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What exactly is liquid oxygen?
« on: 08/08/2007 10:05:52 »
What exactly is liquid oxygen, and is there an actual health benefit to adding it to things you drink? I was looking into things or ways to increase my oxygen intake without overdoing anything. I am walking some.. as I walk 100 ft an am worn out which is odd.

So I want to know what it is and what are the Medical Benefits if any?  The health food places claim it to be great stuff!
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« Reply #1 on: 08/08/2007 15:22:06 »
Liquid oxygen is to gaseous oxygen what water is to steam.

To get liquid oxygen you usually have to reduce the temperature to below the temperature where oxygen would normally boil (90.20 K - or -297.31 F), just as you have to cool steam to below the boiling point of water before you get liquid water.  You can get liquid oxygen at higher temperatures, but then you need very high pressures.

I would not suggest drinking liquid oxygen - it would freeze you instantly.
 

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« Reply #2 on: 08/08/2007 21:25:04 »
Thats interesting it is being sold here as a heath product to give your body extra oxygen it needs to work more effectively.. I will get a bottle and read the ingredients.. as I was curious about content and it seemed far fetched.. I will check it out!
 

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« Reply #3 on: 09/08/2007 19:53:36 »
There's no way they are selling liquid oxygen in health food shops- it needs to be kept nearly 200 degrees below freezig or it boils away. That, together with the fact that mixtures of liquid oxygen and any fuel will make a more or less explosive product means there's no way it's on general sale.
I don't know what's in the bottles they sell but I'd invite the local consumer protection people to have a word with the sellers about fraud.
 

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What exactly is liquid oxygen?
« Reply #4 on: 09/08/2007 21:10:59 »
I'm just wondering if it is some sort of peroxide base.

Hydrogen peroxide when added to water releases an extra oxygen ion? I think. It can be used to help stimulate plant root growth by adding some to the plant water.

Drinking it or any oxygenated drink is another thing as I cant see how the body would use it.

 

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What exactly is liquid oxygen?
« Reply #5 on: 09/08/2007 22:23:01 »
There's no way they are selling liquid oxygen in health food shops- it needs to be kept nearly 200 degrees below freezig or it boils away. That, together with the fact that mixtures of liquid oxygen and any fuel will make a more or less explosive product means there's no way it's on general sale.
I don't know what's in the bottles they sell but I'd invite the local consumer protection people to have a word with the sellers about fraud.
I will pick up a bottle when I go back to Eureka.. I was going by what she told me it was , sounded weird to me, thus why I posed this question. Thank you guys..I will post it when I get it! Thanks!
 

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« Reply #6 on: 10/08/2007 12:12:32 »
There's no way they are selling liquid oxygen in health food shops- it needs to be kept nearly 200 degrees below freezig or it boils away. That, together with the fact that mixtures of liquid oxygen and any fuel will make a more or less explosive product means there's no way it's on general sale.
I don't know what's in the bottles they sell but I'd invite the local consumer protection people to have a word with the sellers about fraud.
I will pick up a bottle when I go back to Eureka.. I was going by what she told me it was , sounded weird to me, thus why I posed this question. Thank you guys..I will post it when I get it! Thanks!
Maybe it's a bit of liquid oxigen they add to the food/drink in the manufacturing process to dissolve more oxygen into it. Of course oxygen would become gas immediately, you won't find it at liquid state any longer in the food. Maybe they could use this process even to sterilize the food (I don't know).
What I know is that some firm add solid CO2 (at ≈ -80C) to some foods (e.g. sauces) to sterilize it and to put down its temperature immediately after production. It's not the same thing, of course, even because oxygen is higly oxidyzing and could "damage" (I don't know the proper term in english) some food.
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« Reply #7 on: 10/08/2007 12:17:38 »
Liquid oxygen, wild guess but could it just be a bottle of water? maybe it's just some pseudo science - oxygenated water!
 

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« Reply #8 on: 10/08/2007 13:01:39 »
I am going to go try to buy a bottle today , cause its driving me nuts! I will pm both You and Alberto with the product name and ingredients list when I get it. I bought 2 of their other products and I am assuming the so called liquid oxygen is from the same company! I will check but when I said to her what the heck is liquid oxygen she said, just that.. you pour it in your water or drink and it provides extra oxygen to help your body function better.. LOL
 

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What exactly is liquid oxygen?
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« Reply #10 on: 10/08/2007 13:50:46 »
It kinda sounds like the stuff but the name seemed different just liquid oxygen!..That may be it.. I will check tomorrow!...
 

