[demografx]

POIS DIARY

First, Acronym, thanks for shedding further light on the possibilities of nitric oxide! To answer your question why others haven't tried Levitra, I've always discouraged it for people who don't have ED. And Cialis failure with POIS is still a mystery. Except that Cialis components somehow work far longer on ED. I was actually shocked that Cialis was a Zero-percent improvement for me! Thanks for reporting your results.

It's about 32 hours ago since 10 mg Levitra plus release, and I'm feeling pretty close to full recovery (vs. 4 days to recover previously).

In the first 24 hours, I slept for 12 hours thinking I could shortcut the recovery even more. The sleep wasn't totally refreshing so I stayed in bed today resting during the daytime. Tonight I went to dinner with my wife and relatives (it went well - I even told dumb jokes), saw a movie and there my concentration was below par, but not anywhere nearly as bad as the pre-Levitra days.

Anyway, my long sleep "shortcut" last night and bed rest today didn't really work (brain fog and fatigue were still there). But the bedrest felt good  []

My fingertips are now less dried up/numb, which are my barometer of my overall POIS state.

It's still good news for me: It's about 1 day of agony instead of 4. And the agony is much milder.

But I'm now spoiled. That 1 bad day - even though much less harrowing - is enough to keep me from release as long as possible.

Like Martin Luther King, "I have a dream" where everyone can one day release and not worry about disastrous consequences!!

[demografx]

In Martin Pall’s theory of the cause of chronic fatigue (CFS), nitric oxide plays a central role.
http://www.chronicfatiguetreatments.com/wordpress/treatments/chronic-fatigue-nitric-oxide/

[imre1]

So far I've noticed increased fatigue, but not much else.

Anyway if your medication allows you to get out of your chair. This means an improvement in fitness. Even if, when you do some excercise, the pills need some time to adjust your heart rate and subsequently feel tiresome at first.

[imre1]

So far I've noticed increased fatigue, but not much else.

Anyway if your medication allows you to get out of your chair. This means an improvement in fitness. Even if, when you do some excercise, the pills need some time to adjust your heart rate and subsequently feel tiresome at first.

Beta blockers have a double working when doing excercises.

At first it is difficult to get into doing something. But after some time your heart settles and then you can for example dance for 6 hours no stop without getting tired, out of breath (an other one of those "I thought i would never do this again", and a trilion times more fun then sex).

[demografx]

Some good comments on the forum, really feels like we're getting somewhere in the fight against POIS. Some very interesting ideas about the link between Levitra and Nitric Oxide (NO). Apparently L-Arganine is supposed to be the precursor for NO, as its just an amino acid that you can buy from heath food shops I am tempted to give it a try!

Thanks, hurray. Note B_Jim's comment above about L-Arganine.

[demografx]

POIS DIARY (Continued from above)

Today is the beginning of Day 2. Still just a little brain fog and just a little fatigue. Dried up/numb fingertips mostly gone (for some strange reason, the feeling in the fingertips was never that bad, but for some reason makes me extremely annoyed. Maybe it's because the fingertips are a barometer, as I mentioned previously, of my entire POIS state).

Slightly irritable. So I'm not "100%" yet.

It's hard to judge the extent of "cure" this round. 75%? 60%? 50%? Anyway, it's in the right direction! Levitra has now been in use successfully against my POIS for over one year.

**But PLEASE don't try Levitra without your physician's approval. Especially if you don't have ED.**

[hurray]

Dried up/numb fingertips mostly gone (for some strange reason, the feeling in the fingertips was never that bad, but for some reason makes me extremely annoyed. Maybe it's because the fingertips are a barometer, as I mentioned previously, of my entire POIS state).

I know what you mean about a POIS barometer ..... for me, the skin on my forehead feels very dry and taut, and my hair feels very dry and straw-like.

I always assumed that this happened because nutrients were being stolen by other parts of my body somehow, but perhaps there's a more scientific explaination involving hormone balance etc ....

