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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5325 on: 22/08/2009 10:09:07 »
Hi everyone.  Just found this forum and have been reading this thread for hours.  Have been suffering from POIS probably from mid-teens.  I have mostly suffered from the cognitive symptoms and lethargy.  I really should go through and read all the posts first before I post, but I am quite excited and it might take a couple days to get through all the pages of posts.  POIS has definitely affected my life, ruined relationships, and influenced my philosophical outlook.  A common pattern was for me to not be in a relationship, feeling good and confident, go "out on the hunt" for women, find one, and then it is great at first. Then when the sex gets consistent I would lose interest in being with the person, feel more and more depressed, anhedonistic, and eventually I would leave the relationship.  In retrospect, I can clearly see how it was simple biochemistry causing all this, but I really thought something was wrong with me.  I have thought a thousand times that my life would be far improved to just be celibate.  I have practiced non-orgasmic and non-ejaculative sex from the Taoist/Tantric traditions with some success, but if I don't practice the muscle control exercises with intense determination and frequency I eventually slip up and orgasm and then I fall down the hole again.  I know that if I could just not orgasm that it would be fine.   When I do successfully practice non-orgasming sex, there are unwelcome side effects including congestion in the plumbing, pain in the lower abdomen, etc. which can be somewhat abated by practicing prostate self-massage.  I don't feel back to normal for up to a week or more sometimes after I orgasm.

 I am really amazed that it is all this simple.  I found this forum by searching "Why do I feel depressed after sex?"  I used to get even more depressed when I came because I thought I was losing vital energy, as the tantric/taoist systems of thought believe.  But those beliefs also didnt make logical sense....it makes much more sense now that I have read some of this thread. 

Guess I will start by listing some of my health issues which are possibly related to POIS:

-Age 33, caucasian
-Diagnosed ADHD, social anxiety disorder, mild paranoia, mild schizophrenia, chronic mild-moderate depression since early teens and probably before.
-Lactose intolerant AND lab verified allergies to all milk products (High IgG allergic reaction to casein, cheeses, milk/goat milk, whey, yogurt; moderate IgE reaction to whey, high IgE reaction to milk and cottage cheese)
-History of chronic low back pain since mid-teens
-History of traumatic sexual experiences in childhood, early sexual experiences, shame & guilt over sexuality/masturbation during youth
-Lifelong history of insomnia
-History of poor nutrition growing up, diets high in simple carbs/sugars, excessive ratios of carbs to fat and protein
-History of poor exercise habits growing up; poor core musculature control
-Diagnosed with chronic abacterial prostatitis around age 23...still have excessive urge to urinate, wake up 1-2x/night to urinate (used to be worse)
 
Saw this chart on a few posts, will try to rate my experience, although this is hard because it varies depending on frequency of sex, nutrition habits, etc. 

Overall symptoms
-Physical tiredness : 2
-Mental tiredness: 2-3
-Lethargy/Derealisation: 3-4
-Lack of concentration/Brain fog: 2-4
-Sweating and heat feelings: 0
-Cold feelings/cold hands/cold body: 2-3
-Myalgias: ??
-Anxiety 3-5
-Depression 3-4
-Agoraphobia/Social phobia: 3-5
-Not motived: 1-5
-Memory problems: 1-3
-Difficult to speak/communication: 2-5
-Insomnias/sleep problems : 3-5
-Headaches 1-3
-Stomach aches: 0
-Restless/agitation: 2-5
-Blurred vision: 1
-Buzzing ears/tinnitus: 1-3
-Dizziness: 0
-Muscle tremors: 0-1 
-Diarrhoea: 0-2
-Hair problems: ?? lifelong dandruff
-Mouth problems:  0
-Skin problems: 0-1 dry skin
-Eyes problems: blurry vision, feeling of pressure, floaters, blue flashes of light
-Short breathing 0
-Premature Ejaculation: 0-5
-Sexual pain after sex: usually only after long or intense sessions
-Erection problems: occasionally...have slight Peyronie's disease
-Libido problems: 0-4

Very excited to try out some of the suggestions I have found so far.  Definitely going to cut the milk out as I should have long ago...has anyone else had a food allergy test?  I have been taking Wellbutrin for a few months and have noticed some mild improvement in post-orgasmic symptoms.  Also used to take Effexor and Cymbalta at various times and was able to have sex to orgasm more often. 

