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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #250 on: 23/01/2008 21:25:06 »
Found this thread when I was trying to search for more info on the matter. Still at a loss though to figure out what it is exactly that I'm losing after orgasm and what I can do to regain it, or, at the very least, to minimize some of the side-effects.

For a few days after orgasm, I usually find myself mentally fogged up and rather unmotivated. And worse, as a result I usually find myself extra introverted since I have an impossible time trying to talk to people due to these effects. I end up not really having much to say and sometimes having difficulty following what the other person is saying. At its worst it gets to depression and just feeling grim/gloomy.

However, when some of the effects begin to wear off I usually feel extra confident, motivated, energetic, and... a fair bit horny as well. Which usually leads to a restart of the cycle.

Caffeine sometimes helps with this, as does some food (some makes it worse). Usually it gets at its worst later in the evening. I've been thinking that it's likely dopamine related for a while now, but unfortunately... I'm still completely clueless on neurochemistry

Oh, and also. I regularly take two fish oil, one in the morning and one at night, and I take a small dose of an SSRI at night.

Anyone have some ideas or suggestions?
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #251 on: 24/01/2008 00:40:38 »
Welcome Ender,
We're all searching... read through the posts and you'll get a few ideas, but it is currently a mysterious condition. What foods makes your problem worse for you? Do you think that the worsening in the evenings could be due to fighting with it all day, exhausting you?
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #252 on: 24/01/2008 07:09:15 »
I think that it's usually worse at night simply because... I'm naturally more tired at night.

As for food, I've found that foods heavier in raw fat will usually make matters worse, yet at the same time, small bits of meat or nuts sometimes make things feel a bit better for a while. Same with spaghetti tonight. Nutrigrain bars usually help for a short bit as well. Popcorn, potato chips, and anything with a lot of salt often-times make things worse though.

Probably has to do with nutritional value and such in that. However, what I find strange is that drinking lots of water makes it a lot worse. Especially at night. Coca Cola on the other hand sometimes works really well, but other times puts me to sleep.

The biggest thing I've found that helps however is just getting out and forcing myself to talk to people I'm comfortable with. Moving around a bit and motivating myself inspite of the pain and discomfort does tons more than anything else.

Oh, and trying not to concentrate too hard on things helps as well. Both mentally and physically.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #253 on: 24/01/2008 21:29:58 »
Hi everybody. Thank you so much for this topic, it's such a relief to discover I'm not the only one with this strange disease.

Let me describe my symptoms; as you will see they are not strictly identical to those posted here before. However, they are so strongly correlated to orgasm that for me POIS is the best explanation for my disorder.

First some personal details : male, age 49, computer scientist, living in France. I'm suffering from this condition for probably at least three years, and probably much more. It has worsened recently - at first it occurred occasionally, but not systematically as is the case now. To be precise, I'm now in the situation that having an orgasm during intercourse (not masturbation) leaves me sick the following days, in a systematic way. Actually my latest observations lead me to think that intensity of my symptoms are proportional to the actual length and intensity of the orgasm.

I understand those who speak of denial. I still have difficulty coming to terms with the facts. Speaking to others helps a lot - in my case I spoke to it with my wife first, and now this forum. The best explanation for this denial is that until recently I suffered from sleep apnea. Since I had mandibulary surgery this summer the apnea disappeared completely, but not the symptoms that I had attributed to it.

Here are my latest observations, starting last Sunday at about 9 PM, just after sex (I wrote everything like in a diary actually).

H =0
Everything normal.

H+1 to H+1:30
Feeling of anxiety.
I feel a strange burning/oppressed feeling when breathing, like I've just been bathing in cold seawater (I must say it's very hard to describe).
My temperature rises to about 37.5C. I feel great warmth over all my body.
My breathing gets heavier.

H+3
I awake with the same symptoms as above, only worse. Anxiety is close to panic. I realize that this episode is probably the most severe I've ever had - probably because the orgasm I experienced was sensibly longer and more intense than usual.
My temperature has dropped to 37.5C.
Nausea.

D+1 (morning)
I have a hard time getting up - I wake up and fall back to sleep repeatedly.
The oppressed feeling during breathing is still there. I feel like a weight on my chest.
My face in general and mouth in particular feel very tense, almost making it difficult to talk.
I feel terribly tired during breakfast, exhausted actually.

D+1 (rest of the day)
Physical activity seems to be highly demanding. I avoid the staircases, even walking is difficult.
I can do my work, but it's a very, very, uncomfortable day. I lose my concentration now and then.
Back home in the evening, my temperature is back to normal (slightly below 37)

D+2
Like D+1, it's hard to get out of bed, and even harder to get wide awake.
I feel terribly tired, exhausted, making me irritable, hardly sociable.
However, I don't feel even half as bad as on D+1, although breathing still feels difficult.

D+3
Same as D+2, just slightly better

D+4 (today)
Things are almost back to normal, except that I'm really, really tired.

