human beings, sometimes a bit elevated in between meals. I had to make adjustment and reduce my insulin dosages thanks to my healthier lifestyle. It gets a bit higher from doing weight lifting thanks to the adrenaline, but it passes within 20 minutes after the exercise is complete.

So today I just MB-d. I checked my sugar few minutes later and even an hour later. It was over 400......

For the past year I just put down POIS to being psychological and my health issues to living an inactive life. But after today I just feel suicidal. I want to kill myself. I don't know what's going on. I tried reaching out to Sameer but he disappeared. When you work so hard to make such changes in your life for better health and to be a better husband, and POIS comes and slaps you in the face just to fall back to that bottomless pit you started from. Should I just give up? Should I just kill myself? Anti-histamines would do jack sh1t about hyperglycemia, but I'm relieved to know that others have success with it. I've had POIS for the past 8 years before and after diabetes diagnosis. I want my life back so bad I could kill somebody to get it back. This is a nightmare you cannot wake up from!!!!!!!!!!!

2 hours after I ejaculated I have the following symptoms: severe toothache (wasn't there before), migraine going through left eye (wasn't there), depression (wasn't there), acetone breath (wasn't there), anger (wasn't there), feeling cold (wasn't there), cannot focus/concentrate (wasn't there), feeling dumb (wasn't there).
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« Reply #19987 on: 18/02/2016 13:45:47 »
Hello everyone
     I am very happy to tell you guys how well eggs are helping me against POIS. I started eating eggs after reading Gcrisp post in the naked scientists forum.
I would be curious to know if it was the egg whites or the yolks that were helping you. I have an allergy to eggs so it is not a viable option especially every day. Through experimenting I found it was the whites that were worse for me than the yolks.

Have you ever experimented with supplements of the nutrients that eggs are high in....like biotin, Chloline, B12, etc?
 

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« Reply #19988 on: 18/02/2016 14:18:35 »

....So, to recap, one Claritin and one Zyrtec daily, and exactly 2 benadryls immediately, within 20 seconds or so following orgasm.  NO POIS.  Thanks to the people on this site that gave me so much information about POIS.  I would have never known what it was except for this site.  Like I said, moderators, feel free to contact me.  Thanks to all.
Happy2 I assume you are in the USA. Benadryl is not compounded the same in all countries, so people reading this should be made aware of this. In Nth America it contains Diphenhydramine (key active ingredient) but not in UK or AUS/NZ or some other countries maybe as well.

Do you have any other issues with histamine, like say feeling bad after wine or food allergies or hay fever?  There is a supplement out called DAOsin (contains Diamine Oxidase) which is for histamine intolerance. I have not tired it yet. I avoid foods I am intolerant too and my hayfever is not so bad anymore and a Zyrtec takes care of the few bad days. It is not cheap unfortunately, but this may be an option for some of us.

For me taking Zyrtec or Claratin never remedied POIS, but helped slightly with brain fog. I never experimented with 2 or 3 tabs at a time though. First generation anti histamines would knock me out with sleepiness, but I probably never tried something that had Diphenhydramine in it.
 

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« Reply #19989 on: 18/02/2016 22:13:11 »
acronym,
I have no known food allergies.  The benadryl does have a hangover effect though day 1.  I can live with that though!  Brain fog, and all the rest of the pois symptoms kicked my butt.  I would encourage anyone to give it try.  2 benadryls within 20 seconds or so of O, and Claritin and Zyrtec daily.  I hope it helps somebody.  Thanks.
 

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« Reply #19990 on: 19/02/2016 14:39:58 »
I was wondering if anyone else has selective IgA deficiency, which is an immune dificiency disorder.  I've been doing a lot of blood work recently and I found this out when testing for allergies (Celiac disease in particular).  IgA is a blood protein that provents agains infection of the respiratory system and digestive tract.
 

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« Reply #19991 on: 21/02/2016 23:18:25 »
I cut out the Claritin a week ago.  Continued the Zyrtec nightly during that time period.  Last night nocturnal emission, popped 2 benadryls and it still worked.  Next morning, total clarity, just the effects of the benadryl to deal with.  So, still works, even without the Claritin.
 