I am really interested in the relationship between prolactin/dopamine and finding a way to avoid extreme spikes of prolactin.  Are there any prolactin antagonists out there?

Glad to have found this site!
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5326 on: 22/08/2009 17:55:24 »
Welcome to the forum! I have tried Cabergoline which is supposed to suppress prolactin production http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabergoline without much success, however since I purchased it from an internet pharmacy I don't feel 100% confident that it was genuine medication. Would be interesting to see if other people had more success with it!

My current anti-POIS regime is 50mg of DHEA and 500mg of Solgar Fenugreek when I wake up. It helps me get out of POIS much more quickly, and really assists with the problems with socialising with others that POIS can bring about.

The newly created POIS website has a good summary of the different remedies people have found for POIS http://sites.google.com/site/poiswebsite/. Make sure you clear them with your doctor first though  :)
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5327 on: 22/08/2009 19:13:02 »


"Some experts believe that individuals who may be allergic to histamines are deficient in a certain enzyme that breaks down the histamines. That deficiency, combined with alcohol, can cause headaches.

That is interesting, beause I developped an intolerance to alcohol where the symptoms were very similar to POIS especially the pain in neck and shoulders.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5328 on: 22/08/2009 20:15:02 »

That is interesting, beause I developped an intolerance to alcohol where the symptoms were very similar to POIS especially the pain in neck and shoulders.

Same with me

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5329 on: 22/08/2009 22:04:57 »

CrazyFox, welcome to the POIS thread of The Naked Science Forum!




Here are some POIS resources which may be helpful to you:

Our new POIS Information Website is here:
http://sites.google.com/site/poiswebsite/

Please see "B_Jim"'s POIS Summary of All Cases, here as well as others on the Web. This includes remedies that we have tested, and results.
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg149009#msg149009

"Girlwind" has created an excellent POIS Video:

And filling out the POIS survey created by "Counterpoints" will enable you to share POIS information and details with others here. This will also enable us to work more easily with outside researchers by having more organized data available about us:
http://pois.olympe-network.com/

POIS Research Study

We have a copy of the first and only study on POIS by Dr. Marcel Waldinger,MD and Dr. David Schweitzer, MD.

If you want a copy (PDF), send me a Private Message with your regular email address and I'll send you back the PDF.

To send a Private Message, click on "Messages" at the top of this page. At the Messages page, click on "New Message". From that point on, it works just like posting a message here, except that it only goes to the person(s) you designate.

Remember to put a quote around my name, i.e., "demografx".


New York Times article,

January 20, 2009
Mind
Sex and Depression: In the Brain, if Not the Mind
By RICHARD A. FRIEDMAN, M.D.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/health/views/20mind.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=friedman%20sexual%20January%2020&st=cse

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In addition to serving our own informational interests, the resources listed above can be useful for you to show the medical world - which often shows little understanding and is sometimes skeptical of our condition - that POIS has scientific underpinnings and that POIS is not "just another psychological problem" related to sex - to be treated by the psychiatric/psychotherapist community. This can help fight the immediate reaction of some: IT'S NOT "ALL IN OUR HEADS"!

Also, it can be helpful when dealing with medical professionals to point out the successful existence of our rapidly growing forum for over 2 years, which has attracted over 100 POIS sufferers worldwide who have posted here, plus more than 350,000 page visits. Not bad for a rare malady!
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5330 on: 22/08/2009 22:07:35 »


CrazyFox, this post might help you find information about POIS that we have already discussed, by tailoring a Google search to this forum:


SEARCH THE FORUM WITH GOOGLE

We have an overwhelming amount of data: over 2 years' worth of posts from 150+ Forum members, and an additional 150 POIS sufferers found on the Internet, but not on this forum.

