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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #325 on: 27/02/2008 01:13:07 »
Hi Demografx

Your life experience has been very much like mine. I too have struggled with depression eventually cycling through almost all the antidepressants. I too suffered early life childhood trauma which might have something to do with all this.
I think your psychiatrist is right about the cymbalta. It is probably playing a key-role in your recovery. I know that the nortriptyline is playing a key-role in my somewhat recovery. When I wasnt taking the medicine I was mentally very ill.
My experience with prozac in 1995 was the same as yours. It did something for me for about a week and then the side-effects got me. I couldnt continue the medicine.
I think the adderall is probably giving you an antidepressant effect using a mechanism with which you have to be careful.

Have you ever taken a low-dose tricylic antidepressant ?

Hi Bizzy,

Thanks for sharing your sensitive info with me. Never took a low dose tricyclic (I assume that's stuff like Tofranil, which worked for my dad back in the stone age of psychiatric meds).

You seem determined to warn/deter me from the Adderall. But I know you mean well. What can I say, it feels like my "savior". And once again, maybe with my depression and ADD (the latter is what it has been prescribed for) perhaps I need not worry about adverse effects? Also, the dose seems reasonable, I was only slightly euphoric (and fell asleep!) the first night I took it. I'll ask my new shrink this week.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #326 on: 27/02/2008 01:37:12 »
Hi All,

It's wonderful to see you all posting here and I hope this forum serves to assist you......even if it's just as a sounding board !

Demografx has asked me to just point out something he has seen regarding Levitra.Unfortunately he can't post at the moment.

 It's a post he read elsewhere on the net and although the nature of the post can not be substantiated he felt it prudent to let you all know that it's possible that Levitra can cause strokes in people who do not need to take it.

I think the moot point here is to always ask the chemist/pharmacist or get advice from a medical practitioner before starting a treatment.





Hi, everybody. I'm a bit concerned about people here at the POIS Forum possibly taking medicine into their own hands.

Such as DHEA. Or Levitra. And others.

So I think it worthwhile to post Neil's caveat once again, because it is worth repeating.

POIS can be a desperate condition. But let's not make it worse by going off the deep end and "borrowing" someone else's solution (including mine!) that may or may not be appropriate for your particular chemistry.

Best wishes, everyone!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #327 on: 27/02/2008 04:28:44 »
Thanks for sharing your sensitive info with me. Never took a low dose tricyclic (I assume that's stuff like Tofranil, which worked for my dad back in the stone age of psychiatric meds).
You seem determined to warn/deter me from the Adderall. But I know you mean well. What can I say, it feels like my "savior". And once again, maybe with my depression and ADD (the latter is what it has been prescribed for) perhaps I need not worry about adverse effects? Also, the dose seems reasonable, I was only slightly euphoric (and fell asleep!) the first night I took it. I'll ask my new shrink this week.

I am not trying to deter you from adderall at all. I think it is doing you good for the time being, just as you have explained. I was just stating that its a medicine that requires consideration. My advice would be not to stop it but use the minimum dose required.
Imipramine (tofranil) is not a stoneage medicine, though imipramine would not be my tricyclic of choice.
I think doctors and patients have been tricked by the pharmaceutical industry into thinking that the newer SSRI and SNRI class of antidepressants are an advancement in depression drug therapy.
I think cymbalta and venlafaxine might be slightly better than the SSRI's but not as good as low-dose tricyclic therapy.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #328 on: 27/02/2008 09:39:15 »
Hello, I'm new in this forum and I'm very interested in this topic.
I wish to know if a supplementary integration of L-Tyrosine in the morning and of DHEA after sex can effectively reduce the post orgasimic refractory period.What are the recommended doses ?thanks
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #329 on: 28/02/2008 18:30:20 »

I am not trying to deter you from adderall at all. I think it is doing you good for the time being, just as you have explained. I was just stating that its a medicine that requires consideration. My advice would be not to stop it but use the minimum dose required.
Imipramine (tofranil) is not a stoneage medicine, though imipramine would not be my tricyclic of choice.
I think doctors and patients have been tricked by the pharmaceutical industry into thinking that the newer SSRI and SNRI class of antidepressants are an advancement in depression drug therapy.
I think cymbalta and venlafaxine might be slightly better than the SSRI's but not as good as low-dose tricyclic therapy.