Well that's it... Just before I finish this long post (I hope you don't mind), I'd like to ask just one question: in your opinion, which field of medicine is most concerned by this syndrome: neurology, sexology, endocrinology, urology,..., psychiatry (just joking...) ? My problem is I just don't know which doctor I should consult...

Thank you in advance for your reactions, and sorry again for being so long.

 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #254 on: 25/01/2008 01:02:48 »
Hi everyone... posting again.
I have not followed the thread for a while, but I see a lot of guys joining in...
My condition has not improved... nothing really has changed.
But I'm here if I can help someone sharing my experience...
For the new guys, if you are interested... read my previous posts.

I'll try to catch the thread again...

Greetings.
JP
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #255 on: 25/01/2008 07:37:37 »
143/  http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=31468&pid=336198&st=0&#entry336198 [nofollow]

I've noticed this for years. Shortly after ejaculating, my immune system becomes depressed and I start to catch a sore throat. Sometimes it sticks, sometimes not. Since getting a chipped molar, the effect is even more noticeable. I'm more prone to infection in that tooth and can literally feel the left tonsil starting to swell after ejaculating. It's only ever a problem after ejaculation

Another thing is that for a few days afterwards, I'm less intelligent, less coordinated, have a slower reaction time and feel tired in general. I understand this can be attributed to abnormally high levels of prolactin, but is there another piece of story missing? Could it have something to do with dopamine too?

Does anyone here understand what's going on? Can anyone relate? Any solutions?

144/  http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic95403.html [nofollow]

that was my question... i kinda feel that masterbation is a drug to me... i have to do it to feel free and relaxed. it surely tires me out and since i'm a teen i do this after school.. i find that i can't concentrate after maturbating and i can't focus at all. pls help...


145/ http://www.consultation.ayurvediccure.com/why-do-i-get-fever-after-i-masturbate/#comments [nofollow]

Why do I get fever after I masturbate?
I am a 19 y/old male from the Philippines. I never had this problem before but it seems like its always happening now. What could be the indications of this? What should I do? should I stop masturbating? I hope you could take time to answer my question.. Thank you

[Answer :  Long term over masturbation not only decreases the immunity of urogenital system but it causes weakness and loss of immunity in whole body ....
So we recommend you to use Shilajit /i]... ]

Shilajit informations :
http://www.wordpress.rudramani.com/2009/01/04/shilajit/ [nofollow]

146/  http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ab-menopause&tid=1448 [nofollow]

Hi, I am 30 years old.  liked to ask, after having sex, I always got a fever, seems like I'm not feeling well. My boyfriend likes to having sex more than an hour, he is quiet hard to get orgasm. What's wrong with my body? Is it normal to having sex as long as we had? ( I was too tired after that:( ). Somebody help me please???


147/ http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic76466.html [nofollow]

Nausea After Orgasm
It used to happen only once in awhile, but it seems recently that everytime I achieve orgasm I feel nauseated. It doesn't matter if I orgasm because of sex or masturbation--still the same result. Also a new recent thing is after orgasming I instantly become really depressed and feel like i'm going to cry. Has anyone come across this problem or knows what it is?

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I've had the same thing for 3 years, ever since I had surgery for an ovarian cyst. I've been to so many doctors about this and no one will help. I feel very depressed. But here's what I found out works for me.

I take an advil[ an hour before sexual activity /color], then, right after having an orgasm, I take an antacid.

This leaves me with absolutely no pain or nausea. Unfortunately, if I forget, or take the pain reliever too soon before sex, or too early, I feel sick for the next few days.

Does anybody know what kind of a doctor could treat this? I'd rather not take painkillers for the rest of my life.

ADVIL = ANTI-INLAMMATORY ,


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the same....
i have the same problem! well i am only 17. but every time that i hit orgasm, i feel sick to my stomach, i get lightheaded (and a couple times i have actually passed out), i get weak, i sometimes get depressed, but heres the really strange thing.... it takes almost 4 days for me to feel a little better! i dont know what the heck this is! i want to find out....

some people have told me that it could be my blood pressure, some told me that it is my adrenaline still racing.... i dont know! i just want to find an answer so my boyfriend and i can have some sence of relief if it isnt something that i was born with, etc..

150/ http://www.steadyhealth.com/feeling_sick_after_masterbating_t129093.html [nofollow]

feeling sick after masterbating
few weeks ago i masterbated and felt sick afterwards , like dizzy weak,lightheaded ,heart was beating very fast,fekt very hot inside, what do you think it was, i do get panic attacks sometimes, could i have had that ,what was it


151/ http://www.steadyhealth.com/viewtopic.php?p=735482#735482 [nofollow]

Exact same problem, and I have suggestions and leads.

