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Offline Alan McDougall

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They all walked backward, can you make sense of it?

I mentioned this dream because I felt it was so weird and unusual and because I had had the same type of dream in that dimension three times.

In this strange dream,I walked forward it time, while in another time frame relative to me, they always walked backwards, however to those in their own alternate realm they were walking forward in time, while it was me that was backward in time?

What I am now going to describe is very weird but it is a lucid dream that I have had that I simply have no explanation. I went to another dimension or universe where time was reversing and everything and everyone was moving backwards in time. Now you have heard the phrase, "In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king"

In this bizarre alternate reality I could move both back and forward in time and space appeared to be king and I could easily reveal or hide myself there.

Take this case I saw a man who was moving backward from his desk work at 9 am. backward to the morning when he left for work at home at 7am am.

He reversed from his desk to the elevator and while it was moving upwards to his level in the building, and to synchronize exactly with it the moment it reached his the door opened and without looking he reversed into the elevator.

Weird not really! If you play the scenario forward. As the elevator reached his floor it opened and he got out and went to his desk. In his time frame.

Now to make him aware of my presence, I walked in front of him as he reversed from 9am to when he got out of bed at 7am morning. He was startled by this being that suddenly appeared in front of him walking backwards in sync. To his forwards motion

 No matter how hard to tried to get rid of this apparition (me). Once I got behind him as he was reversing and stopped him moving backwards in my time frame, by placing my hands firmly on his back.

So what did he experience when he was moving forward in his time frame time, suddenly he was stopped from some sort of a glue or force feeling a weird sense that there was another entity behind him that he could not identify. I think the hairs on his neck stood up straight don’t you? I could really have fun here I was the phantom of the opera here.?

This guy seemed in the dream at least to be a real person and I could see he was confused even frightened by the apparition I had arrived into his reality.

The interaction between these two time dimensions, when I come to think about, it were so complex one would need an Einstein to explain what was really going on.

For instance I noticed he could see me at times and tried to rush at me and touch me. All I did from his perspective was receding. As his attempt of rushing toward me increased the variance of the two alternate time dimensions just increased He just moved faster backward from me, and the harder he tried to touch me the more I receded. "Weird" very "Weird" He was from his perspective moving forward in time and I was reversing time somehow and following him back from 5 pm to 9 am when he left work. It is really hard to explain and confusing and convoluted.


I have these lucid dreams nearly every night and can at times read words clearly from future news papers etc. Last night for example I saw two words 'EANEA" and "NUNNU" "NUNNU". I googled these words today and they are both on the net, but I can't yet make any connection yet

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Why would a dream make sense?
 

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Why would a dream make sense?

Why not it is about how odd time flow could effect /affect entities in whose reality time flowed in opposite directions. This sort of idea does not violate and fundamental laws of Physics?
 

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This sort of idea does not violate and fundamental laws of Physics?

Perhaps not, but it violates our perception of reality, and any "rules" of experimental physics.

There is a lot of "fairy-tale physics" involved in discussions about time reversal. Sean Carroll has some down-to earth things to say about it. For example:

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When we visualize “time going backwards”, we might imagine some part of the universe running in reverse, like an ice cube spontaneously forming out of a cool glass of water.  But if the whole thing ran in reverse, it would be precisely the same as it appears now.  It would be no different than running the universe forward in time, but choosing some perverse time coordinate that ran in the opposite direction.
 

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This sort of idea does not violate and fundamental laws of Physics?

Perhaps not, but it violates our perception of reality, and any "rules" of experimental physics.

There is a lot of "fairy-tale physics" involved in discussions about time reversal. Sean Carroll has some down-to earth things to say about it. For example:

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When we visualize “time going backwards”, we might imagine some part of the universe running in reverse, like an ice cube spontaneously forming out of a cool glass of water.  But if the whole thing ran in reverse, it would be precisely the same as it appears now.  It would be no different than running the universe forward in time, but choosing some perverse time coordinate that ran in the opposite direction.

Well Einstein imagined riding on a beam of light for example.

In my dream the other universe from their perspective was running forward or from the past into the future and I as experiencing time flow also from my own perspective from past to future.

To him I would seem to be reversing in front of him from 7 am from the moment he got out of bed to go to work which he got to work at 9am. However, from my perspective the first thing I saw in this alternate universe, was that I was standing in front of him at his desk at 9am for both of us, and followed him home as he reversed backwards until he got back into bed at 7am.

However, at his bedside my watch now showed 11 am in contrast to his watch showing still on 7am. It did not matter if I walked backwards or forwards, in his universe I was always advancing into my future. But he was going exponentially further and further from me in time and space?   

If you really think about it it is rather difficult to fathom?

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But he was going exponentially further and further from me in time and space? 

A major problem is that if you were travelling in opposite directions through time, in the same universe, you would meet only for a miniscule "instant", and never meet again.

BTW, why would you see this progression as being exponential?
 

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But he was going exponentially further and further from me in time and space? 

A major problem is that if you were travelling in opposite directions through time, in the same universe, you would meet only for a miniscule "instant", and never meet again.

BTW, why would you see this progression as being exponential?

Exponential in that at first we are synchronized at his desk at 9 am, after me following him back to his bed his clock says 7 am while mine is "now"  at 11 am If we continue to repeat the cycle I would reverse in front of him until we reached his desk at 9 am for him, but it is now 1pm on my clock

So? we both first met at his desk in identical time frames at 9am, then came a separation in time of 2 hours after I followed him back in his time frame to the moment he got out of bed to go to work, with me now at my 11 am and from his perspective, while still he was still at 7 am on his watch, then 4 hours, 8 hours, 16 hours then 32 hours, then 64 hours then, 132 hours then, 264 hours, into infinitely.

