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« on: 29/07/2007 16:29:09 »
Space is bad for you if you live in an orbiting space craft......eventually it's fatal yes ?..degradation of bone etc etc ..notwithstanding leaving the protection of earths atmosphere....  (  http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=9175.new#new  )

So, when we eventually start building colonies on the moon,(1) will the gravity there make it all better ?... (2)or will people still have to visit earth periodically to enjoy earth gravity ?... 
 (3) Will there be gravity making revolving things to counteract the gravity differential ?

(4) Will there be compulsory exercise regimes ?
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« Reply #1 on: 29/07/2007 17:09:08 »
(5) Why do you want to go living in the Moon?
 

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« Reply #2 on: 29/07/2007 17:44:43 »
Living on Earth is eventually fatal (unless you know different).

There are, and for the foreseeable future, will remain mandatory exercise regimes; on the other hand, with the regimes as they are, I don't know that we presently have an upper limit indicated on exactly how long we can live in orbit in microgravity.  The problems arise when you come back from microgravity to Earth's gravity.

It may be more of a concern as to what the effects of microgravity might be on a juvenile.

The degree to which spinning units to generate some acceleration force, or to what extent the lesser gravity of the Moon, or Mars, will mitigate against the problems of microgravity is uncertain(at least it should be easier to sit down for a meal, or go to the toilette.
 

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« Reply #3 on: 29/07/2007 18:34:47 »
(5) Why do you want to go living in the Moon?

Because I luff cheese
 

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« Reply #4 on: 29/07/2007 18:41:40 »
Living on Earth is eventually fatal (unless you know different).

There are, and for the foreseeable future, will remain mandatory exercise regimes on the other hand, with the regimes as they are, I don't know that we presently have an upper limit indicated on exactly how long we can live in orbit in microgravity.  The problems arise when you come back from microgravity to Earth's gravity.

Issues like this will have to solved !

It may be more of a concern as to what the effects of microgravity might be on a juvenile.

The degree to which spinning units to generate some acceleration force, or to what extent the lesser gravity of the Moon, or Mars, will mitigate against the problems of microgravity is uncertain(at least it should be easier to sit down for a meal, or go to the toilette.

Thank You George,

As well as coming back to earth posing a problem....... I always thought that living in a non gravitational environment is bad for you. There is no stress put upon your skeletal frame and you begin to wither away ......so an arduous exercise regime is prerequisite for survival !! .....well...perhaps one could survive but maintenance is required for mobility .

It is a problem that will have to be solved.
 

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« Reply #5 on: 29/07/2007 19:23:09 »
As well as coming back to earth posing a problem....... I always thought that living in a non gravitational environment is bad for you. There is no stress put upon your skeletal frame and you begin to wither away ......so an arduous exercise regime is prerequisite for survival !! .....well...perhaps one could survive but maintenance is required for mobility .

It is a problem that will have to be solved.

As you say, some of that might be mitigated by the exercise regime implemented; but equally, if you lose the strength to return to Earth it does not inevitably follow that we would be unable to live in space (where we do not need that strength) for an indefinite time.  I don't know if we really know the answers to such questions yet.  No doubt, the longer we undertake excursions in microgravity, the more we shall find new medical problems and challenges that we had not anticipated, and no doubt we will find other issues we thought to be a problem turn out not to be as difficult to overcome as we expected.
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« Reply #6 on: 29/07/2007 19:57:18 »
All prewar space stations were large doughnut like structures that rotated at such a speed that 'centrifugal' force simulated gravity likewise when astronauts ventured off to another planet they went in a pair of capsules that were held together with a cable that did much the same thing.
Why were such things never built?.
 

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« Reply #7 on: 29/07/2007 22:17:24 »
Space is bad for you if you live in an orbiting space craft......eventually it's fatal yes ?..degradation of bone etc etc ..notwithstanding leaving the protection of earths atmosphere....  (  http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=9175.new#new  )

So, when we eventually start building colonies on the moon,(1) will the gravity there make it all better ?... (2)or will people still have to visit earth periodically to enjoy earth gravity ?... 
 (3) Will there be gravity making revolving things to counteract the gravity differential ?

(4) Will there be compulsory exercise regimes ?

I like your positive thinking.. and when they DO start building colonies will they be large dome environments that are set up to produce gravity within the environment? Is that possible?
 

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« Reply #8 on: 30/07/2007 01:28:49 »
One problem I can see with rotating doughnuts in space is how do you dock with them?

The second problem is that they would need to have a very large diameter - preferably hundreds of metres across, so that the the difference in gravity between the top of a (wo)man's head and his feet are minimised.
 

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« Reply #9 on: 09/04/2009 19:37:17 »
If you did live on the moon, perhaps you would live in a house built by Ikea?

Swedish researchers to build flat-pack house on the moon

The Advertiser

April 09, 2009 10:35am

WHO needs the International Space Station? Swedish researchers are readying a robot to build a flat-pack house on the moon.

They say the small cottage will stand as a symbol of what humankind can achieve, the Advertiser reports.

The project is a collaboration between Sweden's Malardalen University and artist Mikael Genberg, who reportedly has approached the country's flat-pack furniture giant Ikea for sponsorship.

"If you aim for the stars, at least you'll reach the treetops, or even the moon," said Malardalen professor Lars Asplund.

The cottage is to be erected on the moon's surface by 2012 by a small robot known as "Roony", developed by Malardalen.

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Project Roony - http://www.projectroony.com/

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25313749-13762,00.html
 

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« Reply #10 on: 10/04/2009 12:44:22 »
If there is intelligent life out there watching us, they'll shoot us down as soon as they Ikea flat packs being sent into space. I'd shoot down anyone who brought one into my space!

I should think permanent colonies on the Moon would be out of the question. Unless a gravitational field can be mimicked (not a centrifugal affair) any Moon dwellers would have to return to Earth to avoid bone density falling below a dangerous level.
 

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