I am now 47, condition started after abstaining from sex for 3 years at age of 34. I read a complete article about 5-6 hormones that are released during orgasm, one of which induces fatigue ... but, mine lasts for 3-4 days!! To me, more satisfying experiences create LESS fatigue. I am also a pre-mature ejaculator, so it is not the physical effort. The frequency of ejaculation does not matter, I often sleep 12 hours after ejaculation. I also discovered that ginger reduces the effect. Also SSRI depression drugs minimize the effect. I have also noticed that encounters which do not result in ejaculation do not cause this fatigue ... at all!!! so I am sure it is due to the hormons released during ejaculation.

GINGER

152/ http://www.justanswer.com/questions/2jdb3-ejaculate-during-sex-feverish?r=billbob393 [nofollow]

Question
after I ejaculate during sex I have feverish symptom, prolong tiredness and weekness to the point that If ihave sex and ejaculate within the next 24 hrs the feelings worsen and I begin to experience some runny nose. A year ago my urine test revealed light trace of blood but a subsequent prostate exam was negative. I also have also been having some recurring low back pain on the left side ( moves from the bottom of the lung area to my hip bones) although xray , an endoscopy and a colonoscopy) have not found anything. I believe that all the symptoms are related.Please help.

153/ http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/cortisol-4x-saliva-testosterone-134262256.html [nofollow]

The strange thing about my adrenal fatigue symptoms is that it only happens 1-2 days after an orgasm.

The 3-7 days after orgasm I feel good(No chronic fatigue) and can train intensely in hard combat sport in boxing and can manage 2 hours np and socialise but the 1-2 days after orgasm I experience :

Muscle & joint pain
Overall body inflammation
Digestive problems
overall exhaustion
migraines
hot & cold symptoms
depression
Feel like sleeping all day dispite having 9-10 hour sleep

Its impossible for me to do the boxing training the 1-2 days after orgasm but walking is ok.

At one point I was sleeping in for 12-14 hours the night after orgasm. This was when POIS was at its worst and the symptoms would last 5-7 days.

154/ http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/showthread.php?p=192944 [nofollow]

I am experiencing the same problem. To get to the point, these are some symptoms that I have had for more than 1 year:

1. I had a fever about 2 days after sex
2. On my third time having sex with the same woman, I could immediatley feel burning/tingling sensation in my thighs, even when I am not sitting down.
3. For first several days, it felt like something was swimming inside my body from my waist to my mid body, my neck, and my head. I also had tingling sensation in my throat.
4. I took antibiotics several times, but it only reduced the fever.
5. I continued to have burning/tingling sensation in my thighs and buttocks, but only when I am sitting down.
6. I tried jock itch spray but it only reduced the symptoms for several days, then the symptoms came back full force.
7. I tried taking salt bath but it only offered brief relief.
8. My infectious disease doctor prescribed me Flagyl, but it only reduced the symptoms for 2-3 days, then the symptoms came back full force.
9. During this time, it felt like some feather duster organism was swimming inside my body. I continued to have burning/tingling sensation in my thighs and buttock.
10. My doctor then prescribed my Acyclovir. I think this was after testing positive for Type I herpes. I tried it for a week then I started having tingling sensation in my upper lip, then a blister came out. Several days later, I started having throbbing nerve pain in my heart, left eye, top of my brain. Eventually, the nerve pain progressed to other parts of body, such as leg, hand, etc.
11. I endured much pain before calling my health insurance directly to have a spinal tap done. I had a very comprehensive blood test and spinal test. I even paid for my own semen test and stool test. Out of all the tests done, ONLY the blood test showed up as being positive for Type 1 Herpes. Spinal tap, stool test, semen test all showed up as negative.
12. My neurologist gave me Indomethacin but it almost killed me so quit taking it after 2 days.
13. I went to a herbal specialist and he prescribed me Ling Zhi. Three days later, all the nerver pains and swimming sensation in my upper body disappeared, even the severe headache.
14. The symptoms came back after a month on Ling Zhi. The headache reduced about 90%.
15. My doctor then prescribed me Nystatin. After two weeks on Nystatin, all prickly nerve pain in my upper body disappeared. My doctor finally concluded that I did not have Herpes because there was no physcial signs of it. I went to many doctors! He also explained that Herpes does not have signs of persistent tingling/burning mucles/nerve pain in the groin, thigh and buttock. Furthermore, if I had herpes in my central nervous system, I would be dead.

16. ***Here are some tests that I have done***
a. eat candy or food with high sugar or cafine
b. eat fruits with high sugar
c. self masturbate
(What do you get when you try the above tests?)

17. Now, all the doctors have sent me home saying that I have NOTHING. On one beautiful day, I made a self discovery which has lead me closer to a cure. The intense and persistent buring/tingling sensation in my thighs and buttock are 85% gone. It has now been 1 1/2 years.

Do you want to know the answer?

155/ (woman) http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090709175518AArlS9a [nofollow]

After you have sex, are you supposed to feel sick?
I'm a female and me and me bf didnt use proctection but we didnt insert his you know wat into my you know wat. Like one minute after i felt immediatly sick and the days after im still feeling very tired, dizzy, not able too eat, backache, ect. Does this mean i'm pregnant? And could have the pre-ejaculation made its way up there? I'm very worried and were not emotionally ready for a child.

