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General Science => General Science => Topic started by: blue_cristal on 21/06/2008 16:13:38
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A new study reveals that this widespread perception is supported by evidence.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19826614.100?DCMP=ILC-hmts&nsref=top1_head_Bad%20guys% (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19826614.100?DCMP=ILC-hmts&nsref=top1_head_Bad%20guys%)
What is your informed opinion ?
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A new study reveals that this widespread perception is supported by evidence.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19826614.100?DCMP=ILC-hmts&nsref=top1_head_Bad%20guys% (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19826614.100?DCMP=ILC-hmts&nsref=top1_head_Bad%20guys%)
What is your informed opinion ?
Yes it is correct.
Most women prefer to go out with violent thugs who will beat them up.
Every day i see acres of newsprint about such women whining and saying hey!..look at poor little me,...so and so... whamed bammed and thank you maamed me...i am pregnant and have no where to go...
well tough.
you made your choice so make the best of it.
They should stop whining when they get dumped with a couple of black eyes and suffer violence and abuse as they go to such thugs willingly and in the full knowledge this will happen.Even when they the reputation of such men in advance they will still go to them like fish to water.
Zero sympathy for such women and every time i come across such articles i skip it.
they don't deserve my time...much less my sympathy.
This article just proves the willingness of women to go to drunkards and thugs willingly.
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Not all women, clearly, but there are certainly many which are more attracted by men which are not Very much interested in them. The more you show your interest to such women, the lower the probability to have a relationship with them; it's a hard life for tender and sensitive men...
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Most women prefer to go out with violent thugs who will beat them up.
I think you have been hyperbolic in this statement. Usually, the "bad guys" are bad to other men, not to women. A lot of them are kind and gentle to their women.
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NobodySavedMe, a number of your posts have been to a greater or lesser extent offensive, puerile rubbish.
Where this is restricted to issues subject to questions of science and technology, you come across as irritating and paranoid. On this sort of more political question your ill thought out generalisations do nothing to improve anyone's opinion of your ability to assess evidence in the nuanced way required to consider the shades-of-grey of the real world and our understanding of it.
Please, either think before you type or shut up.
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Well said.
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Women search for good mates that will be genetically compatable with themselves but show that they will be good providers for the little ones once they come. Because we are all animals the prehistoric part of our brain still searches out a mate that would seem to be a good hunter. A good hunter has to be strong and tough and a little bit, well, bad. The brain is not being logical and hasn't caught up with the fact that todays good provider is intelligent and has a good job in the city. They don't need any fishing our hunting skills any more.
It has also been shown that both men and women tend to marry people that are like their parents as this is seen as the blue print for their relationship. My husband has characteristics of both my Mum and my Dad.
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The brain is not being logical and hasn't caught up with the fact that todays good provider is intelligent and has a good job in the city. They don't need any fishing our hunting skills any more.
Are you saying that womens' brains are defective...?!! You'll be saying that mens' brains are in their trousers next...oops, so they are; my mistake!!
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I'm a good boy. Lots of girllies want me, and one has hadd me for a yearr :). Haha, but like teenageaged girls want bad guys just cuz, but like later in life, they will want a guy that's good. That's how I see it. I've thought alot on this topic, but its way off topic to post here.
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The fan mail that inmates on death row receive is evidence that some women have a pathological attraction to "bad guys".
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NobodySavedMe, a number of your posts have been to a greater or lesser extent offensive, puerile rubbish.
Where this is restricted to issues subject to questions of science and technology, you come across as irritating and paranoid. On this sort of more political question your ill thought out generalisations do nothing to improve anyone's opinion of your ability to assess evidence in the nuanced way required to consider the shades-of-grey of the real world and our understanding of it.
Please, either think before you type or shut up.
NOBODYSAVEDME
If you wish to continue as a member of this forum i would take note of the message from Rosy above.
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I hope nobodysavedme is being devils advocate. no one can be that ignorant.
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The brain is not being logical and hasn't caught up with the fact that todays good provider is intelligent and has a good job in the city. They don't need any fishing our hunting skills any more.
Are you saying that womens' brains are defective...?!! You'll be saying that mens' brains are in their trousers next...oops, so they are; my mistake!!
I didn't say anything of the sort. I said that when it comes to attraction the genes take over. Men do the same thing. they look for nurturing women, quite often with child bearing hips.