In the Google search box, type
whatever-it-is-you're-interested-in-finding-out[space]POIS[space]site:http://www.thenakedscientists.com/

for example, I tried
demografx POIS site:http://www.thenakedscientists.com/

and 1,000+ results came up for "demografx" within the Forum.

be careful with spaces (you can use them before the word "site") and no-spaces (everything after the word "site")

Google even provides you results with the Message# for each result. But Message #'s do change, so be patient and look for the approximate Message#.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5331 on: 22/08/2009 22:17:38 »

B_Jim, would my high glucose relate to your findings? This blueberry treatment has given me Blueberry Craving Syndrome!!
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5332 on: 22/08/2009 22:30:22 »
Hello my fellow POIS patients. I live in South Africa and masturbated a lot since age 9, and by age 12 it really became a problem. I had a lot of acne, and after ejaculation will have an almost oily skin texture. I was an athlete and found that orgasms also made me tired and short of breath. I became sexually active with partners at age 19.

I could not keep up with the demands of my girlfriends, and could never understand when I read in magazines that some couples do it a few times a day and a few days a week, plus they are feeling great.

I also did a lot of research, and found it has to do with hormonal imbalances.

Specifically the deficiency of DHEA is causing the problems. I found that by taking 50mg of DHEA after sex, and also a protein supplement called L-Tyrosine in the mornings, significantly reduces the symptoms.

Please consult your doctors about this, try it for yourselves and get back to me.

You will find that DHEA production is at its peak during puberty (when we start to masturbate), and decline rapidly after age 20 (when we really feel the effects of POIS).

I assume ejaculation / orgasm has something to do with blocking DHEA.

Cheers and good luck!


DHEA

what chemical is that exactly ???
 

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« Reply #5333 on: 23/08/2009 03:23:45 »

DHEA
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/dhea/NS_patient-dhea

wooder, care to tell us about your POIS?
 

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« Reply #5334 on: 23/08/2009 05:56:16 »
Thanks for the welcome everyone.

Saw that one potential issue in POIS is overproduction of cortisol...if that is the case, some of you may be interested in this product:

newbielink:https://www.emersonecologics.com/Products/EmersonMain/PID-CM30.aspx [nonactive]

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« Reply #5335 on: 23/08/2009 07:29:22 »
I remember reading somewhere that orgasm leads to a downregulation of testosterone receptors in the brain and conversely that going without orgasm will lead to an upregulation in testosterone receptors.  Testosterone not only controls libido and sexual appetite, it also can create feelings of positive mood state and confidence.  Keep in mind that if the receptors in the brain are downregulated, you can have normal testosterone levels in the blood, but the testosterone will not bind to the receptors in the brain, thus you wont feel as happy.....bodybuilders who use large amounts of testosterone related substances often become addicted to the high, this is quite verified in the literature.

Given this, I think it is simply imperative not to orgasm frequently as a general rule for most people.  People have known this for thousands of years in cultured all over the world.  Look up 'Karezza' and similar practices.

I see some people in this site who are looking for a chemical or herbal fix to the problem of POIS, but keep in mind that you have to work on all fronts and not just look for the quick fix.  If you dont have the control not to orgasm, then you must gain it by  exercising the musculature that controls the penis.  It is a simple thing to do when you are driving, sitting, lying down, etc.  There are plenty of descriptions of the types of exercises on the internet.  I once did the practices solidly for 3-4 months and I did certainly gain the ability to have sex for hours and I only came when I decided to - they work and there is no doubt about it in my mind.  The only downfall I noticed was congestion in the prostate and probably the vas deferens.  Self prostate massage worked well for this. 
 

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« Reply #5336 on: 23/08/2009 12:38:21 »
Hello.  Just checking in.  I NE'd last night and that NE just reminded me that I have POIS.  I was in a terrible mood all day, and had to work at a wedding for 11 hours off of 4 hours of sleep.  Possibly the worst day of my life.

