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#### jerrygg38

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##### What is the relationship between G and Uo?
« on: 02/07/2016 09:44:00 »
What is the relationship between G and Uo?
The universe we live in is a combination electrical/photonic entity. Normally we have electrical units  of meters, seconds, and coulombs. In addition we have mechanical units of meters, seconds, and kilograms. Thus 4 units determine everything in the universe. Yet a relationship exists between the electrical world and the mechanical world. How can we find this relationship? In 1981 I searched for the relationship by studying numerical relationships between the constants of the universe. In addition I produced charts of relationships and studied them for many years. There were many possibilities but the most likely ones I called sister solutions. In my “Doppler Space Time” and later repeated in my “Gravity and the Dot-Wave theory”, I chose  Mass = Charge x Velocity as the sister one solution. Thus: Kilograms = Coulomb meters per second. Then using numerical analysis we get
G = 16 pi e/(137.036)^3 = 6.67223E-11. The standard value of the Grav. constant is 6.67260E-11 but the mechanical accuracy is not as precise as the electrical measurements. Thus the equation is within accuracy limits.
What does this mean? It illustrates that the gravitational field and the electrical field is similar. They both behave according to the same basic laws. Thus gravitational problems can be solved by complex electrical solutions. In addition we can look at the Grav constant units
G= meters2 / coulomb seconds to determine the gravitational constant at big bang and at maximum expansion.  For a constant coulombs, as the universe heads toward big bang both meters and seconds shrink. Thus at big bang the gravitational constant heads toward zero and nothing holds the universe together and it explodes. As we move toward infinity, both meters and seconds stretch out and the gravitational constant heads toward infinity. Thus the universe will contract again.

#### Alex Siqueira

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##### Re: What is the relationship between G and Uo?
« Reply #1 on: 02/07/2016 20:18:01 »
Thus the universe will contract again.

have you ever consider gravity not as a force but as a result?
What I mean universe maximum expansion started as heat, as colder it gets it is already starting to contract, both expansion at the edges and compression at the interior could be happening at the same time, but something is constantly being produced on the interior and it semas that it wong go anywhere, as result as soon as the expansion ceases there will be cold and universe will reach maximum contraction... and even if it does, it will compress atom and particle on its interior towards the center where the big bang ocurred, the compression of the whole will cause friction and it will eventually reach almost zero again, consequentlly re-exploding again...

The expansion must be the source of the compression, simple cause one does not expands onyl inside out, without compressing itself outside in, and doesn't rwally mater if its size is almost infinity or not, that's why we have electromagnetism granting us local gravity inside the magnetospheres...

The key factor is, the expansion could not be related with the production of dark energy wherever it is, those two must be independant, if those were equivalent nothing would ever get distanced one from the other, the expansion is growing faster and in at the same time the production of dark energy is somehow no more proporsional, something like the new expanding dimmension, our dimmension, is growing more faster than space fabric is being produced, decreasing its density on outer space, consequently decrasing the inner compression of its whole, resulting in less gravity B, "within celestial bodies"... As long as there is black holes and mains stars out there nothing will really change for us inside their magnetospheres, as long there is heat there will be electromagnetism and aslong the stars outhere still leaking it from their poles, they will be generating they local compression over their horizontal disk, gathering atomic structure and forming planets and stars, all over and over again, simple everysingle time the events will be reproduced in lower scale untill you reach your maximum compression, once and because the production of dark energy will also cease, there will be no need for further expansion of it, but very likely due could temperatures, there will be plenty of reason for maximum compression...

