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« on: 22/06/2007 22:22:18 »
in last Weeks radio show, Chris asked the following question in an interview:

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Chris: Finally, talking about things leaching into other things, what about when people try to dispose of bodies in environments like peat bogs, where bodies are very rapidly dissipated. Can you tell from samples of peat if there was a body there?


How long would it take for the body to decompose enough to be unidentifiable and good enough to nourish my garden? Also, would this be my best way of disposing of a person i have just...you know..


 

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« Reply #2 on: 22/06/2007 22:35:34 »


I was only thinking out aloud, you honour. Still, does anyone have an anser except me going straight to jail without collecting 200
 

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« Reply #3 on: 28/06/2007 20:41:51 »
Paul, lad, I feel that Chris may have misled you, at last to the way I understand the chemistry. Peat bogs where bodies have been found are normally acidic and are oxygen poor. Tannic acid is used to tan leather. Thus there is no decomposition. I would NOT dispose of the body in a bog.

Try a vat of muriatic acid.
 

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« Reply #4 on: 28/06/2007 21:04:17 »
Acids do a good job on bones and a fair job on muscle tissue but a very poor job of disposing of fats.
A recent TV show illustrated how good modern dishwashing detergents are. A week with hot water and enzymatic detergent left beautifully clean bones. They, in turn, could be dissolved in acid.
 

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« Reply #5 on: 08/07/2007 17:22:32 »
ill bet u wudnt wanna b buried in a peat bog!! lol
i no i wudnt!!!
 

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« Reply #6 on: 09/07/2007 15:28:00 »
ill bet u wudnt wanna b buried in a peat bog!! lol
i no i wudnt!!!

personally, no. But i have a list of candidates!
 

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« Reply #7 on: 11/07/2007 03:25:53 »
lol dont even want to know!! lol
 

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« Reply #8 on: 11/07/2007 03:32:49 »
me neither lol
 

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« Reply #9 on: 11/07/2007 03:51:08 »
who was it who needed to be "taken care of"
 

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« Reply #10 on: 12/07/2007 01:00:42 »
who was it who needed to be "taken care of"

was! my dear Nic, i still have a list of candidates. But it is so hard to choose just one !!!
 

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« Reply #11 on: 06/08/2007 21:26:17 »
Peat bogs where bodies have been found are normally acidic and are oxygen poor. Tannic acid is used to tan leather. Thus there is no decomposition. I would NOT dispose of the body in a bog.

yeah, you are right, think of all those neolithic bodies found mummified.  When I was a young post grad researcher I went to a conference where an american lady presented a paper about putting pigs in jeans and then burying them in peat bogs.  It was alright, the police where sponsoring her and it was all done in the name of science.  It seems that pigs have a similar skin to humans.  The plan was to bury several pigs wearing jeans in different environments and see how the decomposition changed with environmental factors.  The police were going to take the results and apply them to murder victims.  She had just buried the pigs and I always wondered what the results were.

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« Reply #12 on: 06/08/2007 22:52:37 »
Do you remember her name Pete - perhaps we could look up the results?
 

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« Reply #13 on: 07/08/2007 18:30:40 »
Do you remember her name Pete - perhaps we could look up the results?
Come on now Chris! there has been much beer consumed since then.  But I'm guessing that these are the relevant papers.


France DL, Griffin TJ, Swanburg JG, Lindemann JW, Davenport GC, Trammell V, Travis CT, Kondratieff B, Nelson A, Castellano K, Hopkins D (1992) A mutidisciplinary approach to the detection of clandestine graves. J Forensic Sci 37:14451458 
 
France DL, Griffin TJ, Swanburg JG, Lindemann JW, Davenport GC, Trammell V, Travis CT, Kondratieff B, Nelson A, Castellano K, Hopkins D, Adair T (1997) NecroSearch revisited: further multidisciplinary approaches to the detection of clandestine graves. In: Haglund WD, Sorg MH (eds) Forensic taphonomy: the postmortem fate of human remains. CRC Press, Boca Raton, FL, USA, pp497509 


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