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« Reply #11 on: 10/08/2007 18:42:56 »
I was under the assumption that it was a regular (330ml) bottle, is it not? I still think it is hokum, save your money Karen. My own opinion is that it's another "indian healing" con from some new age hippies (hate hippies)just like low gi water.
 

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« Reply #12 on: 10/08/2007 22:47:03 »
I don't hate anybody. I have sent you the product information!
 

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« Reply #13 on: 10/08/2007 22:54:24 »
I don't hate anybody. I have sent you the product information!

Not even hippies? ;) I will read it, but i am no expert...on anything.
 

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« Reply #14 on: 10/08/2007 23:03:06 »
Karen. I have read the information you pm'd me. As i suspected, it's a con. Unless Lightarrow say's it's not [:0]

I just did a quick google and found this:

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Vitamin O is a dietary supplement, which has been marketed and sold by Rose Creek Health Products Inc. since 1998. It is not recognized by nutritional science as a vitamin. It has been claimed that taking the supplement has a beneficial effect on a wide variety of ailments, including angina, anaemia, and various forms of cancer, as well as increasing vigour and improving state of mind. The given reason for this is that vitamin O is "a special supplemented oxygen taken in liquid form and produced through electrical-activation with a saline solution from the ocean,"[1] and that the substance increases the amount of oxygen present in the blood. This would in turn promote cellular oxygen uptake.

As a result of the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act, the product could be sold without approval by the Food and Drug Administration, provided claims were never made by the producers of the supplement about its medical efficacy. Rose Creek complied, instead collecting statements from users who attributed wide-ranging benefits to taking it. However, later ads also ran statements from "experts", who provided anecdotal evidence from small-scale clinical trials showing positive results in several patients. Because of this, the Federal Trade Commission filed an injunction in March 1999 against Rose Creek Health Products Inc., stating that the ads being run in both print and online sources, including USA Today, were "blatantly false".[2] Studies run on vitamin O showed it to be composed largely of salt water as well as a small quantity of germanium, which would provide no benefits not attributable to the placebo effect.

On April 28, 2000, Donald L. Smyth, CEO of Rose Creek Health Products Inc., agreed to pay a cash settlement of $375,000 for consumer redress, and to abstain from making claims as to the scientific accuracy of beneficial effects attributed to the supplement, or promoting its efficacy in treating life-threatening illnesses.[3]


[edit] References
^ The Wolfe Clinic, accessed January 3, 2006
^ CNN, "FTC files complaint against 'Vitamin O' makers", published March 16, 1999. Accessed January 3, 2006.
^ Federal Trade Commission, accessed January 3, 2006.
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_O"
 

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« Reply #15 on: 11/08/2007 00:07:07 »
Thanks Paul! I appreciate it.. It sounded so odd.

OK Alberto its now your call! George! OOPs its coming George! Stuart!
 

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« Reply #16 on: 13/08/2007 19:28:54 »
I am pretty sure we had a question that covered this product some time in the past.  Will have to look for it when I have the time.

Basically, that previous discussion (if my recollection serves me correctly) came down to the conclusion that the proper place for oxygen is in the lungs and not in the intestines.  The most likely impact of adding oxygen into the intestines is as an indiscriminate antibiotic that will very probably kill of many of the anaerobic bacteria that live in the intestine and help you digest food.
 

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« Reply #17 on: 13/08/2007 19:39:47 »
Thanks George!
 

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« Reply #18 on: 19/08/2007 17:40:28 »
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About once every decade, the Oxygen Healing myth bubbles to the surface again. Loosely speaking, it claims that all diseases are caused by low levels of oxygen in the body. If you buy brand X or Y or Z's oxygen product, you are guaranteed perfect health. The oxygen treatments go under various names - from the snappy oxyrich, liquid O2, and Vitamin O to the alarmingly scientific hyperoxygenation, oxidology, oxymedicine, and bio-oxidative therapy. Unfortunately for the sufferers of the various diseases, oxygen therapy doesn't cure any of them. (Of course this doesn't include the few heart and lung illnesses where the sufferers need to inhale extra oxygen just to stay alive).