1min => step 1
several days => step 2

156/ http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=12093 [nofollow]

On the other hand, for 3-5 days after ejaculating, i would feel so weak, so vulnerable around other people, and get into these funks where, i felt i had no purpose in life, just utter lack of motivation. So, after some searching around i found this site, and the concept of retention.


157/ http://kinseyconfidential.org/fatigue-day-after-sex/ [nofollow]

What Might Cause Fatigue The Day After Sex?
QUESTION: My wife and I have sex once or twice a week. For the past few years, weve both been getting extremely tired after sex. It makes us feel as though were unable to carry out our daily work efficiently the next day. What can we do to overcome this?

158/ http://forums.obgyn.net/womens-health/WHF.9904/0311.html [nofollow]

pain the day after orgasm
I am asking this question on behalf of my daughter. She is 33, and has had 2 children. A year ago she had a laparoscopic examination for abdominal pain and an adhesion was cut which solved the problem. For the last 6 months she has had pain in her legs and abdominal area the day after experiencing orgasm. This happens whether or not there is intercourse. There is no pain at the time. 3 Ibuprofen can alleviate the pain, but she is concerned at this level of medication. Her gynecologist has recommended a hysterectomy as the only cure as he believes the problem is in stretched ligaments. We hope that someone may have an alternative suggestion.

159/ http://www.psychforums.com/sexuality/topic26287.html [nofollow]

Hi, I'm 26 years old and believe I have a major problem when it comes to masterbating and sex which I hope someone here can help me with.

As long as I can remember back right after masterbation I've become overly tired, grumpy, emotional, even depressed to the point where I cannot function properly and I become a different person. I've found it to take generally 3 to 4 days before I can get my physical energy level back to normal. This also happens when I have sex. Normally, it happens 20 minutes after I ejaculate. I fall into this routine over and over again. Ejaculation equals over all bodily weakness for me for a few days.
It affects my body and screws up my emotions for a few days... My energy, how I'm able to focus and I also become slower and much weaker PHYSICALLY.

Now, I love sex as much as the next fella, but sometimes I've had to put it off knowing I need to focus the next day and be on top of my game, so I better not have sex or masterbate Because I know that I will have to pay the price if I do.

160/ Same topic

Hi i experience exactly the same thing as what you described. have you found any solutions??

161/ Same topic

I'm so glad I found this topic. Finally, someone who can relate to my own problem instead of convincing me that I'm just having trouble to accept my sexuality! This information is really helpful to me.

162/ http://www.justanswer.com/questions/2u79r-i-am-67-years-of-age-and-female-i-have-a-history-of-diabetes [nofollow]

I am 67 years of age and female. I have a history of diabete. and high blood pressure. When I have sex with my husband, I have this burning pain in my feet. It is unbearable and sometime I have to stop the action. It does not hurt in the vagina, but the motion causes that reaction in my feet. Afterwards the sensation has been in feet for several days. Is it that something is wrong with my vagina or is a nervous condition? Please help me I don't know how much longer I can take this. Thank you. Dorothy

163/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091224182816AADvpID [nofollow]

Tired after ejaculation and the day after?
I am 15year old boy. I started masturbating 6months ago.I feel very tired after masturbating.I really want to know if it is normal to feel tired and sleepy the DAY AFTER!!! masturbating.See this is my big problem because i masturbate everyday Only once before going to bed and i feel extremley tired and weak at school and i would want to go to sleep. Could you guys tell me if i need medical treatment or is there something wrong with me???? This is very important to me because my friends keep telling me that i look really tired.

164/ http://veryrarestuff.com/tag/exhausted [nofollow]

I just discovered that I have very rare syndrom (some call it Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome). After I ejaculate I have brain fog, I feel mentally and physically exhausted for a week or longer and if i dont prevent myself from masturbating I will constantly have brain fogness, low energy, tongue tied How did I discover this? Ever since I started masturbating (5th grade) Ive been living a life in confusion. Now Im 22 and last spring I started experimenting trying not to masturbate for as longer as possible. After 2 weeks without it, I felt that energy was built up and I had incredible drive to do things, think clearly, talk to ppl easily. I simply felt normal. And I can destroy that collected energy with 1or 2 masturbations. Later I heard that Eastern Philosophies talk about connection between energy and masturbation. The worst thing is that Im an artist and I cant do good artwork after I masturbate. I think that my condition ruined my life and Ive never had a girlfriend.

165/ http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts13714168.aspx [nofollow]

About two hours after I have an orgasm, I get a stuffy nose and a headache. I then feel like I'm living in a haze for the next week or so. I have problems concentrating and remembering things, and I get real irritable, until in about two weeks I'm back to normal again. The doctor says I have "Post-Orgasmic Illness Syndrome". Her solution to my problem is for me to abstain from sex.
She says that I shouldn't engage in any form of sexual activity to avoid any form of arousal unless I just want to deal with the "hangover" afterwards. This hangover can be quite debilitating, especially if I need my brain to be halfway reliable.
Anyone else heard of this and know of anything I can do to curtail these symptoms and have a normal sex-life?

