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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #600 on: 02/06/2008 07:29:51 »
Perhaps I misunderstood an earlier post, but do you have POIS? I only ask because you said something about a contact at another Forum, so I wasn't sure if you are interested as a researcher, a sufferer or both. Thank you.

I found this forum because for most of 9 years I have suffered from severe and unusual symptoms following orgasm; like usual, I was looking on google to see if anyone else had suffered from similar symptoms.  My symptoms include anxiety, exhaustion, and difficulty focusing following orgasm.  I am also a physicist who works with medical researchers, so I have some contacts who might help me and others here. 

The other forum is a French forum that Guthrie mentioned.  I thought I could make a simple HTML form with text boxes like "Treatments attempted", "Symptoms", "Duration of symptoms", "Test history", etc.  This way people could fill out a "form", and it could easily be done in both French and English, so we could combine our efforts with the French website and have a very organized database of information to accompany our posts in this thread.  We could could provide a link to this "form" in our thread here, and continue our discussion here without starting any new forum, etc.

So "both" is probably the best answer to your question.

The most phenomenal aspect of my case of "POIS", is that orgasm was not only the source of some of the problems, but also the cure.  It took me 8 years of experimentation to find this out.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #601 on: 02/06/2008 08:23:19 »
Here is a letter I wrote, similar to demografx, that people here are free to use or combine with demografx' and B_jim's thoughtful letter.  I *strongly recommend* we compile everything in an organized manner though; we will want to do it sooner or later, so we should probably do it before we talk to very many researchers.  If anyone can provide some modest web-hosting, I will put up my form for this.


To whom this concerns,

I am writing on behalf of a group of a least a hundred people who suffer from crippling symptoms following orgasm.  We are referring to it as Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS).  These symptoms include exhaustion, difficulty concentrating, anxiety, loss of speech fluency, and cloudy mindedness; they are often severe, and can take up to a week to dissipate. 

These symptoms are preventing a large group of otherwise intelligent and motivated people from functioning properly.  We are desperately hoping that you would be interested in studying our condition.  Each of us have written about our medical history, which medications we have attempted, which tests we have taken, and our particular symptoms. 

Could you please read this information and provide us with some feedback?  We could discuss re-reimbursement although we do not have a great deal of money.  However, your research into these cases would certainly provide for interesting journal publications.  There was much interest when Dr. Marcel Waldinger published some research in regards to this ailment (unfortunately he is no longer available for contact). Further, any insights you have into our condition could likely lead to groundbreaking developments towards treating connected but more well known conditions that are the focus of much current research.  And any time you invest in helping us will collectively salvage hundreds of years worth of our time, which would otherwise be spent conducting amateur investigations and suffering alongside our families who are also deeply affected by association.

Thanks, and please give this some sincere consideration; we are all desperately hoping for your help.



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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #602 on: 02/06/2008 15:17:37 »
Demografx--a definite yes to the research endocrinologist.

I'm not finding the "posted results of the data form B_Jim compiled." Where is that?
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #603 on: 02/06/2008 20:33:44 »
I would'nt worry about Imre1 folks. I find that he is a good guy but often confused, probably POIS overdrive and the valium he is taking.

Yes. I seem to pissing more people then usualy of these days. Maybe I should be seeing a psychologist.

Anyway the stuff in second life has been removed.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #604 on: 02/06/2008 20:53:04 »
Good on you! Let's find a solution!

I have this "fatigue, brain fog, can't concentrate, irritable, weird feeling in stomach, dry skin, pale, feel like sleep" after orgasm for several days too. I'm in my late 20's. Regular doctors say it's psychological, so can't help me. I am from Holland. I believe the whole thing has something to do with an imbalance of hormones or stuff.

So I say "yes" to an endocrinologist. I think putting data together does not combat this idea. Instead it adds value. We make it easier for the researcher to get an idea of what's going on, so increasing chances he will go for it.

I don't have a website to host your form, Counterpoints. Anyone? We might have to create a free site somewhere. I haven't found B_Jim's form either.