I want to know if anybody experiencing POIS symptoms without orgasm but just with little sleep.

I thought my candida cure had worked... but sadly not yet.  Come to think of it I still am eating as many sugars as I did a while ago.  Maybe I should stop that.

Also,  John21,  are you still non-POiS ?
 

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« Reply #5337 on: 23/08/2009 17:03:45 »
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Also,  John21,  are you still non-POiS

Yes, I have had more NEs and still zero symptoms. I'm still eating my yogurt/blueberry/cranberry treat daily. I still don't know what is helping me but something in that mix is my best guess.

I have been experimenting with fish oils to help with anxiety, hoping to chip away at sleep issues. So far my mood has improved but sleep hasn't been affected. I have also tried Rhodiola, which was recently mentioned on the forum. It definitely has a relaxing psychoactive effect, although with my sleep issue I have to be careful with any substance, I plan on experimenting more with small amounts of it over time. The brand is Natural Factors 150mg (3.5% total rosavin).
 

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« Reply #5338 on: 23/08/2009 17:33:54 »
Anything else for your dietary changes? Are you not eating sugar? on some sort of diet?  Changed sleeping habits?

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« Reply #5339 on: 23/08/2009 17:40:13 »
Yet again I just O'd at 7 o'clock,  felt POIS, slept until 12 and then O'd and experienced no POIS.  I noticed in between I felt a "good" feeling in my head, as the POIS was going away.  Maybe that is something to think about.
 

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« Reply #5340 on: 23/08/2009 18:06:34 »
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Anything else for your dietary changes? Are you not eating sugar? on some sort of diet?  Changed sleeping habits?

Nothing else, I'm not big into sweets but I do eat some sugar, I have honey on toast twice daily.

 

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« Reply #5341 on: 23/08/2009 18:54:30 »
From my research yesterday, I noticed Amine oxidase (copper-containing) breaks down histamine. Wasn't cure if taking copper would help, until I ran across this book this morning:

http://books.google.com/books?id=YFJRD_lrkpwC&pg=PA232&lpg=PA232&dq=diamine+oxidase+copper&source=bl&ots=wiqng9stIt&sig=v_vOLzclVz0kuYEW3l243Oibfas&hl=en&ei=wX2RSsrDAoqcMPWf8JEK&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=diamine%20oxidase%20copper&f=false

Scroll down to bottom of page 232

"Two copper supplementation studies demonstrated that the activity of serum diamine oxidase (DAO) another cuproenzyme, increases when supplements containing 2mg (Jones, et al, 1997) and 6mg (Keho et a;, 2000) of copper were administered daily, a result that suggests the enzyme may be sensitive to increased dietary copper."

Alright, Im headed to the store to grab a copper supplement right now. Yesterday I O'd as part of a research of the affects of legal amphetamines (Adderall, Dexedrine, of which I am prescribed) on POIS symptoms . (first O in such a long time..... years....  ugh... makes me want to chop meh @#$!$ off) and the results of the amphetamines on POIS brain fog so far are (concentration: somewhat affective, memory recall: no effect, lethargic symptoms: no affect, physical discomfort symptoms: somewhat affective, heat/cold aversion: somewhat effective, POIS induced anxiety: somewhat effective) I can still feel POIS brain fog rearing it's ugly head, but it doesn't seem to be bothering me as much. I'm thinking it's just helping "mask" POIS, not having a directly positive effect on it.

Tomorrow is a work day tho, so I'll have a better idea of it's effectiveness in a fast-paced work environment where concentration is greatly needed.
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« Reply #5342 on: 23/08/2009 18:57:48 »
well hi all I am pretty new here and wondered, as this is a new thing for me at 35, whether in the past its has effected me in a more minor way

guess I have over masturbated since my teens

had a handful of girlfreinds and think I may have noticed this in a very minor way before but not like recently

I had a kundalini awakening 9 years ago and recently that seems to have vanished

recently had a distant healing, froma  guy called Allan Sweeney

when I related the loss in energy and of blood to my face having masturbated, he explained that he could never ejaculate as he lost too much energy and i think he was talking about it in much more aura/chakras/lifeforce chi type way