However, correct me if I am wrong?
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A very odd dream (but many dreams are). What did you eat the night before?

Regardless of that, the principles involved in your dream are valid points for mathematical discussion.  The phenomenon does not violate known laws of nature except for that of entropy. In essence, your entropy was running opposite to that of the other observer.  In practice, no one to my knowledge has been able to accomplish this in the laboratory, but as a matter of theoretical discussion, it is worth discussing.  (The phenomenon can be partially simulated by running a motion picture film backwards, but this simulation suffers from the deficiency that the person in the film is not actually present and observing you running backward in his reference frame).  It would not seem, at first consideration, that an observer from one universe in which time is moving forward, is fundamentally precluded from  somehow linking to another in an antiparallel universe where time is running backward. But then we try to do the physics of this and run into some problems, such as:  Supposing that each observer simultaneously take a photo of the other.  From the standpoint of Observer 1, the film in Observer 2's camera then becomes unexposed and erased, while that in his own camera remains good. Likewise for the way Observer 2 views Observer 1's film.  But if these things are so, in what direction was the light traveling during the time of the photography?  Observer 1 must conclude that light left Observer 2's camera at the time of photography (adjusted for the speed of light) , having been generated by Observer 2's film erasing itself through spontaneous reversal of its entropy. Likewise for Observer 2's assessment of Observer 1's film.  In the case of your dream, the exact mechanism of observations was not, apparently, delved into.  But it is worth, scientifically, asking the question: When you saw the other man and/or he saw you, light was going which way? 
 

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A very odd dream (but many dreams are). What did you eat the night before?

Regardless of that, the principles involved in your dream are valid points for mathematical discussion.  The phenomenon does not violate known laws of nature except for that of entropy. In essence, your entropy was running opposite to that of the other observer.  In practice, no one to my knowledge has been able to accomplish this in the laboratory, but as a matter of theoretical discussion, it is worth discussing.  (The phenomenon can be partially simulated by running a motion picture film backwards, but this simulation suffers from the deficiency that the person in the film is not actually present and observing you running backward in his reference frame).  It would not seem, at first consideration, that an observer from one universe in which time is moving forward, is fundamentally precluded from  somehow linking to another in an antiparallel universe where time is running backward. But then we try to do the physics of this and run into some problems, such as:  Supposing that each observer simultaneously take a photo of the other.  From the standpoint of Observer 1, the film in Observer 2's camera then becomes unexposed and erased, while that in his own camera remains good. Likewise for the way Observer 2 views Observer 1's film.  But if these things are so, in what direction was the light traveling during the time of the photography?  Observer 1 must conclude that light left Observer 2's camera at the time of photography (adjusted for the speed of light) , having been generated by Observer 2's film erasing itself through spontaneous reversal of its entropy. Likewise for Observer 2's assessment of Observer 1's film.  In the case of your dream, the exact mechanism of observations was not, apparently, delved into.  But it is worth, scientifically, asking the question: When you saw the other man and/or he saw you, light was going which way? 


One can give an illusion of reversing entropy , just by playing a movie reel in reverse order, but the reality the very act of putting on the reel and running the event backwards, just results in a further increase in grand entropy.

Light is independent of the observer, it was the same for both of us, you cannot have backward light, light is either on or off and always at c! Light does not accelerate to c, it is instantly at c, from whatever source, it emerged from, be it an electron changing it an energy level resulting in the atom emitting a photon of energy

Cant we say that life forms reverse entropy, albeit temporarily until grand entropy take grip and finally leads to total chaos, or death of the physical orgasm?

I will respond later to your other interesting points?

Alan
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There is a saying that time flies when we are having fun. On the other hand, if you are waiting from the phone to ring, minutes can turn into in hours, in terms of our perception. The dream could represent a contrast between things you enjoy and obligations that are not enjoyable. On the one hand, you move ahead when you do the things you like, and on the other hand, things you don't like, make it appear you are falling behind.

In terms of physics, consciousness can tweak our perception of reality, where perception of time, speeds up or slows down relative to the clock; standard time.

In the fight or flight mode, time can slow so much, what are normally rapid events to fast to notice, slow like for Nero in the Matrix. It is not clear how consciousness is wired into time and space,  since it is the reference by which we perceive time, with this reference able to alter perception of time.
 

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There is a saying that time flies when we are having fun. On the other hand, if you are waiting from the phone to ring, minutes can turn into in hours, in terms of our perception. The dream could represent a contrast between things you enjoy and obligations that are not enjoyable. On the one hand, you move ahead when you do the things you like, and on the other hand, things you don't like, make it appear you are falling behind.

In terms of physics, consciousness can tweak our perception of reality, where perception of time, speeds up or slows down relative to the clock; standard time.

In the fight or flight mode, time can slow so much, what are normally rapid events to fast to notice, slow like for Nero in the Matrix. It is not clear how consciousness is wired into time and space,  since it is the reference by which we perceive time, with this reference able to alter perception of time.


Your interpretation could apply to anyone it is so general, however, thanks for the try!
 

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In the "Family Guy" cartoon series that is often on the TV there is an episode where time runs backwards (Stewie very nearly gets  unborn) had you perhaps watched this or left a TV running ?
 

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In the "Family Guy" cartoon series that is often on the TV there is an episode where time runs backwards (Stewie very nearly gets  unborn) had you perhaps watched this or left a TV running ?

I have not watched "Family Guy" however, your comment "or left the TV running? does not make sense to me
 

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