I said "warn/deter" and you were really more on the warning (CAUTION) side, which is good. I may have misinterpreted the caveats for something stronger, too.

I agree completely with you about "advancements," sometimes the "old" tricyclics work better than SSRI's. I shouldn't have said "stone age," what I meant is that drugs like Tofranil go way back in time when SSRI's weren't even on the drawing board.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #330 on: 28/02/2008 19:40:23 »
Hi all, I want to thank everyone for telling of their experiences. It was very reassuring to find information about this.
I am a female. My boyfriend is a man I love dearly and he has some of these symptoms...it apparently is more like extreme sadness for him and other mental symptoms which lasts for days. He has been having a lot of the flu symptoms and we have assumed he keeps getting bugs but I am wondering if its related to the possible pois. Also I am wondering if there are several versions of this problem depending on an individuals brain chemistry.

 He said he has had this problem ever since he could remember but it has gotten worse over the years.  we are in our 40's. There are some physical symptoms as well. We are investigating ways to manage the condition.
 
If a male goes without orgasm for more than several weeks at a time on a regular basis isn't there a concern about prostate health.  There is a technique that proctologists use called prostate massage or milking which is supposed to produce an event sort of like an orgasm but more of a calm draining of the prostate. We are still learning about it. Has anyone heard of this or had experience with it? I guess its something that can be done by oneself as well.

Also are there some safer herbs or supplements that are known to affect this in a positive way? he is currently on wellbutrin and prozac. thanks in advance for any feedback.   
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #331 on: 28/02/2008 19:46:57 »
There is so much useful information being discussed here. I suffer from the same symptoms and these symptoms have seriously marred my personal and professional life for the past 20 years. Thanks to this forum, I'm now beginning to do something about it.

Would it be profitable for visitors to this topic to have a frequently asked questions (FAQ) document? I was thinking it would be helpful to crystallize all this useful information discussed on this board into an easy to use reference document. How do you guys feel about this? Would anyone be interested to help put this together?
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #332 on: 29/02/2008 17:08:12 »
There is so much useful information being discussed here. I suffer from the same symptoms and these symptoms have seriously marred my personal and professional life for the past 20 years. Thanks to this forum, I'm now beginning to do something about it.

Would it be profitable for visitors to this topic to have a frequently asked questions (FAQ) document? I was thinking it would be helpful to crystallize all this useful information discussed on this board into an easy to use reference document. How do you guys feel about this? Would anyone be interested to help put this together?


EXCELLENT IDEA, Living30 !!
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #333 on: 29/02/2008 18:13:43 »
Hello!  I am a 25 year old male who has diarrhea and gas 5-10 minutes after orgasm (induced by intercourse or masturbation).  I also have a problem orgasming on "round two" if it's been less than an hour after my last orgasm (I would chalk this up to the basic male refractory period, however).  I've been all over the net and have found this thread.  I'd start to seek out a doctor for POIS right away, but I'm not sure if I have the same thing.  All of you describe these symptoms lasting for a few days, while mine happens right after and usually goes away a few hours later.  Does this sound like the same thing to you?

What you are describing most certainly is not POIS. It is most likely very normal and I would advise you to see a urologist.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #334 on: 29/02/2008 18:29:07 »
There is so much useful information being discussed here. I suffer from the same symptoms and these symptoms have seriously marred my personal and professional life for the past 20 years. Thanks to this forum, I'm now beginning to do something about it.

