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How close in today's technology of building a human memory erasing machine?

Could it be done in these three steps.?

To make human tissue translucent, maybe you could make invisible EM waves pass through a solid object, while combining the EM waves with other types of EM waves to make electrons absorb the invisible EM waves, and move to higher shell levels.
So you move electrons to shell levels that do not absorb visible light.
So as you mix EM waves together, the EM waves pass through the solid object while exciting the electrons to higher shell levels.
Then use red light to pass through the solid object, while the electrons are in shell levels that do not absorb visible light.
So basically you are turning the carbon electron energy levels, to the energy levels of electrons in glass.
Thus making the solid object translucent, by a certain percentage.
Then combine this technique with the INUMAC MRI machine, that can see the BOLD signal up to 1000 microns small.
So you are getting a general idea of where brain activity is happening.
Then combine this technique with the latest MEG, machine, and EEG machine, to locate neuronal activity, in the brain.
Now to ionize the neurons modify a gamma knife machine, to be able to ionize neurons at micron scales, or smaller.
This is completely doable because a gamma beam can pass through something as small as a atom.
Just the ball lenses have to maybe be worked on to collimate the beams.
But it should be completely doable.
Do you think it could work?
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How close in today's technology of building a human memory erasing machine.
Could it be done in these three steps.?
To make human tissue translucent, maybe you could make invisible EM waves pass through a solid object, while combining the EM waves with other types of EM waves to make electrons absorb the invisible EM waves, and move to higher shell levels.
So you move electrons to shell levels that do not absorb visible light.
So as you mix EM waves together, the EM waves pass through the solid object while exciting the electrons to higher shell levels.
Then use red light to pass through the solid object, while the electrons are in shell levels that do not absorb visible light.
So basically you are turning the carbon electron energy levels, to the energy levels of electrons in glass.
Thus making the solid object translucent, by a certain percentage.
Then combine this technique with the INUMAC MRI machine, that can see the BOLD signal up to 1000 microns small.
So you are getting a general idea of where brain activity is happening.
Then combine this technique with the latest MEG, machine, and EEG machine, to locate neuronal activity, in the brain.
Now to ionize the neurons modify a gamma knife machine, to be able to ionize neurons at micron scales, or smaller.
This is completely doable because a gamma beam can pass through something as small as a atom.
Just the ball lenses have to maybe be worked on to collimate the beams.
But it should be completely doable.
Do you think it could work.


The Universe offers a natural thing that erases memory in the form of lightning, some people who have survived lightning strikes have had their memory erased, the technology probably already exists in a sense of it is not hard to mimic lightning, but the survival rate would not be good. 

 
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I'm sorry, what was the question again?



Can't help myself.
 
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And you are?
 
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locate neuronal activity in the brain
We are not really sure how memories are stored in the brain. Any prompt which tries to trigger a particular memory in the brain will also activate many other areas of the brain, and many similar concepts.

This makes data collected from fMRI and BOLD a very noisy signal, which can't localize brain functions very precisely.

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Now to ionize the neurons modify a gamma knife machine
Many conscious memories are stored in the hippocampus, which is embedded well inside the brain. Any radiation dose will impact other brain areas above and below the target area.
Even within the hippocampus, any radiation dose is likely to destroy other memories and impair the ability to retrieve memories.

For some other ideas:
Optogenetics is a developing method that allows researchers to control many types of specific brain activity using pulses of light. While it is often used on mice, it would not pass a human ethics committee approval unless there were a clear medical benefit for the patient. It can't be used on just anyone, as it requires genetic changes to the neurones to make them light-sensitive.

There are some drugs used for minimal anesthesia that are claimed to reduce the impact of traumatic events by reducing memory of the event, or by blocking negative emotional connections with the event. It is thought that this could reduce the incidence of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). It is possible that this is already being used inadvertently, since one such drug is used by paramedics on trauma victims.

Even well after the event, there are suggestions that by administering the drug while having the subject recall the event may overwrite the memory with a less stressful version.

If you are not too concerned about the specificity of the effect, I understand that The Godfather had an effective method to remove unwanted memories (do not use this method at home or in the clinic).
 
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is there really a time machine? I watched movies only  with time machience effects etc only.
 
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Not sure about a machine, but some drugs block memory formation and have been used to attempt to remove existing memories.

http://www.wired.com/2012/02/ff_forgettingpill/

The theory behind it is that memory is active; when you recall something you're actually relearning it each time, so if you take the drug and then recall it, you're attenuating the memory.
 
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