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What is sleep dread?
« on: 03/10/2016 13:47:58 »
I have read several things about sleep dread, at the moment I am suffering from sleep dread. Is there a science behind this ''illness''?


Can anyone or does anyone know how to get rid of this sleep dread? 

Has anyone experienced sleep dread?
« Last Edit: 03/10/2016 23:21:35 by chris »


 

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Re: Help please! What do we know about sleep dread?
« Reply #1 on: 03/10/2016 14:19:27 »
I've moved your post here so you can discuss it with, hopefully, knowledgable people.

 
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Re: Help please! What do we know about sleep dread?
« Reply #2 on: 03/10/2016 14:22:24 »
I've moved your post here so you can discuss it with, hopefully, knowledgable people.

Thank you very much Colin.
 

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Re: What is sleep dread?
« Reply #3 on: 06/10/2016 12:21:12 »
No help?   

Please, if any of you know anything about sleep dread , please help me ,  I am begging you.

I have been to the doctors who was a waste of time really, I rung them this morning begging for him to see me and was told to go away and try tomorrow although I am not sure where my head will be at tomorrow.


I can't handle this and at times have  had suicidal thoughts because I just want this nightmare to end.

About 6 weeks now I have suffered this.


I understand it is my bodies defence mechanism kicking in when I try to sleep that produces Adrenalin , I am being physical sick it is that intense, I also have to go the toilet .


I understand this is a science forum and not the doctors, but I have nobody else to turn to, and regardless of my science attitude I do trust science and I am sure in science is the answer to my problem.

Please help.



 

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Re: What is sleep dread?
« Reply #4 on: 09/10/2016 12:29:27 »
Have you recently discovered new facts about the universe that changed your opinion about the world ?
Is the fear of sleep because if nightmares?
There could be other factors like fear of hallucinations although never happened.
I' m not a specialist, but these are assumptions based on personal observations.
 

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« Reply #5 on: 09/10/2016 13:38:36 »
Please, if any of you know anything about sleep dread ... I understand it is my bodies defence mechanism kicking in when I try to sleep that produces Adrenalin , I am being physical sick it is that intense, I also have to go the toilet .

Sounds like anxiety ...  http://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/types-of-mental-health-problems/anxiety-and-panic-attacks/anxiety-symptoms/
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« Reply #6 on: 09/10/2016 15:07:07 »
Have you recently discovered new facts about the universe that changed your opinion about the world ?
Is the fear of sleep because if nightmares?

Thank you for your reply, I am not sure about discovering new facts, I did get lost in science and was suffering from delusions of grandeur. I ''snapped'' out of this delusion and then got the sleep dread'
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There could be other factors like fear of hallucinations although never happened.
I' m not a specialist, but these are assumptions based on personal observations.

The mind plays tricks when tired, I do not dream  or suffer illusions although while on beta blockers I did suffer what I call mirages.

 

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« Reply #7 on: 09/10/2016 15:13:22 »
Please, if any of you know anything about sleep dread ... I understand it is my bodies defence mechanism kicking in when I try to sleep that produces Adrenalin , I am being physical sick it is that intense, I also have to go the toilet .

Sounds like anxiety ...  http://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/types-of-mental-health-problems/anxiety-and-panic-attacks/anxiety-symptoms/


Thank you for the reply and link, I have joined several of these sights including this one.   It is anxiety that stops the sleep, however the anxiety is not the underlyning problem, the anxiety is caused by t he fear of trying to go to sleep.  Since my post I have started to learn to control the fear , with the aid of beta blockers and the odd sleeping tablet I have been able to get some sleep.   last night I took amitripyline for the first time, I slept with no sleeping tablet for several hours. (yesssssss)

I am so relieved this morning I feel great and feel like crying just in happiness that I slept well with no sleeper.
Of course I have put some of my  logic into ''curing'' myself , this seems to have worked so far. I think in time after I am certain I am '''fixed'' , I have a few techniques to help with sleep dread/sleep fear.

Thank you and thank science for little pills of wonder.