Would it be profitable for visitors to this topic to have a frequently asked questions (FAQ) document? I was thinking it would be helpful to crystallize all this useful information discussed on this board into an easy to use reference document. How do you guys feel about this? Would anyone be interested to help put this together?


EXCELLENT IDEA, Living30 !!

1. What is POIS?

POIS is a post orgasmic state of overall ill feeling. POIS take days to recover from. The second day however is always the heaviest.

The most charactistic symptom is the inability to think (brain fog). This may be described as fatigue, or feeling tired. Important to notice is that feeling tired and being tired are two different things. Some people during POIS feel tired and still have insomnia.

Secondary symptoms may include a tension type headache, difficulty concentrating, sometimes to the point of getting out of body experiences. Some people report feeling extremely hot or cold. Most often with transpiration. Also problems around the eyes have been reported.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #335 on: 01/03/2008 01:51:40 »

1. What is POIS?

POIS is a post orgasmic state of overall ill feeling. POIS take days to recover from. The second day however is always the heaviest.

The most charactistic symptom is the inability to think (brain fog). This may be described as fatigue, or feeling tired. Important to notice is that feeling tired and being tired are two different things. Some people during POIS feel tired and still have insomnia.

Secondary symptoms may include a tension type headache, difficulty concentrating, sometimes to the point of getting out of body experiences. Some people report feeling extremely hot or cold. Most often with transpiration. Also problems around the eyes have been reported.


imre1, THANK YOU FOR INITIATING!!!! :)
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #336 on: 01/03/2008 02:11:29 »
(A) For the answer to 1. What is POIS?

I would suggest adding to the very first POIS in the answer: [ POIS (Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome] is a post orgasmic state...)

(B) In the 3rd paragraph, I would suggest to change "getting" to "having" (an out of body experience)
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« Reply #337 on: 01/03/2008 08:25:30 »
Hi all, I want to thank everyone for telling of their experiences. It was very reassuring to find information about this.
I am a female. My boyfriend is a man I love dearly and he has some of these symptoms...it apparently is more like extreme sadness for him and other mental symptoms which lasts for days. He has been having a lot of the flu symptoms and we have assumed he keeps getting bugs but I am wondering if its related to the possible pois. Also I am wondering if there are several versions of this problem depending on an individuals brain chemistry.

 He said he has had this problem ever since he could remember but it has gotten worse over the years.  we are in our 40's. There are some physical symptoms as well. We are investigating ways to manage the condition.
 
If a male goes without orgasm for more than several weeks at a time on a regular basis isn't there a concern about prostate health.  There is a technique that proctologists use called prostate massage or milking which is supposed to produce an event sort of like an orgasm but more of a calm draining of the prostate. We are still learning about it. Has anyone heard of this or had experience with it? I guess its something that can be done by oneself as well.

Also are there some safer herbs or supplements that are known to affect this in a positive way? he is currently on wellbutrin and prozac. thanks in advance for any feedback.   

Hi Bossflambe

I think it is highly likely that his persistant flu symptoms are part of a POIS. I have learned from experience that POIS weakens and redirects the immune system.
There are slight variations of the POIS we are defining here but on the whole its very distinct. In other words the symptoms are very similar. I believe its an immune system and mood regulating protein thats causing the problem.
I dont know if there is a prostate risk if one avoids an orgasm. But what I do know is that many people world-wide do not orgasm for very long periods without any problems.
There are many herbs and supplements that can help improve the mood. Helping the mood is an important step forward. I dont think any of these herbs will make POIS go away.
Bupropion and Fluoxetine is a potent and potentially hazardous mix. I wonder how he is doing on that combination ?

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #338 on: 02/03/2008 05:21:44 »
imre1

FAQ: perhaps we should state that POIS has only been observed in men so far?
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #339 on: 03/03/2008 00:49:48 »
Hallo it is me again, the guy with the DHEA formula. Fist of all, I am completely against strong pills that interfere with body processes and are completely for health supplements.