[girlwind]

Hey Demografx:  My post from way back on page 26 also concerns arginine as raising NO.

Demografx--I spoke with a friend who is a nutritional researcher and he said arginine (an amino acid) has the same basic effect as
Levitra, which is to raise the nitric oxide levels in the blood, with no risk of heart attack or potential blindness. Just to let you know.

Dried up/numb fingertips mostly gone (for some strange reason, the feeling in the fingertips was never that bad, but for some reason makes me extremely annoyed. Maybe it's because the fingertips are a barometer, as I mentioned previously, of my entire POIS state).

I know what you mean about a POIS barometer ..... for me, the skin on my forehead feels very dry and taut, and my hair feels very dry and straw-like.
I always assumed that this happened because nutrients were being stolen by other parts of my body somehow, but perhaps there's a more scientific
explaination involving hormone balance etc ....

Okay, I know you probably will hate to hear this, but dry skin and straw-like hair is a sign of guess what: hypothyroidism.

[demografx]

Demografx--I spoke with a friend who is a nutritional researcher and he said arginine (an amino acid) has the same basic effect as
Levitra, which is to raise the nitric oxide levels in the blood, with no risk of heart attack or potential blindness. Just to let you know.

Thanks for that, girlwind! Please keep in mind that it's very hard to remember all the incredible amount of data that flies by here! And nitric oxide has only very recently (after your post) become heightened for me as potentially important to understand.

But I'm not sure arginine alone would help ED - which, sigh, I might have incurred by my extended testosterone use last year to revive libido after a long depression period.

Okay, I know you probably will hate to hear this, but dry skin and straw-like hair is a sign of guess what: hypothyroidism.

Why would I hate to hear it? Girlwind, I hope you understand by now that the only thing I want - just like you - is TRUTH! Wherever it leads us! Sure, I have a pet theory about nitric oxide, but if someone can show me consistent POIS results by eating dry lizards (yuk) I'll do it! Remember, I'm still a desperate man, girlwind!  []

[demografx]

...you can for example dance for 6 hours no stop without getting tired, out of breath (an other one of those "I thought i would never do this again", and a trilion times more fun then sex).

imre1, are you saying dancing is way more fun than sex? If so...please post your dance steps.....NOW!! []

[hurray]

Thanks for the info Girlwind, I don't mind finding out what might be wrong with me, I'm already suffering so information can only help lead me to a cure

I've looked at wikipedia's symptom list for Hypothyroidism, but I don't really match that many of them, and in some cases I am the exact opposite (strong fingernails, very tolerant of cold, no digestive problems etc). Fatigue and depression are the only 2 that might fit me of the "early symptoms" list, but they could apply to hundreds of other illnesses, and I would say I only suffered from the above 2 mildly anyway.

Outside my POIS episodes my skin is not dry at all, and my hair is a bit on the greasy side if anything. It's the contrast between my normal "good hair and skin" and how they feel when I have POIS that reminds me that I have it.

So hopefully I have been lucky enough to avoid Hypothyroidism ... but now I know the symptoms I am warned in advance

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if orgasm somehow "confused" my hypothalamus and/or pituitary gland (which apparently control the thyroid gland), and cause it to function less efficiently than usual.

It also wouldn't surprise me if many of the posters here have hormone imbalances of one kind or another - whether that would be the cause of POIS or one of its symptoms I don't know .....

[demografx]

This Forum activity makes me wonder if this is what it was like for Christopher Columbus and his crew - - debating the best way to get to America []

[demografx]

Outside my POIS episodes my skin is not dry at all..

Me, too.

[girlwind]

Thanks for the info Girlwind, I don't mind finding out what might be wrong with me, I'm already suffering so information can only help lead me to a cure

I've looked at wikipedia's symptom list for Hypothyroidism, but I don't really match that many of them, and in some cases I am the exact opposite (strong fingernails, very tolerant of cold, no digestive problems etc). Fatigue and depression are the only 2 that might fit me of the "early symptoms" list, but they could apply to hundreds of other illnesses, and I would say I only suffered from the above 2 mildly anyway.