I would like to add to the questions on the list: "do the symptoms occur after a wet dream as well? (so to exclude the possibility of psychological causes).
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #605 on: 03/06/2008 06:02:47 »
Demografx--a definite yes to the research endocrinologist.

I'm not finding the "posted results of the data form B_Jim compiled." Where is that?


Girlwind, and rock27, there is a search function at the top of this page. If it didn't work for you...

B_JIM, CAN YOU PLEASE POINT US TO THE POSTS? Thanks!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #606 on: 03/06/2008 06:06:46 »
Counterpoints writes, "The most phenomenal aspect of my case of "POIS", is that orgasm was not only the source of some of the problems, but also the cure.  It took me 8 years of experimentation to find this out."

CP, sorry if you already wrote about this, if so, could you point me to "the cure"? Was it repeated orgasms? I recall seeing something about that. Thanks.
 
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #607 on: 03/06/2008 06:10:35 »

If anyone can provide some modest web-hosting, I will put up my form for this.


Counterpoints, I just asked one of the TNS moderators.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #608 on: 03/06/2008 06:39:22 »
I would like to add to the questions on the list: "do the symptoms occur after a wet dream as well? (so to exclude the possibility of psychological causes).

rock27, very interesting, I never thought of that objectivity/psychological link.

In earlier years, wet dreams ALWAYS resulted in POIS for me. Later years the dreams eventually stopped (thankfully!!)
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #609 on: 03/06/2008 06:45:09 »
Here is a letter I wrote, similar to demografx, that people here are free to use or combine with demografx' and B_jim's thoughtful letter.  I *strongly recommend* we compile everything in an organized manner though; we will want to do it sooner or later, so we should probably do it before we talk to very many researchers.  If anyone can provide some modest web-hosting, I will put up my form for this.


To whom this concerns,

I am writing on behalf of a group of a least a hundred people who suffer from crippling symptoms following orgasm.  We are referring to it as Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS).  These symptoms include exhaustion, difficulty concentrating, anxiety, loss of speech fluency, and cloudy mindedness; they are often severe, and can take up to a week to dissipate. 

These symptoms are preventing a large group of otherwise intelligent and motivated people from functioning properly.  We are desperately hoping that you would be interested in studying our condition.  Each of us have written about our medical history, which medications we have attempted, which tests we have taken, and our particular symptoms. 

Could you please read this information and provide us with some feedback?  We could discuss re-reimbursement although we do not have a great deal of money.  However, your research into these cases would certainly provide for interesting journal publications.  There was much interest when Dr. Marcel Waldinger published some research in regards to this ailment (unfortunately he is no longer available for contact). Further, any insights you have into our condition could likely lead to groundbreaking developments towards treating connected but more well known conditions that are the focus of much current research.  And any time you invest in helping us will collectively salvage hundreds of years worth of our time, which would otherwise be spent conducting amateur investigations and suffering alongside our families who are also deeply affected by association.

Thanks, and please give this some sincere consideration; we are all desperately hoping for your help.


Counterpoints, terrific letter!
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #610 on: 03/06/2008 07:06:11 »
You want the posts related to what i wrote in letter ?
- agjchs and DHEA


other good posts :

-Bizzy's theory
- Dave23 protocol


B_Jim, you did a survey of all the people at POIS Forum, symptoms, and then posted the results of those who responded. It was a few months ago? Then you tabulated the results, showing for example, my work with Levitra and someone else for DHEA, but with ALL your survey questions, and it showed everyone who replied, not just the DHEA and Levitra results.

Many thanks, if you can find the relevant post(s) would you kindly "Quote" them here again? THANKS!
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #611 on: 03/06/2008 16:40:11 »
For most of the year, I had completely treated "POIS" by having orgasm to sexually stimulating images when feeling affected.  If I felt bad, I would have another orgasm; I would try again and again until the "good orgasm" undid the affects of the other ones.  On average, I masturbated once a day to sexually stimulating images.  Sometimes I would do it twice if the first one didn't work.