I am sure many chinnese dudes have said for a while that over doing it is not good for ya, depsite the western apporach

well lifeforce chi/aura is ceratinly how it feels for me

masturbated twice last week( after having the distant healing)

since then I have have felt tearful, depressed, irrtaibel anxious, my legs and body weak and my hands, and feet particularly sensetive and jittery

I feel life has lost it's spark and kinda flat emotionally

energetically I almost feel like I have been garrotted in the base chakra of energy

and to think after 9 years of not dating for other kundalini related reasons, I was hoping to date again, which seems now like yet another pain

I am waiting to begin a job working in the mental health field, working with people who suffer with schizpohrenia so the last thing, I can afford is, severely depleted energy, weakness and feeling listless

I am choked and at the moment, don't see a soloution as I am aware of much of the eastern , thought on this , regarding semen loss= chi loss , which regulate the chakras and all vital organs

I guess I could try the tantra method and still try and have fun

last time I ejaculated was wenesday and I still don't feel quite right
 

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« Reply #5343 on: 23/08/2009 20:04:34 »
Hey Wooder,

I also had a kundalini awakening about 10 years ago and believed that I was losing vital essence once...but now I feel differently...I really think after much research into both western and eastern belief systems that this is truly a psychological/biochemical occurence and that the eastern people didnt have the scientific knowledge at the time so they created a different model that worked well enough, but logically, the body produces semen all the time, so semen loss isn't the cuplrit, it is orgasm that creates a biological shift....see sites like: newbielink:http://www.reuniting.info/science/sex_and_addiction [nonactive]

I have noticed negative mood shifts since I first started masturbating around age 9 or so (in retrospect).   I have also had times even recently when I orgasmed and there was no POIS....apparently my brain chemicals remained more stable, perhaps due to have eaten just the right foods at the time or having had just the right attitude.

I really believe that guilt plays a huge role in this thing....when I was a kid and my mother told me it was bad to masturbate I had guilt from that..I think that the continual cycle of lust, followed by sexual release, followed by guilt created specific nervous connections in my brain which resulted in a pathway developing which caused depression and all the other stuff...when I was over the guilt from that after realizing that my mother was a fool, it took a while to undo that pathway.  Even after that issue was resolved there was still some post-orgasm mood changes worthy of note ad I think that is just the natural effect as discussed on that link above.  Then when I started getting heavily into eastern thought, reading that I was losing vital essence produced another guilt complex...I believed I was being 'spiritually inmature' and undisciplined and losing my chi like you did and this created more pathways over time (years) where I would hate myself for being weak and losing chi because I couldnt control my urges...so the POIS was way worse simply from my belief that I was screwing up....After much research into western knowledge database I no longer believe in the wasting vital essence theory, instead I believe that it is simply a series of complex biochemical shifts causing the feelings of lethargy, depression, etc.  When I truly backed away from the fear that I was losing life energy, the POIS definitely decreased permanently.  I think that even the fear of the POIS symptoms could create a post-orgasm stress reaction increasing cortisol and defeating any kind of positive afterglow.  Mental attitude has a strong effect....Thoughts have the power to create energy, affect your biochemistry.  If you think that you are doing wrong to yourself from orgasming, then you will increase negative effects accordingly...extremely spiritual people are by nature extra sensative to feelings - more in tune with subtle energies....it is my belief that the old Taoist masters and Tantric masters and so forth did note the natural change in brain chemistry, note the tiredness and change in emotionality, the reduction in positive feelings, and they assumed it was a loss of life energy.  This simply created an even bigger issue.

There are many famous Taoist masters who died in their 80s...there are many normal westerners and europeans who lived by western standards, who compared to the eastern practitioners lived lives of excess and certainly overindulged in sex who lived into their 100s...it was because they didnt believe it was an issue that it didnt cause them to feel stressed out or feel guilt.

