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Interesting that none of Einstein's victims managed to publish before him. Did he kill them as well as pinch their work?

1. Did Einstein give any credit or mention of the work of Lorentz or Poincare when he wrote his submissions? Answer - None, no references!

2. Did Eddington prove that Einstein's theories were right by photographing the eclipse? Answer - No! All we are seeing is refraction of light from the sun's atmosphere! It has nothing to do with gravity bending light. This has been proven by recent studies of the sun's atmosphere.

http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0409/0409124.pdf

Further reading - How Einstein Ruined Physics by Roger Schlafly
 

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I have a textbook called "Relativity" by a bloke called Einstein, in which he discusses the Lorentz transform.

There comes a point where a fact is so well established that nobody bothers with formal references. Do you always include Euclid and Pythagoras in your bibliography, or do you just rip off their intellectual property without acknowledgement?

Come to think of it, when was the last time you referenced the original source for E = mc^2?
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I have a textbook called "Relativity" by a bloke called Einstein, in which he discusses the Lorentz transform.

There comes a point where a fact is so well established that nobody bothers with formal references. Do you always include Euclid and Pythagoras in your bibliography, or do you just rip off their intellectual property without acknowledgement?

Come to think of it, when was the last time you referenced the original source for E = mc^2?
  Did your book discuss general relativity as well as special relativity. Years ago I read his special relativity book. Since my simple Doppler Equations had a geometric mean which equaled Einsteins, I have always been happy with his special relativity as the best fit equation. Perhaps I should have studied his general relativity long ago but I was more interested in my work.
   So right now I am studying the time dimension as I sleep and await the results the next morning. It is beginning to make a little sense to me. Yet it is quite different from our ordinary spatial thinking. Yet it makes my Doppler images clear to me which is not ordinary thinking. So now I have to shift my images in time. Strange but interesting. And it is easy to understand why others are not able to do this and believe Einstein wrong.
 

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What is interesting about relativistic velocity is, although a clock will slow, as relativistic velocity increases, and the size of the clock will appear to contract due to distance contraction, if we return the clock to the original reference, only time shows any permanent change. The distance variable or size of the clock will fully reverse. We will see a clock that has lost time, but the size of the clock returns to normal, like nothing ever happened to distance. In the twin paradox, the moving twin is younger, but he has not permanently shrunk.

It is very possible space-time is not changing as a unit. Rather space-time appear to change, due to the changes in time, being integrated to distance, to create a distance illusion. In the end, the hard data shows only time shows tangible change.

There is a way to explain this. There is a special affect in photography called motion blur. Motion blur occurs when the speed of shutter is slower than the speed of the action. Since a still picture stops time, the difference is speed; d/t with time stopped d/(t=0), results in uncertainty in distance; motion blur. Motion blur gives the impression of motion, even with time stopped in the still photo; see below. The net affect is time is being expressed via the uncertainty in distance; distance contraction. Once the clock returns to the earth, the distance uncertainty, disappears since the shutter speed and motion speed are the same.

In the case of special relativity, the stopping of time, to obtain the motion blur; distance contraction, is connected to our quantum universe. Time is not continuous, but quantum steps, causing uncertainty in distance, in the gaps, between steps in time.



 
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What is interesting about relativistic velocity is, although a clock will slow, as relativistic velocity increases, and the size of the clock will appear to contract due to distance contraction, if we return the clock to the original reference, only time shows any permanent change. The distance variable or size of the clock will fully reverse. We will see a clock that has lost time, but the size of the clock returns to normal, like nothing ever happened to distance. In the twin paradox, the moving twin is younger, but he has not permanently shrunk.

It is very possible space-time is not changing as a unit. Rather space-time appear to change, due to the changes in time, being integrated to distance, to create a distance illusion. In the end, the hard data shows only time shows tangible change.

There is a way to explain this. There is a special affect in photography called motion blur. Motion blur occurs when the speed of shutter is slower than the speed of the action. Since a still picture stops time, the difference is speed; d/t with time stopped d/(t=0), results in uncertainty in distance; motion blur. Motion blur gives the impression of motion, even with time stopped in the still photo; see below. The net affect is time is being expressed via the uncertainty in distance; distance contraction. Once the clock returns to the earth, the distance uncertainty, disappears since the shutter speed and motion speed are the same.

In the case of special relativity, the stopping of time, to obtain the motion blur; distance contraction, is connected to our quantum universe. Time is not continuous, but quantum steps, causing uncertainty in distance, in the gaps, between steps in time.



 
   Interesting points. right now I am rereading Einstein's relativity book which I found on the internet. It is always confusing since we deal with stationary clocks and stationary rulers.  Once I write Doppler time equations and Doppler distance equations I get Einsteins equations. Einstein = rms Doppler.
  So the moving clock ticks are different. In effect differential time is different for the moving clock. The same is true of differential difference. When the clock returns it is the same size. However the time is different yet its differential time is the same.
   The problem is that Einsteinian time is a geometric mean time while the physical clocks respond to the Doppler components. Thus the only conclusion is that within the clock itself changes occurred that slowed the clock. In my opinion Einstein's equations are quite correct but they are geometric mean equations.
 

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I think you may have displeased Elvis, king of rock n' roll. He is reading this after his shift at the chip shop. He doesn't approve of the way you are talking about his mate Einstein. He thinks your ideas are pants BTW.

Using a third party ghost is just a trick that priests have been using for thousands of years. Its called religion. lol!
 

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I think you may have displeased Elvis, king of rock n' roll. He is reading this after his shift at the chip shop. He doesn't approve of the way you are talking about his mate Einstein. He thinks your ideas are pants BTW.

Using a third party ghost is just a trick that priests have been using for thousands of years. Its called religion. lol!

Using false logic and outright denial is the hallmark of a troll. Does that describe you?
 

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