It seems that in your case you are able to lock in a 'good orgasm' by using sexually stimulating content and having further orgasms if things didnt work. So it seems you have found a partial solution that works for you. The fact that you can go back and correct the condition means that you are rather more fortunate than others.
I know that this routine does not work for me and probably many other people. The content I focus on makes no difference to the outcome and having more orgasms brings about even more severe symptoms.
We can see that there are variations in the way POIS affects us but the core symptoms seem to be the same.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #612 on: 03/06/2008 19:16:47 »
I am in a rush right now, so I will respond to some of your questions tonight.
Tonight I will also post my questionnaire here to see if there is anything anyone would like added before I write the code and put it up on a website.  Suggestions for questions are welcome.  I will look at B_jim's questionnaire and some of the responses to it as a guide for designing some of the questions.

Basically, there will be a bunch of text boxes you can fill out in response to questions.  Once finished, you would press a 'submit' button.  This would then save a text (or HTML) file of your answers, associated with whatever identity you chose for yourself when filling out the form;  (e.g. 'Counterpoints.txt' could be generated).  These text files would automatically be viewable on a website.  You would have the option to add information to your file afterwards, though it is generally best if you be as detailed and thorough as possible on the first time you fill it out.

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #613 on: 03/06/2008 22:23:07 »
Does anyone still post on this forum, i know the last post was a while ago but could do with some advise  or information

I have problems with what i think is pois, i have a few symptoms that arnt really listed. If anyone has any comments please feel free to chat to me about this.
1/ Tiredness, ie in the morning finding it hard to awake propely, not wanting to get up
2/ After orgasm my sweat smells very sweet and distinctively salty. literally strait after orgasm, it lasts for several days.
3/ I work out in the gym but find it hard to keep focused and though i dont feel sleep tired i feel letharigic, i just want to lie down and rest. Im more focused after a week without orgasm but tend not to last more than a week so cant tell if it will be better if i dont orgasm after a week.
4/ If im not mentally or physically stimulated i find my eyes wanting to close and sleep, espeacially while driving or in meetings. I literally have to hold my eyes open, even with great concerntration i find it so hard to stay awake.
5/ Testcles ache, feel drained if thats a sensation that ppl are aware of.

Any posts to this would be grateful. thanks.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #614 on: 03/06/2008 23:19:32 »
Jamie,

With an unexplained condition such as POIS it is hard to nail down how dynamic the underlying problem might be, for example is it possible for a person have it slightly? That being said your experience does not sound to be of the same nature as mine: serious mental "change" that feels awful in an indescribable way and thinking is more difficult. There have been other "symptoms" but the cognitive problem is the worst offender. An odd thing about my POIS is that I have no memory of what it "feels" like until I am back in it again, it is that elusive to description.

The fact that your testicles ache might be indicative of a problem, I suggest you talk to a doctor about it if you have not done so already.
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #615 on: 03/06/2008 23:32:02 »
yes seen a doctor about the aching, ive had several ultrasound and nothing there, its only wen i emitt. for a few days after. i dont change in a mental way, but do feel as if somethingisnt right, unableto fully think and even keep awake. are u aware of any of my symptoms?
 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #616 on: 04/06/2008 00:21:52 »
If the symptoms occur after orgasm then they correlate to the POIS condition we are talking about here. The core symptoms are :

Confusion, tiredness, inability to concentrate, sleepiness, difficulty of speech, depression, muscular weakness, depersonalization and derealization
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #617 on: 04/06/2008 02:58:32 »
Girlwind responses to B_Jim's survey:

1)- Number of days after orgasm you have problems : It varies a lot depending on how healthy I am at
the time. (I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome in addition.) The POIS symptoms can last a minimum of 1 to 2 days,
if I'm successful at "treating" them with my vitamin/herb mixes. But if I'm low energy already, then orgasms can
trigger a draining fatigue that brings on a month long flu or infection.
 