166/ http://www.empowher.com/community/ask/pain-back-legs-knees-after-sex?page=2 [nofollow]

I have severe pain running down the backs of both legs (from my sitting bones down hamstrings) & knees after having sex. When I sit, it's dull & not as bad, but when I'm up it is awful! It starts within minutes of finishing sex and lasts at least half a day. Have never had this problem before. I am pregnant if that makes any difference, but haven't had this issue with past pregnancies. It's taking the fun out of having sex with my husband. Is there anything I can do to avoid or at least ease the pain?

167/ http://www.steadyhealth.com/Tired_after_ejaculation_t106407_st20.html [nofollow]

I am 22 and I also have this problem where I feel tired/weak/lazy/down/upset/sad for about 1 week after sex and this definately affects my workout routines, the way I talk to people, the way I dress, and the way I act around people. It's horrible especially when your gf wants sex all the time. It also sucks b/c as you people said, it feels like you're missing out on life. Like I want to sleep around with other girls too you know.
I have not found out what works. The only thing I found out is abstaining from both masterbation and sex, that's all. That's the only thing which makes me happy, feel strong, active, smart, dress well, look good, etc.

168/ http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100402131524AAcSyP0 [nofollow]

Weakness after masturbation?
i am 18, i feel week after masturbation and feel tired and feverish for 2 days after that i find it difficult 2 concentrate and have a boggeled mind
how 2 recover ? is it normal?

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #256 on: 25/01/2008 22:16:00 »
Hi Jim. I haven't tested any meds yet, I would like to get medical advice first (I have an appointment in a few days). Same answer for bloodtests.

You don't mention beta blockers, although they are quoted in page one of this thread. Has anybody tested these?
 

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« Reply #257 on: 26/01/2008 08:39:52 »
My problem is I just don't know which doctor I should consult...

I guess that is the real problem after all. I think there are no doctors that specialise in our deficiency.
 

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« Reply #258 on: 26/01/2008 08:43:11 »
You don't mention beta blockers, although they are quoted in page one of this thread. Has anybody tested these?

Very dangerous. They make you physicaly dependent on drugs that may actually kill you. My doctor (neurologist) did not want to give them to me.

Without clear indication that it would work I would stay away from these as fas as I can.
 

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« Reply #259 on: 26/01/2008 08:44:51 »
H =0
Everything normal.

H+1 to H+1:30
Feeling of anxiety.
I feel a strange burning/oppressed feeling when breathing, like I've just been bathing in cold seawater (I must say it's very hard to describe).
My temperature rises to about 37.5C. I feel great warmth over all my body.
My breathing gets heavier.

H+3
I awake with the same symptoms as above, only worse. Anxiety is close to panic. I realize that this episode is probably the most severe I've ever had - probably because the orgasm I experienced was sensibly longer and more intense than usual.
My temperature has dropped to 37.5C.
Nausea.

D+1 (morning)
I have a hard time getting up - I wake up and fall back to sleep repeatedly.
The oppressed feeling during breathing is still there. I feel like a weight on my chest.
My face in general and mouth in particular feel very tense, almost making it difficult to talk.
I feel terribly tired during breakfast, exhausted actually.

D+1 (rest of the day)
Physical activity seems to be highly demanding. I avoid the staircases, even walking is difficult.
I can do my work, but it's a very, very, uncomfortable day. I lose my concentration now and then.
Back home in the evening, my temperature is back to normal (slightly below 37)

D+2
Like D+1, it's hard to get out of bed, and even harder to get wide awake.
I feel terribly tired, exhausted, making me irritable, hardly sociable.
However, I don't feel even half as bad as on D+1, although breathing still feels difficult.

D+3
Same as D+2, just slightly better

D+4 (today)
Things are almost back to normal, except that I'm really, really tired.


By the way seems like a good description of POIS. Especially the fact that the second day is the hardest is very indicative.
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« Reply #260 on: 26/01/2008 08:54:48 »
I few years ago I took amino acids for thyroid support, way too much, and that is when my POIS started.  I probably burned out my thyroid by accident. 

A further indication that POIS is related to thyroid disfunction.

How are your eyes? According to the "program for better vision" glaucoma is also caused by thyroid disfunction.

Anyway there is supposed to be a simple test you can use to determine wether you have a thyroid disfunction. The "Cambridge Institute" seems to have more information about it (http://www.program-for-better-vision.com/).
 

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« Reply #261 on: 26/01/2008 16:30:39 »
as you will see they are not strictly identical to those posted here before.

Yes POIS seems to be like the show "heroes". At first the symptoms seem to be somewhat unrelated. But after you read some more up on it, and you know what to look out for, the red line through the story becomes clear.
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« Reply #262 on: 27/01/2008 17:20:52 »
hi folks

interested here again: I am still interested! I have a question - actually a few questions! - for all you men out there, would love honest answers if possible. 

