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According to a 2014 study, "marijuana use is inversely related to their intimate partner violence over the first 9 years of marriage".

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25134048


 

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Re: Could cannabis use decrease risk of domestic violence?
« Reply #1 on: 15/03/2016 13:16:11 »
Dope-induced apathy would apply to both legitimate & criminal behaviour.

http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/newsandeventspggrp/imperialcollege/newssummary/news_1-7-2013-11-49-21
 

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Re: Could cannabis use decrease risk of domestic violence?
« Reply #2 on: 15/03/2016 18:01:01 »
Why this "dope-induced apathy" has anything to do with domestic violence? It seems your anti-cannabis arguments are biased and not much supporting the evidences that cannabis can lower the risk of domestic violence.
 

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Re: Could cannabis use decrease risk of domestic violence?
« Reply #3 on: 16/03/2016 00:00:24 »
Why this "dope-induced apathy" has anything to do with domestic violence?

"dope-induced apathy" will apply to all activities, be it domestic-chores or domestic-violence. Persons who would be inclined to do those things will be less likely to do them if on dope because of the apathy it causes.

... anti-cannabis ...

When not banging-on about paranoid conspiracy theories* , you've suggested wacky-baccy can stop cancer, Parkinson's , and now wife-beating. i.e. you appear to be promoting cannabis as some sort of panacea, curing all problems , ( except paranoia & apathy, which it causes ).

The rules of this forum say "The site is not for evangelising your own pet theory" . You repeatedly creating pro-cannabis threads looks like evangelising to me. 

 ( * usually government-based, e.g. fluoridation , vaccination , chemtrails )
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Re: Could cannabis use decrease risk of domestic violence?
« Reply #4 on: 16/03/2016 12:52:32 »
Different recreational drugs have a different impact on the mind. Alcohol lowers inhibitions and allows emotion to come to the surface, easier. It is much easier of the lounge lizard to pick up drunk girls, than sober girls. It is easier for him to use well rehearsed lines to trigger emotions and feelings when there is alcohol. Alcohol primes the mind for emotions.

Sexual assault is very often connected to the use of alcohol on both sides, because the male is letting emotions lead and female will be easier to induce, then when she is sober. Both may forget their role the next day, when the mind changes. Maybe courts needs to interview the guy and gal when they are sober and also when they drunk, since each state may not remember the other.

The nerd trying out for a fraternity, may have never done anything exciting in high school. You add alcohol, and he is now ready to get into things. Alcohol gives false courage trough the emotions it can induce. This courage can be gone the next day, when the alcohol is gone. He may then deny his actions, with his parents unable to see how nice little John could do this. They will need to give John a few drinks and then ask him.

The way the brain works is when the brain writes to memory, the limbic system adds emotional tags to memory. Our memory has both emotion and data content connected to each memory. Alcohol, by inducing strong emotions triggers our memory from the emotional tag side; leading to thought. If one is full of ego inflation, that feeling in some may induce thoughts with a similar feeling; rant about the good ole days.

In the case of domestic violence, if the wife or girlfriend attempts to push strong emotional buttons in a drunk spouse, these induced feelings can trigger thoughts leading to violent action. For example, if Trump says bad hateful things about immigrant and this causes young people to riot, is not the fault of the rioters. If Trump was a women and she nagged her husband and he  riots and throws things around,  and even hits her, now it is the rioters fault. We need to make one standard for all and not just base it on who votes democrat.
 
Marijuana impacts the mind differently. Marijuana does not trigger the same level of emotions. It tends to trigger thoughts leading to emotions, instead of emotions leading to thoughts, like alcohol. Both trigger the memory, but in two different direction; thought to feeling or feeling to thought, with each having a different output. With marijuana, the feelings are more subtle and less linear since the leading train of thought may fluctuate. The love generation of the 1960's were smokers and not drinkers. They were composing songs to induce the feeling of love.

If a husband and wife were arguing and fighting while smoking, the emotions would not be as strong.The purpose of the domestic fight is the female wants the male to express emotions. Women enjoy what the feelings in a male, induces in them. The romantic male uses feelings to allow the woman to feel. The women prefer something romantic, but an angry outburst is better than be indifferent.

However, the women needs to understand if she over tweaks her mate, and the test tube blows up, you don't blame the test tube. You learn to add less explosive next time, if there is alcohol, since alcohol is an oxidizer. Marijuana is much less oxidizer so you can use more fuel, but you will not get a good fuel to air ratio. It may not be clean emotion; smoky.
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Re: Could cannabis use decrease risk of domestic violence?
« Reply #5 on: 16/03/2016 16:01:11 »
... the women needs to understand if she over tweaks her mate, and the test tube blows up, you don't blame the test tube

Apparently you're saying when husband beats the wife, it's the wife's fault.  :(

https://youtu.be/uXom0OP3Rwk?t=33s
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Re: Could cannabis use decrease risk of domestic violence?
« Reply #6 on: 16/03/2016 21:10:59 »
Quote from: puppypower
alcohol is an oxidizer. Marijuana is much less oxidizer...
...figuratively speaking!