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« Reply #19992 on: 01/03/2016 11:29:03 »
I cut out the Claritin a week ago.  Continued the Zyrtec nightly during that time period.  Last night nocturnal emission, popped 2 benadryls and it still worked.  Next morning, total clarity, just the effects of the benadryl to deal with.  So, still works, even without the Claritin.

Hi    happy2

would you make some brief to me or your advise about what to take,shall i take the    
medicine before,after,or when i am in pois..?how long i must use this medicine?
regards..
 

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« Reply #19993 on: 01/03/2016 20:22:12 »
Meteo74,
This is a reply I sent to one of the senior members of this forum just 10 minutes ago.  I don't know if it went through to him or not, so I will post it again here. 
The treatment is one Zyrtec every day.  And 2 benadryls within 20 seconds immediately following orgasm.  That's exactly 2 benadryls after each orgasm.  My urologist said anti-histamines are not a problem for the liver.  He said the only side-effect of multiple anti-histamines taken in a single day is that it "will just dry you out".  He recommended taking one Zyrtec every day.  So, to recap, the one Zyrtec every day and 2 benadryls immediately within 20 seconds after each orgasm.  I have used this treatment of 2 benadryls multiple times per day and it works every single time.  The only effect is that it puts me in a bad mood the following day with the benadryl hangover.  So to avoid that, I try to keep it to only one O on any given day of the week.  Hope that works.  Have a great day, any more questions, just fire away.
 

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« Reply #19994 on: 11/03/2016 11:33:52 »
Hi Happy2,

Have you ever tried Hydroxizinum instead of Benadryl?

Read this: Protection against endotoxin shock by antihistamines and similar pharmacologic agents has been reported in the literature. The authors tested the validity of this form of treatment by animal experiments which were conducted in three phases. During the first phase, 10 mice each were treated intravenously with various doses of gram negative endotoxin to determine the dose of endotoxin which would kill 80% of the animals (LD80). This dose was determined to be 36 mg/kg bodyweight. During the second phase, 10 mice each were pretreated with various doses of either diphenhydramine (Benadryl) or of hydroxyzine HCI (Atarax) one hour prior to the administration of the LD80 of endotoxin. It appeared that high doses of diphenhydramine as well as of hydroxyzine were highly fatal to most animals by causing severe convulsions within 3 to 6 hours at doses of 40 or 50 mg/kg. Doses of less than 1 mg/kg appeared to have no protective effect, while doses of 2.5 and of 5 mg/kg, given one hour prior to the LD80 of endotoxin, had some protective value. In the case of diphenhydramine, 60% of the animals survived with 5 mg/kg pretreatment. Hydroxyzine hydrochloride protected 100% of the 10 animals so treated during the initial experiment and 90% during a subsequent experiment, if given 1 hour before the endotoxin. The third phase of this experiment was designed to determine the optimal time at which hydroxyzine needs to be given to protect against fatal endotoxin shock. Given 6 hours before endotoxin, hydroxyzine appeared to protect half of the animals, 1 hour prior to endotoxin, 5 mg/kg of hydroxyzine protected 90% of animals; if given simultaneously, it protected all animals. When hydroxyzine was given 1 hour after endotoxin there was a 70% survival and, if given 3 hours after endotoxin, a 40% survival.

 

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« Reply #19995 on: 18/03/2016 19:00:01 »
Meteo74,
This is a reply I sent to one of the senior members of this forum just 10 minutes ago.  I don't know if it went through to him or not, so I will post it again here. 
The treatment is one Zyrtec every day.  And 2 benadryls within 20 seconds immediately following orgasm.  That's exactly 2 benadryls after each orgasm.  My urologist said anti-histamines are not a problem for the liver.  He said the only side-effect of multiple anti-histamines taken in a single day is that it "will just dry you out".  He recommended taking one Zyrtec every day.  So, to recap, the one Zyrtec every day and 2 benadryls immediately within 20 seconds after each orgasm.  I have used this treatment of 2 benadryls multiple times per day and it works every single time.  The only effect is that it puts me in a bad mood the following day with the benadryl hangover.  So to avoid that, I try to keep it to only one O on any given day of the week.  Hope that works.  Have a great day, any more questions, just fire away.