Do you project - subconsciously or consciously - your suffering on your partner after orgasm? Do you have negative feelings towards this person afterwards? Somehow feel that this person is to blame for the suffering? Avoid this person? And if so, how long / to what extent?

I am trying desperately to understand this horrible phenomenon: being a woman, I am sort of on the receiving end of it and am a bit baffled at the moment.

Thanks a lot!
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« Reply #263 on: 27/01/2008 20:40:17 »
My problem is I just don't know which doctor I should consult...

I guess that is the real problem after all. I think there are no doctors that specialise in our deficiency.

I'll be seeing a sexologist in a few days. I'll keep you updated...
 

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« Reply #264 on: 27/01/2008 22:12:08 »
Interested, I don't recall having negative feelings like this, my reaction was fear not anger. But the distance created when I couldn't discuss the truth about what was happening was definately a wedge.
 

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« Reply #265 on: 28/01/2008 11:14:00 »
hi John

a wedge that drives people apart?
 

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« Reply #266 on: 28/01/2008 13:51:50 »
169/  http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts13714168.aspx [nofollow]

About two hours after I have an orgasm, I get a stuffy nose and a headache. I then feel like I'm living in a haze for the next week or so. I have problems concentrating and remembering things, and I get real irritable, until in about two weeks I'm back to normal again. The doctor says I have "Post-Orgasmic Illness Syndrome". Her solution to my problem is for me to abstain from sex.

She says that I shouldn't engage in any form of sexual activity to avoid any form of arousal unless I just want to deal with the "hangover" afterwards. This hangover can be quite debilitating, especially if I need my brain to be halfway reliable.

170/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100509230933AA3tQmS [nofollow]

I feel weak and tired for 2-3 days after ejaculation?
If I have sexual activity without ejaculation I feel fine so it has nothing to do with position or the energy expended in the sex act.

What should I do? I take a general vitamin everyday but it doesn't help.

171/ http://www.healthboards.com/boards/archive/index.php/t-89433.html [nofollow]

Fariha ... your symptoms are really right... i am really not able to concentrate on my studies and my life is becoming miserable day by day.. absent mindedness is killing me and i am suffering a lot.. can u suggest me something to come out this mess tht i have made out of myself

172/ http://www.girlsaskguys.com/Sexuality-Questions/60702-question-about-being-feverish-after-an-orgasm.html [nofollow]

Question about being feverish after an orgasm
I've been in a serious relationship for a while and we've recently started having sex. The problem is I feel really sick afterwards (not 'disgusting' sick) but I feel like a switch has been turned on somewhere and I suddenly develop a flu immediately after getting an orgasm. I get muscle aches, my joints ache and I get high fever which won't go away until days afterwards. It doesn't happen every single time I orgasm but it's happened 3 times already and it has me worried. I enjoy sex but sometimes knowing that I'd possibly feel horrible afterwards makes me not want to do it. Does anyone else feel the same way I do after sex?

173/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060909201832AAOR1qb [nofollow]

I get sick when I masturbate.?
Plz only answer if youre going to serious and KNOW WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT!!! Every time I masturbate I get gas, aches, diarrhea, somtimes I get hot, headaches and sweaty. I'm 15.

174/ http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100725230005AALfL3g [nofollow]

Sick feeling after masturbating?
Almost every time I masturbate I feel sick afterwards. I will get a headache and feel really nauseous. I thought maybe I was doing it too fast so I started making it last longer before I came but it didn't help any. It isn't EVERY time, but about 80% of the time it happens. Does this happen to anyone else? or do you know why it would be happening?

175/ http://cure-erectile-dysfunction.org/tired-after-ejaculation-or-sex/105#comment-652 [nofollow]

Tired after ejaculation or sex
hi,
i've been masturbating since i was 10 and i'm 23 now so that makes 13 years straight. i started having problems lately, whenever i ejaculate or have sex i will get extremely tired and weak, i mean really really weak - my joints will ache all day and it is like the ejaculating ruins my whole day and even the days after when i will feel also somehow weak. it only betters after a weak of abstinence but when i ejaculate i feel anxious and disharmoniously unhappy so that makes me masturbate even more it's so ugly! i am not a doctor but i consider myself smart enough to understand that there is something wrong with my hormones, perhaps i'm testosterone defficient ? i don't suffer weak erections but i ejaculate very fast.
thank you in advance
   
176/ http://www.boost-your-low-testosterone.com/tired-weak-after-ejaculation.html [nofollow]

I have found your information great, thanks. I have also been getting some benefit from maca powder.
However, I notice that after sex and I ejaculate, I feel really weak and tired.
I lose my sexual power for days, and my genitals get cold.
Also my heart feels weak, and it races.
I am 46 years old.
Are these symptoms of deficient testosterone and elevated estrogen levels?

