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Title: Can you make water implode ?
Post by: ADD HAHAHA on 06/04/2005 02:07:50
is it possibile 2 make somin like water implode. the closes i can think is 2 creat a bubble of clorean gas under water the clorean is absorbed so fast it creats a hole in the water.

i'd like a theory on how 2 make somin implode
plz[:D]

Title: Re: Can you make water implode ?
Post by: chris on 13/04/2005 18:01:30
But if you make a bubble of gas collapse (implode) underwater, that's the bubble imploding, rather than the water isn't it.

This is similar to what happens during the process of cavitation - a low pressure created by, for instance, a boat propeller opens up a space in the water which then vigorously collapses back on itself yielding a shockwave and dissipating the energy. When the shockwave strikes something, it can cause small erosions - cavitations - on the surface. In this way boat propellers become eroded over time - by nothing more than collapsing bubbles !



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Title: Re: Can you make water implode ?
Post by: realmswalker on 14/04/2005 00:46:25
what happens if you boil or try to freeze water in a closed space with no room to exspand into?
i feel stupid now :(
Title: Re: Can you make water implode ?
Post by: NakedScientist on 14/04/2005 10:47:10
Trying to boil water in an enclose space with no room for expansion means that the temperature and pressure will rise. This is how steam engines and steam-turbines work.

TNS
Title: Re: Can you make water implode ?
Post by: PhirePhly on 15/04/2005 04:31:37
Assuming you had some infinitely strong material to form a bottle, exactly what would happen to water dropped below the freezing point if it couldn't expand as it froze?

Thanks,
 
L. Lisov
Title: Re: Can you make water implode ?
Post by: Ultima on 15/04/2005 09:53:12
[8)] At a guess wouldn't the pressure increase the colder the container got, as the water tries to expand slightly to freeze. But since the pressure rises this reduces the freezing point of the water, causing it to become super cooled until you reach near absolute zero where some freaky stuff is gunna happen liquid/solid...?

wOw the world spins?
Title: Re: Can you make water implode ?
Post by: ADD HAHAHA on 16/04/2005 05:12:13
if u've ever put a coke or a bottle of wtter in the freezer the container jist brakes
Title: Re: Can you make water implode ?
Post by: daveshorts on 16/04/2005 11:35:34
quote:
Assuming you had some infinitely strong material to form a bottle, exactly what would happen to water dropped below the freezing point if it couldn't expand as it froze?

Ice can form several crystal structures at high pressures, which are denser than normal ice.

http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PETROLGY/Ice%20Structure.HTM

has an explanation of most of the structures they have found so far. From reading the phase diagram I think if you froze water in an infinitely strong container you would form a mixture of normal ice I, and ice III which has a different structure and a density of 1.14g/cc

There are other forms of high pressure ice, with different structures


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