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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5650 on: 21/09/2009 03:52:45 »
Demo, I was surfing the internet and found out that testosterone has anti-inflammatory properties and can suppress production of pro-inflammatory cytokines.

Then again, it said that carbohydrates reduce inflammation, and carbohydrates actually make me feel worse.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5651 on: 21/09/2009 08:21:06 »

I don't have any known health problems, my doctor actually said that I was "remarkably healthy."


I used to think that.

But if we all look at ourselves carefully....we're not healthy! In POIS we are pretty sick! And that is, sadly, ALWAYS lurking just around the corner.

We are just thankfully "in remission" for a great deal of the time.

I'm not writing this to be depressing. Hopefully it will have the opposite effect, in that when we do "get sick" with POIS, we don't have to think, "Oh no! Look at this devastating sickness that just visited." Instead, we can say, "Lucky that we have ways to stave off the illness", e.g., temporary or fulltime abstinence, future medicine, etc.

As we all know, there are many maladies that are truly a 24/7/365 condition.

We have a part-time illness.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5652 on: 21/09/2009 21:49:48 »
Visiting the psychiatrist tomorrow, my parents said no matter what we are going to get to the bottom of this.  I can't keep on living with this rediculous condition.


We have a part-time illness.

That's a lot of motivation right there

new symptom: anybody get a stiff neck?
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5654 on: 21/09/2009 23:20:55 »
Yeah Demo, I sort of laughed when she told me that.

GC, thanks, turmeric is definitely something that Ill try, just because its so benign (in mustard!)

About phenylalanine, and the gum that you said the you chew, or used to, I read a lot of good things about it, but then I read some bad things about it such as in aspartame.

http://www.sweetpoison.com/phenylalanine.html

Can anyone clear up this confusion for me?
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5655 on: 23/09/2009 01:05:00 »
Interesting article from the BBC on how alcohol can help prevent brain injuries:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8262393.stm

"Experts believe the right dose of alcohol, however, stops the cascade of swelling, inflammation and further destruction of brain cells, known as secondary brain injury."

Interesting that they are considering that alcohol can have anti-inflammatory properties! I should confess that I have noticed that having an orgasm after a few beers does seem to alleviate my subsequent POIS symptoms - has anybody else noticed a link between alcohol and POIS?

I'm not encouraging people to go out and get drunk by the way! Although POIS sometimes feels like its driving me to drink ... :)
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5656 on: 23/09/2009 02:24:36 »

                                    


This is the 6,000th post at the Naked Science Forum's POIS thread, which began here on February 18th, 2007 with the very first post by John21, who is still with us today.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5657 on: 23/09/2009 02:34:51 »

has anybody else noticed a link between alcohol and POIS?


I quit drinking 16 years ago. I always had excessive reactions to alcohol: a hangover would last 3-4 days, like my POIS did, although the symptoms weren't exactly the same.
 

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« Reply #5658 on: 23/09/2009 14:44:40 »
Dean, is it me, or does that mustard seem to work?
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5659 on: 23/09/2009 19:11:37 »
well, keep at it, see if it works every time!
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5660 on: 23/09/2009 20:02:40 »

reversible arrow

My 90%+ cure

Since starting testosterone therapy last year, I have been continually reporting a POIS cure per episode of 75% to 90%, sometimes 100%. After today, I think I have a better idea of why...when it's 90%+.

Why was today (first 24 hours, "Day Zero"), good? Mostly Day Zero is still a mini-POIS-nightmare for me, but not today:

1. Was within frequency limits. Find your limits, and don't exceed them. If you can "sense" your own sperm regeneration, stay away from sex when you feel "empty".

2. Doubled dose of stimulants (with psychiatrist's approval). Finally quit caffeine and dying for it. Too bad.

3. Increased testosterone (with endocrinologist's ok)

4. Sunshine. Lots of it.

5. Engaged with other people socially for several hours.

6. Took "risks". Played piano for a group of people.

I hope this helps. But keep in mind that this is what works for me. We're all different.


Success again today! (so far...it's noon) And I'm  having my POIS-carbs-pizza lunch, which also helps.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5661 on: 24/09/2009 00:49:37 »
well, keep at it, see if it works every time!

sorry ,yeah i know, trying not to jump to conclusions
 

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« Reply #5662 on: 24/09/2009 08:55:41 »
That's great to hear of some successes above and 6000 posts is quite a milestone for representing so much interest and contribution!

For my newest endeavor, I plan to try out the "Body Ecology Diet" in an attempt to crack POIS. Apparently this diet, which includes coconut water kefir and cultured vegetables among other things, is so amazing that it has most notably helped in recovery from autism!  [:0]

It is no quick fix but I'm thinking this diet could be good for my general health and potentially decrease POIS even if it does not cure it.  :o I wonder if beer is on the diet? I need to get the book and I will share any interesting updates on progress.

About the "Body Ecology Diet":

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5663 on: 24/09/2009 19:48:19 »

has anybody else noticed a link between alcohol and POIS?


I quit drinking 16 years ago. I always had excessive reactions to alcohol: a hangover would last 3-4 days, like my POIS did, although the symptoms weren't exactly the same.

Yes.  It seems to affect some of my POIS symptoms.  Beer also seems worse than wine, in this sense.  But maybe this is related to my seeming (haven't tested yet) reactive hypoglycemia (which I think is quite related to POIS).