-- How many hours after orgasm start symptoms ?  Usually after 4-5 hours, I really begin to feel it.
-- In the first hours after orgasm, how do you feel ? I feel okay for the first 2 hours, pleasantly relaxed and
comfortable in my body. The POIS symptom peak of discomfort comes during the next 24-48 hours. At first
I feel agitated, jittery and spaced out (day 1); then I feel the exhaustion on day 2 on.

2) Symptoms :
Give a mark for each symptom :
0=No   1=Very Low   2=Low    3=Average   4=Severe   5=Very Severe

-Physical tiredness 4
-Mental tiredness: 4
-Lethargy/Derealisation 3
-Lack of concentration/Brain fog: 4
-Sweatings and heat feelings:4
-Cold feelings/cold hands/cold body:0
-Myalgias:0
-Anxiety: 3-4
-Depression:3-4
-Agoraphobia/Social phobia: 3
-Not motived:3
-Memory problems:4
-Difficult to speak/communication:4
-Insomnias/sleep problems: 4
-Headaches:0
-Stomachaches:0
-Restless/agitation: 4
-Blurred vision: 2
-Buzzing ears:0
-Dizziness: 3
-Muscle tremors:0
-Diarrhea day1: 0
-Hair problems:0
-Mouth problems:0
-Skin problems:0
-Eyes problems:0
-Short breathing Day1:2
-Premature Ejaculation: 0
-Sexual pain after sex :0
-Erection problems:0
-Libido problems: 4 (in general my libido is low already, POIS makes it worse)

Others Symptoms ?  I get so worn down that I sometimes end up with a cold or sinus infection for 2-4 weeks after.
(CFS is most likely a contributing factor.) My immune system can't handle the drain of orgasm.

3) What medical test you made ? In the days following orgasm ?
-Thyroid ?
-Prolactine ?
-Testosterone?
-Blood pression?
-Others..
I've never had bloodwork on a POIS day. I have had tests in the last 2 years that indicated a thyroid on the low end
of normal, low testosterone, and low DHEA--less than half of normal. My blood pressure has always been low. (110/65)


4)What meds did you test ? What effect on POIS ?
-Ssri ?
-Stimulants? Dopaminergic ?
-Benzodiazepine ?
-Piracetam ?

I avoid prescription medications, as I have had many severe drug reactions in the past, even to aspirin and novacaine.
I have found that adrenal boosting herbs and supplements have helped to somewhat alleviate my POIS symptoms,if
I take them before sex or immediately after orgasm. Schizandra adrenal support by Planetary Formulas and Siberian
Ginseng have been the most helpful, along with a big dose of sublingual B vitamins and large doses of B5 with Vit. C.
Recently I have begun taking DHEA and will see if this works to help the POIS problem.


5)Others
-What about you diet ? I eat all organic foods--meat, vegetables, whole grains, goat dairy products (allergic to cow dairy),
fruit in season, salads. No sugar, coffee or alcohol. And I drink only filtered water.
-Sport ? I do yoga, walk, ride my bike and kayak in summer. It all depends on where my energy is at.
-Heavy Computer user ?  I can use the computer up to 6 hours/day. It is draining after 4 hours.
-Coffee user ? No.

I want to add that before I got Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, I never had POIS symptoms. I have now lived with CFS for 30
years and I notice the POIS symptoms are worst when CFS is at its worst. There is a connection between how much energy
I have and how much sexual energy I can afford to burn. I also notice that when I have spontaneous orgasms in dreams, the
exhaustion level is never as great or as long lasting as when I have a "conscious" orgasms. I am fairly sure that this is
due to the fact that my mid-sleep orgasms only happen in mid-cycle, when progesterone is peaking. (I must have an
abundance of hormones to spare at those moments and this must have some EXTRA to burn.)

 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #618 on: 04/06/2008 03:03:43 »

having more orgasms brings about even more severe symptoms.


This is absolutely and painfully true for me. I shudder to think of those multiple orgasm occasions!
 

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« Reply #619 on: 04/06/2008 04:53:05 »
The Orgasm Cure


Counterpoints writes, "The most phenomenal aspect of my case of "POIS", is that orgasm was not only the source of some of the problems, but also the cure.  It took me 8 years of experimentation to find this out."

