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« on: 05/03/2007 10:40:40 »
Why do toast crumbs stick to kitchen surfaces, and bread crumbs do not?
« Last Edit: 05/03/2007 14:04:11 by another_someone »


 

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« Reply #1 on: 05/03/2007 14:09:09 »
I would guess it may be down to differences in the electrical and electrostatic qualities of the carbon in toast (particularly burnt toast) as against those of moist bread.  There may also be differences in the size and weight of the crumbs, and so the forces the adhesion needs to apply.

Have you actually done any tests that confirm that toast crumbs do stick better, or what type of toast sticks better, or whether dried bread sticks better than moist bread?
 

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« Reply #2 on: 05/03/2007 14:33:05 »
Dearest Paul.Fr,

Here...check this out..Dr.Beaver asked the very same thing a while ago

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=2915.0
 

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« Reply #3 on: 05/03/2007 15:31:26 »

Have you actually done any tests that confirm that toast crumbs do stick better, or what type of toast sticks better, or whether dried bread sticks better than moist bread?

well it's just an observation at this time...however, i have set an experiment up.

I have four test "subjects"

1. bread
2. very lightly toasted bread
3. lovely golden brown toast
4. burnt toast

i have made three seperate scrapings off all four, which i will check on hourly. scraping one at the first hour, scraping two at the second and scraping three at the third hour.

I await the results.
 

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« Reply #4 on: 05/03/2007 15:33:21 »
Dearest Paul.Fr,

Here...check this out..Dr.Beaver asked the very same thing a while ago

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=2915.0


Cheers, Neil.

I will continue with the experiment any way, hopefully i may win a prize if i publish the results!
 

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« Reply #5 on: 05/03/2007 15:38:18 »
As a firm believer in empirical study I applaud your willingness to perform these experiment's.
I am sure the ' powers that be ' will furnish you with a prize...perhaps a Ferrari...or ...a loaf of bread !!
 

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« Reply #6 on: 05/03/2007 15:41:11 »
As a firm believer in empirical study I applaud your willingness to perform these experiment's.
I am sure the ' powers that be ' will furnish you with a prize...perhaps a Ferrari...or ...a loaf of bread !!

yes, i could maybe then use that loaf of bread to replace the missing crust mentioned in another topic....
 

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« Reply #7 on: 05/03/2007 16:13:34 »
Yes you take take the bread save the ferrari for me..Hmmmm now what experiment can I do to win that prize...LOL
 

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« Reply #8 on: 05/03/2007 20:08:44 »
well having finished the experiment, you can keep your loaf of bread.

After hours 1,2 and 3 all of the bread and various degrees of burnt toast had failed to stick to the kitchen work surface.

So, i thought that it must only happen when the toast is on top of the crumbs. i then made 3 slices of toat.

1. barely brown, just toasted enough to begin to harden
2. golden brown
3. burnt

i took some scrapings from each slice and place the relative slice of toast on top. after 2 minutes i removed the slices of toast and some crumbs from all 3 slices had stuck to the kitchen work surface.

so, i think it is either the heat from the toast, and or the moisture still within the toast that does ...........something.....
 

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« Reply #9 on: 06/03/2007 12:57:26 »
WELL DONE Paul Fr.

In recognition of your outstanding contribution please accept this Ferrari with REAL bread wheels !!!  ;)







Ok..I'll let you into a secret..those bread wheels are not really part of the car !!..I know !!..it's really difficult to tell isn't it ?  ;)

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« Reply #10 on: 06/03/2007 14:50:19 »
wow, look at that beauty...Karen will have to get up early to win a better pize.

on about lovely cars, i happen to know a song about  cars:

Chim chim-in-ey, chim chim-in-ey
Chim chim cher-ee!
A sweep is as lucky, as lucky can be
Chim chim-in-ey, chim chim-in-ey
Chim chim cher-oo!
Good luck will rub off when I shakes 'ands with you


no not that one..

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars

Here in my car
I can only receive
I can listen to you
It keeps me stable for days
In cars


Here in my car
Where the image breaks down
Will you visit me please?
If I open my door
In cars


Here in my car
I know I've started to think
About leaving tonight
Although nothing seems right
In cars
 

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« Reply #11 on: 06/03/2007 14:57:06 »
I am still waiting for Numan to bring out a greatest hits album...I don't think he ever has !!



......actually..I thought you were gonna give us another rendition of Chitty !!  ;D
 

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« Reply #12 on: 06/03/2007 15:01:17 »
Oh well...my search engines have obviously caught a numan bug because I can in fact see that there have been a few variations on a theme of Numanoid hit joy compilations !!
 

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« Reply #13 on: 06/03/2007 15:05:31 »
I am still waiting for Numan to bring out a greatest hits album...I don't think he ever has !!