 

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Re: What is sleep dread?
« Reply #8 on: 09/10/2016 18:31:18 »
General, severe fatigue can cause increased brain activity which can cause dificulties sleeping. Sleep deprivation futher increases the fatigue. Then you enter a vicious cycle. This can cause anxiety as well. It can also cause difficulties folowung long term objectives. Another sympthom can be dehydration.
These things happened to me. I've managed to solve these problems by reducing physical excercice to the point that my body can cope with. Then I turned the ballance towards more weigt lifting rather than aerobic. The most significant effect had the diet.  I've started with gluten free diet which seemed to work but then tottaly give up cereals and feeling much better.
Also listening music before sleeping and not reading stuff, seems to help.
 

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Re: What is sleep dread?
« Reply #9 on: 09/10/2016 19:24:24 »
... I've started with gluten free diet which seemed to work but then tottaly give up cereals ...
oats are a cereal, but do not contain gluten, ( provided they are not processed in machinery also used to mill wheat ).

Unless you have celiac disease, no benefit in being gluten free.
 
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Re: What is sleep dread?
« Reply #10 on: 11/10/2016 09:31:30 »
I've been looking for articles on sleep dread but haven't found anything helpful, most seem to combine it with General insomnia.
Have you managed to pin down what the source of the anxiety is? E.g. Some people have a fear of not waking up.
 

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« Reply #11 on: 11/10/2016 21:26:28 »
I've been looking for articles on sleep dread but haven't found anything helpful, most seem to combine it with General insomnia.
Have you managed to pin down what the source of the anxiety is? E.g. Some people have a fear of not waking up.

I do not fear not waking up , I don't suppose I would know too much about it if I did not wake up. 
The anxiety is brought on by the fear of trying to sleep. The fear of not been able to sleep and the fear of  lack of rest affecting the function of living and carrying on my everyday tasks.  Because I literally jumped up  out of my sleep the first time around, the thought of this become post traumatic causing a fear of trying to go  to sleep.

I have since changed by bed time, I have set my bed time for about 4 am, this allows my body to know there is lots of time before bed time, making me feel ''safer''.


I now tell myself I can sleep and there is nothing to fear about going to sleep.

Insomnia differs from sleep dread, people with sleep dread can sleep but dread to go to sleep where insomnia is the inability to sleep. When I sleep I do get 7-9 hours.







 

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Re: What is sleep dread?
« Reply #12 on: 12/10/2016 00:10:05 »
I'm glad to hear you've found something that works for you. After a while you should be able to bring sleep time forward bit by bit.
I don't know if this is helpful, but quite a lot of people find mindfulness useful for relaxing, a sort of structured meditation e.g. http://marc.ucla.edu/body.cfm?id=22

Personally, I find a film or music can help me tune out thoughts that keep me awake, or maybe they are so boring I fall asleep anyway.

Hope the improved sleep continues.
 

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« Reply #13 on: 12/10/2016 18:41:13 »
I'm glad to hear you've found something that works for you. After a while you should be able to bring sleep time forward bit by bit.
I don't know if this is helpful, but quite a lot of people find mindfulness useful for relaxing, a sort of structured meditation e.g. http://marc.ucla.edu/body.cfm?id=22

Personally, I find a film or music can help me tune out thoughts that keep me awake, or maybe they are so boring I fall asleep anyway.

Hope the improved sleep continues.

Thank you for the link Colin, I have found it is best to avoid any sound and have a blacked out bedroom avoiding watching television in bed etc.  I do intend to adjust my hours but might do in a way that means I gradually go bed later in the day , say midday then wake up at say 8 at night, then stay awake all through the night and the  next day , hopefully resetting my body clock to sleep at night.  At the moment the Amtrip's seem to be working well in use with also beat blockers.  I do dread when I come off these pill's wondering if I am ''cured'' or as my sleep become dependent to the med's. 

Time will tell ....

 

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Re: What is sleep dread?
« Reply #14 on: 12/10/2016 23:09:33 »
I do dread when I come off these pill's wondering if I am ''cured'' or as my sleep become dependent to the med's. 

Time will tell ....
I know people who have used this and other drugs and have been completely ok after coming off them. I think it's like breaking a leg, you might need a crutch for a while, but it doesn't mean forever.
Sounds as though you are doing all the right things and finding what works for you.
All the best, hope it goes well.
 

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