Prescription pills like Prozac, Ritalin has helped me in the past, but it just messed up other systems in my body.

I am not a doctor, so I cannot give you the details of the dosages that you should use, but I will let you in on ecactly what I did in order to recover from this bloody problem after orgasms.

First of all, I was smoking cigarettes. I stopped last year August. That was done. Then I stopped drinking coffee at work, as our coffee at work is quite strong, and it messed up my sleep cycle. I basically did a detox of two weeks, to get rid of pathogens in the body like worms and stuff. You stop eating protein rich things for 2 weeks, and drink 1000mg MSM Methylsulfonylmethane each day. I drank a lot of water, and drank tea instead of coffee. It was a very bad 2 weeks, but not as bad as the decades of POIS!

Then the DHEA treatment started. The docter prescribed 90 25mg pills of DHEA to me. 2 pills (50mg) each morning I wake up with 1000mg L-Tyrosine on an empty stomach. I also take one pill of DHEA directly after sex, and only if it is 6 hours after the first dosage of the day (It has something to do with the hormonal cycles). Meaning if you wake up in the morning, and you take your DHEA dose, if you have sex after that, don't take DHEA immediately again.

It is South African branded I don't know if you get it in your country:
http://www.solaltech.com/new/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=5161 [nofollow]
http://www.solaltech.com/new/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=74 [nofollow]
http://www.solaltech.com/new/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=119 [nofollow]

After one month I switched to a safer DHEA supplement:
http://www.solaltech.com/new/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=6 [nofollow]

I also added two more health supplements in the morning to the tyrisone and herbal DHEA 7-Keto to further help me get rid of POIS:

-Siberian Ginseng (not called like this in the USA anymore)
-Phosphatidylserine (PS)
http://www.solaltech.com/new/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=93 [nofollow]

The whole trick of getting rid of POIS, is to decrease the constant release of Cortisol (Stress Hormone) and increase the release of DHEA (Sex Hormone). And then to take herbal supplements to maintain the correct balance. It takes time and patience, and although there are drugs out there like Ephedrine and Stimulants that immediately reduces cortisol, it is not the solution only part of a bigger problem being that you have a big hormonal imbalance problem.

Good luck and I hope I can make a change in your lives.
 

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« Reply #340 on: 03/03/2008 01:57:46 »
Hi hk1979,

Could you say a little more about how your DHEA, etc. program has improved your symptoms?  Are your POIS symptoms completely gone?
 

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« Reply #341 on: 03/03/2008 22:06:38 »
Hallo it is me again, the guy with the DHEA formula. Fist of all, I am completely against strong pills that interfere with body processes and are completely for health supplements.

Prescription pills like Prozac, Ritalin has helped me in the past, but it just messed up other systems in my body.

I am not a doctor, so I cannot give you the details of the dosages that you should use, but I will let you in on ecactly what I did in order to recover from this bloody problem after orgasms.

First of all, I was smoking cigarettes. I stopped last year August. That was done. Then I stopped drinking coffee at work, as our coffee at work is quite strong, and it messed up my sleep cycle. I basically did a detox of two weeks, to get rid of pathogens in the body like worms and stuff. You stop eating protein rich things for 2 weeks, and drink 1000mg MSM Methylsulfonylmethane each day. I drank a lot of water, and drank tea instead of coffee. It was a very bad 2 weeks, but not as bad as the decades of POIS!

Then the DHEA treatment started. The docter prescribed 90 25mg pills of DHEA to me. 2 pills (50mg) each morning I wake up with 1000mg L-Tyrosine on an empty stomach. I also take one pill of DHEA directly after sex, and only if it is 6 hours after the first dosage of the day (It has something to do with the hormonal cycles). Meaning if you wake up in the morning, and you take your DHEA dose, if you have sex after that, don't take DHEA immediately again.

