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« Reply #25 on: 19/10/2007 15:15:44 »
We know tectonic plate movements recycle the rocks by causing a conveyor belt system where the surface is pulled down and more debris is pulled up to replace it. What we don’t know is how often this occurs and how many times the rocks at the surface of the planet have been recycled in this never ending flow and return system.
Yes we do. Please stop making inaccurate statements based upon your own incredulity. Just because you cannot understand something does not mean it is not true.
 

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« Reply #26 on: 19/10/2007 18:27:04 »
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Meteorite is quite another value then rain. Most older lithosphere plate is Europe. Almost half of this continental plate is under seas and oceans for billion years.There was not any recycle circulation for billion years. Maybe all meteorites on the surface of Europe have saled. Where are meteorites from seas and oceans depths?
  Meteorite has different isotopes of chemical elements. this is connected to the formation of different planetary mass objects. No one force can change this isotopes during recycling.  Oxygen has important percent into planets. different recycling isotopes of oxygen are insignificant (0.00...01%) as well as another elements.


Main law of Cosmogeology: (Law of circulation)

    everything started from nuclear reactions, and everything finished into nuclear reactions. Then everything started again

FIRST LAW OF COSMOGEOLOGY: (LAW OF GEOEVOLUTION)

-  Every spacebody has four main phases of geoevolution.
1.  Gaseous stage. - The whole mass of body consists of red-hot gas, which becomes liquid little      by little.
2. Liquid stage. – The whole mass of the body is in the liquid condition; only the inner nucleus of the heavy metals can be solid.
3. Mixed stage. – The body has formed the all nine geolayers.
4.Solid stage. – The All nine geolayers are in the solid condition and its geoevolution is over. Impossible EB geotransfer, volcano eruption and crustquake.
 
  Second law of Cosmogeology (LAW OF INCRESCENT)
 
VOLUME  OF  ALL  SPACEBODIES,  ARE  INCREASING DURING  GEOEVOLUTION,   FROM  LIQUID   TO   THE  SOLID   CONDITIONS.
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« Reply #27 on: 19/10/2007 18:49:53 »
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agreement to our opponent is very difficult. He is not blame. He has studyed false Safronov's theory and he believe a lot this false.
 

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« Reply #28 on: 19/10/2007 23:31:40 »
These are not laws, they are assumptions!

1. atomic particles attracted to each other align in the same way that magnets align. In space providing the forces of each atomic particle is balanced by apposing force from other atoms, no net movement through space. more particles attracted to the slowly developing solid, all nice and cool, no massive melt down, why would there be?

Atomic particles align but not perpendicularly, during the initial growth the newly forming mass begins to rotate due to the way particles align at a slight angle to the mass rather than directly apposing other particles. This angle is sufficient to cause rotation, much the same a sperm causes an egg to rotate when it attaches itself. Penetration of the egg happens with the first swimming sperm, but the sperm causes the egg to rotate. All subsequent eggs attaching merely serve to cause the egg to rotate faster. Waiting to get knuckles wrapped for this one also.

Back to planet. Once initial rotation of the mass is in place, the majority of further particles attracted will inevitably be on a slight angle, Rotation may also be initiated by other neighbouring planets rotating, like the cogs in a gearbox cause rotation in the opposite direction. Had not thought of this till now, but this could easily be checked. I have not taken note of the rotation of neighbouring planets so don’t know if they rotate in the opposite direction to their neighbouring planets.
More particles attracted, each particle cancelling out the pushing force of opposing particles but multiplying the attracting force. = gravity

Incorrect to state cancelling out pushing force because as the mass increases very slowly the friction between the collective pushing force of all the aligned atoms becomes so great during the slow development of the planet that heat is generated. As the planet becomes bigger the core becomes unstable and the friction causes rocks to melt and radioactive process to develop. At this point tectonic plate movement begins causing the first earthquakes and volcanoes. Then as the gravitational field

So really this theory is not that much different to the accepted theories except for the big melt down part from dust to planet happening at a far different rate and timescale than previously believed. This theory says the melt down will not happen for unimaginable numbers of years to come. Which is why I keep trying to emphasise it may not be prudent to try to date the Earth or any other planet.


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Meteorite is quite another value then rain. Most older lithosphere plate is Europe. Almost half of this continental plate is under seas and oceans for billion years.There was not any recycle circulation for billion years. Maybe all meteorites on the surface of Europe have saled. Where are meteorites from seas and oceans depths?
  Meteorite has different isotopes of chemical elements. this is connected to the formation of different planetary mass objects. No one force can change this isotopes during recycling.  Oxygen has important percent into planets. different recycling isotopes of oxygen are insignificant (0.00...01%) as well as another elements.