Diseases purportedly cured by oxygen therapy include migraine, cold, flu, deafness, high blood pressure, low blood pressure and irregular blood pressure, as well as skin rash, AIDS, earache, softening of the brain, Down's Syndrome, gum disease, Down's Syndrome, Alzheimers's disease, Parkinson's Disease, AND let's not forget herpes, hepatitis, chronic fatigue syndrome, cytomegalovirus, arthritis, systemic candidiasis, ageing, and (you guessed it) loss of sexual function.

Even though (as I said) there are some heart and lung diseases in which the patient absolutely needs to breathe extra oxygen, the theory behind oxygen therapy is pretty weak. One ludicrous suggestion is that we evolved in an atmosphere that was 30% oxygen and that our current level of 20% oxygen in the atmosphere has left us susceptible to diseases. This is totally wrong. Another similar theory says that our current low levels of oxygen in the atmosphere make the human body more 'acid' and so reduce (what they call) our 'vital energy'. The basic premise of all these theories is that if a little of something is good for you, then more has to be better.

The history of oxygen therapy probably began when Dr I. N. Love published his work in the Journal of the American Medical Association, in 1888. He claimed that applications of hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) could cure cancer of the womb and scarlet fever. In 1919, a Detroit doctor, William F. Koch, claimed that the roots of all human diseases were toxins in the body which could be destroyed by his wonder oxygen chemical, glyoxylide. Not only has this chemical never been found, studies in theoretical chemistry have proved that it cannot be made. Some years later Dr. Otto Warburg, who won two Nobel Prizes in 1931 and 1944, gave the oxygen movement a big lift when he wrongly claimed that cancer cells thrived in low oxygen environments.

Today, there are some half dozen methods offered to get this unnecessary extra oxygen into your body. Practically all of them have no benefit, but they can have side effects ranging from mild up to fatal.

The most popular oxygen-adding method is hydrogen peroxide which can be given as an intravenous injection, a drink, a rectal enema, or just simply poured over wounds. The serious side effects cover burning of the oesophagus, vomiting, stroke and rupture of the colon. Ozone (O3) therapy is probably the second most popular way for delivering extra oxygen. The gas can be passed over open wounds, injected into the muscles and blood vessels, passed into the rectum, or bubbled through a litre of your blood that has been temporarily removed from your body and then replaced.

Other methods of delivering oxygen that are thankfully not popular in Australia include germanium sesqui-oxide and hyperbaric oxygen chambers. Oxygen bars and so called oxygen drinks seem to come and go in popularity.

There is no doubt that hydrogen peroxide is pretty good at cleaning your wooden cutting board and drive way, for giving your hair a gentle bleach, and for disinfecting toothbrushes. But it is definitely not advised to be used inside semi-closed cavities of the body, such as the bowel, and the sinuses in your head. Hyperbaric chambers definitely help in treating decompression sickness, and some forms of radiation damage. But these and other oxygen treatments, while mostly harmless except to your wallet, definitely do not cure the large number of diseases that they are credited with.

The bad science held up as proof of oxygen treatments can be seen in one so-called 'study' from the Dominican Republic. It claimed to have used ozone to cure thirteen people of cancer. But at follow up, two refused to be interviewed, three more could not be proved to have ever had cancer, three could not be proved to have ever existed, three were alive but with cancer, and two had died of cancer.

That cure ratio, 0%, is pretty rotten, but if you're hoping for better results from oxygen therapy, don't hold your breath...

Karl S. Kruszelnicki Pty Ltd 2007.

 

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« Reply #19 on: 19/08/2007 18:42:53 »
Thanks Paul.. That is very informative as people can loose lots of money with little to no benefit! A 16 FL. OZ bottle of the vitamin O is $45.00.. That can really put a wrench in peoples budget.. as they are suggesting a 1/2 teaspoon 2 to 3 times a day under ones tongue! LOL
 

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« Reply #20 on: 19/08/2007 18:45:54 »
i did say it was a con, did i not? Let that be a lesson to you, every now and again i do get something right.
 

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« Reply #21 on: 19/08/2007 19:24:27 »
You did a great Job... LOL i am glad I posed the question.. when I went back I priced it read the bottle and left it there! LOL Thank you.. I did not want to buy something that was crud! LOL..Hugs Paul!
 

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