Since this is a science forum, I should pedantically mention that in smoking Marijuana, oxygen is the oxidizer  ;)
 

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Re: Could cannabis use decrease risk of domestic violence?
« Reply #7 on: 16/03/2016 22:41:03 »
Quote from: puppypower
alcohol is an oxidizer. Marijuana is much less oxidizer...
...figuratively speaking!

Since this is a science forum, I should pedantically mention that in smoking Marijuana, oxygen is the oxidizer  ;)

alcohol is not an oxidizer for any biologically relevant system. The only things I can think of that would be oxidized by alcohol are reactive metals like Li, Na, Mg etc...

Alcohol is very toxic compared to other substances of abuse, but mostly because the dosage is so incredibly high. I can't think of any other drug where the typical dose is measured in ounces...
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Re: Could cannabis use decrease risk of domestic violence?
« Reply #8 on: 18/03/2016 11:51:31 »
There is another kind of domestic violence that should be considered: child abuse.

Parents who are apathetic, uninvolved and disinterested; parents who are neglectful and unable to provide the necessary physical, emotional or financial support damage their children.

There are many ways this could occur, and substance abuse is certainly one of them.
 

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Re: Could cannabis use decrease risk of domestic violence?
« Reply #9 on: 28/07/2016 19:59:11 »
There are many ways this could occur, and substance abuse is certainly one of them.

Substance abuse is different from responsible drug use. Not everyone who smokes a joint is a careless irresponsible person. There's ways to smoke marijuana responsibly.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsible_drug_use
 

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Re: Could cannabis use decrease risk of domestic violence?
« Reply #10 on: 28/07/2016 22:37:27 »
"dope-induced apathy" will apply to all activities, be it domestic-chores or domestic-violence. Persons who would be inclined to do those things will be less likely to do them if on dope because of the apathy it causes.
Perhaps, but not all dope causes apathy. The indica varieties tend to do this, but many sativa varieties produce a noticeable physical boost, a stimulating, slightly 'speedy', effect.
 

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Re: Could cannabis use decrease risk of domestic violence?
« Reply #11 on: 29/07/2016 05:30:43 »
That depends on how strong the stuff is that your smoking and why.

It's strange the way marijuana addicts people.  Not to it but to the things you do while high.  If you smoke weed to release stress that your spouse was causing then it is associated in your mind to be needed to escape stress and when you have no weed you wont know how to cope with the stress your spouse is causing then bam! violence.

However if you use marijuana only after you get off work and listen to music while high, you'll relax but your mind has not associated use of marijuana with your spouse and no domestic violence would occur because of marijuana.


I find addiction fascinating only because there are many different types and levels of addictions.  it really deals with brain chemicals getting out of balance and causing too much of a substance to be in the brain, the brain gets used to a HIGH level of chemicals and thinks of it as normal, then when withdraw occurs your brain is wondering why a chemical level is lower then normal which causes emotional reactions.

Weed throws the cannabinoid receptors out of balance, cannabinoid receptors which are not a major mood altering receptor group like dopamine receptors is not capable of making you super strongly addicted to it or have super strong emotional reactions to it's withdraw.  It is possible that weed causes some tiny % of domestic violence however meth tobacco and especially alcohol cause far more violence and damage to civilization then marijuana could ever cause.

I would gladly like to see tobacco made illegal so that marijuana based products take it's place as a better less addictive choice for people.



Ps: the future of weed is bio ionic Tetra hydroponic chronic, the act of electrifying a hydroponically growing plant to a high ionic charge anywhere between 20 and 200 kv the high voltage electric field protects plants from pests and also causes many more hairs and crystals to grow on the plant, it also helps the plant grow faster and wider. The plant feels as though it is being pulled apart by the electric repulsion force It effects the normal growth patterns.  It also causes the water in the plant to become like a Di-electric and become aligned to electric field so will the cells within the plant which may facilitate cell division and absorption of nutrients.

The way it works is similar to the way scientists were able to grow ice crystals abnormally when freezing water which had a high voltage charge.

The end result is the strongest buds on planet earth, without refining to wax or oil.


You take a potted hydroponic plant system make sure it's not grounded and ionize the plant using a voltage multiplayer or van de graff then you want to take a tomato vine metal mesh and make a Faraday cage around the plant  and ground the cage, you want the plant to be close enough to the cage that an ionic wind flows but be careful that it's not too close that electric arcing happens, that would not be good.  These types of plants don't look normal when grown from sprouts in an electric field they grow "fluffy hairs" on the stem and leaves you would have to see it for your self.


the cage could be positively charged and not grounded wile the plant would be negative but that would mean you could get shocked. Its better to have the cage grounded even though it's less efficient it's safer.
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