Gravity is real as describled as a "reaction" for calculations based on our premises of what we still not understand, and it's really usefull look how far we get in a couple milenia, but it's about time to acept that there is space fabric (energy), there is matter (different frequencies and wavelenghts) generating heat, and the result is electromagnetism, and it alone is what interacts with space fabric, matter and itself changing temperatures, generating heat and speed, te interaction within those tree are what we call as "gravity", at least I do believe so...
For awnsering our questions we need to ignore mater and space fabric, and focused onto electromagnetism and than test the interaction it has with both and himself, we are already doing this but we still consider gravity as a force, if there is a force of compression it comes from the expansion of the universe itself, this is not our concern, at least shouldnt be, there will always be local gravity even from outside the galaxies, no need to trully understand gravity we already set its concept to us and it worked to our local, one should now disconsider such theories and focused on the practical, experimentation with electromagnetism ignoring the gravity concepts, start fresh ignoring gravity and weight of things concepts, simple and pure matematic and experimentation, once and eventualy one will reach the levitation or infinite energy correct model, and when one "do it", the device itself will tell you where all the particles, energy, temperatures and anything else that "one already calculated" belong... It will come from the garages, by phisical experimentation, we're observing the cosmos to learn about what we can see, this is the side A, we need be far more concerned in experimentation over what we can't, and for trying new things someone need to say tho the hell with GR, start to pick up and heat up some things to see what happen, if do not happen do not try to understand to much why not, just reshape and try it again, untill it work one time alone, it's enought...
« Last Edit: 02/07/2016 20:34:18 by Alex Siqueira »

#### jerrygg38

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##### Re: What is the relationship between G and Uo?
« Reply #2 on: 02/07/2016 21:50:10 »
have you ever consider gravity not as a force but as a result?
What I mean universe maximum expansion started as heat, as colder it gets it is already starting to contract, both expansion at the edges and compression at the interior could be happening at the same time, but something is constantly being produced on the interior and it semas that it wong go anywhere, as result as soon as the expansion ceases there will be cold and universe will reach maximum contraction... and even if it does, it will compress atom and particle on its interior towards the center where the big bang ocurred, the compression of the whole will cause friction and it will eventually reach almost zero again, consequentlly re-exploding again...

In many respects the universe operates in a similar manner to the general gas law. the explosion of big bang heats up space and space expands. As it expands it cools. At maximum expansion it starts to shrink and eventually as it heads toward a small volume it ignites and explodes and expands again over and over again. From a more complex viewpoint, the expansion of the universe is caused by the radiation of matter into dark energy. The dark energy expands the universe and at the same time compresses the Earth with a gravitational force. Eventually only dark energy remains and the universe compresses and dark energy at big bang turns into the visible universe. Thus we cycle forever in a very similar manner to particles in a balloon.

#### Alex Siqueira

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##### Re: What is the relationship between G and Uo?
« Reply #3 on: 03/07/2016 04:52:57 »
Seems to be correct, or at least make sense, the question one should be asking is whats dark dark energy, I do believe that dark energy is formed by a infinity quantaty of photons, so much of them that they cause compression over themselves and wherever is on the interior of the fabric, like normal matter, and they also can response to differente temperatures expanding when heated up and compressing their density when could, for that I have to change the hole concept of photons traveling at the speed of light, to photons with zero speed and instead of traveling at enourmos speeds along with the elesctromagnetic wavelenght frequencies from point A to point B, they, the photons, where already at both locations...  Sure that the photons are formed when electromagneticwaves find oarticles with right charge, but I don't believe they can be destroyed, I mean think about it, the can't be split, have no shape, appear and desapear, who says that the photons that was activated and desapared was the same who re-appeared? I wondering that photons are created but never destroyed, they simple cummulat and remain there, only greater temperatures can make them be destroyed, very hight temperatures like on the begining, but due intense eletromacnectism and electricity back there they where being produced like crazy, filling the space forming space fabric, became activated when being passed trought by frequencies and becoming invisible when in the absence, as when you turn of a light bulb...
As source of production of photon could be still happening at the edges, but is very likely that black holes are the real deal, from this point my conclusions start to betrayed myself cause we never close up into a black hole, but I do believe that they are a positive hole, like a planet or star, but one made of expansion that for expecific reasons goes beyon the crost that it does not have anymore, this without have lost its inner heat but instead have increased, and not it can't transfer heat to space around it cause this balance betwen compression generating heat and expansion over a much more strong compression generating self compression generating heat again... The black holes during the process of decompose matter can esly be iradiating the particles with electromagnetism and radiation, and this could be the source of a mass production of photons, as I wonder dark energy, somethign that would be unlikely on a scenario where planets have real weight and can pierce space forming a depresion...