Main law of Cosmogeology: (Law of circulation)

    everything started from nuclear reactions, and everything finished into nuclear reactions. Then everything started again

FIRST LAW OF COSMOGEOLOGY: (LAW OF GEOEVOLUTION)

-  Every spacebody has four main phases of geoevolution.
1.  Gaseous stage. - The whole mass of body consists of red-hot gas, which becomes liquid little      by little.
2. Liquid stage. – The whole mass of the body is in the liquid condition; only the inner nucleus of the heavy metals can be solid.
3. Mixed stage. – The body has formed the all nine geolayers.
4.Solid stage. – The All nine geolayers are in the solid condition and its geoevolution is over. Impossible EB geotransfer, volcano eruption and crustquake.
 
  Second law of Cosmogeology (LAW OF INCRESCENT)
 
VOLUME  OF  ALL  SPACEBODIES,  ARE  INCREASING DURING  GEOEVOLUTION,   FROM  LIQUID   TO   THE  SOLID   CONDITIONS.
 www.cosmogeology.ge


 

 

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« Reply #29 on: 20/10/2007 18:08:46 »
After powerful eruption from galaxy nucleus our Earth had temperature of many thousand degrees. It was in the tail of the Sun. The mass of Earth was huge heavy atom-nuclear gaseous huge splash.  It was gaseous mixtures mass.  During the first moments of eruption, the Moon was formed from this gaseous splash during extension. It can be hardly said, that the Earth can’t be able to capture the Moon during eruption. We must have to take into consideration, that the speed of gaseous masses is equal for thousand of (km/sec) during start stage. Significant declination of Moon orbit from Earth’s equatorial platitude is caused by the Sun’s gravity. The Moon we can see always from the same side. Everything almost proves that the Moon was formed from the Earth’s gaseous mixtures during the extension process after eruption from galaxy nucleus. The gaseous mixture of the Earth together with the formation began rotation movement around the Sun. Earth began to turn in the liquid condition little by little. (Cooling process   of the Earth lasts for milliard years). During formation our Earth's liquid outer layer its  gasses were continuing changing into liquid condition little by little.
      At the liquid stage of planet Earth geoevolution started the process of G liquid heavy metal nucleus formation . Chemical elements make up the Earth crust is characterized with following common regularity. The heavy atom-nucleuses are more rarity in the Earth crust. According to the geoevolution regulation, main mass of iron and heavier iron metals were accumulated in the Earth nucleus. In the Earth metal nucleus following regularity is kept. More the metal density, deeper it is located into metal nucleus. Iron, nickel and lead have high percentage in metal nucleus then other metals. Main reason of the Earth dipolar magnetic field is its inner metallic nucleus. High percentage level of lead into nucleus is connected with the radioactive decomposition.
 Evidence. Observing every image of spiral galaxies we can understand, all stars are formed after eruption from spiral galaxy nucleus.
 Explanation. Sun is tiny model of the galaxy nucleus. galaxy nucleus has Sun sized spots. Planets are forming by spots. stars are forming by hydrogen-helium masses of the galaxy nucleus. Eruption is reason of nuclear reactions into  nucleus of the spiral galaxy.
 

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« Reply #30 on: 21/10/2007 16:55:39 »
sentences about the universe.
Eruptioned new stars from our galaxy nucleus are discovered.
Sun spots consist of oxides end different chemical admixtures. They are discovered too.
Protuberance is tiny model of eruption from galaxy nucleus.
Active Sun spots mean nuclear reactions into spots.
Spots of galaxy nucleus are source of planetary mass objects.
Young galaxies have small branches, old galaxies have long brunches. Development of brunches are evidence stars formation from the central nucleus.
 

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« Reply #31 on: 22/10/2007 18:43:08 »
New sentences about the universe.
In the center of (old) spiral galaxy is discovered (giant) black hole.
remaines of stars are (small) Black holes too.
Star is small model of spiral galaxy active central nucleus.
Spiral galaxy’s activ central nucleus can die as the star, after eruption almost all stars, and it's remnant is giant black hole of course.  
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« Reply #32 on: 10/11/2007 15:00:54 »
Ok people. I'm new here, so Hi.

I shall try and work to an acceptable standard within the forums, and as such I have landed here to raise a few queestions. Of I am in the wrong place then maybe one could direct me to a better place.

The New Scientist article was interesting, but it ignores that Mars (a smaller body than Earth) has some evidence of possible Tectonic history.

My questions are these. It seems there is little explanation as to how the plates formed in the first place (though similarities between the area surrounding the Red Sea and Vallis Marineris on Mars might suggest that such works simply on weaknesses within the crust formed by volcanic actions.) Also, the arguments that I ahve seen before suggest that Mars as a smaller body cooled more rapidly than Earth, and hence the lack of activity. However, Io, a smaller body, is seen to be very active - such activity surely a result of the massive tidal gravitational influences of its neighbours. Is it just coincidence that Earth has a moon and tectonic activity, while Venus (a similarly sized planet) and Mars have no (significant) moon and have no tectonic activity?
 

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« Reply #33 on: 10/11/2007 16:39:08 »
Which force could create  Vallesmarineris? when crust is thin at the beginning stage of geoevolution asteroid impact could create one huge rim and huge magma basin inside. Asteroid impact on the thick crust could create huge deep crater and few huge rims around...???