 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5664 on: 24/09/2009 19:52:42 »
devastated,

You may want to consider a pituitary MRI (with contrast enhancement).  Some of your symptoms match mine, and I was found to have a pituitary adenoma.  (All of?) Those here who have had pituitary MRIs with contrast (not CT) have also been found to have pituitary abnormalities.

This could be a key.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5665 on: 24/09/2009 19:55:03 »
I think the 'addiction' hypothesis is quite important.  I find pornography, etc., can affect and severely aggravate symptoms (to some extent while I watch it, but more, the symptoms that follow orgasm, if I have been watching pornography... I think it intensifies the neurochemical reaction caused by orgasm).
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5666 on: 25/09/2009 05:09:26 »

For my newest endeavor, I plan to try out the "Body Ecology Diet" in an attempt to crack POIS. Apparently this diet, which includes coconut water kefir and cultured vegetables among other things, is so amazing that it has most notably helped in recovery from autism!  [:0]

It is no quick fix but I'm thinking this diet could be good for my general health and potentially decrease POIS even if it does not cure it.  :o I wonder if beer is on the diet? I need to get the book and I will share any interesting updates on progress.

About the "Body Ecology Diet":


TFR, best wishes with Body Ecology Diet, looking forward to your report!
 

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« Reply #5667 on: 25/09/2009 05:10:51 »

Counterpoints, welcome back!
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5668 on: 25/09/2009 19:26:12 »
I think the 'addiction' hypothesis is quite important.  I find pornography, etc., can affect and severely aggravate symptoms (to some extent while I watch it, but more, the symptoms that follow orgasm, if I have been watching pornography... I think it intensifies the neurochemical reaction caused by orgasm).

counterpoints i agree with you, before i found this forum my first experiment to  combat pois was stoping pornography, and then trying to go as long as i can with out having any o's.  the combonation of pornography/o's, multiplied the effect of pois greatly. 
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5669 on: 25/09/2009 19:36:30 »

has anybody else noticed a link between alcohol and POIS?


I quit drinking 16 years ago. I always had excessive reactions to alcohol: a hangover would last 3-4 days, like my POIS did, although the symptoms weren't exactly the same.

Yes.  It seems to affect some of my POIS symptoms.  Beer also seems worse than wine, in this sense.  But maybe this is related to my seeming (haven't tested yet) reactive hypoglycemia (which I think is quite related to POIS).


i read somwhere, mabee it was on this forum, that some people lack the ability to properly brake down prostaglandin or histamine.  it cause them to get a head ache while drinking, and causes them to have insomnia, and can give them very long hangovers.  taking tricyclic's like amytripiline can brake these compounds down.
 

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« Reply #5670 on: 25/09/2009 19:43:00 »
i quit drinking anything a few years ago.  brewer's yeast tested positive as severe reactant when i took a food reactant test called the (ALCAT)

www.alcat.com
 

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« Reply #5671 on: 25/09/2009 19:50:07 »
i quit drinking anything a few years ago.  brewer's yeast tested positive as severe reactant when i took a food reactant test called the (ALCAT)

www.alcat.com
The ALCAT Test identifies reactions to over 300 foods, chemicals and other substances associated with inflammation that are linked to chronic health problems like migraines, aching joints, fatigue, gastrointestinal disorders, eczema, hyperactivity/ADD, asthma and even obesity


Allergic reactions to food, food intolerance (hypersensitivity), refined food, junk foods, food additives, and chemical contaminants in food can alter our moods and lead directly or indirectly to a constant state of low energy. People with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome frequently have sensitivities to foods, chemicals and other inhalants. These may be classical allergies which are IgE (Immunoglobulin Type E)-mediated sensitivities or food intolerance (which is not IgE-mediated, so allergy tests, such as skin ***** tests, are negative) and chemical intolerance are especially common. Patients showing evidence of this often find that the management of these sensitivities can be an essential part of improvement or recovery from the illness.
 

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« Reply #5672 on: 25/09/2009 22:01:57 »
I don't think this is auto-immune.  Now, directly after sex I get a very hyperactive feeling, like too much adrenaline is released into my system.  The headaches come after a few days.
 

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« Reply #5673 on: 26/09/2009 04:43:47 »

As another POIS experiment today (sparked by the usual in-POIS carbs-craving) I drank a "ton" of orange juice throughout the day. That, plus doubling the Rx stimulant-dose(again, with psychiatric approval) as mentioned in the first post at the top of this page, shortened the time of POIS symptoms significantly.

I know this goes counter to some people who studiously avoid carbs. But we're all built differently and, I think, have different forms of POIS.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #5674 on: 26/09/2009 08:48:00 »
Dean, that might be a reason to why exercise helps, it burns adrenaline.  And sometimes after exercise, I might feel worse, that kind of relates to the adrenaline excretion sometimes during exercise, so it might be beneficial or not.  Right now the O's that I have I just get a really bad "rush" that doesn't go away.  Has anyone been tested for burnt out adrenals, and/or adrenaline over-secretion.  Adrenaline is secreted after sex.  This could explain the POIS rollercoaster we all have been on.  Hypoglycemia.  I was reading http://www.enotalone.com/article/4170.html , explains some phases of regenerating adrenal glands.  Maybe we just respond with a lot of adrenaline towards sex?  It would explain this high-low experience, brain fog, anxiety, headache.. I refuse to believe any auto-immune disease exists against my hormones, I think something is just really over-secreted a great deal.
 

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