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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5475 on: 03/09/2009 12:45:52 »
has anyone tried accupuncture to increase their depleted chi

I am thinking of going for a consultation
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5476 on: 03/09/2009 12:50:00 »
I was going to update on cranberries
concentration - better still needs some help, still way better than pois
memory/recall  - imporoved but still lagging but way better than pois
fatigue - totally gone/ day 2 is my worst day in pois and today i woke up good (9hrs sleep) lifted weights for an hour and played basket ball for 30mins and pinpong for 1hr 30 mins and felt fantastic.
cognition - improved alot. but not there yet
socialization - simple i cracked jokes, never happens in pois. 
mood - fantastic

Overall cranberry might be where i am putting my money. I will say 70-80% improvement.


i bought a carton the other day and drank it over 2-3 days and found I had no fever, or sweating this time and generally felt better

I also have been swallowing a garlic clove a day and using crystals oon the kidneys, which is where I think the yang imbalance of chi is located

feel better than last week
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5477 on: 03/09/2009 12:56:11 »


Socialization

OK, I'm going to add my 2 cents worth of amateur psychology here. :)

I think we've been conditioned heavily by Western society to be social animals.

One estimate puts the "socializing" population at 75%, and the "loner" population at 25%. The majority 75% have somehow pressured the minority - intentionally or unconsciously - to believe that preferring to read a book is somehow inferior to hanging with friends.

Personally, I've been feeling much better by looking at this balance of socialization vs. independent-pursuits more closely. Just thought I'd share that with you since the issue comes up often in relation to POIS effects.

I completely agree Demo.  I think Americans talk like they have two mouths and one ear.

However, in POIS I feel completely unsocial.  My personality becomes different and I am less social and can't think through social situations.  It seems social situations require understanding and empathy to build relationships but in POIS I feel apathy (no emotion).  It's almost impossible to connect.

Yes me too, feel very anti-social during POIS times, very withdrawn and ZERO ambition!

Just bought cranberry extract pills to try also, anything for science :-)

PS.


the comments you made on lack of emotion(apathy)

I so recognise what you mean

and also zero ambition
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5478 on: 03/09/2009 18:45:14 »
has anyone tried accupuncture to increase their depleted chi

I am thinking of going for a consultation

I don't think chi causes all of this havoc.  Like my doctor said the other day "everyone does it"  ...  orgasm, that is.  It is some disease and most of my friends "did it" more than me and they feel fine.  I just don't buy that "chi" energy.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5479 on: 03/09/2009 22:57:45 »
Chi and acupuncture

My 2 cents worth again. I pursued "chi" philosophy, and acupuncture, and acupressure for years with no results.

I would like to keep an open mind. But I would need some powerful evidence.

I tried acupuncture when I couldn't move and orthopedic surgeons couldn't recommend anything, and I believed that I got "astonishing, miraculous" results. But in retrospect, I'm sure it was all a giant placebo effect. I continue to have the back problem, and I simply need to 'work through it' when it seems "paralyzing".

The last straw for me was when an acupuncturist "zapped" the wrong spot (a nerve I think) - more than once - and sent me jumping in terror. He apologized. He wasn't feeling well.

I did see a favorable study on acupuncture with another medical problem, and my physician said "why not?, it can't hurt". It seemed like a credible move, but the last incident made me gunshy. So I do admit my prejudices. :)

I sincerely encourage anyone to report their positive "chi" and/or acupuncture/acupressure experiences! (or negative ones)
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5480 on: 04/09/2009 01:34:24 »

Testosterone update

My endo agreed today to let me try a 50% increase in testosterone. Since the first 12 hours of POIS are still not wonderful, I've experimented with upping the dose just for that period, and it seemed to work. Now I'll try it 24/7. Will let you know.
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« Reply #5481 on: 04/09/2009 04:21:03 »

Testosterone update

My endo agreed today to let me try a 50% increase in testosterone. Since the first 12 hours are still not wonderful, I've experimented with upping the dose just for that period, and it seemed to work. Now I'll try it around the clock. Will let you know.

If your skin starts turning green and your muscles start ripping out of your shirt please tell me.   [:I]
 

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« Reply #5482 on: 04/09/2009 06:10:57 »

No...I'll tell everybody.  :)
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5483 on: 04/09/2009 06:11:18 »
Demo: Your story reminds me of the time I was seeing a chiropractor 3x week. Hs receptionist called me to cancel the next weeks appointments.  The reason given was he was going to be out with a bad back.

One observation:
POIS seemed to be worse when I Orgasm after eating a lot  than when I ate very little.  Not sure if there is a connection
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5484 on: 04/09/2009 06:20:27 »

Demo: Your story reminds me of the time I was seeing a chiropractor 3x week. Hs receptionist called me to cancel the next weeks appointments.  The reason given was he was going to be out with a bad back.


