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On the Lighter Side => That CAN'T be true! => Topic started by: christianchick on 23/03/2004 16:02:40

Title: LIZZIE BORDEN
Post by: christianchick on 23/03/2004 16:02:40
Lizzie borden took an ax gave her mother 40 whacks, when she saw what she had done gave her brother 41,

ok this is based on a real story, so what possesses people to do something like that is it a chemical imbalance or what? i mean to kill not only your mother but your brother and actually count how many times you whack them, you think you would come to your senses[xx(]

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Title: Re: LIZZIE BORDEN
Post by: CsManiacDan on 23/03/2004 18:51:11
Hello Again!

I think that there are a number of Mental disorders that could cause someone to go completely loopy like that. Schizophrenia (don't pick me up on the spelling) or something like that.

Of course there are just some complete psychos out there (aka Ian Huntley) who have claimed to be mad.
What causes these disorders is another matter though.

Any ideas.

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Title: Re: LIZZIE BORDEN
Post by: MayoFlyFarmer on 24/03/2004 00:43:26
Mosy permanent mental disorders that we have some clue about deal with a lack or over abundance of transmission in the brain of one, or a combination of neurotransmitors (seratonin, epinephrine, etc)  This can either come apart by a loss of neurons, or some sort of chemical manipulation.  Remember that your cells resopn at different rates to stimuli, and that stimuli can come from other cells, chemicals you put into your body, or physical influences outside of your body.  Some stimuli may lead to a long term mental disorder, but it is possible that conditions might just be right to create a very temporary but severe imbalance in your brain.

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Title: Re: LIZZIE BORDEN
Post by: Donnah on 24/03/2004 02:21:19
When my brain chemistry was messed up with mercury I thought some pretty weird stuff.  It seemed rational at the time, but in retrospect (with normal chemistry) I was whakko.  It's like trying to walk normally with knees that won't bend.
Title: Re: LIZZIE BORDEN
Post by: MayoFlyFarmer on 24/03/2004 14:17:53
I like your qualifier, Donnah, in respect to normal chemistry... its important to remember that everything is relaitive and what we see as normal is completely based on what we are used to.  If everyone had Hg in their brain all the time, the way you'd been thinking would have been considered "normal"

When 900 years you reach look as good you will not, hmm??
Title: Re: LIZZIE BORDEN
Post by: Donnah on 25/03/2004 02:15:07
That's a good point Justin.  It's also part of why the cycle of abuse continues from generation to generation.  When you grow up knowing only abuse you think it is normal.  Somehow you must step outside the current paradigm to see that there are other possibilities.
Title: Re: LIZZIE BORDEN
Post by: christianchick on 25/03/2004 13:54:19
kind of like the communist and what they did to the people of the U.S.S.R, poor people

i have been here longer yet you seem to be more advanced...


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Title: Re: LIZZIE BORDEN
Post by: MayoFlyFarmer on 25/03/2004 18:22:16
Could you explain your comparison?  It intrests me, but I'm not sure if I see exactly where you're coming from.

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Title: Re: LIZZIE BORDEN
Post by: christianchick on 26/03/2004 14:24:59
who are you talking to, if to me, well the opressed people never saw anything outside there world so they thought they were in the normal way of life, they never really desired more, beacuse they didn't know you could have more

and if you were not talking to me then thanks for reading anywayz[:)]

i have been here longer yet you seem to be more advanced...
Title: Re: LIZZIE BORDEN
Post by: MayoFlyFarmer on 26/03/2004 15:59:13
you, you're the one.  thatnk for explaining though, I see your point.

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