It is South African branded I don't know if you get it in your country:
http://www.solaltech.com/new/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=5161 [nofollow]
http://www.solaltech.com/new/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=74 [nofollow]
http://www.solaltech.com/new/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=119 [nofollow]

After one month I switched to a safer DHEA supplement:
http://www.solaltech.com/new/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=6 [nofollow]

I also added two more health supplements in the morning to the tyrisone and herbal DHEA 7-Keto to further help me get rid of POIS:

-Siberian Ginseng (not called like this in the USA anymore)
-Phosphatidylserine (PS)
http://www.solaltech.com/new/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=93 [nofollow]

The whole trick of getting rid of POIS, is to decrease the constant release of Cortisol (Stress Hormone) and increase the release of DHEA (Sex Hormone). And then to take herbal supplements to maintain the correct balance. It takes time and patience, and although there are drugs out there like Ephedrine and Stimulants that immediately reduces cortisol, it is not the solution only part of a bigger problem being that you have a big hormonal imbalance problem.

Good luck and I hope I can make a change in your lives.

If you want to lower / regulate cortisol levels take a supplement called Relora/Retain 2. The herb in it reduces cortisol levels and increases dhea levels up too 200% via natural pathways.(Take blood test before and after too check the levels)

Anabolicminds.com is a great forum for people who have tried Relora/Retain too increase dhea levels and lower/regulate cortisol levels.


Some good news.

Ive been on H.R.T and having hormone and neurotransmitter blood tests since July/August last year.

My H.R.T protocol is  :

Testosterone cypionate at 28mg E2D schedule and 250ius of HCG E2D.

Dostinex 500mcg-1000mcg same day of release(Now Iam begining too taper off dostinex as I read before there has been studies that uses of dostinex can lead too heart valve problems but the study tested for doses at above 20000mcg taking every day non stop for parkinson disease patients.

I take only 500mcg-1000mcg 3-4 times a week so should be ok and so far no side effects.

Aromasin 10mgs E2D

5Htp 200-400mg ED 300mg after release due to Serotonin drop

Relora 750-1500mg ED too regulate cortisol levels especially the day after release and too keep Dhea levels at healthy range for my age 23

Gaba at 200-300mg a day due to low levels and drop after release

I take a supplement called Powerfull too increase hgh/igf-1 levels.It has been scientifically proven too increase hgh levels up too 221% in one dose.

I cycle on 1 month/1month off and then I inject Igf-1 20mcg E4D
for same cycle 1 month on 1 month off too increase my IGF-1 levels as it was low before but now it is in the healthy range :0)

I also take Reset Ad for adrenal fatigue due too years of taking simulants since age 16. This has really helped my energy levels and adrenal fatigue. You can check on anabolicminds.com forum and just about everyone who has taking this supplement has helped with their adrenal fatigue.

I take 200mg of Dim ED to convert the bad estrogens too good estrogen
(Improve Estrogen Bad - good ratio levels)

Its been around 4 weeks of constant no POSI symptoms and the following results :

Lost around 9 pounds in 4 weeks due to increase energy to train more. Body is much more muscular and lost around 3 inches of fat from my waist in 4 weeks. People have noticed it big time.

Training boxing, mma, circuit training twice a day. As active as i was
when aged 16 competing in Amateur boxing. Was also doing weights for a couple of weeks 5 times a week too see if my body would recover like it would when i was 16-18 when I had no POIS/adrenal fatigue/hormone imbalance problems. My body recovered no problem and thats when i knew my health was improving.

(Ive always training boxing workouts/drills since 16 but when POIS, adrenal fatigue and hormone imbalnce problems were at their worst I did not have much energy but still pushed myself too train at least twice a week but it was so dificult, felt like passing out sometimes and got really dizzy then would hit a big low after each training session. So I would question myself if training was really doing me any good but still kept pushing.