......actually..I thought you were gonna give us another rendition of Chitty !!  ;D

LOL, yes i like Gary Numan too. never seen hime live but one of my favourite artists i have seen live is ...oh i can' think of his name..70's/80's singer, always wore black with a big quiff...stupid memory

oh and buster bloodvessel saw him some years back and he was still amazing
 

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« Reply #14 on: 06/03/2007 15:09:20 »
That's right, remember the name after hitting the post button. Alvin Stardust, i love being in a crowd and singing / shouting along to the hits:

Coo coo I just want you
Really love the things that you do
Come on and love-a-me too
Oh won't you be my coo-ca-choo
Sweetness I like ya dress
I love the way you know you're the best
I'm in love and I'm in a mess
I really want you coo-ca-choo

I love ya yes
I love ya yes I
I love my coo-ca
I want ya yes
I want ya yes I
I really do

Tom cat you know where it's at
Come on lets go to my flat
Lay down and groove on the mat
Well you can be my coo-ca-choo

Chains, chains
I'm all in chains
Real love will drive me insane
Come on lets do it again
I really want my coo-ca-choo

I love ya yes
I love ya yes I
I love my coo-ca
I want ya yes
I want ya yes I
I really do

I love ya yes
I love ya yes I
I love my coo-ca
I want ya yes
I want ya yes I
I really do

Night times a lonely time
When you've gone
I'm startin to cry
But you know that
Your on my mind
Oh honey be my coo-ca-choo

Do, do you love me too
Will I smile or willbe blue
I'm a man I hunger for you
Oh honey be my coo-ca-choo
So honey be my coo-ca-choo

I love ya yes
I love ya yes I
I love my coo-ca
I want ya yes
I want ya yes I
I want my coo-ca
I love ya yes
I love ya yes I
I love my coo-ca
I want ya yes
I want ya yes I
I want my coo-ca
I need ya yes
I need ya yes I
I love my coo-ca
I love ya yes
I love ya yes I
I want ya yes
I want ya yes I
I want ya yes
I love ya yes I
I want ya yes
 

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« Reply #15 on: 06/03/2007 15:10:23 »
You don't mean Alvin Stardust do ya ?...wore black with a quiff !!

LOL...Buster Bloodvessel..YAYYY !!...they still tour y'know ?...Bad Manners..YAYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!
 

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« Reply #16 on: 06/03/2007 15:12:12 »
LOL....I thought of Alvin as you were posting Alvin !!......ahhhh !!

Actually.......not too sure if you're into Drum 'n' bass but Alvins son is a chappy called Adam F...and he's well cool !!..but...you have to like that kind stuff !!
 

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« Reply #17 on: 06/03/2007 15:16:18 »
Yes, bad manners come around here most years, the last time i saw them buster was at the bar buying a pint. he was scrimping change...adding the coppers up.

So i ended up buying one for him, i think he must use that ploy quite often
 

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« Reply #18 on: 06/03/2007 15:18:29 »
LOL !!..I am surprised he hasn't keeled over yet !!..
 

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« Reply #19 on: 06/03/2007 16:23:33 »
 YOu too are great!! LOL Heres one for you!!

I'm a little pile of tin,
nobody knows what shape I'm in!

I've got four wheels and a running board,
I'm not a Chevy and I'm not a Ford!

Honk Honk! Rattle Rattle Rattle, crash Beep Beep!
Honk Honk! Rattle Rattle Rattle, crash Beep Beep!

Honk Honk! Rattle Rattle Rattle, crash Beep Beep!
Honk Honk! 

LOL!!! weren't you boys ever scouts!!! LOL I was a Den Mommie!
 

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« Reply #20 on: 06/03/2007 16:26:08 »
That's right, remember the name after hitting the post button. Alvin Stardust, i love being in a crowd and singing / shouting along to the hits:

Coo coo I just want you
Really love the things that you do
Come on and love-a-me too
Oh won't you be my coo-ca-choo
Sweetness I like ya dress
I love the way you know you're the best
I'm in love and I'm in a mess
I really want you coo-ca-choo

I love ya yes
I love ya yes I
I love my coo-ca
I want ya yes
I want ya yes I
I really do

Tom cat you know where it's at
Come on lets go to my flat
Lay down and groove on the mat
Well you can be my coo-ca-choo

Chains, chains
I'm all in chains
Real love will drive me insane
Come on lets do it again
I really want my coo-ca-choo

I love ya yes
I love ya yes I
I love my coo-ca
I want ya yes
I want ya yes I
I really do

I love ya yes
I love ya yes I
I love my coo-ca
I want ya yes
I want ya yes I
I really do

Night times a lonely time
When you've gone
I'm startin to cry
But you know that
Your on my mind
Oh honey be my coo-ca-choo

Do, do you love me too
Will I smile or willbe blue
I'm a man I hunger for you
Oh honey be my coo-ca-choo
So honey be my coo-ca-choo

I love ya yes
I love ya yes I
I love my coo-ca
I want ya yes
I want ya yes I
I want my coo-ca
I love ya yes
I love ya yes I
I love my coo-ca
I want ya yes
I want ya yes I
I want my coo-ca
I need ya yes
I need ya yes I
I love my coo-ca
I love ya yes
I love ya yes I
I want ya yes
I want ya yes I
I want ya yes
I love ya yes I
I want ya yes


Nice lyrics, I have never heard them before!
 

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« Reply #21 on: 06/03/2007 16:27:18 »
BTW I think it is the heat and the moiture combined which makes it stick!
 

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« Reply #22 on: 06/03/2007 17:45:22 »
LOL....I thought of Alvin as you were posting Alvin !!......ahhhh !!

Actually.......not too sure if you're into Drum 'n' bass but Alvins son is a chappy called Adam F...and he's well cool !!..but...you have to like that kind stuff !!
never heard of the kid, and i'm not sure what drum 'n' bass is! i will have a look around for the music and see.
 

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