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#### socratus

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##### About: i^2= -1, pi=3,14, e=2,71
« on: 07/06/2007 16:03:38 »
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The numbers rule at Universe .
/ Pythagoras' theory /
Which numbers?
At first: i^2=-1, h, h=h/2pi and electrons parameters.
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My question is :
Can imaginary and transcendental quantities belong to a real particle?
1.
Take, for example, Dirac,s sea.
The particles in this sea are negative, virtual, imaginary.
2.
The Dirac,s sea is not warm place, but very cold one.
In this cold space there are own laws.
For example.
According to  J. Charles law ( 1787),
when the temperature falls down on 1 degree
the volume decreases on 1/273. And when the
temperature reaches -273 degree the volume
disappears and  particles become  "flat figures ".
The " Charles law" was confirmed by other physicists:
Gay-Lussac, Planck, Nernst, Einstein .
These " flat figures " have the geometrical form of a circle,
as from all flat figures  the circle has the most
optimal form:  C/D=pi= 3,14.
This is  one of condition of " imaginary" particles.
3.
Can these " imaginary" particles become "real" ?
Of course.
How?
To use Goudsmit - Uhlenbeck's impulse / spin  (h = h/ 2pi).
And as result  they acquire volume.
With volume they acquire also mass, charge, energy.
4.
Quantum theory says:
when electron interacts with vacuum, its physical parameters
become infinite. But such statement  contradicts the
"Law of conservation and transformation energy".
And then we should understand and accept that when the
physical parameters of electron disappear (become infinite)
it  become  " flat figure ".
We dont need to dream of "a method of renormalization".
5.
The " imaginary" particle is a "real " particle.
The numbers; i^2= -1, pi=3,14, e=2,71
belong to the " imaginary" particle.
6.
Mathematics is not written for mathematicians.
Mathematics is written for physics, for Nature.
The numbers do not exist only for itself.
The "real" numbers exist in connection with "real" particles.
And the "imaginary " numbers also exist in connection with
"imaginary " particles.
The "imaginary " particles are not hard, steel particles.
Their geometrical form can change.
This change is explained with Lobachevsky/ Bolyai geometry.
This change is explained with the Lorentz transformations.
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Some quotations.
"A mathematician is a blind man in a dark room
looking for a black cat which isn't there"
/ Charles R. Darwin./
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As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality,
they are not certain,
and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.
/ Albert Einstein./
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#### Bored chemist

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##### About: i^2= -1, pi=3,14, e=2,71
« Reply #1 on: 07/06/2007 20:42:41 »
"Can imaginary and transcendental quantities belong to a real particle?"
are No and Yes respectively. I'm a lot more certain about the transendentals.

#### socratus

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##### About: i^2= -1, pi=3,14, e=2,71
« Reply #2 on: 07/06/2007 22:47:24 »
"Can imaginary and transcendental quantities belong to a real particle?"
are No and Yes respectively. I'm a lot more certain about the transendentals.
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Hi Israel,
Thanks for the article.
I also think that pi is built into physical matter and elementary particles.
The momentum of an electron is h /wavelength and its spin
or angular momentum is 1/2 x h/2pi .
Where does the 2 pi come in?
In order to contain 2 pi in its spin, the electron must be circular
in some sense -- my electron model contains circular motion
along a closed helix (and therefore has a finite structure).
And imaginary numbers are often used in engineering to describe
phase relations, which can occur in my electron model also,
for example in the closed double-looped helical structure.
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Hi Israel,
Your friend might be on the right track.
He says "pi exists because there is perception rotation.
Real particles are trapped energy which exhibits the appearance
of rotation.  pi is exhibited as it relates angular (trapped) and linear
(free) momentum exhibiting mass and energy respectively."
I wonder what he would think of my electron model which also
contains rotation and trapped energy and trapped momentum.
You are welcome to forward it and the video link to him for his comments.
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Photon and Electron Models.

http://superluminalquantum.org/STAIF-2007article.pdf

Richard Gauthier
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##### About: i^2= -1, pi=3,14, e=2,71
« Reply #2 on: 07/06/2007 22:47:24 »