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#### marzosia2

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« on: 30/03/2016 15:06:05 »
.................m..................
.............TABLE................
.....................................
<<<< observer 2

observer 1 >>>

Mass m is on the table  and not moving

force (reaction )  it is ABSOLUTE or RELATIVE  information ?

? ? ?  other point of view is able change Reaction  ( m- table ) ? ? ?
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#### marzosia2

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##### Re: Simple Question about force
« Reply #1 on: 30/03/2016 16:48:20 »
2 +4 +3 = 9

a + b + c = f(x)

if a  and b and c ∈ N ==>  f(x) it is Natural Function

Force  =  F(a,b,c)     [ Newton = kg • meter / sec ]   a,b,c arguments

If    F(a,b,c) ABSOLUTE ==> a and b,and c are absolute !

You can not build  absolute function F  if  arguments are relative !

#### Tim the Plumber

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##### Re: Simple Question about force
« Reply #2 on: 31/03/2016 12:25:49 »
1, Don't use maths when you have no clue what you are doing. It's like arranging words in a pretty pattern. You could write a beautiful looking latin script but it would be meaningless. Same with maths, looking like maths is not the same as being maths.

2, Force is experienced by the object upon which it acts. So it is irrelevant what other observers see or think.

#### marzosia2

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##### Re: Simple Question about force
« Reply #3 on: 01/04/2016 05:54:24 »

2, Force is experienced by the object upon which it acts. So it is irrelevant what other observers see or think.

GREAT !! VERY GOOD it is  FACT !!!!

F(a,b,c ) = FORCE

FORCE IT IS FUNCTION F(a,b,c) ! WE ARE 100% SURE that F IS ABSOLUTE !

a,b,c -  function's arguments !
( a= time , b = mass , c = distance )

QUESTIONS  :

Q1:
FORCE IS ABSOLUTE ! CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT ARGUMENTS  ( absolute ? / relative? )  ?

Q2:
How to build absolute function and  do not use  absolute arguments ? ( POSSIBLE ? / IMPOSSIBLE ?)

EINSTEIN TOLD THAT:  ( a= time , b = mass , c = distance )   are relative !
CAN YOU TELL ME  MORE ABOUT HIS THEORY ? ( TRUE /FALSE ) ?

Force ( relative variable a , relative variable b , relative variable c ) = F(a,b,c ) ???  No ! FALSE
Force ( absolute variable a , absolute  variable b , absolute variable c ) = F(a,b,c ) ??? YES TRUE !!!

MATHEMATICA  IS ABLE  ALSO explain  MORE STRONGER FACT !  ...:

Force ( relative variable a, absolute  variable b , absolute variable c ) = F(a,b,c ) ???  No ! FALSE
Force ( absolute variable a , relative variable b , absolute variable c  ) = F(a,b,c ) ???  No ! FALSE
Force ( absolute variable a , absolute  variable b ,relative variable c) = F(a,b,c ) ???  No ! FALSE

1, Don't use maths when you have no clue what you are doing. It's like arranging words in a pretty pattern. You could write a beautiful looking latin script but it would be meaningless. Same with maths, looking like maths is not the same as being maths.

very good argument please inform by Your e- mail  people in LIGO !

exist 3 options :

a) They are intelectual  ignorants !

b) They understand that You have right and they speculating TRUE ( dirty game )
They have many many  public moneys and  They are very strong organism
a lot of people  using this money
Typical asymetry situation
( small person (You ) is informing by e-mail  huge organisation about fact  that destroing this what They are doing many years.. )

c) In media and In  books we have not real informations
because ARMY protecting knowledge about VERY PRECISSION and CHEAP GPS

inside Michelson Morley ... I showed this on FORUM  ...)

To find  Doppler I made many tests ( 2012 ---now )
5 years my own work without outside help
( nobody supporting people like me ... )
all my instruments and experiments I made my own hand !

GPS ? ...in universe exist 7-10 constant vectors ( SPEED )
to  explain You  position I need minimal 3 vectors.

I no need use stars or other objects
around Earth and on the Earth to exlain you X,Y,Z position
( SPEED it is not reall object
we can compare speed to very special  constant wind !
wind's  direction/ speed/ force  = good information for people who are on the sea to find port )

Earth own rotation is able inform you
about geographic WIDE / and  level above sea !
I showed two Experiments
( Michelson Morley on Equator / North Pole) it will not  be the same Doppler
( the same instrument will not give the same resoults Equator/ North Pole )

30 km/s - Earth around SUN  vector
220 km/s - Earth and Sun around Galactica
....
......

EXIST ALSO OTHER IMPORTANT PROBLEM ( WE CAN MEASURE THIS PROBLEM )
I KEEPING THIS PROBLEM IN SECRET  !
( it will be very easy  for me to  show evidence  DAY and TIME that I made test )
this information will help me prove THAT I'm AUTHOR
( my family is not Rich - I not trust in TRUE
a lot of people like my ideas  )

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#### Tim the Plumber

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##### Re: Simple Question about force
« Reply #4 on: 01/04/2016 08:34:43 »

2, Force is experienced by the object upon which it acts. So it is irrelevant what other observers see or think.

GREAT !! VERY GOOD it is  FACT !!!!

F(a,b,c ) = FORCE

FORCE IT IS FUNCTION F(a,b,c) ! WE ARE 100% SURE that F IS ABSOLUTE !

a,b,c -  function's arguments !
( a= time , b = mass , c = distance )

NO!

Force is force. It is not dependant upon a, b or c. Your psudo-maths drivel is utterly meaningless or worng.

If I was the moderator here you would be banned for being mad.

#### Thebox

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##### Re: Simple Question about force
« Reply #5 on: 01/04/2016 11:29:35 »

If I was the moderator here you would be banned for being mad. [/color]

That would be bad moderating , the persons native language is not English, the person is Polish, like he already stated, I am struggling to understand the person, so it would be wrong to say he is wrong when I don't understand him.

A good moderator would confine him to new theories or just chat and ask him to refrain from posting in main forum because it seems like ''clutter''.

I happily accept when most of my threads are moved, understandable.

I ask questions in this section and make imagination in new theories,

Marzosia please do not post in this section unless you have simple question, take the answers over to new theories if you wish to  argue them.

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#### marzosia2

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##### Re: Simple Question about force
« Reply #6 on: 01/04/2016 13:33:23 »

Newton
Unit system    SI derived unit
Unit of    Force
Symbol    N
Named after    Sir Isaac Newton
In SI base units:    kg ⋅ m/s2

OK

a= A [sec.] , b= B [kilogram]  , c= C [meters]
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#### marzosia2

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##### Re: Simple Question about force
« Reply #7 on: 01/04/2016 13:39:56 »

2, Force is experienced by the object upon which it acts. So it is irrelevant what other observers see or think.

GREAT !! VERY GOOD it is  FACT !!!!

F(a,b,c ) = FORCE

FORCE IT IS FUNCTION F(a,b,c) ! WE ARE 100% SURE that F IS ABSOLUTE !

a,b,c -  function's arguments !
( a= time , b = mass , c = distance )

NO!

Force is force. It is not dependant upon a, b or c. Your psudo-maths
drivel is utterly meaningless or worng.

If I was the moderator here you would be banned for being mad.

Tim the Plumber FORCE is NOT FORCE ! it has got Si symbol  [N] and exist relations between a,b,c ! Your post is New theory - do You have any evidence  or  it is your own words ?
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##### Re: Simple Question about force
« Reply #7 on: 01/04/2016 13:39:56 »