177/ http://en.allexperts.com/q/Urology-Male-issues-989/post-ejaculatory-symptoms.htm [nofollow]

Joint Pain & Fever After Ejaculation
Thank you for taking the time to read and answer my question.  For the past few years, when I ejaculate (whether through intercourse or masturbation), I have been noticing some pain in my knees and lower back.  I am relatively sure it doesn't happen each time but it happens more than enough for it to be a problem.  The pain isn't enough to prevent me from any activity but it is definitely uncomfortable.  The pain lasts anywhere from 30 minutes to around an hour.
A few weeks back, a light bulb went off in my head and I realized the pain felt similar to the body aches I had when I was sick.  I decided to take my temperature and it was 99.6 degrees.  This appears to be a trend as I have taken my temperature several other times when I'm feeling these aches after ejaculation and it is always in the 99-100 degree range.
Is it normal for someone to experience a fever and the body aches associated with a fever after ejaculation?  I have searched around the Internet and I haven't seen any other postings about these symptoms.  If it is not normal, could it be a possible sign of something more serious?  What do you suggest I do?

178/ http://en.allexperts.com/q/Urology-Male-issues-989/post-ejaculatory-symptoms.htm [nofollow]

post ejaculatory symptoms
am a 52 yr old male. At age 32, I had left epididymitis, which resulted in atrophy of the L testicle. The testicle does not seem to have changed recently.I have been treated for prostatis periodically since that episode.

My current issue involves post- ejaculatory pain & other symptoms. For the past 8 months, I have experienced the following Sx for 5-7 days after ejaculation:
- frequency, dysuria, hesitancy, nocturia
- low grade pain in pelvic area & left testicle.(3-5 on
 a scale of 10)
- low grade nausea
- night sweats, low grade fever
- malaise
- urethral and bladder tenderness to palpation
- at times, the whole pelvis area feels "on fire"

The symptoms seem to resolve after 7-10 days.
I have been through a 30 day course of Levaquin, as well as Flomax. The symptoms resolved by 80% while on the antibiotic, but have since returned. I remain on the Flomax.

This may not be related, but (through a process of elimination) I have found that the symptoms are exacerbated by NSAIDS and aspirin. I have L3-S2 epidural injections for lower back pain q 4-6 months.

CBC is normal, TSH is normal, PSA is low, UA shows a few WBCs, significant RBCs, and epithelial cells. I have been monogamous for 35 years, and RPR/VDRL are neg.

179/ http://www.cafemom.com/group/416/forums/read/12259161/Postorgasmic_illness_syndrome?next=1#replies [nofollow]

My husband swears he has this.. or hes allergic to me.. He gets sick every time we have sex. also when he jacks off.. he gets a coongested head and gets very very snotty... and drained of energy... Any one elese???? Or am i the only 1 with a weird husband?? If it helps my husband is bipolar
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High concentration of catecholamines is present in sperm :

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1046/j.1439-0272.2001.00461.x [nofollow]

"In conclusion, noradrenaline and DOPA are present in human semen at concentrations that are much higher than maximal normal values in plasma."

Noradrenaline : 19 times more than concentration in plasma
Dopa : 2 times

180/ http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_gear/post_orgasmic_illness_syndrome [nofollow]

Ever since those days, though, I've suffered from post-orgasmic illness syndrome. It is a living hell. After ejaculating, I feel hot, have hot flashes, feel nearly retarded, have flulike chills and body aches and break out in a terrible rash. Oh, and extreme, extreme fatigue.

Now, even before I ever did a cycle, I experienced symptoms after orgasm, but most of them were mental, like fatigue and foggy head. Some hot flashes. But nothing like this.

I'm not even blaming the roads, but I do notice that my symptoms seem to have gotten worse after doing them.

Bud, that's part of the problem, I've gone to multiple docs and they all act like I'm crazy. They've tested my test levels and they're normal, and simply want to put me on an antidepressant, even though I'm not depressed, only very fatigued after sex. I've recently decided I have to find a solution to this on my own because I get no help elsewhere.


181/  http://www.dpselfhelp.com/forum/index.php?/topic/28657-i-enter-depersonalizationdepressionanxiety-for-days-after-ejaculating-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-me/ [nofollow]

I enter depersonalization/depression/anxiety for days after ejaculating. What the hell is wrong with me?

Who would I go to see about this specifically? What is this indicative of (maybe low testosterone and my body can't make enough to keep up/replace it? but I don't have a squeaky high voice, I do have body hair, etc. Or perhaps something dealing with the dopamine/serotonin/other chemicals that are released...)? I'm not sure how ejaculating from frequent sex would turn out, as I quite frankly haven't gotten any lately, but this is honestly ruining my life at this point. I don't want to have to live my life like a neutered monk or only ejaculate once every week or two weeks tops (it doesn't seem AS bad at that frequency) to ensure I don't have a meltdown. I can hold off in the meantime, but that seems neither like a happy nor long-term solution with a partner in the future.