Here is my story explaining the "cure" and how I came about finding it.  I don't think I can do justice to this discovery with a short description, so here goes:

I have had this problem for about 10 years.  For 9 of those years, I would be absolutely terrified to follow the "multiple orgasm" suggestion: orgasm always made me feel very cloudy-minded, anxious, like I couldn't express myself, etc.  Like I've heard a few times now, there's not much I can relate the experience to.  When I am not feeling POIS symptoms, the anxiety I might feel about talking to a certain person, or taking a test, or whatever, is very different than the anxiety I constantly feel during POIS.  I obviously didn't have many "multiple orgasm" moments, since the first one usually made me feel so bad I wouldn't want to repeat something like that.  And when I did have several orgasms, they didn't seem to make me feel better - either I would feel roughly the same or worse.  Of the people here, John's experience is the one I most relate to.

However, in the last few years, I noticed there were odd times when I would go to bed feeling very affected by POIS, and then I would wake up feeling very relieved and mildly euphoric; all of the POIS symptoms had quickly disappeared: I was my old self again.  I then realized I had had a wet dream.   But when I had orgasms through masturbation, I usually felt horrible.  And I usually felt horrible after wet dreams too (though sometimes not as bad). So there didn't seem to be much I could do other than hope for the very rare occasion I would have a good wet dream; this happened about every 10 to 20 wet dreams... so I would have to wait months, and it wasn't particularly something that would help me function on a day to day basis.

At this point, I was quite terrified of orgasm, or really anything too sexually provocative.  I felt as though I was doing something "wrong" by looking at any sexually explicit material, or by masturbating.  Needless to say, I was never comfortable about masturbation because I was always waiting for the horrible after-symptoms to follow.

I began to talk about this problem with a friend, and after awhile I felt slightly more comfortable towards these activities.  I had an orgasm after looking at some sexually explicit material, and I didn't feel pronounced side effects; I'm sure a person without POIS would still think that whatever I was feeling was pretty dramatic, but after being used to completely intolerable and long lasting (days, weeks, ..) symptoms, this was a relief.

I began to fall into a pattern of an orgasm every 3 days or so.  Then every 2 days.  These patterns usually lasted for months.  I noticed the more frequently I had orgasms/week (during these month long patterns), generally the faster my recovery from POIS was.  For example, if I were having an orgasm a month, it would take me a week to recover.  If I were having an orgasm a week, it would take me 3 days to recover, etc.  Of course this only applies to long term patterns; if I was in a pattern of 1 orgasm/month, then if I quickly shifted to an orgasm a week, I would not notice my POIS symptoms getting better more quickly.

One day, I was feeling very affected by POIS.  I got home, I was totally fed up, and I masturbated -- sort of like someone who is upset that he was foolish while drunk, so out of frustration for life he decides to drink more.  20 minutes later, I realized that I felt great.  I felt a huge relief, and again, I was mildly euphoric. Eventually, I got into a pattern of having an orgasm to alleviate myself from POIS.  This is something I had to break myself into over a couple years.  I imagine if I had told myself this 4-5 years ago, perhaps I could begin to benefit from it within about 6-8 months.

This is also not a cure.  It is not reliable -- I don't know when I'll have a "good orgasm", and when I'll have a POIS one, and there is a limit on how many orgasms are safe to try in one day.  Even if they aren't making me feel worse, it is not safe to have my body adjust to something I can't sustain given POIS symptoms.

The only vague ideas I have about what increases the likelihood of a "good orgasm" is
1) Stimulating images
2) "stimulate" yourself for at least 5 mins.  do not have a "quickie".
3) RELAX.  It is sometimes best to try this after having had a beer.

Finally, I'm sure this description makes POIS sound completely psychological.  I don't think this is the case.  When I have a "good orgasm", it alleviates my symptoms, whereas alcohol, ativan, tranquilizers, etc. only make me care less about my symptoms -- they are still there, and will still be there when the effects of the drugs wear off.  Also, I can't will POIS symptoms to take effect, and I can't will them away either.  And even feeling quite comfortable with masturbation, sex, etc., I still have POIS.  I've just found a way to help me manage it somewhat better.