Libido gradually went from one release every 2 weeks
too 1 release every 2nd day now. I could easily have a release Ed if I wanted but I do train 2-3 hours every day too the point of fatigue and constantly trying too push myself. I want too improve my boxing/mma skills and also cardio, explosiveness etc Lastly too get ripped like when I was aged 16-18. I miss that build.

A POIS symptom :

I might get some slight inflamation to my eyes the day after release
but nothing major and only lasts 2-3 hours.

No more flu like symptoms, fatigue, migraines, sore bones, joints, back, legs muscles etc No more anxiety and overall nervousness. I Can socialise much better, seemed to have found my ole personailty back ie sense of humor, eye contact , poise, laughter/smile, timing, flirting/ wittiness etc

I waited around 4 weeks of constant results before posting too confirm consistency of my POIS.

Sometimes if i push myself abit too much the same day in training, say i do 30mins running/skipping or 15min sprinting drills and 60mins of mma in the morning then I do another 30mins of running/skipping  and say another 60mins of
boxing/mma in the evening and then if I have a release, I might notice the next day my energy isnt the same or its a little tougher too wake up :) but quickly picks up once I get into my morning training.

The best way too find out what hormones/neurotransmitters are imbalanced is go for a hormone/neurotransmitter blood test 2 days after release and then another test say 4-6 hours after just releasing.

You should see your test/dhea levels are lower, prolactin cortisol levels much higher. Also serotonin/dopamine/gaba levels should be much lower
4-6 hours after release or whenever it is when you feel the POIS are at its worst.

Any questions feel free to ask me. I know how hard it is too wake up everyday since aged only 21 with POIS symptoms and no matter who you are it effects your life big time so iam happy to help :0)


 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #342 on: 06/03/2008 14:51:40 »
Yes Dave23 is right on track. When you have POIS, the best thing to do is to check hormones and cortisol, and your doctor should direct you to the right prescriptions. Things like stimulants (coffee, ephedrine, ecstacy) might feel like it helps but it worsens.

To answer Guthrie's question, my POIS symptoms have not completely disappeared, but at least, if I measure myself on a weekly basis, I am getting better than I am getting worse (like it has been last year).

When I was a student in my early twenties I used to get a hold of ecstasy and viagra, and I could just have 5-10 orgasms overnight and it was fun, and things were going fine until I slept and woke up again. I felt horribly tired and exhausted.

But yes I will also look at Dave23's advise, and maybe we can put together a general treatment that will be able to help everyone. But don't expect relief from POIS within a month. Your body has to stabilise and it doesn't happen overnight if you are older than 30.

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« Reply #343 on: 06/03/2008 20:03:47 »
Do you think hormones and cortisol are affected by Levitra? It definitely works.
 

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« Reply #344 on: 06/03/2008 20:29:02 »
Yes Levitra helps for cholestrol, high blood pressure and diabetes, but it is a drug that causes chemical reactions in your body, to relief the symptoms of POIS but disturbs something else, meaning you can't take Levitra forever. On the other hand you can take supplements into your 80's.
 