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I look for the strong "alpha male", but I don't like a guy who will be mean to me. Actually, my first husband was into wrestling so I was drawn to him, but he was a jerk to me so I left him. I thought I found a nice wimpy guy after that, we had kids and got married, but he's in the Navy so I didn't live with him until after we already had the kids (everything happened so fast after I left my first husband). Anyway I've been quite disappointed that my "nice guy" is a macho jerk too. :( I was so sure he was sweet, he totally bait and switched me.
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Some women go for some men, surely but not all women...
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Women search for good mates that will be genetically compatable
Really? when you look at a guy are you really looking at what his genes may be?
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Yes-and-no, I think. I think there's been work done suggesting that people find the smell of t-shirts worn by people likely to be genetically compatible with them more attractive than others. I'm not sure of the details, as usual...
Not that this would be a concious thing, more an awareness that being close to this person is nice... an element of the "chemistry" early in a relationship, that sort of thing.
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Hi Rosy.
what are 'we' meaning when we say genetically compatable?
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We are talking about making genetically strong children. I think most of us are hard wired, not just with smell but with build; hair colour, eye colour and behaviour.
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Hi,
The this thread is based on fiction not science.
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It has also been shown that both men and women tend to marry people that are like their parents as this is seen as the blue print for their relationship. My husband has characteristics of both my Mum and my Dad.
Am I the only one who cringes at this idea? It's like it's implying that those people want to channel their unachieved parental incest lust.
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It has also been shown that both men and women tend to marry people that are like their parents as this is seen as the blue print for their relationship. My husband has characteristics of both my Mum and my Dad.
Am I the only one who cringes at this idea? It's like it's implying that those people want to channel their unachieved parental incest lust.
Interesting that your mind reads a sexual thing into this ;D
As we develop, role models are important in determining who we become and how we view other people. Obviously, an important set of role models are our parents, but they are not the only influencers; I would argue that teachers, youth leaders etc also have a big influence. Also, if you see any of these being negative role models you are likely to reject those traits in a future partner. It will also influence who you chose as friends.
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If badness is being mistreated its probably the want to either diversify the geen pool away from mommy and daddy ie something different, or more likely "badness" offering some alternate option to day to day norms, allowing for new avenues of creation, creation being procreation of the species. Maybe children who have had bad childhoods seek goodness by way of diversification, only this is not recognised.
If badness is beating the living daylights out of an opponent, robing an opponent or making things work by underhand means thats just what a womens biological drive tells them. Anybody in aposition of power is seen as attractive, especially women who by biological limitations, want protecting when pregnant in the biological must of reproduction. Badness=warding off others, making gains and making it stick. Loser=trying badness and ending up canned, unsuprisingly not an attractive quality.
It has also been shown that both men and women tend to marry people that are like their parents as this is seen as the blue print for their relationship. My husband has characteristics of both my Mum and my Dad.
Am I the only one who cringes at this idea? It's like it's implying that those people want to channel their unachieved parental incest lust.
Interesting that your mind reads a sexual thing into this ;D
As we develop, role models are important in determining who we become and how we view other people. Obviously, an important set of role models are our parents, but they are not the only influencers; I would argue that teachers, youth leaders etc also have a big influence. Also, if you see any of these being negative role models you are likely to reject those traits in a future partner. It will also influence who you chose as friends.
I agree colin, the stability of relationships and the likeness and familiarity of past experiences. But the same qualities of power and making things function are seen, only thing is that far greater functionality can be gained by good reputation and not being in prison. As I heard a fellow say a mans attractiveness is measured by the thickness of his wallet. Experience and maturity mean new avenues and provision are seen within the realms of possibility, but there is still the factor of wanting to diversify the geen pool though, someone who the good role models dissaprove of, someone who does thing differently, darwinism and survival of the fittest.
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And again, who drove off all the chicks ?
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It has also been shown that both men and women tend to marry people that are like their parents as this is seen as the blue print for their relationship. My husband has characteristics of both my Mum and my Dad.
Am I the only one who cringes at this idea? It's like it's implying that those people want to channel their unachieved parental incest lust.
Interesting that your mind reads a sexual thing into this ;D
As we develop, role models are important in determining who we become and how we view other people. Obviously, an important set of role models are our parents, but they are not the only influencers; I would argue that teachers, youth leaders etc also have a big influence. Also, if you see any of these being negative role models you are likely to reject those traits in a future partner. It will also influence who you chose as friends.
I am sorry. It's just people around me, especially the more religious one (including my sister!) tend to say that the one person destined to be the true love of someone will look like one of their relatives. I am disgusted with this idea since to me it looks like someone who deliberately look for someone similar to their relative's appearance to channel their unfulfilled incest sexual desire.