If anything, perhaps this 'good orgasm' effect will help us learn more about the underlying cause of this problem: how could the *severe* symptoms that follow one orgasm be alleviated by a subsequent orgasm? 
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« Reply #620 on: 04/06/2008 05:12:17 »
I am wondering if anyone has had a functional MRI scan, or a PET scan?  I am very worried about damage.  My guess is that there is very little damage, although I find even when POIS free my lexical recall (my ability to remember the words I want to use in a description) is getting worse.  For example, the word for 'bench' might slip my mind, or 'shelf', or other simple words I obviously know, but just can't recall. 

I am a pianist, and I have noticed that while POIS affects the quality of my playing, it does not affect my motor control.  So I am not 'impaired' in the same sense I would be after drinking or taking most drugs, for example.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #621 on: 04/06/2008 06:51:45 »
I am wondering if anyone has had a functional MRI scan, or a PET scan? 

I've had an MRI of my brain.  Everything checked out except for a very small growth (about 2mm) on my pituitary was found.  It seemed to coincide with my prolactin levels being slightly too high.  But no damage was reported.  Difficulty in recalling words is defiantly one of my top symptoms; in fact it is only now, a few days after my last orgasm, I can finally think and find words to finally write my term papers X_X

 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #622 on: 04/06/2008 06:56:50 »
I am wondering if anyone has had a functional MRI scan, or a PET scan? 

I've had an MRI of my brain.  Everything checked out except for a very small growth (about 2mm) on my pituitary was found.  It seemed to coincide with my prolactin levels being slightly too high.  But no damage was reported.  Difficulty in recalling words is defiantly one of my top symptoms; in fact it is only now, a few days after my last orgasm, I can finally think and find words to finally write my term papers X_X



Good luck on your papers! I hope you continue to feel well.

I meant "functional" MRI (abbreviated as fMRI).  Rather than producing anatomical pictures, this type of MRI allows one to see functional activity.  So we could see which parts of the brain are active, for example.  This could also show damage.  And Positron Emission Tomography (PET) also gives us these kinds of pictures. 

These types of scans can even be used to diagnose schizophrenia, alzheimers, bipolar disorder, and other psychiatric conditions, based on pictures of brain metabolism.

Regardless of what specific type of condition POIS is (even if it is completely psychological, which I find very very unlikely), I think a PET scan would point us in the right direction, so long as it were taken while we were feeling POIS symptoms.

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #623 on: 04/06/2008 10:39:16 »
Counterpoints, often times on the initial day of POIS I would feel mildly euphoric, perhaps closer to what is typical of "normal" people post orgasm, but these mental states could not be held for long and any positive sensation would eventually nosedive as I had to deal with the "mental change" that had occurred.  In my POIS state the difficulty in communicating verbally with others in this state was most distressing. I don't recall ever having an improvement from further ejaculation, rather it would amplify the problem. 

I have had only a basic MRI and nothing was found.  :D
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #624 on: 04/06/2008 22:37:30 »
Counterpoints, often times on the initial day of POIS I would feel mildly euphoric, perhaps closer to what is typical of "normal" people post orgasm, but these mental states could not be held for long and any positive sensation would eventually nosedive as I had to deal with the "mental change" that had occurred.  In my POIS state the difficulty in communicating verbally with others in this state was most distressing. I don't recall ever having an improvement from further ejaculation, rather it would amplify the problem. 

I have had only a basic MRI and nothing was found.  :D

No MRI here, but you reminded me of my earlier years' POIS, in which the first day's mild euphoria eventually nosedives. In recent years, I seem to go directly to nosedive ;D - "do not pass GO, do not collect $200"

How did we all end up with this crazy, cruel malady????

By the way, I noticed that eating pasta or piza sometimes provides minor POIS relief. Anyone else experience certain foods/drink helping? (Caffeine helped, and now I'm quitting that, I simply can't moderate it successfully which leads to all sorts of probs)
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