Haha! That was great!!!  Thanks for that.  ;D   :D   ;D
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5485 on: 04/09/2009 06:22:59 »

One observation:
POIS seemed to be worse when I Orgasm after eating a lot  than when I ate very little.  Not sure if there is a connection


Very interesting! Anyone else have a similar connection?

Post-POIS digestive disturbances have been reported, so it's not surprising.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5486 on: 04/09/2009 06:26:03 »

GC, if that doesn't work, I'll try a cranberry patch instead of a T-patch.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5487 on: 04/09/2009 20:12:13 »

B_Jim, I wholeheartedly concur with your wish to not test NEUROGASM  ;D It did _nothing_ for me, but it was...tasty.

Science will simply have to wait for proper NEUROGASM testing!

B_Jim, if I want to augment my testosterone with cranberries or blueberries, how much daily would you recommend to try? I asked my endocrinologist, and he said, "I need more data" :)

 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5488 on: 05/09/2009 02:23:05 »

I just joined the FCC (Forum Cranberry Club), with 1,000 mg of concentrate, also known as Vaccinium macrocarpon. The fancy Latin justifies the $17.00 price for 90 caps I presume. From GNC, who suggests 6 caps/day. I'm at Day Zero + 8 hours.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5489 on: 05/09/2009 05:05:18 »
Just O'd guys.  Right now i feel the best feeling in the world. no pois.   awesome feeling of calmness.  best feeling i've felt in years.  like i've said, all that bothers me now is the fog in my frontal lobe... seems to be lifting every day.  One thing that i did differently was take benadryl a couple of hours ago.  Don't know if that contributed to this awesome feeling or what.  Just giving every possible piece of information here.
 

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« Reply #5490 on: 05/09/2009 18:16:37 »
O'd a few more times just to make sure.  Weird though, my brain fog went away.  Maybe these chemicals being released are actually making its way to my frontal lobe now?  Or maybe whatever is in that part of my brain moved when I O'd?  I don't know.  I feel no POIS now.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5491 on: 05/09/2009 21:25:17 »
does anyone get colder hands and feet after Oing

and are natural cranberries recomended over the concenrtrate juice
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5492 on: 06/09/2009 01:32:05 »
concentrate 100% is basically cranberries without the water.
 i will recommend getting standardized cranberry extract because that is actuall cranberries and not chemical extracts.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5493 on: 06/09/2009 10:33:33 »
I would just like to add that to make the concentrate juice, the cranberries are probably heated in which case some nutritional properties may be lost.

Fiber and cranberry skin nutrients are probably lost too if you consume only juice. I have no idea if this makes a difference. I had some whole frozen cranberries recently and was feeling better energy and less brain fog. I'm gonna test this some more...

Also regarding nutritional stuff- I recently have begun eating a bunch of brown rice a few times a day and feeling more energy. I don't know if it is just general nutrition or Pois related. It could just be better slower release carbs than eating white bread.

Thanks by the way for the warm welcome to the group long ago. This forum rocks! 

does anyone get colder hands and feet after Oing

and are natural cranberries recomended over the concenrtrate juice

Yeah I have had cold hands and feet/poor circulation like I was cold blooded after O.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5494 on: 06/09/2009 18:51:04 »
mmm, i still think chi is the key

apparently emotional freedom technique( acupuncture without the needles) can be used to stimulate the flow of chi

I may try that but dont want to stir anything else
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5495 on: 06/09/2009 19:57:46 »
mmm, i still think chi is the key

apparently emotional freedom technique( acupuncture without the needles) can be used to stimulate the flow of chi

I may try that but dont want to stir anything else

You will realize that after months of abstinence, it still doesn't get any better when you orgasm.  It's an imbalance, something real and physical.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5496 on: 06/09/2009 20:15:19 »
well, i have not felt too bad at all lately , actually

and deep abdominal breathing seems to be helping
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5497 on: 06/09/2009 22:46:56 »

Can anyone post some credible research evidence for the existence of chi?
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« Reply #5498 on: 06/09/2009 22:50:09 »

THISFORUMROCKS, welcome back!
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5499 on: 06/09/2009 23:02:53 »
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B_Jim, if I want to augment my testosterone with cranberries or blueberries

In all cases, you should follow the recommanded dose. You need to know the dose of anthocyanin for each cap. The physiological dose may be 35mg . But it seems very difficult to  replace t-patches.


Thanks, B_Jim. I have no intention of replacing T-patches, in fact I just increased my T-dose 50%. I would simply like to  add an ingredient or two that would boost my 75% cure. And I take the recommended dose of cranberry caps, but I stopped after one dose, not sure why, possibly because it's difficult to measure incremental effects. Also, I don't believe anything bacterial/viral is going on with me.
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