Now I am not saying that there ISN'T a negative effect from orgasming, there is...but once you realize it is just a natural shift and will recover, alot of that stress goes away...you just have to deal with feeling tired, etc. for some days...

I see some people on this site who have extremely horrible symptoms when coming. They are the extreme side of the bell curve...their balance is off for whatever reason...the very thought of orgasm probably automatically produces a rise in stress hormones...and if they actually orgasm I am sure that the effects are compounded by the expectation of what is to come afterwards.  Placebo effect works both ways, you can believe the sugar pills will do something good and they will do more good than they would have if you didnt have that belief, or you can believe they will harm you and you will create stress and harm from the belief systems....Where belief and thought goes, energy goes, and chemistry is energy and you will co-create a reality.  I am just saying that its time for you to choose a better belief system so you dont harm yourself when its not necessary.

I am sure that Mantak Chia will live for a long time...but I bet that there is some old French guy somewhere for example who is drinking his coffee and eating his croissants who is 110 years already and has never done a single microcosmic orbit exercise who will outlive Mantak Chia...

Ever heard of Occam's Razor?  It's a model that says that the simplest explanation is usually the true one...to me it is much more simple that the post-orgasm effects are natural ways for the animal to maintain homeostasis and possibly insures that there will be more genetic diversity.  Some people's systems just become more unbalanced is all.

Losing life essence?  Not in my book.   I believed it for 10 years +  now I am over it...

 

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« Reply #5344 on: 24/08/2009 01:25:33 »
John for how many weeks have you being doing that beautiful mix of your. 

I think it might be that cranberry because of its antioxidant power.  the am reading on chronic fatigue, really emphazies an antioxiant called pycogenol, may that is it.


Martin 88, have you ever noticed blureed vision because that is one of the symptoms of pitiutary extra growth.
 

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« Reply #5345 on: 24/08/2009 01:41:33 »
To everyone who talks about blurry vision and "stuff" in your eyes, is there any physical substance that you can touch, or does it feel like it's actually in your eyes. For me, I can't touch it or anything, but when I rub my eyes, I can see everything a little bit clearer, and then it sets back in...
 

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« Reply #5346 on: 24/08/2009 03:17:30 »
Dean93,  my blurry vision seemed to start off where I would have it all day and I would rub my eyes and not touch anything.    Now the vision is only bad in the morning, and this I can actually "rub" away some yellow build up. 

I really think this may have to do with hormonal balancing.

When I "O", I have the bad feeling take over, and when I sleep, the good feeling takes over.  It has to do something with neurotransmitters and hormones.  I don't know about candida because this wouldn't happen.

Plus a few days ago I was overloading with sugars and sweets and that did not bother me at all, it is only when I "O" that I experience all the bad symptoms for a day or two, whenever I get a good nights sleep it goes away.

John21, thanks for your info. I have another question.   Do you ever "O" on your own and how many NE's did it take for you to feel non-POIS?  How long was that?
 

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« Reply #5347 on: 24/08/2009 03:24:28 »
Dean93,  my blurry vision seemed to start off where I would have it all day and I would rub my eyes and not touch anything.    Now the vision is only bad in the morning, and this I can actually "rub" away some yellow build up. 


Sorry to ask too many question GC, but are you saying that you can rub the yellow stuff off and see it on your finger?
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5348 on: 24/08/2009 03:25:56 »
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I think anhedonia is a great way to describe the way I feel during POIS. I'm sure alot of other sufferers would agree.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5349 on: 24/08/2009 04:21:57 »
Dean93,  my blurry vision seemed to start off where I would have it all day and I would rub my eyes and not touch anything.    Now the vision is only bad in the morning, and this I can actually "rub" away some yellow build up. 


Sorry to ask too many question GC, but are you saying that you can rub the yellow stuff off and see it on your finger?

Yes, I can actually see it on my fingers now.  About 2 months ago i would have blurry vision almost 24/7 and when I rubbed my eyes either nothing would be shown on my finger or a clear substance which may have been the fluid in my eyes.  No problem with the questions I ask a lot too.
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