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#### socratus

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##### The stopping Light quanta.
« on: 28/03/2007 18:06:27 »

Quantum Theory says mass increases with speed increase
and becomes  infinite when a mass reaches speed of light:c=1.
Which is against the
“Law of conservation and transformation energy/mass”.
But we know the quantum of light is real particle and
its mass is particular and not infinite.
And the scientists invented an artful way: the quantum
does not possess the mass of rest and it is always in motion.
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The quantum of light has not mass of rest equal to zero.
But…….
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The Soviet/Russian academic S. Vavilov  suggested an
interesting idea. In his book ' Isaac Newton' he wrote.
The force, according to the Newton,s Second Law,
is equal to : F= ma.
This force is possible to consider as absolute independent
quantity - impulse. When in case with light quanta
the impulse is equal to: mc.
He continued.
Let us now imagine that light quanta falls on a black body,
and  it absolutely absorbs this light quanta
( it means light quanta stops).
Then, according to the Lebedev,s law, light quanta
renders pressure on the black body: E/c.
Therefore it is possible to write: mc=E/c.
It means that according to Classic physics the stopping
light quanta has not mass of rest equal to zero, but
it has  potential energy/mass: M=E/c^2. (E=Mc^2).
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Of course the potential energy/mass of light quanta
can transform in its kinetic energy.
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#### socratus

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##### The stopping Light quanta.
« Reply #1 on: 15/04/2007 12:42:33 »
How quantum of light can move in vacuum?
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The planets travel without friction in vacuum,
it means the vacuum is an empty space.
The light waves are transverse waves therefore
it means the vacuum must be as firm as steel
How quantum of light can move in such
unintelligibly vacuum?
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The point is that light consists actually of two waves,
an electric wave and a magnetic wave.
According to Maxwell's equations, both induce and thus
maintain each other mutually, and thus there is no need
for a medium and the light can propagate in a vacuum.
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I also studied this conception 50 years ago.
But ...50 years have pasted...
And now I cannot take the school conception as true one.
Why ?  Because:
1.
I think it is impossible that electric and magnetic
waves are existed at the same time. Between them
very short rupture of time must be.
Then in some moment light will be an electrical wave,
and in another moment a magnetic wave will be .
But this electrical waves must be transverse waves,
it means, that vacuum is as firm as steel.
Unless, am I wrong ?
2.
It is 100% right that " an electric wave and a magnetic wave,
according to Maxwell's equations, both induce and thus
maintain each other mutually". But this statement
is right only according to classic ( macro) electrodynamics.
When Maxwell's electrodynamics is used in the microworld,
then it needs to take an idea of " quantum of light ".
3.
It is not correct to use common word "light" in the quantum theory.
The word "light" is possible to use on a beach, in a market
in every another place, but not in the quantum theory.
Here it is necessary to say " quantum of light ".
4.
And now everybody knows that light quanta is
a wave and particle at the same time.
And when somebody says : " that light consists actually
of two waves, an electric wave and a magnetic wave " ,
He forgets photon as a particle. The usage of only waves
abilities is not enough to explain photon’s moving.
The picture of photon acting is not full.
Then.......
If we want to see the whole picture of photon’s moving
we must imagine that photon in its moving jumps
from an electric wave to a magnetic wave and back,
from a magnetic wave to an electric  wave and back,
and back........
I see my explanation is difficult.
Maybe it is better and simpler to imagine the photon
driving on a bicycle when one wheel is an electric  wave
and another wheel is a magnetic wave.
Sorry.
I only want to say that to use sentences :
“ light quanta is wave and particle at the same time”,
“ light consists actually of two waves, an electric wave
and a magnetic wave in its moving in a vacuum “ is not correct.
P.S.
Imitating to some methodology.

There are birds who can walk, fly and swim.
The birds who don’t have one of these abilities
are not  birds.
/ According to complementarity and the
Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics./
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#### socratus

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##### The stopping Light quanta.
« Reply #2 on: 19/04/2007 15:11:37 »
One brief thought.
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1.
Where does the quanta h come from?
The constant  h Planck took  from heaven and
brought it into physics.
2.
At the interaction of the electron with the vacuum,
the energy and mass of it become infinite, it means
that electron disappeared in the heaven.
Maybe, therefore the energy of vacuum is not equal to zero.
3.
Between constant h and electron there is
constant a (fine structure constant) .
What does this constant mean?
This constant remained unknown in modern physics and
on  Feynman's  expression  that this quantity is
" by the god given damnation to all physicists ".
4.
I want to say, that the constant  h comes from heaven
and the electron goes to heaven and still nobody knows
what light quanta, electron and vacuum are.
Maybe, therefore the interpretation of physics
Maybe, therefore the physicists make measuring
not understanding the deep essence of the processes .
5.
We used to think that if we knew one, we knew two,
because one and one are two. We are finding
that we must learn a great deal more about `and'.
/Sir Arthur Eddington /
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