Elementary particles are assumed to have zero volume; to correct my error.Thinking about the quantization of charge the nature of quantization generally; it seems reasonable to suggest that charge itself is the result of some harmonic function. Similarly quantization of spin wrt magnetic moment. Maybe?

Quote from: Arthur GeddesI'm familiar with the Poynting vector (wikipedia.org/wiki/Poynting_vector) in E.M. propagation but, not how it relates to the photon structure.The Poynting vector is a classical construct, based on Maxwell's equations.You can also update it to match relativity.However, it does not address the fact that, if you look closely enough, electromagnetic waves are quantized, ie particles like the photon.So by all means use the Poynting vector where classical effects predominate (eg in a radio transmitter, or TV antenna cable, or a laser beam propagating through space), but be aware of its limitations. Use quantum theory where it is more appropriate (eg to describe the generation of the laser beam, or the photoelectric effect when the laser beam hits a charged cathode in a vacuum tube). Quote from: TheBoxpi*0²=1I disagree. pi*0²=0, not 1.Why not use some real maths? Like the Euler Identity: e^{πi} +1 = 0It has no relevance to the topic at hand - but that puts it on a par with "pi*0²=1".At least it has the benefit of being correct...

I'm familiar with the Poynting vector (wikipedia.org/wiki/Poynting_vector) in E.M. propagation but, not how it relates to the photon structure.

pi*0²=1

Real maths? is pi*r² not a circumference?

Quote from: Thebox on 22/04/2016 16:09:46Real maths? is pi*r² not a circumference?No. It's an area.

Sorry of course 2pi r is circumference , my mistake. So it must be 0³ then?

Quote from: Thebox on 22/04/2016 16:46:28Sorry of course 2pi r is circumference , my mistake. So it must be 0³ then?Power 3 would denote a volume, you are getting close to folks just ignoring you if you can't explain what you really mean. Give up the pseudo maths and try to explain in words - and don't make up posh sounding phrases, they just sound meaningless.

Ok, I can begin to see where you are going.Problem, adding 0s ie nothing to nothing (which is all that raising to the power is) means you still end up with nothing. If I've got no apples and I add them to no bananas, I still have nothing. So 0+0=0 and 0*0=0 and 0^n=0.

And look at the space before your eyes then apply the maths you have just done, you have just successfully described the universe,

Quote from: Thebox on 22/04/2016 18:50:40And look at the space before your eyes then apply the maths you have just done, you have just successfully described the universe, No I haven't

read the add on bit , space is 0 in any direction and 0 is equal to n , 1 is an amount between 0 and 0 consider that volume is the volume of 0's

0 geometrical point + 0 geometrical point = 1

Quote from: Thebox on 22/04/2016 18:54:24read the add on bit , space is 0 in any direction and 0 is equal to n , 1 is an amount between 0 and 0 consider that volume is the volume of 0'sQuote from: Thebox on 23/04/2016 07:36:090 geometrical point + 0 geometrical point = 1I've already explained why this is not true and I don't intend to keep repeating myself. Bye.

If I've got no apples