   Because Mars is spacebody second law of cosmogeology is law for Mars too. There are deleted a lot of tracks of events on the Mars by atmosphere dust circulation, but huge track of one of the last event was left (Vallesmarineris). In the centre of Vallesmarineris is huge arc-crack pouring with liquid magma (now petrified).  -EB- geotransfer could split huge continental platforms, because that is rule of -EB- geotransfer, but it never could form such huge destructions into the central places of Vallesmarineris between thick lithosphere platforms. -EB- geotransfer could easily destroy thin lithosphere tiles. Centre of  Vallesmarineris has only one explanation... (ASTEROID IMPACT + EB-GEOTRANSFER).  Detail explanation  of this event you never find in the Geology or in the Astronomy.  This huge geological force of the Mars still unknown for mankind and geologists too,  but geoforces into spacebodies are same. Huge masses, part of destroyed crust in the centre was deleted (destroyed, submerged and melted) by huge outflows from asthenosphere.  There were  formed a lot of small crustbergs as the evidences of -EB- geotransfer. Magma could not fill  Vallesmarineris and could not create huge mountains chains around because east direction was fully opened. Huge outflow and wild streams could destroy not only raptured centre of Vallesmarineris, there was destroyed east side too. In this case, asteroid impact was detonator of -EB- geotransfer  (EVENT) because impossible another explanation of  huge crust masses disappearance.

Vallesmarineris, this huge crack was formed by increscent forces of coarse. After  -EB- geotransfer diameter of  the Mars was increased. There was increased surface area of the Mars too and because there were formed many huge cracks on the surface by this event time and Vallesmarineris too.

absence of wide huge destroyed crust masses into centre of Vallesmarineris (across of huge crack) proves that, split of huge continental crust platforms was rapidly. Disappearance of huge destroyed  wide costal crusts-masses proves that, After event they were submerged and melted into red-hot asthenosphere ocean of the Mars. Evaporating of this huge crust masses was imposable. because before Evaporating solid chemical admixtures had a liquid stage. There are very many partially melted crust lines, remains of crustbergs on the surface of Vallesmarineris... Everything proves that, destroyed crust geolayers by asteroid impact were melted into temporary opened asthenosphere of the Mars. Mountains chains formation was imposable near to this huge split-area. Mountains chains were not formed during rapidly split, of our Africa-American platforms,  to the costs of Atlantic ocean. There are not same all split-lines accros of modern Africa-American platforms.  There were submerged and melted part of costal crust-masses, (small part of destroyed costal zones) into red-hot ocean of asthenosphere. Everything proves... there were rapidly split of the platforms  65 million years ago with destroyed small part of costal split-zones.

Why was melted destroyed huge crust masses. Because There was increasing temperature into B geosphere During -EB-geotransfer. Of course temperature into outer nucleus is too much, then into  asthenosphere. Now we can explain about partially melted crust lines into Vallesmarineris, and about disappearance huge central crust masses almost equally of our Australia. -EB- geotransfer can explain everything...

IT MEANS MY THEORY, COSMODEOLOGYCAL THEORY IS TRUE!!!
www.cosmogeology.ge

1. Same increscent forces.

2. Same -EB- geotransfers.

3. Same Huge outflow from own asthenosphere of spacebodies.

4. Same asteroids impacts as the detonator of -EB- geotransfers; on the Mars, Moon, Earth...

5. Same formation magma seas and oceans (of course now petrified)

6. Same formation of small crustbergs on the magma seas and oceans.

7. Same disappearance of destroyed and melted crust  costal masses (especially of burst parts).
http://www.cosmogeology.ge/evidences.htm

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« Reply #34 on: 26/11/2007 13:19:38 »
I've tried a number of times to understand what it is you are saying, but I'm sorry to say that it seems to make no sense.

You say that; Mountains chains formation was imposable near to this huge split-area. Mountains chains were not formed during rapidly split, of our Africa-American platforms,  to the costs of Atlantic ocean. and;Magma could not fill  Vallesmarineris and could not create huge mountains chains around because east direction was fully opened.

That isn't how mountain ranges are formed. They are formed by the pressure of one tectonic plate coming up against another and 'buckling' or 'folding' the material - evidenced by the raising of a section of the Himalayas by up to 5 metres following the 2005 Kasmir earthquake, and the raising of coral reefs out of the water by the Indonesian Earthquake of 2004. In fact it is the appearance of such a mountain range that might offer evidence of possible former tectonic plate activity upon Mars (in a region S to SW of the Marineris.

I just don't see any evidence, at all, that the Marineris has been caused by anything like an impact, being nothing like a crater. One might want to see the Hellas basin for the results of a massive impact.
 

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« Reply #35 on: 01/12/2007 17:34:31 »
You don't know anything about my theory. It is impossible to explain here everything.I can send for you the modern cosmogeological theory as the attach file but your E-mail is hidden.
 

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