I believe there is something to this.
I used zyrtec  once daily for about a week and the half before orgasms. Before the  orgasms I used my daily zyrtec about an hour before and 2 benadryls (about five to ten mins)  before.  I orgasmed back to back and then used another two benadryls right after the second orgasm.  I went to sleep and woke up the next day without that horrible fatigue, no feeling that life has been sucked out of me. I was surprised at this so I tried it again the next day following the same routine, the results were the same, no crazy fatigue.   
 
I don't think this is a fluke or placebo, four orgasms in two days, usually destroys me for weeks.

I could not see how it affects my cognitive symptoms.  I don't seem to recover 100% percent cognitively anymore no matter how long I go in between orgasms. Maybe if I use zyrtec for much longer I will see beneficial results cognitively.
I will come back to zyrtec and Benadryl  in the future I want to test other medicines/supplements.

I will warn zyrtec made me extremely sleepy, I will be careful using it and plan to go to bed much earlier than  you normally do. If you start using it, start on day you know you don't have to wake up early the next day.
 

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« Reply #19996 on: 18/03/2016 23:22:15 »
CertainlyPOIS,
That's great!!!  I never used Benadryl before orgasm.  However, I found out if I don't take exactly 2 benadryls immediately following orgasm I get brain fog, without the fatigue.  Even if I only take the second Benadryl 3 minutes late, I'll get brain fog for 1 day following.  So if you're up for it, try taking the 2 benadryls immediately following Each orgasm.  Congratulations on the success. 
 

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« Reply #19997 on: 28/03/2016 17:09:39 »

I cut out the Claritin a week ago.  Continued the Zyrtec nightly during that time period.  Last night nocturnal emission, popped 2 benadryls and it still worked.  Next morning, total clarity, just the effects of the benadryl to deal with.  So, still works, even without the Claritin.

I'm curious if you always take your antihistamines at bedtime before you go to sleep. Back when I used to use diphenhydramine(benadryl) or loratadine(claritin) for my POIS I would always dose before sleep and eventually I suspected that the primary way it was treating my POIS was by improving my sleep quality or just increasing the number of hours of sleep I got as sleepiness is an effect of those drugs.
 

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« Reply #19998 on: 02/04/2016 05:18:55 »
Hello everyone
     I am very happy to tell you guys how well eggs are helping me against POIS. I started eating eggs after reading Gcrisp post in the naked scientists forum.
I would be curious to know if it was the egg whites or the yolks that were helping you. I have an allergy to eggs so it is not a viable option especially every day. Through experimenting I found it was the whites that were worse for me than the yolks.

Have you ever experimented with supplements of the nutrients that eggs are high in....like biotin, Chloline, B12, etc?
Hi acronym
 I saw your message only today... I eat the whole egg.. I think POIS is due to reduced cholesterol synthesis in the body...moreover the blood brain barrier only allows negligible amounts of cholesterol to enter the brain.... So it takes a long time to see improvements
  I have not tried supplements like biotin, choline, B12. I dont get it in my country.... I have tried many prescription drugs and other supplements... But nothing helped...  Now i believe no drugs will help for POIS..I believe nutrition is the key for POIS...I have made significant progress with eggs since my last post... I will explain it soon..
   I used to eat commercial broiler chicken eggs bought from shops.. I have been eating these eggs for 15 months...now i get cold and fever once in a month... I suspect this is due to the chemicals they give to broilers for their faster growth.. So i stopped buying eggs from shops... Now i buy eggs from people who grow hens in their backyard..
   I think eggs from home grown hens are safe than eggs bought from shop.
 

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« Reply #19999 on: 02/04/2016 19:00:48 »
<former Moderator visiting periodically>

NORD's 3rd scientific progress report on POIS (Rutgers study) due any day now!

Will post here.

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