I know it's normal to feel a little tired or low after ejaculating, but this is far from that. I literally get horrendous depersonalization, social anxiety, clouded thoughts, incoherent speech that does not feel like my own, lack of motivation, warped judgment, emptiness, you name it -- for DAYS. In short, I totally lose my "self." Is there a such thing as a sex doctor who can treat this kind of crap? Any serious replies are welcome. I'm desperate because I've now realized it's a serious, life-altering problem that fundamentally changes who I am and makes it a hell of a job to function and socialize at even a basic level.

P.S. As far as "talk to a doctor," I actually have no health insurance currently (getting it in October) so I was coming here for starters to see if anyone knew what this specifically sounded like. Also, I'm not religious or anything that would make this merely some sort of severe guilt issue with watching porn. I've additionally tried masturbating (to porn, yes) WITHOUT climaxing, and none of this happens, suggesting it may strictly be an issue with ejaculation and its associated chemicals.

I know the relationship with sex and DP has probably been discussed, but I will love you forever if you have any specific leads, info, or personal experiences with the specific problem I'm talking about. Thank you all in advance.


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« Reply #267 on: 28/01/2008 22:14:51 »
Demografx : You should ask your doctor more infos for Levitra.


Why? Levitra has cured 50%+ of my POIS !
And it helps libido. But not enough, as testosterone did.
 

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« Reply #268 on: 28/01/2008 22:28:27 »
SEXUAL/RELIGIOUS UPBRINGING

I may be going far afield, but since no one has complete answers yet (except for Levitra - for me), I'll try another avenue to POIS.

I was taught for years in parochial school how "sex is dirty" and "sinful".

Does anyone else think it's worth pursuing this possibility? i.e., that early sex teachings can contribute to POIS?

Also, this was coupled with years of corporal punishment. Maybe the combination of physical abuse plus poor sex education?

I'd like to hear from others.

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« Reply #269 on: 28/01/2008 22:30:41 »
WELCOME to all the newcomers!
 

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« Reply #270 on: 28/01/2008 22:38:23 »
My problem is I just don't know which doctor I should consult...

I guess that is the real problem after all. I think there are no doctors that specialise in our deficiency.

It would be great to find ANY doctor who has even HEARD of our symptoms before!! Aside from one European doctor, there is no documentation of POIS.

Unfortunately, it seems to be a very rare malady.
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« Reply #271 on: 29/01/2008 08:04:22 »
Do you project - subconsciously or consciously - your suffering on your partner after orgasm? Do you have negative feelings towards this person afterwards?

I believe there is a condition called post orgasmic anger disorder POAD (termed by me). This is a condition where a man gets very angry after orgasm. He feels he wants to hurt someone and often this anger is directed at the woman he is with. We have all heard of the man who kills his partner after sex. Historically these men have just been seen as bad people but neuro biologist need to look into this phenomena. These men need their own forum but many are probably in denial and dont want to talk about it.
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« Reply #272 on: 29/01/2008 21:29:14 »
hi bizzy

maybe
Do you project - subconsciously or consciously - your suffering on your partner after orgasm? Do you have negative feelings towards this person afterwards?

I believe there is a condition called post orgasmic anger disorder POAD (termed by me). This is a condition where a man gets very angry after orgasm. He feels he wants to hurt someone and often this anger is directed at the woman he is with. We have all heard of the man who kills his partner after sex. Historically these men have just been seen as bad people but neuro biologist need to look into this phenomena. These men need their own forum but many are probably in denial and dont want to talk about it.


hi bizzy

First of all, I would like to say that your posts are extremely interesting. Thanks!

Regarding the above: sorry, maybe I didn't express myself very well. It isn't a type of anger, or a feeling of violence. I don't feel threatened by it. It is more a lack of communication, sort of being ignored, since I am implicated in the suffering. I am told I am not to blame, which I essentially believe, and try to be supportive. Despite this, I find it hard to deal with, being on the receiving end of it. It passes, within a week or two, I am aware of that, but during the "episode" itself, I feel as if I am suffering almost as much as the actual sufferer.

Is there anything at all that can be done apart from waiting for it to pass? How do you men out there deal with your partners during these episodes?

Thanks a lot! I appreciate your honest views.

Interested.
 

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« Reply #273 on: 30/01/2008 06:13:16 »
Hi Interested

It seems your partner has POIS symptoms as described by others on this forum. Women tend to feel comfortable with attention so it is understandable why you feel like a victim.
I think this is a condition that somewhat responds to antidepressants. There are many different antidepressants on the market with many different side-effects. I recommend a tricyclic antidepressant called nortriptyline prescribed by your healthcare professional.
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« Reply #274 on: 31/01/2008 04:01:33 »


Hi all,

wonderful to see this thread so buoyant. I do hope that discusssion here somewhat leads to a resolution for you.

It's worth mentioning of course that any recommendation for a drug of any sorts requires discussion with your Doctor, whom I imagine would be the one to prescribe it anyway.
 

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