Outside my POIS episodes my skin is not dry at all, and my hair is a bit on the greasy side if anything. It's the contrast between my normal "good hair and skin" and how they feel when I have POIS that reminds me that I have it.

So hopefully I have been lucky enough to avoid Hypothyroidism ... but now I know the symptoms I am warned in advance

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if orgasm somehow "confused" my hypothalamus and/or pituitary gland (which apparently control the thyroid gland), and cause it to function less efficiently than usual.

It also wouldn't surprise me if many of the posters here have hormone imbalances of one kind or another - whether that would be the cause of POIS or one of its symptoms I don't know .....

A FANTASTIC THYROID WEBSITE  INCLUDES A LAB WHERE CONSUMERS CAN ORDER ANY BLOODWORK THEY WANT

So just in case anyone wants this info, I found a great informational website on thyroid, hosted by a woman
who is the author of one of the best thyroid books I've read so far: LIVING WELL WITH HYPOTHYROIDISM.
http://www.thyroid-info.com/   Many many excellent resources, books, and a thyroid quiz are on this site,
along with... a lab where you can order YOUR OWN BLOOD TESTS--without a doctor's order. How cool is that!  
This lab has an absolutely humungous list to order from...at a cost 50-80% less than at a doctor's office or
hospital. Check it out if you need any diagnostic bloodwork of any kind. https://www.mymedlab.com/

[demografx]

girlwind, would you recommend 2 tests? ("in-POIS" and "not in-POIS")

[girlwind]

girlwind, would you recommend 2 tests? ("in-POIS" and "not in-POIS")

Actually, that might be a good idea. We could each do a complete hormone panel with all the gonadal hormones--
estrogen, testosterone, DHEA; the 4 cortisols (although these are usually done with saliva testing), and the thyroid
panel of Free T3, Free T4 and TSH. Maybe even HGH (human growth hormone), and any others that may apply.
We could do them w/o POIS and then with POIS.   It would be interesting....

[msl]

Hey people im still around =)
I have my first session with our university mental health counsellor to talk about this with her. I seem to remember an online form, where users could submit their symptoms and all sorts of information.. Id like to show this to her as i found it very useful =)
could someone please link me?? []

************ is my email

[girlwind]

One thing I have tried that has helped with my CFS and also to a partial degree with POIS, that is supposed to stimulate the circulatory system, is cayenne pepper. I read about a guy who had CFS who claimed cayenne pepper was a big factor in him regaining his health. Its health benefits were originally promoted by a Dr.Schultz. I have taken it all of this year in the morning and I think it has been a factor in my improving health. I have to admit I have only taken regular 'very hot' cayenne pepper powder. The advocates of this spice highly recommend taking super hot pepper with 100,000+HU rating, which I haven’t as yet, as it’s just not in shops.

HEY ACRONYM: Where do you get super hot cayenne? And how much do you take, and how?

[demografx]

POIS DIARY
48 HOURS

Well, that's how long it took this time to shake POIS with my 10 mg Levitra. Importantly, the symptoms were not nearly as severe as the pre-Levitra POIS days.

My estimate of 50% to 75% cure this time holds. Since it was a very long time since the previous POIS episode, I somehow thought I would do better. Oh well, maybe next time. Sorry I shouldn't complain! I got my brain back! (the brain fog lifted a few hours ago)

And maybe another testable item from you all will be promising enough to try to augment the Levitra next time!

[demografx]

Where do you get super hot cayenne?

girlwind, I did some consulting work for this company several years back, they've been around a long time. But Acronym might have a better source. Here's their super-hot.......
http://gurneys.com/product.asp?pn=69963&bhcd2=1223866024