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« Reply #345 on: 06/03/2008 20:56:34 »
I see no disturbance with Levitra, and only take a mild dose to aid dysfunction, which coincides with POIS timing. No reason to ever quit doing that. I think I simply got lucky.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #346 on: 06/03/2008 21:03:55 »
hk1979, are we talking about Levitra? The primary thing it's prescribed for is ED (erectile dysfunction), not as you say "cholesterol, high blood pressure and diabetes," although it works even for people with those conditions.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #347 on: 09/03/2008 05:30:12 »
It is like the intestine gets irritated because an abnormal mucus secretion on it. That produces a high constipation of the intestine, until almost get blocked. That intestine disorder make arise all other discomforts like to sweat, gases, acne, nervousism, tension, constipation, fatigue, depresion, irritation, alergic like sensation, pain in the shoulder muscles, appetite, bad breath, dilated pupils, watery eyes, headaches and hemorroides among others.
Emptying everything, cleaning as much as possible the whole bowel should get a big relief to all those inconveniences.
I donīt know why that abnormal mucus secretion occurs, but I am certain that mucus on the bowel and gases originates all the discomforts, in some way irritating the intestine walls, and this is reflected in the whole body.
The interesting thing would be encounter a cure to avoid that abnormal secretion.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #348 on: 09/03/2008 15:24:27 »
B_Jim: I have pois symthoms and investigating with my body found those statements. Im not a doctor or medic of any type, I am just one more POS affected and interested in the cure of those problems.
What Iīve been tested was with the help of bathroom bidet evacuating out the fecal matter as much  as possible. The improvements are striking.
But would be wonderfull find a solution to the roots of the problem, this is why there is a lack of something when POS.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #349 on: 11/03/2008 17:09:14 »
i was thinking that i am the only male in the world who have this problem,
until today, by luck i have found this thread.
the bad think about this P.O.I.S  is that doctors do not know what you are talking about, i am now 54 years old, who suffer too much from this problem, but this problem does not appear until i was about 30 years old, i remember that when i was a young that sometimes i masturbate three times or more in a one day without suffering from any illness.
but at 30 years old my suffering last only a one day, and after many years it is extended to two days after orgasm, and after many years it is extended to 3 days, and now i need 4 days to resort to a normal.
my main suffering is from the black halo around my eyes, and it is very clear, and this is a very embarrassing , as i am wearing a long Hat with a flag on it; hello people look at me. very annoying state.
i have found that any calming medicine such as the valium like medicine will reduce the illness symptoms, but as a law i must live a whole 4 days until i reliefed completely. the worst black halos around the eyes is in the third day, and not the first day.
i think that ejaculating the sperm is as making a wound in the body, most the people will be reliefed within hours, since they will compensate what they lose, but the miserable people like me will wait 3-4 days until some strange cells (may be in the brain ) will cooking the chemicals neccessary for the new formation of sperm, what a fuckin life!!, sometimes i be very very angry from this status.
for you the people with this bad luck, do not go to doctors, they will not benefit you in this case, you have no big stone in your kidney, nor an evident blood clot, so keep your money, until some medical researcher who will by chance suffer from this syndrome, will focus his research to solve the most annoying illness in the world. i hope this thread will continue to live as an unofficial site for the "Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome", so we can continue to look at what the other people do to this problem.
by the way i have no tonsils, no uvula, due to a surgery when i was 4 years old. when i was thinking that i am the only person in the world who have this illness i was convinced that the lacking of uvula and tonsils may be somehow the case of my problem, but now, and in reality exactly today i have changed my mind unless half the people who suffer from this illness have no tonsils.
and an advice to the medicine factories, why not manufaturing a medicine to relief the symptoms of this illness, i am sure that millions will consume that medicine, even the normal people.
and to the doctors who said that this is normal: yes this is normal if the symptoms last at most one day , but not 3 to 4 days or more.
and to a brave writer who want to make million dollars, just write a public book with a title: "Post Orgasmic Illness"  without the word "Syndrome" and you will see if a 5 million copies will be sold. especially if the book have pictures like my eyes before orgasm, and my eyes after 3 days.
to "solution" : your research deserve respect, but it is very hard to clean out completely the intestine, the best solution is to invent some medicine which will dissolved such a mucus secretion, and if that mucus secretion is the case of the illness then a study to its chemical structure may pave the way to a cure. or may be this mucus secretion prohibit the manufacturing of neurotransmitters in the brain?? so needs a more experiments with multiview points in diverse directions.
personally i think it is from the brain, the brain lose neurotransmitters or can't manufacturing it due to strange factor happened after losing sperm and other liquids during orgasm, this is because all my illness in my brain neighborhood:
halos around the eyes, deep sleep, can't focus, memory problems... .
happy living for all

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