For your calculations involving electromagnetism and relating it with gravity, I do believe that if your calculations are similar to the general, maybe is you that are more accurated, they calculate things using the mass of the object witch is prety constant, your caculations are based on elestromagnetism and in your scenarios they can be subjected to changes of charges and polarity, leading to lower or higter results, observing the universe and how inpredictable it seems to be, calculations of forces that are not constant and are subjected to changes, are a way more reliable than the ones based on the weight of things, they are seeing things so massive outhere that they can't even explain what the hell is happening anymore... Mass being related with eletromgnetic forces resulting in different and inconstant local gravity seems more realiable that mass related with weight bending space causing constant and predictable gravity as a magical force, there are stars producing different electromagneticfields depending not only on their mass but in the stars compossition, generating spheres qith local gravity, in other words GR works prety well to explain gravit and orbits inside our heliosphere local system, doesn't seems to be working well when observing other systems cause thei got their own and different elesctromagnetic spheres, is acceptable a equation based on electromagnetism because it can be aways different, depending on the main star atomic compossition and mass...
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#### jerrygg38

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##### Re: What is the relationship between G and Uo?
« Reply #4 on: 03/07/2016 13:23:35 »
Seems to be correct, or at least make sense, the question one should be asking is whats dark dark energy, I do believe that dark energy is formed by a infinity quantaty of photons, so much of them that they cause compression over themselves and wherever is on the interior of the fabric, like normal matter, and they also can response to differente temperatures

You have a lot of different ideas which you think about. In general we have to study the ideas of others and add to them. Some may be correct, others may only be partially correct. The measurements of the scientists over the ages have lead to different theories which are true or partially true. Any new ideas must take into account the work of past scientists and mathematicians. Corrects always can be made and older theories adjusted.
You have a lot of ideas but it is necessary to study the work of others so that you add to established ideas and advance them. For example, the astronomers measured the time since big bang to be about 13.7billion years. My calculations of 13.78billion years has to match approximately what the astronomers predict. My work cannot invalidate the work of Hubble. I cannot deny the simple equations of Bohr. Likewise Einsteins clock slowing around the Earth is a known fact but I disagree with his methods and rely upon the Doppler equations which give the same answer. So for your ideas to be worthwhile to others you must study what others have to say. And that is a lot of hard work.

#### Alex Siqueira

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##### Re: What is the relationship between G and Uo?
« Reply #5 on: 03/07/2016 14:50:54 »
I wouldn't have said it better, my problems with mathematics are serious nothing ever made sense, seems like alien stuff, although, I compensate that by sharing so one with the right knowledge may thing about it too.. About comprehension and observation no problem at all, but when it comes down to math, or I share the ball or it will go underground with me...

#### jerrygg38

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##### Re: What is the relationship between G and Uo?
« Reply #6 on: 07/07/2016 14:02:23 »
I wouldn't have said it better, my problems with mathematics are serious nothing ever made sense, seems like alien stuff, although, I compensate that by sharing so one with the right knowledge may thing about it too.. About comprehension and observation no problem at all, but when it comes down to math, or I share the ball or it will go underground with me...

I agree that the universe is a simple place and Newton produced simple equations that best explain everything. Then Einstein came up with complex space time which is fine for mathematicians but left the ordinary person in a hole. Then we got the String theory which makes no sense to me. The universe is quite complex but the best we can do to understand it is engineering type simple equations that everyone can understand.  In any event any theory is merely a best fit approximation to reality. There is so much non-linearities that no set of equations fit everything.

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